Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Ahaha good point! 2/7/2006 10:21:32 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
jsut start with the miniseries movie thing, then the first season. you will then be hooked like crackbeat and your raw animal instincts will do the rest. Don't watch the ancient version. 2/7/2006 11:20:12 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
^do that 2/8/2006 4:30:51 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
well...that was unexpected 2/10/2006 11:55:15 PM |
confusi0n All American 5076 Posts user info edit post |
billy 2/11/2006 12:06:04 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
another A episode 2/11/2006 11:26:46 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
That was a good episode.
Was it just me, or did Sharon look a little evil at the end? 2/11/2006 12:08:32 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
bravo for bsg killing a character without the whole
"This week on a special episode of Battlestar......SOMEONE DIES!!!!"
::cue dramatic music and flash of all the characters on the screen:: 2/11/2006 7:37:16 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
He wasn't really a main character though. He kind of disappeared for a while, they brought him back the previous show, then they kill him this one. 2/11/2006 11:01:10 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Made me sad that they showed how much promise he had at the begining of the episode then he ends up dying.
I am very curious when they will do an episode on the main plot arc and why the prisoner wouldnt tell the old man what other cylons there were 2/12/2006 4:34:36 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
^ soon im guessing 2/12/2006 4:42:37 PM |
DSMears All American 1673 Posts user info edit post |
^ because she's still EVIL. Duh. 2/12/2006 4:42:44 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
<3 me some Boomer
have my cylon babies 2/12/2006 5:11:59 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ If you look at some of the upcoming episode descriptions there are [spoilers] that may indicate why... 2/12/2006 5:55:25 PM |
scud All American 10804 Posts user info edit post |
goddamn grace park is SO fine jadn 2/12/2006 5:56:19 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Wow I watched the miniseries and First 3 episodes of Season 1. Holy shit, my NetFlix queue is now only BSG discs at the front.
What other shows from SciFi do ya'll recommend in a similar vein as this when I'm done watching all of BSG? I am going to probably do Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis, which will probably tie up another month, and then I'm thinking maybe trying Babylon 5 (I watched a little when it was on, but not much). What other shows do ya'll suggest? Farscape? Dark Angel? I never saw either of them. I'm a big scifi fan and love Star Wars, Trek, BSG now, etc. 2/12/2006 6:09:48 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
^ Space: Above and Beyond is the closest sci-fi show to the current version of BSG
^^ and yes, Grace Park wanna be my baby momma
[Edited on February 12, 2006 at 6:53 PM. Reason : I'd fuck Starbuck, too. HARD.] 2/12/2006 6:52:43 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ because she's still EVIL. Duh.
" |
for some reason I think the reason is more complicated than that2/12/2006 7:01:07 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Yea Jadn, I watched some of Space: Above and Beyond when it was on TV, but its never made it to DVD. I searched for that as soon as I got Netflix. 2/12/2006 7:55:03 PM |
confusi0n All American 5076 Posts user info edit post |
b5 is well worth watching IF done correctly ie. in order and keeping in mind that past the first season it gets unbelievably better.
Farscape is just hands down awesome
Firefly: same - altho short
SG-1/Atlantis: SG-1 started out pretty good now it's mediocre but still watchable. Kinda happens after 10 seasons though. 2/12/2006 8:01:35 PM |
Axelay All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I watched some of Space: Above and Beyond when it was on TV, but its never made it to DVD." |
Sure it did, I got the box set the very day it came out this past year. It starts out kinda hokey, but the later episodes are absolutely fantastic. The CGI is extremely dated, though! You'll be hard pressed to find any finer episodes of any sci-fi show than "The Angriest Angel" in this series.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BCCAEQ/qid=1139804835/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8554222-3385751?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=130
It's cheapest at Amazon right now.2/12/2006 11:30:51 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yeah, i was actually about to buy it the other day 2/12/2006 11:52:07 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Holy shit I have found something that is NOT on NetFlix. 2/13/2006 6:59:59 PM |
hkhaygoo All American 898 Posts user info edit post |
Last night episode rocked! Its always nice to seem some dogfights! 2/18/2006 10:46:14 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
ahahahah I knew Lee was gonna become Commander of the Pegasus as soon as they started talkin about him getting promoted and going over there to "help out" 2/18/2006 1:58:14 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
man... this would have been a good way for pegasus to go out...
of course, i have an idea of how that's going to happen. 2/19/2006 6:15:59 PM |
legatic All American 7481 Posts user info edit post |
did anyone else just want to slap the former Pegasus Commander? 2/19/2006 7:08:18 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
exactly what is the Pegasus now?
its been nuked....so..... 2/19/2006 7:25:16 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
it's just damaged. it's the magic of scifi. the ship'll get the crap blasted out of it and magically be fixed the next episode.
plus I mean they do have mining ships and refinery ships to make parts and help with repairs right? 2/19/2006 9:29:35 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
yea....but...radiation...n stuff....seems like they need to have an episode of repair ...
[Edited on February 19, 2006 at 9:43 PM. Reason : -] 2/19/2006 9:43:15 PM |
hkhaygoo All American 898 Posts user info edit post |
Galactica got nuked in the first season and its still running. 2/19/2006 9:45:15 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
yeah these ships are designed to be resistant to nukes. 2/19/2006 10:24:40 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Well I guess Baltar is finally going to go all out antagonist now. 2/20/2006 2:17:50 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
great episode.
baltar is awesome 2/20/2006 2:19:03 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
So about the pegasus's crew.
Anyone think the crew will try to revolt agaisnt Adama in some way considering as soon as they joined up with the fleet that Cain was killed, then Her ex-o was killed, and now the former Pegasus Commander? And now Adama's son is in command of the ship.
Possible? 2/20/2006 3:09:29 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
^^no doubt he will be put in his place sooner or later
hes a freak. 2/20/2006 3:09:39 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
^^ No way that happens. I think the Pegasus crew is going to wind down now that they don't have a shitty commander. 2/20/2006 6:06:40 PM |
dyson All American 563 Posts user info edit post |
so i just got to my dvr and watched the episode... and lee gets two promotions in less than 3(?) episodes? wow... but gotta love the space battles... always a good call 2/20/2006 11:19:32 PM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
^^ you obviously don't catch on quickly. It's clear that there are no sacred cows for the writers. Also, how can anyone with a brain not see that a pegasus revolt would be way more interesting than if they just submitted themselves peacefully???
This show is all about "things are going to get bad before they get worse"
[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 11:24 PM. Reason : sdf] 2/20/2006 11:23:40 PM |
philihp All American 8349 Posts user info edit post |
The rest of the pegasus command is pretty docile, and Lee pretty much proved himself in that episode. That was exactly the thing he needed to do to get command; Adama couldn't just put his son there... but the Engineer guy pretty much handed over command in front of the bridge once he had fucked up. There really isn't anyone better to take the post. 2/21/2006 9:13:54 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
baltar ... hes not human
he cant be
(he was killed in a nuclear blast with first 6, if she was killed, he was killed)
[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 10:08 PM. Reason : -] 2/24/2006 10:04:29 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Oh this is good! Six was in love with baltar and has visions of him! 2/24/2006 10:09:25 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
at least, unlike with LOST, shit actually adds up.
Quote : | "this one thinks shes more human than cyclon, just like someone else i know" |
baltar is a cyclon. he was talking about another version of himself.
proof:
-someone else was downloaded into his brain -his house was destroyed and six was killed on caprica, he could have only survived if he was downloaded into another body. -the quote above, he basically called his other self out.
[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 10:39 PM. Reason : =]2/24/2006 10:10:23 PM |
Boss DJ All American 1558 Posts user info edit post |
sounds reasonable 2/24/2006 10:34:42 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
THEORY:
Baltar isnt just a Cylon. Baltar is the Cylon God
Quote : | " This was a discussion started on the thread called Who is a Cylon. I felt this theory should have a thread of its own. It should be fun to see everyone's ideas on this one. In short: some have theorized that Baltar is actually a Cylon. I think this is true and that he might be The Cylon. Theory follows: Baltar as a human at some point helped the Cylons develop the human models using his vast expertise in genetics and electronics. The bio-cylons believe that he is God. Being an egomaniac, he cannot resist the temptation. He creates a single, genetically identical copy of himself, exactly like him except for his knowledge of the Cylons, to resume his life on Caprica. This cylon model has a mission and a "holy spirit" to guide him, the corporeal and imaginary versions or Six are sent to guide him and be his conscience. Baltar, the Cylon God, promises that his "son" will bring salvation to the Cylons by exacting revenge on their former masters and bring the Cylons "home". Some facts that support this idea:
Baltar has been told by Six on numerous occastions that he is the Chosen One, the one destined to survive and usher in the new race of God's children. Baltar has endured several trials by fire in the episodes 33, Six degrees of Separation, and during the Kobol story arc. In all these he had to give himself over to the will of God. He has performed miracles-including the cure for cancer, using Cylon DNA. There are 12 models just like the 12 disciples.
" |
At the very least, we know now that balter is a clone, with downloaded memories.
Quote : | "I think Gaius Baltar is the Cylon god, and the granddaddy of human-looking Cylon "cyberbiology".
I speculate that he is much older than he appears today. That he did groundbreaking Cybernetic research before the end of the first Colonial/Cylon conflict. That he perfected 40 years ago the method of "wetware" imprinting and replication that is the basis for all Cylon organic technology and the basis for conciousness transfer. In doing this he threw in his lot with those of the Cylons by agreeing to a Faustian bargain: surrenderring his humanity to achieve virtual immortality by his methods of copying his conciousness and transferring it to an "limitless" number of succeeding generations of Cylons.
I also speculate that he perfected some of the "grace notes" in Cylon organic mind control: selective memory erasure (the basis for "sleeper" agents, and his own present incarnation on Gallactica/Kobol), a reliable method of human cloning combined with embedded programmable conciousness. A way to "meld" or combine conciousness (which explains internal Six), although this is reserved for exceptional godlike personages, such as instances of himself.
He's effectively transmuted himself into a parody of the Christian trinity being father, son, and guiding spirit of the newest and deadliest generation of Cylons. The biggest objection to this line of thinking is that Baltar's ego is so large, it's hard to imagine him tolerating multiple simultaneous instances or manifestations of himself. I would think he could tolerate only one version with full knowledge of "the way things really work". The "original" Baltar, an older man than the one we've met is who I think is the Cylon god, narcisisitic enough to allow other manifestations of himself to exist, but cautious and jealous enough to limit their knowledge, memories, and even the boundaries of their own conciousness.
All this is "blue sky" guessing at this point, not nearly enough facts to back it up. I wouldn't be shocked if the story played out this way, though." |
[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 11:35 PM. Reason : =]2/24/2006 11:24:10 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
nah, baltar is just a crazy fuck. 2/25/2006 2:31:43 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ you obviously don't catch on quickly. It's clear that there are no sacred cows for the writers. Also, how can anyone with a brain not see that a pegasus revolt would be way more interesting than if they just submitted themselves peacefully???
This show is all about "things are going to get bad before they get worse"" |
Uh......
Think about this logically here before you go insulting people. The crew of the Pegasus is pretty fucking docile. They didn't revolt against an Admiral who shot her fucking XO in the CIC in front of God and everybody. What in the Christ makes you think they're going to revolt against someone who will be a lot calmer?
and I'm torn on if Baltar is a cylon or not. I don't know how he could survive a nuclear shockwave without being downloaded to a new body, but if he was downloaded, that means there was no need for Number 6 to seduce him in the first place.
Thus bringing up the point - why would the Cylons want two Cylons to fall in love, since they can't physically reproduce anyway?
And why would they want to hide the true nature of the two from each other? A cylon that for all intents and purposes knows he's human falls in love with a cylon that knows she's a cylon but wishes she were human?
[Edited on February 25, 2006 at 10:11 AM. Reason : .]2/25/2006 10:06:55 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and I'm torn on if Baltar is a cylon or not. I don't know how he could survive a nuclear shockwave without being downloaded to a new body, but if he was downloaded, that means there was no need for Number 6 to seduce him in the first place.
Thus bringing up the point - why would the Cylons want two Cylons to fall in love, since they can't physically reproduce anyway?
And why would they want to hide the true nature of the two from each other? A cylon that for all intents and purposes knows he's human falls in love with a cylon that knows she's a cylon but wishes she were human?" |
You didnt read this theory. Balter is a perfect clone of the baltar that created the biocylons, but some of his memories have been erased. He thinks he is 100 percent human, that was the plan of the original baltar. God didnt create jesus and give him knowledge that he was god, he was sent clueless. Balter's 6 is there is there to guide him. Thus the trinity: father, son and holy spirit (six in the brain).
The cyclon God, original balter, could easily insure that they know only what he would want them to know about him, or about his 'son'.
[Edited on February 25, 2006 at 11:13 AM. Reason : -]2/25/2006 11:10:50 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
I did read the theory, I just don't buy into it. There's absolutely no evidence to support it at all, and it is 100% speculation.
[Edited on February 25, 2006 at 11:12 AM. Reason : .] 2/25/2006 11:11:46 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Ron Moore said at the end of season 1, he almost had balter meet God (in the theatre), who was going to be played by balter.
Again, we KNOW baltar was killed on caprica. There had to be some divine intervention, becuase the cylons dont know that hes a cylon, just as you said, there would be NO reason to have to suiduce him.
Quote : | "Baltar has been told by Six on numerous occastions that he is the Chosen One, the one destined to survive and usher in the new race of God's children. Baltar has endured several trials by fire in the episodes 33, Six degrees of Separation, and during the Kobol story arc. In all these he had to give himself over to the will of God. He has performed miracles-including the cure for cancer, using Cylon DNA." |
its also clear now that the president is a cylon, probably, once it is revealed, she will become a 'devil' figure, for reasons which fit into the analogy. she will probably be an antagonist for at least an entire season. she is suppose to lead everyone to a new home....also, her blood is compatible with baby cylon blood.
[Edited on February 25, 2006 at 11:23 AM. Reason : -]2/25/2006 11:15:24 AM |