Now THAT was a damn ending.

[Edited on October 18, 2005 at 11:02 PM. Reason : ]

10/18/2005 10:59:00 PM

Ahahaha....hell yeah. Greatest ending this season..

10/18/2005 10:59:41 PM

I agree

10/18/2005 11:00:25 PM

Next episode looks crazy!

10/18/2005 11:00:53 PM

that episode was great

10/18/2005 11:02:58 PM

good ending

don't know if it was worth the bullshit though

10/18/2005 11:05:19 PM

HAHAHA, I called the ending while I was watching it. That bitch fuct with the wrong person and got cut. This shit is getting interesting. About matt being the carver, I posted that a couple pages back. I still believe it though. I thought about a little conspiracy theory while watching tonight’s episode: Christian is really the carver. To explain this and tonight’s episode: The 3-5 million for the lawyer would hurt business so the other partner (forgot his name) hires someone to carve the detective to get her off of Christians back and get them back and running with their business. What does everyone think of that?

10/18/2005 11:11:19 PM

that ending.... wow, all I can say


What a great episode...


still not sure about the condom thing though

10/18/2005 11:12:55 PM

after watching the beginning...

My New Carver List:

Costa
Matt
Kimber



I still think it's Costa
but they threw out some anti-costa clues in this episode...dna, kimber's interrogation

10/18/2005 11:13:18 PM

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"The 3-5 million for the lawyer would hurt business so the other partner (forgot his name) hires someone to carve the detective to get her off of Christians back and get them back and running with their business. What does everyone think of that? "

but going public with his arrest through the media hurt the business anyway

too convoluted if you ask me

10/18/2005 11:15:09 PM

bobollit is my lead suspect for the carver... think about it!

10/18/2005 11:51:46 PM

bobollit is dead dude

its so matt

10/18/2005 11:52:56 PM

Wasnt there another doctor in the first season thats was trying to rope in Christian, the red headed guy i think.... Maybe its him trying to destroy their business?? just a thought

10/19/2005 12:01:43 AM

that's what the posts above you are talking about





next episode looks creepy

Quote :

"ewwwwwwwww frankenstein necrophilia "

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 12:02 AM. Reason : dfgh]

10/19/2005 12:01:51 AM

bobollit isnt dead. he passed out after deforming himself and huffing nitrous gas. he never died . rewatch the episode

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 12:28 AM. Reason : ]

10/19/2005 12:24:51 AM

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"bobollit is my lead suspect for the carver... think about it!"

very good point

10/19/2005 9:44:30 AM

who the hell is that... the other doctor i talked about earlier??

10/19/2005 10:13:00 AM

costa and christian are twins

thus costa's dna is similar enough to christian's for a false positive

10/19/2005 10:13:23 AM

hmmm... sort of a stretch...

Im wondering if there is a way to see how old sperm in a condom is... then we would know if say Costa stole it from Christians house that night, maybe he left one in the trash can or something because you cant flush them, and he planted it...

10/19/2005 10:15:26 AM

hahaha, that bitch got what she deserved in the end!

10/19/2005 10:19:58 AM

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"costa and christian are twins "

cept they look different...

that ep had the best ending evar.



[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 10:26 AM. Reason : -]

10/19/2005 10:24:21 AM

^so?

10/19/2005 10:39:56 AM

twins looks the same durr

10/19/2005 10:44:19 AM

durrrr not all the time durrrrr

you aren't serious are you???

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 11:04 AM. Reason : however, after researching fraternal twins have dna no more similar than any other siblings]

10/19/2005 11:01:44 AM

so that makes you, wrong.

10/19/2005 11:12:58 AM

not necessarily. it depends how much of the dna strand is tested. siblings should have around 50% of the same dna but could easily share much more or much less. i am not an expert on forensic dna testing but i believe false positives could be possible for a large amount of shared dna.

however, you are wrong as well; both in your declaration that twins must look alike and in your comma usage.

10/19/2005 11:26:23 AM

What about Christian's father? Everyone assumes its a well developed character, but it could be him. We already know his history...

But other than that, it's costa or matt.

10/19/2005 12:54:05 PM

Twins dont have to look the same...

Im with rwoody on this one

10/19/2005 1:02:46 PM

I don't think it's Matt...

Would he really cut his own father or Christian?

It could be Kimber...but it's unlikely

They want us to think it's Costa...it's very likey it is Costa, but I think the writers are better than that and will hit us with a curve ball.

I don't want to wait until the end of the season to find out who it is.

10/19/2005 1:10:40 PM

It could be matt because hes a crazy, tranny banging weirdo... but i doubt its him

10/19/2005 1:15:47 PM

I recorded it last night and just watched it. I feel kinda bad but i was pretty happy that it was Kit at the end that got carved up. Seeing Christians mom was kinda weird, i really feel bad for him sometimes. Like about how his mom said she wishes she never had him, and the fact that his foster parents were really fucked up in the head.
I definitely think it could be Costa (still) or Matt.

And was it just me or was the girl in the next episode with julia, christians old girlfriend (the one thats got aids now?) Gina? I think that's her name, but i wasn't sure if that was her or not. Did anyone else notice that?

10/19/2005 3:02:24 PM

Yeah, that was Gina. No clue how Julia gets into business with that sloot.

10/19/2005 3:03:37 PM

Isn't she about to die anyway? She was pretty sick in last season when she started getting treatment. I wonder what kind of business they are doing anyway.

And ya know, Sean really gets on my nerves sometimes.

10/19/2005 3:10:50 PM

Quote :

"not necessarily. it depends how much of the dna strand is tested. siblings should have around 50% of the same dna but could easily share much more or much less. i am not an expert on forensic dna testing but i believe false positives could be possible for a large amount of shared dna."

obviously i was talking about monozygotic twins

and yea, you dont know much about DNA testing. you cant accidently test the similar half. you dont get false positives for family relation.

10/19/2005 3:12:46 PM

its sean... maybe he never really got over his little nervous breakdown. plus his life has been going to shit lately. maybe a side of him wants to hurt the beautiful people he operates on while his other feels the need to help them afterwards from guilt. split personality?

10/19/2005 5:33:37 PM

that would NEVER happen

10/19/2005 5:34:07 PM

Not sure if this has been said already but, I am almost sure it is the anesthesiologist now. Last season Liz and Christian tried to have a child together be artificial insemination, hence theres the source of the "planted" sperm in the condom. I think she used a dildo with the semen filled condom to rape the girl and then left it there to frame him. What I cannot make fit, is why would she then slice up the detective and have Christian released?

10/19/2005 5:36:22 PM

thats another rediculous thoery

it aint liz

10/19/2005 5:48:54 PM

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" Last season Liz and Christian tried to have a child together be artificial insemination, hence theres the source of the "planted" sperm in the condom."

...

10/19/2005 7:14:54 PM

^^ Yeah i am sure, you know everything.

If you know anything about artificial insemination, you would know that they always store more semen than is used on one attempt.

I will agree the body type does not fit. I was told that the actors themselves do not know who will be revealed as the carver, so I am not counting on the body type right now.
I think the other theories are just way to simple for this show.

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 7:17 PM. Reason : AI]

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 7:29 PM. Reason : ]

10/19/2005 7:16:10 PM

the Liz theory is totally bogus. the carver standing over the girl in the kitchen before he sliced her did not have the same body type as Liz...i dont see how in the world you could think that...



...but then again, stranger things have happened

10/19/2005 7:24:40 PM

matt-too out of control ..not to mention he was really hung up on ava at the end of last season, why would he go around slicin people up
costa-he's still a possibility but why the hell why would he be flyin in from atlanta every week to slice up people
ava-just doesnt make sense
christian-can't be two places at once
bobollit-too cracked out and messed up at the end of last season to pull off anything like this
liz-doesnt have the right body type
julia-she's crazy but not under control.. so no
kimber-nothing to eliminate her but i highly doubt it
the detective- she's crazy but in control..still a possibility but i don't like her as one

sean is the best possiblity ..but they would never make it him unless he already had intentions of leaving the show

So it's more than likely somebody that hasn't been introduced yet ....my guess is whoever it is will end up being a plastic surgeon

10/19/2005 8:50:39 PM

but we saw Sean getting attacked

10/19/2005 9:47:12 PM

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"costa-he's still a possibility but why the hell why would he be flyin in from atlanta every week to slice up people"

I thought Costa formally was joining the practice rather than just "flying in on the weekends"?

of did I miss something?

Quote :

"but we saw Sean getting attacked"

yes. Not only do I REALLY doubt it is Sean, it would be stupid if it was. If he goes down for being the carver then that eliminates a main character in the show. I can completely see it being a regular or supporting cast member but not Sean.

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 9:51 PM. Reason : +]

10/19/2005 9:48:02 PM

when the carver first came around Costa was practicing in Atlanta

for like the first 3 carver attacks, Costa was still supposedly practicing in Atlanta

because they didn't introduce him until after a few carver attacks

10/19/2005 9:49:58 PM

its either costa or the detective.


why? the access. who would know where that bitch was even after she moved to protect herself? only someone close to the detective, or close to the people close to the detective.

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 10:48 PM. Reason : -]

10/19/2005 10:46:44 PM

How do you know she moved? They never showed that.


I dont know who it is but damn this show is good.

10/19/2005 10:55:44 PM

I just thought of something:

There was a condom with his DNA at the scene which would indicate that someone would have planted it.

BUT

Christian got the Carver to slice up the next victim by announcing to the media that he was arrested.

SO

Doesn't it seem likely (or obvious) that the condom was planted by someone other than the carver?

Unless of course soemthing else is going on here.

10/20/2005 8:52:18 AM

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"How do you know she moved? "

common sense

Quote :

"Doesn't it seem likely (or obvious) that the condom was planted by someone other than the carver? "

unless she was done fucking with christian...and then cut herself for shits and giggles

[Edited on October 20, 2005 at 9:00 AM. Reason : -]

10/20/2005 8:54:32 AM

What about the fat/ugly nurse that works for sean and christian?

10/20/2005 8:59:05 AM