Oh noes! Pic bombing!

That will SURELY stop me from speaking out...and stop people from learning the truth about 9/11.

What to do???

6/22/2007 7:47:50 AM

yes you sure are doing a great job here on this message board helping people see the truth.

6/22/2007 7:54:48 AM

I'm doing such a "terrible" job that guth and the rest of the troll brigade have to resort to pic-bombing & spamming my threads, and whining to the mods like the little bithces they are in order to try to silence me and run me off TWW.

6/22/2007 8:02:11 AM

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT, AND HOW BIG DOES THE FONT HAVE TO BE BEFORE YOU GET THE PICTURE

NO ONE IS TRYING TO SILENCE YOU

YOUR MESSAGE ISN'T DANGEROUS

SCARY

OR REAL

AND IT IS BARELY THOUGHT PROVOKING (FOR A COMATOSE MENTALLY RETARDED PATIENT)

ARE YOU TOO STUPID TO SEE THAT YOU ARE A FARCE TO THIS WEBSITE

YOU'RE A RUNNING JOKE

YOU'RE THE GUY EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT MORONS AND THIS WEBSITE

GET OVER SOME SENSE OF AUTHORITY YOU THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE GAINED

BY COPYING AND PASTING SHIT FROM THE OTHER TIN HATS YOU COMMUNICATE WITH ON OTHER FORUMS


[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 8:30 AM. Reason : too stupid?]

6/22/2007 8:30:09 AM

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"NO ONE IS TRYING TO SILENCE YOU"

Suuuuuuuuurrree. Look. The SB trolls ADMITTED they were trying to silence me. They specifically said and admitted that they were trying to silence me. That's why they threw a hissy fit over a year ago with all their cheese threads and whining to the mods trying to run me off TWW.

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"ARE YOU TOO STUPID TO SEE THAT YOU ARE A FARCE TO THIS WEBSITE YOU'RE A RUNNING JOKE YOU'RE THE GUY EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT MORONS AND THIS WEBSITE"

According to who? According to the trolls that are the more prominent posters on the SB (and have taken over control of the forum). Not according to people with some sense, and those who have eyes to see and ears to hear (if you know what I mean).

6/22/2007 8:46:10 AM

Is everyone that doesn't agree with your lame thread a troll? Who here supports you? Not a god damned soul.

6/22/2007 9:23:58 AM

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"Is everyone that doesn't agree with your lame thread a troll?"

anyone that poses real, legit questions are labeled a troll. also, anyone that doesn't agree with him is labeled a troll for the most part.

how many questions of Mr. Joshua have yet to be answered? and those questions are all genuine questions that deserve real answers from him.

[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 9:31 AM. Reason : .]

6/22/2007 9:30:32 AM

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" I'm doing such a "terrible" job that guth and the rest of the troll brigade have to resort to pic-bombing & spamming my threads, and whining to the mods like the little bithces they are in order to try to silence me and run me off TWW."

Wow, you're even dumber than I thought, and that's a strong statement considering what I thought of you to begin with! The reason people are pic bombing and spamming your threads is because it's clear as daylight by now that logical arguments won't stop you, ignoring you won't stop you, complaining to the mods won't stop you, and you won't go away on your own, so if nothing will make you go away, why not have fun with you. And the reason people want you to go away to the point of complaining to the mods isn't because they perceive you in anyway dangerous or subversive -- it's because you are a nuisence, plain and simple!

6/22/2007 9:31:19 AM

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"complaining to the mods won't stop you"

a whiny j00 calling for viewpoint censorship

wow...shocker

6/22/2007 9:48:02 AM

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"it's because you are a nuisance, plain and simple"

6/22/2007 9:50:04 AM

Calling me a "nuisance" or labelling my views as "hate speech" is just a RUSE in order to smear my views in the attempt to censor me, silence me, etc.

The REAL nuisance are blatant trolls like guth who are REALLY fucking up the SB with their pic-bombing, spamming, cheese threads, etc.

I'm doing nothing wrong other than expressing politically incorrect, anti-establishment viewpoints. And for that, a vocal minority of trolls/shills who run the SB want to silence/censor me.

6/22/2007 9:56:31 AM

people want you to shut the fuck up because youre a fucking idiot.

not because what you present has any merit or truth

youre a fucking annoying douche nozzle

6/22/2007 10:10:31 AM

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"The REAL nuisance are blatant trolls like guth who are REALLY fucking up the SB with their pic-bombing, spamming, cheese threads, etc."

WHO THE FUCK ARE WE BEING A NUISANCE TOO, WHEN YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT SEEMS TO BE ANNOYED BY IT? YOU STUPID NEANDERTHAL.

6/22/2007 10:49:37 AM

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"a whiny j00 calling for viewpoint censorship wow...shocker "

Dear God, do you even have a single brain cell of your own, or do you and a bunch of your relatives share a single brain cell? I never asked the mods to take action against you, nor would I ever. In fact I didn't even know other people have done it until you brought it up. Come to think of it, I'm skeptical it even happened until someone else confirms it for me, considering your credibility. I never called to censor your viewpoint or any other viewpoint in SB.

Oh and by the way, the fact that me stating that I am of a certain ethnicity (Jewish) leads you to assume that I should think or act a certain way (i.e. silence you by trying to get the mods to ban you) is exactly the reason no one takes you seriously.

6/22/2007 12:14:04 PM

^ It's like that time that he admitted that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a plagiarized hoax. His argument was that one of the plagiarized works was written by a converted jew thus it was a legitimate document as all jews think alike.

As far as my thoughts, I have no problem with what he is posting. Freedom of thought is a god given right.

However, the utter thoughtlessness of his post history, his blatant refusal to have a mature discussion about his ideas, his tendency to lie when pressed for information, and the overall cowardice that he has exhibited here really have no place on a discussion board.

Now salisburyboy, before you get your panties in a wad, note that I did not call for you to be suspended or banned and I never have. I just wish that you acted like a big kid when you came out on the playground with the rest of us.

6/22/2007 2:47:32 PM

http://tinyurl.com/268fgr

p.16

pwnt

[Edited on June 25, 2007 at 2:00 AM. Reason : tiny]

6/25/2007 2:00:07 AM

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"Blind Willie : YOU'RE THE GUY EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT MORONS AND THIS WEBSITE""

he's right. your screen name has become a derogatory label that cuts across all political/social/religious ideologies. to be referred to as "salisburyboy-esque" or (god forbid) to be a "salisburyboy alias" is about the worst insult anyone can give in this forum.

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"salisbot According to who? ... Not according to people who have eyes to see and ears to hear (if you know what I mean)."

so, now you think youre Jesus Christ! LOL. and i suppose we're the Sanhedrin persecuting you, trying to bring you up on charges to the Roman moderators.

so yeah... wow... a paranoid delusional conspiracy theorist who also sports a messianic complex. dude, you're absolutely golden. dont worry, no one will ever suspend you. if they do, i'll be the first to make a "free salisbot" thread.

6/25/2007 4:05:36 AM

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"It's like that time that he admitted that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a plagiarized hoax. His argument was that one of the plagiarized works was written by a converted jew thus it was a legitimate document as all jews think alike. "

That's a misrepresentation of my position (and from joshuatroll...wow, shocker).

I didn't say that the Protocols were a "forgery." What I actually said was that the Protocols contained similar ideas (and NOT word-to-word plagiarization) to a previous work because they both came from similar spheres of influence (ie, Jewish ideologues).

6/25/2007 10:13:34 AM

Neat, slandering anyone who casts doubt on your already dubious ideas.

Regardless your response is one of the single dumbest things that I have ever read. The Protocols have been proven to be a forgery. Your denial adds nothing to their credibility. Instead of actually proving that they are genuine you make up an excuse that since they are both by jews it doesn't matter if there is plagiarism - even though the Protocols have been conclusively proven to be fraudulent on several occasions.

Although I don't know you, I'm fairly certain that we come from "similar spheres of influence". However, that does not mean that our ideas are nearly identical. The same goes for everyone in the Soap Box.

I'd also like to see you refute Boone's post. Although his link no longer works I found a similar report from Northwestern's engineering department.

http://www.civil.northwestern.edu/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/405.pdf

6/25/2007 2:24:22 PM

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"The Protocols have been proven to be a forgery...even though the Protocols have been conclusively proven to be fraudulent on several occasions."

They've never actually been proven to be fraudulent. It's just been claimed by Jewish-controlled sources that they've been proven to be a "forgery."

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"Instead of actually proving that they are genuine..."

Many things prove the authenticity of the Protocols...most notably the fact that the plans contained in the Protocols have been implemented in reality.

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"the utter thoughtlessness of his post history, his blatant refusal to have a mature discussion about his ideas, his tendency to lie when pressed for information, and the overall cowardice that he has exhibited here "

In typical shill fashion you are falsely accusing me of things that you and the troll brigade (eg, guth & others) are guilty of. You are the ones who post crap (eg, pic-bombing & spamming my threads, cheese threads) and are immature. You are the ones who lie and use false arguments. You are the cowards who cannot rationally and logically debate, and must resort to 2nd grade insults, smear tactics, and when that doesn't work...whine to the moderators to try to silence those you disagree with.

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"so, now you think youre Jesus Christ!"

Talk about a strawman. The desperation is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

6/25/2007 4:46:30 PM

^ not a strawman.... that was a direct response to your previous post:

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"salisburyboy: Not according to people who have eyes to see and ears to hear (if you know what I mean)."

unless, you would like to explain "you know what I mean" as to meaning something other than the obvious, well-known, and frequently-used phrases of Jesus:

Quote :

" Mat 11:15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. Mat 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Mar 4:9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. Mar 4:23 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. Mar 7:16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. Luk 8:8 And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. Luk 14:35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; [but] men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear plus a couple more very popular with millennialist christians Deu 29:4 Yet the LORD hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day. Eze 12:2 Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they [are] a rebellious house. "

you know i dont really care what you believe.

i just find it illuminating that in addition to having serious paranoia and delusions of persecution, you also entertain a messianic complex.







[Edited on June 25, 2007 at 9:54 PM. Reason : ]

6/25/2007 9:44:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fViV66t8pJw

6/25/2007 10:47:08 PM

^
at first i was like
then i was like
now i'm like

i mean, thats it. america is finished. it's over. I'ma move to northern idaho and hole up in a cabin in the woods. I can make homemade soap and candles and sawed-off shotguns to barter for goods with the townfolks.

anyone else coming with?





[Edited on June 26, 2007 at 3:16 AM. Reason : ]

6/26/2007 3:12:29 AM

You know, to some extent, salisburyboy is right.

Ultimately, he and his ilk will have to be eradicated, either by complete and total marginalization or by physical extermination. I find the former far more likely, but in either case, his points of view are ultimately incompatible with a functioning liberal democracy.

I can't wait to see what he does with the phrase "liberal democracy," as though he has any clue what he's talking about.

But he's right, we are all out to get him, but our respective comprehensions of why that is and how we hope to bring it about are separted by a wide gulf of paranoia and borderline insanity.

6/26/2007 3:36:48 AM

^ Please explain

6/26/2007 10:24:07 AM

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"They've never actually been proven to be fraudulent. It's just been claimed by Jewish-controlled sources that they've been proven to be a "forgery.""

Yes, they have been proven to be fraudulent. If you would do some objective research instead of blindly casting aside anything that may hurt your opinion you would know this.

The original London Times article from 1921:
http://emperors-clothes.com/antisem/times-pdf.htm

If the article is such a load of bunk, then disprove it here and now.

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"Many things prove the authenticity of the Protocols...most notably the fact that the plans contained in the Protocols have been implemented in reality."

Pray tell, what other things prove their authenticity? You repeatedly cite that they have been implemented - all that the Protocols do is to predict that trends that were visible a century ago will continue.

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"In typical shill fashion you are falsely accusing me of things that you and the troll brigade (eg, guth & others) are guilty of."

I'm not a troll, little buddy. I'm simply the only person who takes the time out to question your ideas. As such you have labeled me an enemy and wish to silence me.

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"You are the ones who post crap (eg, pic-bombing & spamming my threads, cheese threads) and are immature."

What crap do I post aside from legitimate questions? You accuse me of spamming whenever I repeat legitimate questions that you cannot answer.

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"You are the ones who lie and use false arguments. You are the cowards who cannot rationally and logically debate, and must resort to 2nd grade insults, smear tactics, and when that doesn't work...whine to the moderators to try to silence those you disagree with. "

Where have I done any of this? Please point it out or I'll just label this another blatant lie made by an increasingly desperate salisburyboy.

In traditional salisburyboy fashion you have ignored the questions about your ideas and instead have chosen to focus on anything and everything that you can construe as slander in order to make yourself look like a persecuted little victim. Please grow up if you want to continue posting with the big kids.

[Edited on June 26, 2007 at 2:57 PM. Reason : .]

6/26/2007 2:48:19 PM

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"Ultimately, he and his ilk will have to be eradicated, either by complete and total marginalization or by physical extermination."

Well we know marginalization isn't going to work because your elite masters have lost their media monopoly, and thus the power to brainwash 99% of the population with their propaganda. The internet killed that. So I guess that leaves physical extermination. Good luck with that. There are tens of millions of Americans (and growing exponentially daily) who are armed and ready to resist.

Are you a cop or something? Are you going to serve the government in attempting to exterminate American patriots? I got news for you. In the event of a revolution/war following such an attempted genocide/extermination, your side will be DEMOLISHED. 50-100 million armed American patriots to a few hundred thousand traitorous cops/soldiers and foreign troops. Checkmate.



[Edited on June 26, 2007 at 4:30 PM. Reason : 3]

6/26/2007 4:22:55 PM

When does the physical extermination start? Can you give us a ballpark figure?

Thats a neat rant and everything, but....

Quote :

"They've never actually been proven to be fraudulent. It's just been claimed by Jewish-controlled sources that they've been proven to be a "forgery.""

Yes, they have been proven to be fraudulent. If you would do some objective research instead of blindly casting aside anything that may hurt your opinion you would know this.

The original London Times article from 1921:
http://emperors-clothes.com/antisem/times-pdf.htm

If the article is such a load of bunk, then disprove it here and now.

6/26/2007 4:33:40 PM

y'all shoulda heard me do the giddyap a oom poppa mow mow.

i tell ya, folks come from miles around just to hear me get low on the mow mow.



[Edited on June 27, 2007 at 12:18 AM. Reason : ]

6/27/2007 12:18:13 AM

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"Well we know marginalization isn't going"

You could've fooled me. Seems to be working pretty well so far, although every now and then one of you nutballs gets a few too many guns and needs to be smoked out.

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"There are tens of millions of Americans (and growing exponentially daily) who are armed and ready to resist."

There are not tens of millions of people in this country who think like you, and far fewer still who wouldn't change their tune immediately if faced with a threat.

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"Are you a cop or something?"

I am not now, nor have I ever been, employed by any government or affiliated agency.

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"In the event of a revolution/war following such an attempted genocide/extermination, your side will be DEMOLISHED."

There would be neither revolution, war, nor genocide, attempted or otherwise. There will just be the occaisonal flare-up where a bunch of you boys have a few too many Bud Lights and set up a compound and get out of hand, at which point the individuals in question will either be rounded up or blasted out. Doesn't really matter one way or the other to me. The rest of the time, marginalization is working just fine.

6/27/2007 2:14:54 AM

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"although every now and then one of you nutballs gets a few too many guns and needs to be smoked out"

I didn't know it was a crime to exercise your 2nd Amendment RIGHT to own firearms. But sycophants and lemmings of our criminal government/establishment system will fall for about anything.

If they asked you to turn in all your guns, I bet you'd do it. Hell, you probably support trashing the Constitution and declaring martial law if the GovtEstablishment staged another terrorist attack and told you "the Islamofascists are coming to kill us all. We must declare martial law and take away your freedoms to protect you."

6/27/2007 7:34:42 AM

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"If they asked you to turn in all your guns, I bet you'd do it."

I'd do no such thing. It isn't the guns part the bothers me, it's the part where people have a shit ton of them and are also fucking loony toons, or are combining said shit ton of guns with some other illegal activity. A guy who cheats on his taxes is rather less threatening than a guy who holes up in a compound with 12 assault rifles and a thousand rounds of ammunition and says, "If you try to make me pay taxes I will shoot."

6/27/2007 9:40:40 AM

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"it's the part where people have a shit ton of them and are also fucking loony toons, or are combining said shit ton of guns with some other illegal activity."

Now wait a sec. What happend to your "right =/= legal idea"? I thought you were in favor of rejecting laws you felt were unjust. If I think I'm right to fight a unjust law, why shouldn't my friends and I stock-pile weapons and take on the gov't?

After all, King George III probably saw the rebel colonists as mentally deranged criminals shooting guns at the soldiers of the most powerful country in the world.

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"If you try to make me pay taxes I will shoot.""

Isn't that how our country pretty much got started?

6/27/2007 11:02:43 AM

hell, if you're a hispanic illegal alien, you don't have to pay taxes, and when the amnesty bill is rammed through and passed, they'll get amnesty for any back taxes owed too. and you can march through the streets waving your mexican flag demanding amnesty for all the laws you've broken, and the Jewish establishment controlling our media and government endorses and promotes all of this

but if you're an American CITIZEN and patriot and protest federal income taxes (which ARE illegal & unconstitutional by the way), they'll sick the FEDS and swat teams on your ass, and demonize you as an "extremist kook", and label your home a "compound", etc.

6/27/2007 11:51:25 AM

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"and you can march through the streets waving your mexican flag demanding amnesty for all the laws you've broken, and the Jewish establishment controlling our media and government endorses and promotes all of this "

Thats bullshit. The media constantly pointed out how counter productive it was to wave Mexican flags at protests. Because of this, Hispanic organizations responded and there have since been reports of Hispanic groups telling protesters not to wave Mexican flags.

IE

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"Those with Mexican or other national flags were urged to put them away for the march."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=420038

6/27/2007 1:59:03 PM

as if that was the point I was making

red herring

6/27/2007 2:04:37 PM

Well don't put in false claims to support the point you are making. It tends to make your point look less valid, don't yout think?

6/27/2007 2:09:07 PM

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"Well don't put in false claims to support the point you are making. It tends to make your point look less valid, don't yout think?"

I haven't put out false claims.

Are you saying there weren't amnesty supporters waving mexican flags at the pro-amnesty marches?? Because there clearly WERE people with mexican flags.

But again, red herring designed to distract the discussion.

6/27/2007 2:15:43 PM

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"Are you saying there weren't amnesty supporters waving mexican flags at the pro-amnesty marches?? Because there clearly WERE people with mexican flags."

Dude, give it up. You know exactly what I am saying.

That this is bullshit

Quote :

"and you can march through the streets waving your mexican flag demanding amnesty for all the laws you've broken, and the Jewish establishment controlling our media and government endorses and promotes all of this ""

because the media did not neither endorsed nor promoted waving mexican flags at protestes. Like I said before, the media was quick to point out how counter productive this was. This included John Stewart whom I'm sure you know is a Jew.

6/27/2007 2:31:39 PM

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"red herring"

...

Quote :

"hell, if you're a hispanic illegal alien, you don't have to pay taxes, and when the amnesty bill is rammed through and passed, they'll get amnesty for any back taxes owed too. and you can march through the streets waving your mexican flag demanding amnesty for all the laws you've broken, and the Jewish establishment controlling our media and government endorses and promotes all of this but if you're an American CITIZEN and patriot and protest federal income taxes (which ARE illegal & unconstitutional by the way), they'll sick the FEDS and swat teams on your ass, and demonize you as an "extremist kook", and label your home a "compound", etc."

6/27/2007 2:36:19 PM

Apparently you're either too much of a coward or too much of a moron to address this:

Quote :

"They've never actually been proven to be fraudulent. It's just been claimed by Jewish-controlled sources that they've been proven to be a "forgery.""

Yes, they have been proven to be fraudulent. If you would do some objective research instead of blindly casting aside anything that may hurt your opinion you would know this.

The original London Times article from 1921:
http://emperors-clothes.com/antisem/times-pdf.htm

If the article is such a load of bunk, then disprove it here and now.

6/27/2007 3:05:19 PM

Quote :

"hell, if you're a hispanic illegal alien, you don't have to pay taxes, and when the amnesty bill is rammed through and passed, they'll get amnesty for any back taxes owed too."

that's a pretty lucrative gig they got, these illegals.

any way i can renounce my citizen and become an illegal mexican?

cause i wanna sign up. i hear those fuckers are gettin' PAID.

6/27/2007 8:45:23 PM

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"Now wait a sec. What happend to your "right =/= legal idea"? I thought you were in favor of rejecting laws you felt were unjust."

No. I am in favor of rejecting laws that are unjust. My feeling that they are one way or the other does not, in this regard, have anything to do with it. I suppose it's part of the problem that comes with being a moral absolutist.

And no, I don't think I know those absolutes all or even most of the time, but I do think they exist, and every now and then I think I've got them pretty spot on. History has vindicated the Civil Rights movement people as being correct. History has yet to vindicate either side on the immigration issue, though I have a pretty fucking good idea which way it will go. But the dingbats who hole up and say they won't pay taxes and will have eleventy wives or kick out all the black people or whatever...history has already said that they are wrong, and I don't see that changing.

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"Isn't that how our country pretty much got started?"

You conveniently left out the part that said "without asking the permission of the people." So no.

salisburyboy, I'll ignore all the racist vitriol (and yes, I know you take pride in being a racist, so you don't need to bother repeating it, though I'm sure you will), and skip on to this part:

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"but if you're an American CITIZEN and patriot and protest federal income taxes (which ARE illegal & unconstitutional by the way), they'll sick the FEDS and swat teams on your ass"

There is a world of difference between "protesting" and "getting a bunch of guns in a fortified location and saying you'll shoot people."

6/27/2007 9:04:34 PM

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"There is a world of difference between "protesting" and "getting a bunch of guns in a fortified location and saying you'll shoot people."

I assume you are reffering to the Brown family in New Hampshire. These people are not threatening or being aggressive towards anyone. They are in their own home and simply want to be left alone. They are armed in case they need to defend themselves against the Federal goons. In case you haven't noticed, the FEDS have a history of murdering people like them (eg, Ruby Ridge massacre, Waco massacre). People have a God-given right to protect themselves against criminals, whether they are common criminals or government criminals (as exists today with the fraudulent & illegal federal income tax, etc).

And what is the Browns' "crime"? Protesting and refusing to comply with the illegal & unconstitutional federal income tax? Well as we mentioned before, the criminal government has no problem with illegal aliens not paying taxes (or breaking many other laws), and will give them amnesty for it. Why the clear double standard? Because the illegal Third Worlders are being used by the establishment to destroy and take down America. Meanwhile, the establishment harasses, taxes to death, and sicks its goons on any American CITIZENS & patriots who stand up for the truth or freedom.



[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 9:11 AM. Reason : 2]

6/28/2007 8:42:03 AM

Quote :

"the Brown family in New Hampshire."

Quote :

" New Hampshire Tax Protesters in Stand-off with Federal Marshals It is a local New Hampshire story about two tax protesters in Plainfield New Hampshire. It has been in the local news here over the past few months, but I haven’t seen it on the national news. I thought it was time to get it out there. Ed and Elaine Brown have been holed up in their Plainfield home since being convicted of tax evasion in January. They have fortified their house and built a watchtower over the year preparing for this day. They have many weapons and food to last years. They believe that there is no law requiring them to pay federal income taxes. They have payed all local, and state property taxes they have owed over the years. It’s the federal income tax they are protesting. The couple has asked the federal government since 1994 to cite a law that requires average Americans to pay taxes on their wages. “They have never done so, and the reason they have never done so is because no such law exists,” Elaine Brown said. They cite that they could have payed their taxes any time over the years and they said they would if the law requiring them to do so was showed to them. They refuse to pay based on beliefs and would rather die not paying taxes then to give in. The Browns reiterated that they could have cleared their name at any time by paying the taxes the government says they owe. It’s not ego that keeps them holed up in their Plainfield home waiting for a potentially violent clash with government agents, they said. “Nobody would be that stupid to get into this kind of pressure and anxiety every day” unless they were standing by something they truly believed, Ed Brown said. As of now the federal marshals are not expecting any kind of armed conflict. They are planning on waiting this out and hoping that the Brown’s surrender peacefully. The Brown’s, on the other hand, are wating for a conflict and are prepared to die. “We know there’s a possibility that this will end badly and they will end up killing us,” Elaine Brown The Browns, who sequestered themselves in their Plainfield home after a January jury trial, have said that if they leave, it will be either as free citizens or “in body bags.” But whether they perish or not, Ed Brown said, he’s confident the ordeal will have a positive ending. “Only God knows the time frame,” he said. “And no matter how it ends, it will be good. It doesn’t matter. If they do something to us, they’ll make martyrs out of us.” This sounds like it is going to end badly to me. So far both sides have been playing the wait and see game."

I think the feds are hoping that no one will pay any attention to them and this will go away quietly. But if the media attention grows, the gov't cannot appear to look weak when it comes to shaking down the public for taxes. Then it will be time to pull a Janet Reno...bring in the tanks to "save the children."

6/28/2007 10:47:08 AM

federal income tax really does not make any sense. i mean, once you think about it. and if anyone ha a belief as to why it is legit and they're not just trolling, please present this to me and i will evaluate it and refute it if need be.

6/28/2007 11:33:46 AM

salisburyboy, the ultimate troller

6/28/2007 8:33:47 PM

^^ XVIth Amendment

6/29/2007 9:55:33 AM

^
The 16th amendment only allowed congress to impose a progressive income tax. It did not establish one.

6/29/2007 10:26:40 AM

all i know is that there are EXTENSIVE resources on why federal tax protesting is the dumbest thing of all time

6/29/2007 10:31:29 AM