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" Despite what your "folksy wisdom" might erroneously lead you to believe, this DOES in fact happen."

yes, it does. but it is most definitely not profiling when you perform a very illegal and very dangerous traffic maneuver.

4/13/2012 8:51:10 PM

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"PICK UP PLATES"

4/13/2012 9:04:09 PM

if only zimmerman had worn a CCW banner:

4/14/2012 12:12:12 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/16/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Zimmerman's lawyer formally requests a new judge to hear the case.
I think it was last week, the judge said she had a potential conflict of interest in that her husband worked with a CNN analyst

4/16/2012 6:13:56 PM

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""Like the thread I made about Tyler Perry claiming he was racially profiled because he was pulled over by two white cops for making an ILLEGAL turn." Despite what your "folksy wisdom" might erroneously lead you to believe, this DOES in fact happen."

Not nearly as often as you'd like people to believe. So if I get stopped by a black cop should I suspect I was profiled?

4/16/2012 6:35:49 PM

Oh I agree.

I'm not lying that people get racially profiled.

People just assume that Zimmerman is a racist because he is "white" and Travyon was black.

I also admit that cops do it to, and pull people over for being black in nice neighborhoods etc.

But, don't fucking pull the "I was racially profiled" bullshit when you ADMIT that you broke the law and the cops pulled you over.

Most celebrities have tinted windows on their cars too, so the cops more than likely didn't even know that he was black.

4/16/2012 9:13:50 PM

I admit people get racially profiled.

But to make myself feel better about racist police I'll argue that he deserved being pulled over for committing a minor moving violation, something that I do arguably ten times a day, except the police don't shine a light in my car, give me a hard time, or call the drug dogs.

And to top it off I'll assume he had his windows tinted, or something, any kind of excuse to justify my just world philosophy.

4/16/2012 9:24:23 PM

^You make illegal left hand turns from the right lane 10 times a day? Careful, your troll is showing...

4/16/2012 9:33:20 PM

Who doesn't make 10 illegal u-turns a day?

4/16/2012 9:35:31 PM

i get racially profiled-

im white and im assumed to be successful.

4/16/2012 9:38:25 PM

^^^ His point is that despite the statistical evidence of how blacks are negatively assessed by all levels of the legal system, just for being black, you'll never get certain people to admit any single instance is an example of this profiling.

The damning aspect of racial profiling isn't that it happens, it's the net effect on society. The treatment of blacks by the legal system has clearly had a very negative effect on the community, and our society as a whole. It isn't a problem that should be dismissed or ignored like LaserSoup is suggesting.

When you have a large group of people being searched at a higher rate, then arrested at a higher rate, then charged more stringently, it has a domino effect that causes the entire group to struggle both economically and socially.



[Edited on April 16, 2012 at 9:41 PM. Reason : ]

4/16/2012 9:39:10 PM

No no, see, it's not the system's fault! That would make me feel guilty. Therefore, I just have to say that Black people as a whole are just lazy people and if they only worked harder they could be successful!

Wait wait, I'm going to answer like toculu: "See, not all Black people are bad. Just the lazy niggers. I can say niggers, because I'm not a racist! I'm just describing a specific group of Black people that are lazy niggers so it's okay to say that."

4/16/2012 9:42:08 PM

so nigger is an all or nothing term yes?

4/16/2012 9:42:39 PM

Shut the fuck up, God. You think you are helping, but your extremism makes it hard for anyone to want to agree with you.

4/16/2012 9:47:56 PM

Yeah, not being a racist idiot is so hard to agree with.

A user on here literally said, "Saying nigger isn't racist," and everyone seemed to just smile and nod and carry on.

What does that say about you?

[Edited on April 16, 2012 at 9:50 PM. Reason : ]

4/16/2012 9:49:23 PM

You are a racist idiot.

I don't defend tacolu for saying that. He was wrong. I also think you are wrong for defending Tyler Perry when he clearly violated the law in way that would get anyone pulled over.



[Edited on April 16, 2012 at 9:52 PM. Reason : Two racists on opposite ends of the spectrum]

4/16/2012 9:49:38 PM

Speaking of illegal U-turns, it's so common in Texas that you get a ticket if you dont make one.

4/16/2012 9:51:34 PM

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"No no, see, it's not the system's fault! That would make me feel guilty."

No no, see, it's completely my fault! I should feel guilty.

4/16/2012 9:53:10 PM

If you aren't part of the solution you're part of the problem.

Racial institutions exist. Fix it.

[Edited on April 16, 2012 at 9:55 PM. Reason : ]

4/16/2012 9:55:33 PM

So I can't live my own life and neither attempt to solve nor escalate the problem? I disagree.

4/16/2012 9:56:48 PM

^^
you are so fucking insufferable, it's almost impressive

[Edited on April 16, 2012 at 9:57 PM. Reason : .]

4/16/2012 9:56:50 PM

I honestly think God has it in for us infidels, posting on TWW is the start of his jihad on the white man. I'm on to you son.



[Edited on April 16, 2012 at 10:04 PM. Reason : $]

4/16/2012 9:58:29 PM

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"^^^ His point is that despite the statistical evidence of how blacks are negatively assessed by all levels of the legal system, just for being black, you'll never get certain people to admit any single instance is an example of this profiling."

His point is moot because he's completely biased and full of shit. All white people are racist bastards and all black people are oppressed & treated unfairly. The rest of us reasonable people know that the truth is in between and get tired of people like him turning everything into a racial drama.

Profiling sucks but it's not going away because it gets results. Sorry but that's the facts. Sometimes it's bullshit racism and sometimes it's legitimately suspicious. If criminals are caught 20-30% of the time, it will keep happening because it's a proven successful tactic. Does it suck and is it completely unfair for the other 70-80%? Hell yes but it doesn't matter. Law enforcement is just like any other business. If something works, you're going to keep doing it. 95% of the time, it's business, not racism. Unfortunately, idiots like God, Sharpton, & Jackson would like us all to believe that anytime a black person is pulled over, it's because of the color of their skin and not because of whatever illegal thing they were caught doing.

This case is a perfect example. It was advertised as a White on Black murder and everyone blew up. Then we find out that the guy is Latino and may have had legitimate reason to be suspicious (kids in hoodies robbing houses in his neighborhood). Then it's the cops that are racist because they didn't arrest him. Everyone ignored the fact that there was evidence that he acted within the law (whether you agree with said law or not) AND the fact that the police investigate and it's up to the prosecutor to decide on charges. This case isn't about racism. It's about a dumb motherfucker that killed a kid that should be home playing xbox and a lack of firm evidence as to his actions. Meanwhile, fuckers like God want to push their white shame agenda and blow it up and do nothing more than HURT race relations even more because sensible people are tired of hearing stupid shit from stupid people. The result is that many people are going to ignore racism even more because it's "probably just another Sharpton/Jackson publicity stunt" or they're going to use it like taculo as more "proof" that "niggers will be niggers."

4/16/2012 10:14:41 PM

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"Profiling sucks but it's not going away because it gets results. Sorry but that's the facts. Sometimes it's bullshit racism and sometimes it's legitimately suspicious. If criminals are caught 20-30% of the time, it will keep happening because it's a proven successful tactic. Does it suck and is it completely unfair for the other 70-80%? Hell yes but it doesn't matter. Law enforcement is just like any other business. If something works, you're going to keep doing it. 95% of the time, it's business, not racism. Unfortunately, idiots like God, Sharpton, & Jackson would like us all to believe that anytime a black person is pulled over, it's because of the color of their skin and not because of whatever illegal thing they were caught doing. "

This is the dumbest paragraph. You manage to contradict yourself halfway through. But keep spouting statistics out of your ass.

4/16/2012 10:34:44 PM

I totally get what he is trying to say.

People get profiled for a reason.

Because over the course of certain time periods, one type of person statistically is proven to do something more than other people.

Nobody considers the fact that black people get profiled because guess what, statistically they commit more crimes.

So, if you had to choose between a white guy or a black guy, odds are the black guy is going to have the drugs on him or whatever more than the white guy.

You'd be a horrible cop if you consistently went after the part of the population that statistically commits less crimes.

But people don't want to hear this.

The same reason that middle eastern people get profiled for being terrorists wanting to blow up planes or hijack them, because guess what, statistically those are the types of people that do it.

4/16/2012 10:57:40 PM

4/16/2012 10:59:59 PM

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"So, if you had to choose between a white guy or a black guy, odds are the black guy is going to have the drugs on him or whatever more than the white guy."

Actually, White peoples statistically have more drugs on them, so that kinda blows your whole "it's okay to be prejudiced" theory out of the water.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/27/opinion/la-ed-arrests-20101027

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"White people between the ages of 18 and 25 use marijuana at a higher rate than their black peers, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, so you would naturally assume that young white people would also have a higher arrest rate for marijuana possession than young black people. But that's not the case. A report released last week found that police in California's biggest cities arrest blacks for possession at four, five and even 13 times the rate of whites. According to the new study, issued jointly by the California NAACP and the Drug Policy Alliance, blacks in Los Angeles are arrested for possession of marijuana at seven times the rate of whites; in San Diego, at six times the rate. In Torrance, the numbers are particularly striking, with blacks arrested at 13.8 times the rate of whites. Indeed, the phenomenon occurs in every county in the state and involves almost every police department. The upshot for those arrested, even if they don't end up in prison, is a permanent record that has lifelong consequences. Most marijuana possession arrests do not lead to long prison sentences these days, but having an arrest record and the stigma of being a "drug offender" negatively affects opportunities for employment and housing and higher education. Such information also is visible to credit agencies, licensing boards and banks. California recently downgraded the charge to an infraction — a positive step — but collateral damage is still likely; the low-income people most commonly arrested would have the most difficulty paying the fines for the infraction — and failure to do so would bring the charge back to a misdemeanor. Why are blacks arrested at such disproportionate rates? The report concludes that it's not personal prejudice or racism on the part of police officers. The NAACP says it is the result of the long-standing strategy of saturating minority communities with officers who then overzealously stop and frisk people. Were such a strategy pursued in a white community, a high number of arrests would result there as well. The police say they are simply trying protect the citizens in high-crime areas."

4/16/2012 11:02:27 PM

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"The same reason that middle eastern people get profiled for being terrorists wanting to blow up planes or hijack them, because guess what, statistically those are the types of people that do it."

Well, if we're going to profile, we might as well frisk all White people






Besides, you mentioned earlier that all serial killers are White, right? As you say, "Those are the types of people that do it." So that means you should be stopped and frisked by a police officer every chance they see you, because if they don't they are horrible cops.

[Edited on April 16, 2012 at 11:08 PM. Reason : ]

4/16/2012 11:05:11 PM

i, too, love actively seeking out things to guilt me into hating myself for things i have no control over

4/16/2012 11:06:31 PM

I bet you couldn't even tell the difference between a Libyian, a Syrian, an Arab, and a Persian you fucking hack. (Hint: They don't look anything alike, yet terrorist cells operate in all of those countries)

4/16/2012 11:06:53 PM

1. you misspelled Libyan
2. "arab" isn't a country
3. i can't differentiate any of the given races, because i'm not a racist like you are

4/16/2012 11:09:09 PM

-I was speaking to toculu
-Ahh yes, the "I don't see race, I'm colorblind! *proceeds to be prejudiced without guilt*" defense!

4/16/2012 11:10:00 PM

some people just aren't huge racists like you God, thats something you'll have to learn

not everyone meticulously tries to break down and explain the differences between people of various backgrounds

4/16/2012 11:11:42 PM

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"Actually, White peoples statistically have more drugs on them, so that kinda blows your whole "it's okay to be prejudiced" theory out of the water"

lol, oh really? Statistics don't prove that.

And I love how you post an article only referring to weed USE. The fact that white people between the age of 18-25, which is only a portion of the population, use it more, doesn't mean they have it on them more.

Also, McVeigh blew up a plane? News to me.

And yes, statistics show that serial killers are usually white males, this is almost common knowledge.

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"I bet you couldn't even tell the difference between a Libyian, a Syrian, an Arab, and a Persian you fucking hack. (Hint: They don't look anything alike, yet terrorist cells operate in all of those countries) "

Probably not, which is why I said "Middle Eastern"

I bet I can't tell them apart from each other, but I can tell them apart from Australians, or Canadians, or Irish, etc...

4/16/2012 11:13:29 PM

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" This is the dumbest paragraph. You manage to contradict yourself halfway through. But keep spouting statistics out of your ass."

No, you're just too tucking retarded and caught up in your "white people are evil" to understand anything.

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" Because over the course of certain time periods, one type of person statistically is proven to do something more than other people. Nobody considers the fact that black people get profiled because guess what, statistically they commit more crimes."

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" Besides, you mentioned earlier that all serial killers are White, right? As you say, "Those are the types of people that do it. So that means you should be stopped and frisked by a police officer every chance they see you, because if you didn't you are a horrible cop."

No. I specifically said that race is rarely the "profile". I also disagree that blacks statistically commit more crimes. Blacks get caught, prosecuted, and found guilty for more crimes. Quite a difference there. If anything, blacks may be more likely to commit "good" crimes that carry harsher penalties, look better for the DA to prosecute (crack cocaine has a distorted view as "worse" than powder for example", and are less likely to be able to afford high priced lawyers that pose a challenge in the courts.

4/16/2012 11:15:51 PM

tacolu, don't you realize that you, me and God are the direct reason for Trayvon Martin's death? get a clue you right wing hack

4/16/2012 11:16:10 PM

You are so fucking dense it hurts to respond to you.

Let me spell out why you are wrong and stupid.

You make a claim that statistically Black people commit more crimes and therefore should be suspected more by police.

I post a statistic to disprove this idiotic theory you use to justify your prejudice. You dismiss it by saying statistics don't prove it? Are you retarded?

And no, it's not because "there are more White people." It's a percentage you fucking dolt. Independent of population.

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"I bet I can't tell them apart from each other, but I can tell them apart from Australians, or Canadians, or Irish, etc..."

You know there are Black and tanned and bearded and turban-wearing versions of all of those groups, right?

Let's play a game, which one of these is a terrorist:





Better check the turban and bearded sand guy, because I hear they're all terrorists. Let the young kid through. Oh wait, that was the shoe bomber and we just frisked the former Prime Minister of Afghanistan.

You fucking idiot.

4/16/2012 11:20:46 PM

White kids go to college and smoke pot? INCREDIBLE.

Yet minorities are "saturated" by police and involved in more searches and seizures?

Perhaps that could be because of the other crime statistics... which races do more serious drugs? Or commit more murders? More theft?

4/16/2012 11:21:16 PM

i always think its weird when God posts something in a quote box

4/16/2012 11:22:14 PM

tacolu, racial profiling is damn racist and unconstitutional regardless of what bullshit excuses you make up to support it.

4/16/2012 11:22:58 PM

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"White kids go to college and smoke pot? INCREDIBLE."

See, this is where the prejudice and racial bias comes into play.

When a White kid smokes pot, he's just a college kid havin' fun with his bong. No harm done.

When a Black kid smokes pot, he's a hard-nosed thug gangsta who is into some murder.

4/16/2012 11:24:04 PM

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"I post a statistic to disprove this idiotic theory you use to justify your prejudice. You dismiss it by saying statistics don't prove it? Are you retarded? And no, it's not because "there are more White people." It's a percentage you fucking dolt. Independent of population. "

Because your little link didn't prove anything.

It was a fucking study done about weed use in California of people 18-25.

Guess what you fucking idiot.

THERE ARE OTHER STATES THAN CALIFORNIA.

THERE ARE OTHER DRUGS OTHER THAN MARIJUANA.

THERE ARE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE AGES 18-25.

And again, just because "white" people use more weed than blacks, doesn't mean that there aren't twice as many blacks out there dealing it.

You basically posted a worthless fucking article and are too god damn stupid to realize it.

Guess what, did it ever cross your mind that black people might deal drugs more? Cops tend to go after dealers more than users.



[Edited on April 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM. Reason : .]

4/16/2012 11:26:20 PM

yeah cause this whole thread and nationwide concept of racial differences are all about smoking weed

4/16/2012 11:26:47 PM

Statistically more white kids go to college than black kids.

Damn those racist numbers for being racist.

4/16/2012 11:27:38 PM

Because the colleges turn down the black applicants for being black.

Has nothing to do with the fact that statistically black students have worse grades and standardized test scores.

Nothing. At. All.

4/16/2012 11:29:53 PM

But dont college admission people know that white kids ages 18-25 smoke pot at a higher rate than black kids?

DISGUSTING

4/16/2012 11:31:10 PM

tomorrow when i smoke an L with my multicultural friends, I'll take the Spyderco to my femural cause I mean, can't have TWW user God thinking I'm racist

4/16/2012 11:35:37 PM

i'm glad to see tacolu is still goin strong itt

4/16/2012 11:41:25 PM

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"And again, just because "white" people use more weed than blacks, doesn't mean that there aren't twice as many blacks out there dealing it."

Ahh yes, because you just want to assume this without any evidence. Because that would prove you right, because if it wasn't true then you'd just be assuming Black people were more likely to be criminals. Which would be racist. So I guess unless you can back it up, if it looks like a duck....

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"Statistically more white kids go to college than black kids."

I don't get what you're saying here. Are you denying racial bias in almost every aspect of the process that has an effect in college attendance?

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"Because the colleges turn down the black applicants for being black. Has nothing to do with the fact that statistically black students have worse grades and standardized test scores."

And, what? Black people are just dumber, right? Is that what you're saying? Just say it.

I mean, it's not like people won't hire people based solely on a black-sounding name, oh wait:



http://papers.nber.org/papers/w9873

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"We perform a field experiment to measure racial discrimination in the labor market. We respond with fictitious resumes to help-wanted ads in Boston and Chicago newspapers. To manipulate perception of race, each resume is assigned either a very African American sounding name or a very White sounding name. The results show significant discrimination against African-American names: White names receive 50 percent more callbacks for interviews. We also find that race affects the benefits of a better resume. For White names, a higher quality resume elicits 30 percent more callbacks whereas for African Americans, it elicits a far smaller increase. Applicants living in better neighborhoods receive more callbacks but, interestingly, this effect does not differ by race. The amount of discrimination is uniform across occupations and industries. Federal contractors and employers who list Equal Opportunity Employer' in their ad discriminate as much as other employers. We find little evidence that our results are driven by employers inferring something other than race, such as social class, from the names. These results suggest that racial discrimination is still a prominent feature of the labor market."

I guess none of those people are racist. I mean, they're just assuming the same thing you're assuming, right? That Black people are more likely to be stupid, dropout, drug dealing murderous thugs. Therefore, they shouldn't hire them for jobs!

I'm sure this is in no way a self-serving cyclical cycle that feeds into itself!

[Edited on April 17, 2012 at 1:20 AM. Reason : ]

4/17/2012 1:15:53 AM

Gosh, if only there was a way to make people think completely alike so there could no longer be any racism or negative stigma attached to names. Perhaps you should just become Big Brother and tell us what to think.

4/17/2012 1:21:57 AM