^^McCain agrees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHUlA7Oe9YY

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 1:30 PM. Reason : :]

10/9/2008 1:30:16 PM

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"so thats the best you got, the vp's husband's old party"

you can't bring up guilt by association then turn it off as if it is a light switch.

10/9/2008 1:36:12 PM

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"For fucks sake, look at terpball!"

you don't know me

10/9/2008 1:39:29 PM

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_promises_to_stop_americas

10/9/2008 1:43:56 PM

^ been to any more protests recently?

10/9/2008 1:44:07 PM

Status Quobama is just more of the SAME!

http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/10/web-archives-confirm-barack-obama-was.html
Web Archives Confirm Barack Obama Was Member Of Socialist 'New Party' In 1996

try to explain away that, pinkos!!!

10/9/2008 1:50:32 PM

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"you can't bring up guilt by association then turn it off as if it is a light switch."

not guilt by association, guilt by action ... shes the vp, he was in the party way before they even met

when i bring up issues about biden's wife, then you can use that as a response

10/9/2008 2:09:38 PM

Bill Ayers was conducting his terrorist actions when Obama was eight.

10/9/2008 2:12:49 PM

he is still a terrorist

if he molested children 40 years ago, hed still be a child molester today and for the rest of life no matter when or how many times he did it

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 2:15 PM. Reason : a]

10/9/2008 2:14:46 PM

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"he is still a terrorist if he molested children 40 years ago, hed still be a child molester today and for the rest of life no matter when or how many times he did it"

This is the poorest attempt of forming a logical argument that I've read in a long time

10/9/2008 2:19:43 PM

^^dude that makes no sense at all. palin MARRIED a seccionist, and you're claiming it's irrelevent because they didn't know each other? are we not allowed to say "once a seccionist, always a seccionist?" because you seem to be using that argument against ayers.

once a murderer, always a murderer

once a rapist, always a rapist

once a child molester, always a child molester

once a seccionist rebel, always a seccionist rebel

once a thief, always a thief

once a practicioner of witchcraft, always a practicioner of witchcraft

once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic

once a jaywalker, always a jaywalker




where is the magic line here?

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 2:22 PM. Reason : ]

10/9/2008 2:21:45 PM

ok so lets condone those who committed acts of terrorism in a well known terrorist organization


only if obama is friends with him though, and if it was in the past

but hey, its not like its a serious crime or anything


god, its remarkable how far youll go to try and keep obamas image ... would you actually admit anything negative about his past or present .. or is that just impossible

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 2:32 PM. Reason : asd]

10/9/2008 2:31:23 PM

Guilt by association either works both way or not at all. You can't have it work one way and not the other.

10/9/2008 2:34:38 PM

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"god, its remarkable how far youll go to try and keep obamas image ... would you actually admit anything negative about his past or present .. or is that just impossible"

of course not, he's the liberal messiah

10/9/2008 2:35:46 PM

^^^what image are we trying to preserve? i mean, you're argument is one sided. you claim that palin's hands are clean of her husbands political actions, even though the two are married, but obama is guilty for knowing a man who's political actions were atrocious?

i'm not arguing that ayers actions were mildly tolerable, but be realistic here. it's downright hypocritical for palin to be on her stump asking who the real obama is and going all transitive property with the ayers and wright associations, and then asking for immunity for some of her own questionable actions.

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 2:38 PM. Reason : ]

10/9/2008 2:37:56 PM

Polls - Oct 9


Obama up 14 in PA?
Obama up 9 in NH?
Obama up 7 in VA?

Obama up 8 in WV? That can't be right...if so, McCain is so toast.

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 2:47 PM. Reason : -]

10/9/2008 2:47:07 PM

so the alaskan independent party is on the same level as terrorists now, i see

10/9/2008 2:48:21 PM

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"In my neighborhood, when you've got something to say to a guy, you look him in the eye and you say it to him."

--Obama.

OH SNAP

10/9/2008 2:52:03 PM

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"so the alaskan independent party is on the same level as terrorists now, i see"

It is a secessionist movement who the leader advocated for armed insurgency against the United States and was a guest at the UN of Iran where he spewed anti-American rhetoric.

Your transitive theory sucks, mine wins.

10/9/2008 2:54:28 PM

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"so the alaskan independent party is on the same level as terrorists now, i see"

don't know, but how would you classify an organization who's found says

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"My government is my worst enemy. I’m going to fight them with any means at hand."

10/9/2008 2:55:48 PM

^^^ actually that was Biden who said it

10/9/2008 2:56:28 PM

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"My government is my worst enemy. I’m going to fight them with any means at hand."

how about "this is the first time I'm truly proud of my country"

10/9/2008 2:59:12 PM

tu quoque fallacy doesn't work.

10/9/2008 3:01:08 PM

when the alaskan independence party starts bombing america .. let me know

10/9/2008 3:14:54 PM

^^big surprise...you never call out your fellow obama supporters when they do the same thing...just me when i do it in response to them doing it...big surprise

10/9/2008 3:20:05 PM

the "friends of a terrorist" issue is a replacement for the 2006 distraction issue of "ZOMG he supports gay marriage"


bash and discredit Obama all you want Shultz. Please though point out his true flaw and platform weaknesses rather than "ohs knows, obama is going to spread islamic law and blow up cars in mainstreet with his terrorist buddies!"

I am hoping after a humiliating defeat (by a black guy) the GOP will wake the fuck up and make a lateral transition to a platform based on fiscal conservatism while executing some level of altruism.

Given the option of either the legislature or executive branch; I would rather the GOP take the legislature. I am not that worried about Obama being president as long as the GOP retakes congress and senate, except for Dole who i hope crashes in burns. Obama can't pass all his spend happy liberal programs if the conservative law makers are cutting the money train. This combination is what allowed the Clinton administration to be so successful imho.




[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM. Reason : a]

10/9/2008 3:35:47 PM

when the alaskan independence party Michelle Obama starts bombing america .. let me know

10/9/2008 3:36:44 PM

i really wish obama was white so obama supporters couldnt always play the race card and would see him as just another big government liberal candidate

10/9/2008 3:43:15 PM

Here's what I don't get about Ayers. Everyone from here to California is screaming their heads off about how he's some horrible terrorist and enemy of the United States and how anyone who associates with him is a terrorist.

Do you know what he did?

He tried to blow up this statue:



Hey, I bet that killed a lot of people, right?

Oops, no. Zero.

But I bet at least someone was injured, right?

Oops, no. No one was hurt at all.

But, but, he said he wanted to bomb stuff again!

Actually, no, he didn't:

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""The one thing I don't regret is opposing the war in Vietnam with every ounce of my being.... When I say, 'We didn't do enough,' a lot of people rush to think, 'That must mean, "We didn't bomb enough shit."' But that's not the point at all. It's not a tactical statement, it's an obvious political and ethical statement. In this context, 'we' means 'everyone.'""

Millions of people did radical protesting in the 60s. It was a tenuous time.

And if this guy is such a fucking CRAAAAAAZY INSANE RADICAL TERRORIST, how is he teaching at a University as a professor? Don't you think the administration there would have a problem employing a CRAZZYY RADICAL INSANE TERRORRIST who wants to BLOW UP AMERICA?


Oh yes, I forgot, this was just blown out of proportion by conservative douchebags.



===================================

And all this for someone Obama has a loose relationship with.

Give

me

a fucking

break.

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 3:55 PM. Reason : ]

10/9/2008 3:52:56 PM

I mean, McCain is friends with G. Gordon Liddy.

OMFTERRORIST!!!

10/9/2008 3:58:29 PM

the angry right

Mad cuz' their candidates chances are going down the shitter.

10/9/2008 3:58:31 PM

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"I am not that worried about Obama being president as long as the GOP retakes congress and senate, except for Dole who i hope crashes in burns."

Not gonna happen, at best the Republicans only lose 4 seats, worst they could lose 9 and end up 40-60.

10/9/2008 4:00:13 PM

http://www.economist.com/vote2008/index.cfm

Well McCain, at least Georgia's got your back.

10/9/2008 4:13:49 PM

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"bash and discredit Obama all you want Shultz. Please though point out his true flaw and platform weaknesses rather than "ohs knows, obama is going to spread islamic law and blow up cars in mainstreet with his terrorist buddies!" "

never called him islamic

and if the media did there job like theyre doing so thoroughly against mccain, i wouldnt need to call skepticism to his unknown shady past.

and i have called him out on policies, but they are so vaguely portrayed that its impossible to tell how they will actually pan out and ultimately be implemented ... obamas so called tax breaks for 95% of the middle class is such a joke because he will never follow through with that

his view of nationalized health care is such a dangerous prospect .. that is going to have a endless pricetag that will be paid for by every working american even if you have a policy already. its going to put govt agents in washington in charge of its distribution and thus giving them more power and taking power away from health care professionals. there are so many ways for this to fail miserably all over. the liberals answer to any failing govt service is not reform, but spend more money and thus raise more taxes

nationalized health care has failed miserably in the UK and he hasnt learned from that. appointments have to be made months in advance over there and sometimes forced to get treated hours from home


i disagree with mccains bailout view, but thats part of a bill thats already been passed so its already in progress

but you really dont count in any of this because youre not going to vote right?

10/9/2008 4:14:49 PM

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""The Weather Underground launched an attack on our family home ... looking to kill us," Murtagh told FOX News. "I believe if the senator were to come clean and tell us the full story, we'd find out this relationship well predates the fundraiser held in the Ayers home. It goes back to the '80s."

10/9/2008 4:24:53 PM

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"and i have called him out on policies, but they are so vaguely portrayed that its impossible to tell how they will actually pan out and ultimately be implemented "

They really are no more vague than McCain's proposals.

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"obamas so called tax breaks for 95% of the middle class is such a joke because he will never follow through with that"

Apparently thats not vague, but you think for no given reason that he will not implement it.

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"his view of nationalized health care is such a dangerous prospect "

His proposed national health insurance is in addition to, not in place of privatized health insurance.

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"its going to have a endless pricetag"

It is estimated to cost about 100 billion a year for the first three years. McCains is estimated to cost 160 billion a year for the first three years. source: Consumer Reports.

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 4:30 PM. Reason : .]

10/9/2008 4:26:27 PM

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"its going to put govt agents in washington in charge of its distribution and thus giving them more power and taking power away from health care professionals."

THIS IS A GOOD THING, my friends.

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 4:27 PM. Reason : ]

10/9/2008 4:26:45 PM

Fucking frightening. I know you can find plenty of nutjubs at any political event, but I think you're getting a special brand of batshit at McCain-Palin rallies.

10/9/2008 4:32:03 PM

So apparently Obama just bought 30 minutes of primetime on all the major networks for October 29. Dropping the hammer?

10/9/2008 4:32:13 PM

^^ that scares me too. why all the hate? I've never seen anything like it at an Obama rally

10/9/2008 4:47:38 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl78

lol, the science community is pretty pissed off about McCain's little projector jab during the debate

10/9/2008 4:50:01 PM

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"job like theyre doing so thoroughly against mccain, i wouldnt need to call skepticism to his unknown shady past. "

Obama was all I heard on the damn TV up until Aug. McCain rarely made headlines this summer. That all changed by the end up August. As incompetent as Palin is; she has succeeded in stealing the spotlight from Obama. Perhaps this was McCain's true intentions all along. We will find out next month if this gamble paid off. As off right now though the odds are slightly out of his favor.


I am not actually that worried about universal health care. With the 700 Billion bailout with the current, No Ceo Left Behind program, there is absolutly no way Obama could fund some kind of nationalized health care program. Espicially if Obama intends to honor his proposed tax cuts.

10/9/2008 4:53:20 PM

thats the thing, theres no way hell cut taxes or keep them cut for long .. .and once hes there, whatever is being said now is completely null

10/9/2008 4:57:13 PM

^^^

Yay science!

10/9/2008 5:05:41 PM

fuck me, that video is frightening indeed

10/9/2008 5:09:04 PM

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"Fucking frightening. I know you can find plenty of nutjubs at any political event, but I think you're getting a special brand of batshit at McCain-Palin rallies."

I like how the woman says she heard of Sarah Palin three years ago. What, you heard of her when she was the mayor of Wasilla?

10/9/2008 5:16:59 PM

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"Obama up 14 in PA? Obama up 9 in NH? Obama up 7 in VA? Obama up 8 in WV? That can't be right...if so, McCain is so toast. "

Look. I'm going to say this again, if Obama is truly up in West Viginy...just....lol.

10/9/2008 5:23:16 PM

all these polls you guys have are not including nader and barr in the polling

its almost a dead heat folks when they are added in the picture

10/9/2008 6:03:55 PM

no, no they aren't. The difference is the same even when you include barr and nader, since those supporters are included in the "undecided" column for the two person polls.

10/9/2008 6:05:40 PM

Dude, what? lol

What the shit are you talking about? Have you been following this at all?

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 6:09 PM. Reason : - ]

10/9/2008 6:09:01 PM