http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1547454

10/15/2008 10:04:25 AM

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"yeah, they will charge you. Its in the print details somewhere."

they never actually charge you though

i remember a while back they did a recall of the powerbook g3 power adapters

they sent me a new one but i never sent the old one back

10/15/2008 10:32:47 AM

Anyone try http://www.funambol.com/ to sync their iphone with thunderbird calendar?

I tried it today at work and my version of lightning is 0.9, the calendar option was greyed out and a note to the side said it was compatible with 0.8. So I removed lightning 0.9 and found a 0.8 version and installed it, kept giving me compatibility errors so I never got it to work.


I did realize that I could just add my google calendar page to my home screen and just use that. Beats having to sync anything.

10/15/2008 9:08:00 PM

^You can sync your google calendar using nuevasync. I use that to sync my calendar and my gmail contacts, it's great.

10/16/2008 7:17:51 AM

Got my replacement power tip for the 3g in the mail today. I am really tempted to hold onto both of them, but I am worried about charge.

Anyone know how much they are charging?

10/16/2008 11:29:37 AM

^probably retail.

10/16/2008 12:50:14 PM

http://lifehacker.com/5064992/firemail-adds-landcape-typing-snippets-to-iphone-email-for-free

free landscape type for email

10/17/2008 11:32:50 AM

best app ever?

http://www.tjware.com/TJWare/TJWare.html

10/18/2008 2:35:51 PM

ahahaha

10/18/2008 4:37:18 PM

is there an app that zooms the camera without jailbreaking?

10/18/2008 5:34:47 PM

^^^Awesome, haha

10/18/2008 5:58:19 PM

I can't stop playing Galcon.

10/20/2008 10:51:42 PM

When are they gonna software-unlock the 3G iphone?

10/21/2008 11:31:07 PM

^ they seem to be doing just fine w/o it (although I would love to see a Verizon iPhone next year)

These are amazing numbers....

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"Apple announced quarterly iPhone sales that surpassed those of BlackBerry maker Research in Motion by nearly a million and a half units or 25%: nearly 6.9 million iPhones versus 5.4 million BlackBerry units in the third calendar quarter of 2008."

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"Apple also announced that it is now the third largest mobile phone maker by revenue, after Nokia and Samsung. With mobile sales of $4.6 billion for the quarter, Apple is ahead of Sony Ericsson $4.2 billion, LG at $3.4 billion, Motorola with $3.2 billion, and seventh place RIM at $2.1 billion."

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/10/21/apple_iphone_3g_sales_surpass_rims_blackberry.html

10/22/2008 12:21:45 AM

Cool. This iCycle (http://www.tjware.com) can save me a lot of headaches and arguments with my girlfriend. Technology is a mutha. LOL

10/22/2008 10:48:51 AM

^^hahahaha... thats sad for the other mobile phone manufacturers that they've been surpassed by someone who only makes 1 phone.

I guess the 450 layoffs in RTP happened for a reason. FAIL

10/22/2008 10:53:22 AM

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"although I would love to see a Verizon iPhone next year"

the iphone with it's current hardware isn't going to work on verizon whether it's unlocked or not

at&t=GSM
verizon=CDMA

they aren't compatible at all

[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 11:03 AM. Reason : asdf]

10/22/2008 11:02:47 AM

John Gruber at DaringFireball is pulling out all the articles from 2007 predicting the death or failure of the iPhone.

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"John C. Dvorak, calling for Apple to abandon the iPhone in March 2007: The problem here is that while Apple can play the fashion game as well as any company, there is no evidence that it can play it fast enough. These phones go in and out of style so fast that unless Apple has half a dozen variants in the pipeline, its phone, even if immediately successful, will be passé within 3 months. There is no likelihood that Apple can be successful in a business this competitive."

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"Steve Ballmer on the iPhone’s prospects, back in April 2007: There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It’s a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money."

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"Richard Sprague, a senior marketing director at Microsoft, back in January 2007: I can’t believe the hype being given to iPhone. Even some of my blindly-loyal pro-Microsoft friends and colleagues talk like it’s a real innovation and will “redefine the market” or “usher in a new age”. What!?!? […] I just have to wonder who will want one of these things (other than the religious faithful). People need this to be a phone, first and foremost. But with 5 hours of battery life? No keypad? (you try typing a phone number on that screen, no matter how wonderful it is — you will want a keypad). And for all that whiz-bang Internet access, you absolutely need the phone to work, immediately, every single time. Will it do that? So please mark this post and come back in two years to see the results of my prediction: I predict they will not sell anywhere near the 10M Jobs predicts for 2008."

http://daringfireball.net/

10/22/2008 2:18:13 PM

A lot of people are really tech-luddites.

Notice all those people are executives, and writers. You won't find many common folks, designers, or researchers who thought the iphone would be anything but a wild success. Especially when the finally folded into the subsidized model. That seriously hampered sales of the 1G iphone

10/22/2008 2:25:54 PM

D'OH

10/22/2008 2:27:10 PM

^^ executives and writers, sure, but certainly you cannot call Dvorak and Steve Ballmer luddites.
Of course they both (more so Ballmer) have a vested interest in hoping for the death or non-success of the iPhone, but their comments were still amazingly un-insightful

10/22/2008 2:39:04 PM

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"Richard Sprague, a senior marketing director at Microsoft, back in January 2007: I can’t believe the hype being given to iPhone. Even some of my blindly-loyal pro-Microsoft friends and colleagues talk like it’s a real innovation and will “redefine the market” or “usher in a new age”. What!?!? […] I just have to wonder who will want one of these things (other than the religious faithful). People need this to be a phone, first and foremost. But with 5 hours of battery life? No keypad? (you try typing a phone number on that screen, no matter how wonderful it is — you will want a keypad). And for all that whiz-bang Internet access, you absolutely need the phone to work, immediately, every single time. Will it do that? So please mark this post and come back in two years to see the results of my prediction: I predict they will not sell anywhere near the 10M Jobs predicts for 2008"

Another reason why M$ = FAIL...they hire dumb asses like this guy.

I wonder if he's also the same dumb ass responsible for the "I'm PC" ads.

[Edited on October 22, 2008 at 3:38 PM. Reason : .]

10/22/2008 3:36:22 PM

it's like all those people who couldn't open their eyes and realize that blu-ray was going to win out over HD-DVD

10/22/2008 3:44:52 PM

^actually no...nothing like that....bad analogy.

10/22/2008 3:46:08 PM

^^^Hence why I said

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"A lot of people are really tech-luddites. Notice all those people are executives, and writers."

And notice Sprague is a MARKETING DIRECTOR. Guess who has almost 0 input into product direct at Microsoft? Marketing. They sell what we make, they don't decide what we make. I wouldn't call him a dumbass at all. Just like Ballmer, Sprague has a very big incentive for it to fail or downplay it's potential impact.

^^ And I wouldn't call Ballmer a techie. Dvorak either. Dvorak is as much of a tech luddite as there is in the tech arena. It becomes more apparent with every new column he writes that he is totally out of touch with what is happening in the modern technology world. Ballmer is a great business leader, absolutely no doubt there, but I have high doubts that he is really up on the tech world, in the way many of us are.

10/22/2008 6:24:26 PM

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"I wouldn't call him a dumbass at all. Just like Ballmer, Sprague has a very big incentive for it to fail or downplay it's potential impact."

If you want your products to be used by the general public and to be successful, your marketing team/director will play a huge roll in that...so it generally helps for them not to be dumbasses.

10/22/2008 10:30:04 PM

here's other naysayers

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"• "[iPhone] just doesn't matter anymore. There are now alternatives to the iPhone, which has been introduced everywhere else in the world. It's no longer a novelty." - Eamon Hoey, Hoey and Associates, April 30, 2008 • "We are not at all worried. We think we've got the one mobile platform you'll use for the rest of your life. [Apple] are not going to catch up." - Scott Rockfeld, Microsoft Mobile Communications Group Product Manager, April 01, 2008 • "Microsoft, with Windows Mobile/ActiveSync, Nokia with Intellisync, and Motorola with Good Technology have all fared poorly in the enterprise. We have no reason to expect otherwise from Apple." - Peter Misek, Canaccord Adams analyst, March 07, 2008 • "[Apple should sell 7.9 million iPhones in 2008]... Apple's goal of selling 10 million iPhones this year is optimistic." - Toni Sacconaghi, Bernstein Research analyst, February 22, 2008 • "What does the iPhone offer that other cell phones do not already offer, or will offer soon? The answer is not very much... Apple’s stated goal of selling 10 million iPhones by the end of 2008 seems ambitious." - Laura Goldman, LSG Capital, May 21, 2007 • Motorola's then-Chairman and then-CEO Ed Zander said his company was ready for competition from Apple's iPhone, due out the following month. "How do you deal with that?" Zander was asked at the Software 2007 conference. Zander quickly retorted, "How do they deal with us?" - Ed Zander, May 10, 2007 • "The iPhone is going to be nothing more than a temporary novelty that will eventually wear off." - Gundeep Hora, CoolTechZone Editor-in-Chief, April 02, 2007 • "Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone... What Apple risks here is its reputation as a hot company that can do no wrong. If it's smart it will call the iPhone a 'reference design' and pass it to some suckers to build with someone else's marketing budget. Then it can wash its hands of any marketplace failures... Otherwise I'd advise people to cover their eyes. You are not going to like what you'll see." - John C. Dvorak, Bloated Gas Bag, March 28, 2007 • "Even if [the iPhone] is opened up to third parties, it is difficult to see how the installed base of iPhones can reach the level where it becomes a truly attractive service platform for operator and developer investment." - Tony Cripps, Ovum Service Manager for Mobile User Experience, March 14, 2007 • "I'm more convinced than ever that, after an initial frenzy of publicity and sales to early adopters, iPhone sales will be unspectacular... iPhone may well become Apple's next Newton." - David Haskin, Computerworld, February 26, 2007 • "There's an old saying -- stick to your knitting -- and Apple is not a mobile phone manufacturer, that's not their knitting... I think people overreacted to it -- there was not a lot of tremendously new stuff if you think about it." - Greg Winn, Telstra's operations chief, February 15, 2007 • "Consumers are not used to paying another couple hundred bucks more just because Apple makes a cool product. Some fans will buy [iPhone], but for the rest of us it's a hard pill to swallow just to have the coolest thing." - Neil Strother, NPD Group analyst, January 22, 2007 • "I can’t believe the hype being given to iPhone... I just have to wonder who will want one of these things (other than the religious faithful)... So please mark this post and come back in two years to see the results of my prediction: I predict they will not sell anywhere near the 10M Jobs predicts for 2008." - Richard Sprague, Microsoft Senior Marketing Director, January 18, 2007 • "The iPhone's willful disregard of the global handset market will come back to haunt Apple." - Tero Kuittinen, RealMoney.com, January 18, 2007 • "[Apple's iPhone] is the most expensive phone in the world and it doesn't appeal to business customers because it doesn't have a keyboard which makes it not a very good email machine... So, I, I kinda look at that and I say, well, I like our strategy. I like it a lot." - Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO, January 17, 2007 • "The iPhone is nothing more than a luxury bauble that will appeal to a few gadget freaks. In terms of its impact on the industry, the iPhone is less relevant... Apple is unlikely to make much of an impact on this market... Apple will sell a few to its fans, but the iPhone won't make a long-term mark on the industry." - Matthew Lynn, Bloomberg, January 15, 2007 • "iPhone which doesn't look, I mean to me, I'm looking at this thing and I think it's kind of trending against, you know, what's really going, what people are really liking on, in these phones nowadays, which are those little keypads. I mean, the Blackjack from Samsung, the Blackberry, obviously, you know kind of pushes this thing, the Palm, all these... And I guess some of these stocks went down on the Apple announcement, thinking that Apple could do no wrong, but I think Apple can do wrong and I think this is it." - John C. Dvorak, Bloated Gas Bag, January 13, 2007 • "I am pretty skeptical. I don’t think [iPhone] will meet the fantastic predictions I have been reading. For starters, while Apple basically established the market for portable music players, the phone market is already established, with a number of major brands. Can Apple remake the phone market in its image? Success is far from guaranteed." - Jack Gold, founder and principal analyst at J. Gold Associates, January 11, 2007 • "Apple will launch a mobile phone in January, and it will become available during 2007. It will be a lovely bit of kit, a pleasure to behold, and its limited functionality will be easy to access and use. The Apple phone will be exclusive to one of the major networks in each territory and some customers will switch networks just to get it, but not as many as had been hoped. As customers start to realise that the competition offers better functionality at a lower price, by negotiating a better subsidy, sales will stagnate. After a year a new version will be launched, but it will lack the innovation of the first and quickly vanish. The only question remaining is if, when the iPod phone fails, it will take the iPod with it." - Bill Ray, The Register, December 26, 2006 • "The economics of something like [an Apple iPhone] aren't that compelling." - Rod Bare, Morningstar analyst, December 08, 2006 • "Apple is slated to come out with a new phone... And it will largely fail.... Sales for the phone will skyrocket initially. However, things will calm down, and the Apple phone will take its place on the shelves with the random video cameras, cell phones, wireless routers and other would-be hits... When the iPod emerged in late 2001, it solved some major problems with MP3 players. Unfortunately for Apple, problems like that don't exist in the handset business. Cell phones aren't clunky, inadequate devices. Instead, they are pretty good. Really good." - Michael Kanellos, CNET, December 07, 2006 • "We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone. PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in." - Ed Colligan, Palm CEO, November 16, 2006 "

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/18840/

10/22/2008 11:40:58 PM

Quote :

""Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone... What Apple risks here is its reputation as a hot company that can do no wrong. If it's smart it will call the iPhone a 'reference design' and pass it to some suckers to build with someone else's marketing budget. Then it can wash its hands of any marketplace failures... Otherwise I'd advise people to cover their eyes. You are not going to like what you'll see." - John C. Dvorak, Bloated Gas Bag, March 28, 2007"

this ones pretty funny. do these people still have their jobs? Sound like they're just on the old apple hate bandwagon and have no evidence to back-up their theories besides "others have failed"

10/22/2008 11:43:43 PM

So what are some of your favorite apps?

10/23/2008 3:19:13 AM

Honestly, before 3G and the AppStore, I wasnt on the bandwagon. I hate the phone when it is on edge, and in my opinion, its not very useful at that point. I dont think any of these execs had any idea how explosive and important the appstore would be, or how much an improvement 3G made to the phone.

I know people that have the 2G version still like the phone, but for me to use the phone, 2G was insufficient.

10/24/2008 11:33:12 AM

^Yep, I think your sentiments carry for like 95% of the user base. Without 3G the iPhone would be marginal. Without the AppStore, it would be pretty even competition with the rest of the smartphone market.

10/24/2008 2:26:47 PM

i still have but a 2G, and I still love it. i'm sure once i get the 3G i'll never be able to go back, but in the meantime, i'm still a pretty happy customer

10/24/2008 2:29:14 PM

first generation iphones were 2.5G or edge

all these g's always screwin ppl up

10/24/2008 2:33:19 PM

eh i'm beginning to realize i like having an ipod touch AND a WM phone. If i simply had an iPhone i would kill the battery and not have a phone. Now i can use my ipod, kill the battery, and still have a full charge on my phone.

Now if only i could tether my phone to my ipod to get 3g anywhere. Someone needs to hack the nike thing on the 2g touch to tether over bluetooth to my WM phone for internet.

10/24/2008 3:07:41 PM

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"first generation iphones were 2.5G or edge all these g's always screwin ppl up"

haha, you right. as many times as i explained it to people, and here i go getting careless myself

10/24/2008 3:16:43 PM

hehe, I'm sure I've screwed it up a few times somewhere

10/24/2008 3:52:11 PM

I call them 1G and 3G

first generation iPhone, and 3G network iPhone

you know, just to add some more confusion to the mix

10/24/2008 6:19:36 PM

Of course you can call them the 1g iphone and the 2g iphone. For first and second generation.

10/24/2008 6:37:56 PM

there is no 2G. It's like Office 2000 and 2003, when neither came out in that year. ITS A CONSPIRACY

iPhone 1G, iPhone 3G

10/24/2008 6:39:58 PM

RAWR RAWR RAWR

10/24/2008 6:41:51 PM

wrote my first iphone app. betches.

10/24/2008 11:16:21 PM

New firmware will give us streetview for google maps.

10/24/2008 11:25:42 PM

[old]

10/25/2008 12:02:43 AM

Lux Touch seems really fun. I've only played it once so far, but essentially it is Risk for the iPhone. and it's free.

just thought i'd throw out a suggestion for those of u looking for fun apps

10/27/2008 4:43:07 PM

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/google-earth-now-available-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/

10/27/2008 6:13:38 PM

n00b question alert.


But is there a way to store your App store username/password? I hate having to enter that shit in everytime I want a new app. I know it keeps it cached if you enter it in and download apps, but once you exit out of the App store it doesnt store the credentials

10/27/2008 7:07:13 PM

I got google earth today, very cool

10/27/2008 7:22:42 PM

haven't read the last few pages but every since the last update, i get phantom vibrates and text noises 5 minutes after i get a text. this makes me

10/27/2008 8:20:17 PM

^ummm its a feature dude. If you get a text and you don't look at it (i.e. leaving it on the home locked screen) it will keep reminding you until you acknowledge you have a txt.

10/27/2008 8:26:59 PM

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"Lux Touch seems really fun. I've only played it once so far, but essentially it is Risk for the iPhone. and it's free."

yeah that game is pretty cool...though i really don't understand how the armies get distributed. you think you're doing well and then one of your opponents gets like 150 armies...wtf? on a semi-related note, how do you use those cards that pop up? do they have to be on your land to use them?


also, does the app store have ANYTHING like categories? that pretty much the only reason i jailbreak, and i'd rather not jail break unless i have to.

10/27/2008 10:43:50 PM