Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not convinced Melvin Gordon isn't a better option than Gurley for us anyway. Guy looks like a Jamal Charles clone, hair and all.
Also, it would not suck to draft WR Greene from FSU in the 3rd round. He seems like the perfect receiver for what we need -- a speedy, shifty guy who runs great routes and has awesome hands.
[Edited on April 1, 2015 at 9:54 AM. Reason : ] 4/1/2015 9:50:55 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27837 Posts user info edit post |
i'm convinced people who think gordon>gurley don't actually watch football. 4/1/2015 10:35:23 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Nobody is worried about Gurley's knee?? 4/1/2015 10:36:48 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
After the Thomas Davis miracle, I believe anything is possible......well, when it comes to knees and the panthers.
[Edited on April 1, 2015 at 10:53 AM. Reason : but I also thought Lattimore was gonna bounce back at the 49ers] 4/1/2015 10:50:18 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Modern medicine has come along way. Also Gurley has legit butterstick talent. 4/1/2015 10:51:14 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
so talented that when he went down georgia just plugged in another of their 50 rbs and didnt miss him at all 4/1/2015 10:58:04 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Oklahoma did ok when Peterson broke his collarbone
Guess he's not a good back either 4/1/2015 11:34:21 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Duke Johnson could end up being the steal of the RB group if he drops a few rounds. 4/1/2015 11:35:40 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so talented that when he went down georgia just plugged in another of their 50 rbs and didnt miss him at all" |
yeah well georgia gets stud running backs. i would also draft nick chubb in the first round.
[Edited on April 1, 2015 at 12:28 PM. Reason : but not sony or keith marshall. sucks for marshall :/]4/1/2015 12:27:39 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27837 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah if you want to talk injury prone, talk Keith Marshall. 4/1/2015 3:54:44 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Bpa is completely illogical outside of the first handful of picks and no one with any sense drafts that way at the end of round 1 in particular. This isnt fantasy football jesus 4/1/2015 6:14:57 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
we shouldve taken teddy bridgewater last year BPA!!!!! 4/1/2015 7:46:33 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I'm stunned you haven't landed a GM role yet. You've got this whole thing figured out. 4/1/2015 10:09:33 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Even if it were magically possible to identify the best player available at the end of the first round (hint: it isnt even remotely possible) teams would still draft on need.
I guess no one was drafting bpa the year brady went 6th round. 4/2/2015 9:05:35 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
I think teams have this thing called a "board" (hint: Gettleman puts one of these together), you may have heard of it, where they rank players overall and by position to monitor how the draft unfolds. It becomes pretty easy to determine the best player left on their board even, gasp, 25 whole picks into the thing. 4/2/2015 9:30:41 AM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think teams have this thing called a "board" (hint: Gettleman puts one of these together), you may have heard of it, where they rank players overall and by position to monitor how the draft unfolds. It becomes pretty easy to determine the best player left on their board even, gasp, 25 whole picks into the thing." |
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Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
wasn't face the one that said we should have drafted Troy Smith? how'd he work out? 4/2/2015 1:16:40 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27837 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bpa is completely illogical outside of the first handful of picks and no one with any sense drafts that way at the end of round 1 in particular" |
:carlface:
the point in taking the best player available is you don't ever, ever reach for a guy because he's at a position you need. of course if there are 6 players with very similar grades and one is at a position of need you're gonna pick him. but you won't draft him over a significantly higher rated player.
FOR EXAMPLE. Let's say the Panthers are on the clock. And let's say they have Gurley rated as the #1 RB in the draft, with a mid-1st round grade. The top 4 WRs and top 4 OTs are gone. Everyone else in those groups has a late 1st - early 2nd round grade. In this case, you take the guy with the substantially higher grade, because in the long term, more talent = better.
Of course in later rounds, there is going to be less difference between prospects, so teams are able to pick up guys that fill needs without reaching. But (good) teams will still take a guy at a non-need position if he falls.
Drafting for need is a recipe for a shitty franchise.4/2/2015 2:27:27 PM |
montclair All American 1372 Posts user info edit post |
In your example, you're valuing all positions equally. That is an even bigger recipe for disaster. 4/2/2015 7:25:27 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think it necessarily means you're valuing all fields equally, it's just you're taking the bias out.
His scenario has them ranked a #1 at a position vs. #4 at a position. Teams are more likely to rank players based on what round they think they're worth drafting.
So in that scenario, it's the first round and you have a RB with a 1st round grade, OT with 2nd round grade, and WR with 2nd round grade. You're able to focus on getting the player you think is the best actual player and less on drafting a position because you need one.
To say you think OT is more valuable than RB(think all teams would agree) and drafting based on that could really lead to some reaches. I mean if you think the guy is only good enough to be a 2nd round draft pick, why take him in the first-round over better overall players just because you need a position and have to reach. You're going to end up with less overall talented players on your roster that way.
I still think we end up taking OT in the first round despite all that. I just like that we've plugged all our roster spots prior to the draft so we can draft the players we want over reaching for a player we "need". 4/3/2015 9:05:27 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
just signed Charles Tillman to a 1-year deal
injury prone and old, but I'm ok with taking a mini, cost-effective risk on him 4/9/2015 3:58:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
I like it and he seems like the perfect fit lockerroom-wise. Dunno if he'll see the field much in 4-3 or nickel packages but he could be a great influence on Benwikere and Norman from a veteran teaching standpoint. He's obviously a character guy (Walter Payton Man of the Year award, etc) but I remember hearing some Bears players say he was the consummate teammate and some of the younger DBs talk about how much he helped them, even when he was hurt last year. 4/9/2015 4:18:13 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
It's also fun to type Peanut. 4/9/2015 4:21:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article19172415.html
Looks like we're gonna see the Kraken on Turkey Day 4/21/2015 6:36:39 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
very, very into it 4/21/2015 6:42:35 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Week 6-9 is a brutal stretch 4/21/2015 8:09:53 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
fuck a Week 5 bye 4/21/2015 8:13:27 PM |