Quote :

"Did not the Bush Administration just deliberately deceive the public in order to trick us into war against Iraq?"

Quote :

"absolutely not....if you werent so deceived by alex jones you would see that...but you buy into it man...you completely take the bait....its just too bad"

So only Alex Jones and other "conspiracy theory lunatics" believe that the Bush Administration tricked us into war with Iraq?

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/13/MNGUQ50CK21.DTL

Quote :

"54% in poll say Bush fudged or lied on Iraq Richard Morin, Dana Milbank, Washington Post Friday, February 13, 2004 Washington -- A majority of Americans believe President Bush either lied or deliberately exaggerated evidence that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction to justify war, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll."

And that was over 2 years ago. I bet somewhere around 65-75% of the country now believes the Bush Administration deliberatly lied to trick us into war with Iraq. But these people are all just "crackpots", right?

4/3/2006 4:33:12 PM

Quote :

"So only Alex Jones and other "conspiracy theory lunatics" believe that the Bush Administration tricked us into war with Iraq?"

yeah thats exactly what i said...


but i would think the numbers have decreased alot??...i would bet that somewhere around 97.645% of americans think bush told the complete truth

...see how easy this is....??


yeah by the way...polls dont mean ANYTHING....you can make them say whatever you want them to say...soo....thats not relevant

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 4:39 PM. Reason : asdf]

4/3/2006 4:35:52 PM

Quote :

"A total of 1,003 randomly selected adults were interviewed Tuesday and Wednesday. The margin of sampling error for the overall results is plus or minus 3 percentage points."

i would like to know how randomly they were chosen. please find out more details about that.

4/3/2006 4:36:19 PM

So now the main proponents of the government's bogus "official" 9/11 conspiracy theory are those arguing that the Bush Administration did not intentionally mislead the public on Iraq's WMD threat in order to trick the public into supporting war with Iraq?

I guess this means that the people still supporting the official 9/11 story are primarily brainwashed hardcore republicans and Bush supporters, who will apparantly support Bush no matter what he does. And FYI, those still supporting the Bush administration are only around 25-30% of the population.

4/3/2006 4:57:40 PM

4/3/2006 5:02:04 PM

Possible explanation for what really happened on 9-11-01:

Quote :

"1. Four commercial passenger jets (American Airlines Flights 11 and 77 and United Airlines Flights 93 and 175) take off and shortly after the pilots are ordered to land at a designated airport with a military presence. 2. Two previously-prepared planes (one a Boeing 767, painted up to look like a United Airlines jet and loaded with extra jet fuel) take off and are flown by remote control to intercept the flight paths of AA 11 and UA 175 so as to deceive the air traffic controllers. 3. These (substituted) jets then fly toward Manhattan; the first crashes into the North Tower and (eighteen minutes later) the second crashes into the South Tower. 4. A fighter jet (under remote control), or a cruise missile, crashes into the Pentagon. 5. Back at the airport the (innocent) passengers from three of the Boeings are transferred to the fourth (UA 93). 6. This plane takes off, flies toward Washington, and is shot down by a U.S. Air Force jet over Pennsylvania, eliminating the innocent witnesses to the diversion of the passenger planes. 7. Under cover of darkness later that evening the other three Boeings are flown by remote control out over the Atlantic, are scuttled and end up in pieces at the bottom of the ocean. http://www.serendipity.li/wot/operation_pearl.htm"

4/3/2006 5:10:16 PM

Information showing that high-level officials within the U.S. (and British) Governments had prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks:

BOTH GEORGE W. BUSH AND TONY BLAIR SAY THEY SAW THE FIRST PLANE THAT HIT THE WTC

Video of George W. Bush saying he saw the first plane that hit the WTC
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/bushsawfirstplane1.ram

30 second audio clip: http://users.adelphia.net/~earthwatch/GW-sayingHeSawPlaneHit1stWTCtowerOnTVon911.mp3

Transcript of Bush's comment:

Quote :

""Thank you, Jordan (ph). Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident." But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack.""

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0112/04/se.04.html (see about 4/5 down the page)


British PM Tony Blair claims to have seen the first plane that hit the WTC as well:

Quote :

""I remember it very, very clearly. I was about to give the speech to the Trades Union Congress in Brighton, and so I was preparing my speech and the television was on in the background. You saw the first plane crash, and then people came in and started to brief me on it, and then of course it became clear a short time afterwards that this was not simply a terrible accident but was almost certainly a terrorist incident, and then everything changed.""

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/world/02/september_11/where_were_you_when/html/11.stm


Video of the first plane crashing into the WTC was not available to the public until after September 11th, 2001. I think it is highly unlikely that both Bush and Blair are making a mistake here. They both really did see the first plane hit the WTC. The only logical conclusion is that both Bush and Blair were provided something similar to a closed circuit live video feed to the first plane hitting the WTC. They were observing the progress of the attacks. Only problem was, it was hard for them to prevent themselves from talking about this later, and they slipped up and spilled the truth.


[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 8:17 AM. Reason : `````]

4/4/2006 8:08:05 AM

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CNN Reported "No Evidence That Plane Hit Pentagon"

Here is a video clip from CNN coverage on the morning of 9/11. CNN reporter Jamie McIntyre says he inspected the Pentagon site and it is obvious no plane crashed there.

Short CNN Video Clip here: http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/

Quote :

"CNN's JAMIE MCINTYRE: "From my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only site, is the actual side of the building that's crashed in. And as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse. Even though if you look at the pictures of the Pentagon you see that the floors have all collapsed, that didn't happenm immediately. It wasn't until almost about 45 minutes later that the structure was weakened enough that all of the floors collapsed.""

4/4/2006 8:48:41 AM

FOREIGN GOVERNMENT FOREKNOWLEDGE AND WARNINGS OF ATTACKS

Russian Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

"Expert: Russia Knew in Advance, Encouraged Citizens to Cash Out Dollars"
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/16/103951.shtml

Quote :

"Dr. Alexandr Nemets Monday, Sept. 17, 2001 Russian press accounts and other activities by the Russian government this summer indicate that the Russian government knew in advance that something would happen to America, including a "financial attack" against the U.S. During the past three months, Russian media and officials have encouraged citizens to cash out U.S. dollars pending an economic collapse there after an "attack.""

Israeli/Mossad Foreknowledge of Attacks and Warnings

Israeli Instant Message Company Odigo says workers were warned of attack
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contrassID=/has%5C

Jersusalem Post: "Mossad warned CIA of attacks - report"
Jersusalem Post article cached here: http://prisonplanet.com/mossad_warned_cia_of_attacks.html

Quote :

"LONDON (September 17) - Mossad officials traveled to Washington last month to warn the CIA and the FBI that a cell of up to 200 terrorists was planning a major operation, according to a report in the Sunday Telegraph here yesterday."

NOTE: The Mossad had advance knowledge of the attacks because they were intimately involved in carrying out the attacks on an operational level. For example, 5 Mossad Agents were arrrested after seen filming the attack on the WTC and celebrating afterwards. Especially note in the article above how the Mossad warned of "200 terrorists" in the United States. In the time just before and after the 9/11 attacks, around 200 Israeli spies were detained by U.S. authorities, some in connection with the attacks. But they were released shortly thereafter, and the entire story was suppressed.


Five suspects detained after caught filming the WTC attack
http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2001/09/13/story23625.asp

The five suspects are Israelis and were seen celebrating the attack; after questioned by police, the suspects immediately try to place the blame on muslims
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm

The Forward, a Jewish newspaper, admits that these 5 Israelis were Israelli intelligence and were conducting a Mossad mission, but whitewashes it by suggesting they were "tracking the muslims who carried out the attack."
http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.03.15/news2.html


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/03/07/wspy07.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/03/07/ixworld.html

Quote :

"US arrests 200 young Israelis in spying investigation By Ben Fenton in Washington (Filed: 07/03/2002) UP to 200 young Israelis, some of them former members of military intelligence units, have been arrested in America in the past year, a leaked government report disclosed yesterday. Some had used cover stories to gain access to sensitive government buildings and the homes of American officials. The report said the actions of some of the Israelis, most of whom had outstayed tourist visas, "may well be an organised intelligence-gathering activity"."

So, Mossad warns of "200 terrorists" inside the U.S., and then 200 Israeli spies are detained around 911, some of which clearly had foreknowledge of the attacks and may very well have been involved in the attacks? Coincidence?


prisonplanet.com's Israeli foreknowledge and warnings archive
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html#israeli


[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 9:54 AM. Reason : `````]

4/4/2006 9:46:08 AM

Salisburyboy, much props to you. Keep it comin'!

The evasive smokescreen is so evident by their one liners and irrelevant posts. Not one of them has debated or stepped up to the challenge.

4/4/2006 8:45:39 PM

theres debate in the other thread, this is just for me to spam

4/4/2006 8:48:21 PM

ya know....if you keep the fakeries and forgeries coming...you might convince someone....

the more the better...

4/4/2006 8:49:19 PM

FOREIGN GOVERNMENT FOREKNOWLEDGE AND WARNINGS OF ATTACKS

Russian Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

"Expert: Russia Knew in Advance, Encouraged Citizens to Cash Out Dollars"
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/16/103951.shtml

Quote :

"Dr. Alexandr Nemets Monday, Sept. 17, 2001 Russian press accounts and other activities by the Russian government this summer indicate that the Russian government knew in advance that something would happen to America, including a "financial attack" against the U.S. During the past three months, Russian media and officials have encouraged citizens to cash out U.S. dollars pending an economic collapse there after an "attack.""

Israeli/Mossad Foreknowledge of Attacks and Warnings

Israeli Instant Message Company Odigo says workers were warned of attack
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contrassID=/has%5C

Jersusalem Post: "Mossad warned CIA of attacks - report"
Jersusalem Post article cached here: http://prisonplanet.com/mossad_warned_cia_of_attacks.html

Quote :

"LONDON (September 17) - Mossad officials traveled to Washington last month to warn the CIA and the FBI that a cell of up to 200 terrorists was planning a major operation, according to a report in the Sunday Telegraph here yesterday."

NOTE: The Mossad had advance knowledge of the attacks because they were intimately involved in carrying out the attacks on an operational level. For example, 5 Mossad Agents were arrrested after seen filming the attack on the WTC and celebrating afterwards. Especially note in the article above how the Mossad warned of "200 terrorists" in the United States. In the time just before and after the 9/11 attacks, around 200 Israeli spies were detained by U.S. authorities, some in connection with the attacks. But they were released shortly thereafter, and the entire story was suppressed.


Five suspects detained after caught filming the WTC attack
http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2001/09/13/story23625.asp

The five suspects are Israelis and were seen celebrating the attack; after questioned by police, the suspects immediately try to place the blame on muslims
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm

The Forward, a Jewish newspaper, admits that these 5 Israelis were Israelli intelligence and were conducting a Mossad mission, but whitewashes it by suggesting they were "tracking the muslims who carried out the attack."
http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.03.15/news2.html


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/03/07/wspy07.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/03/07/ixworld.html

Quote :

"US arrests 200 young Israelis in spying investigation By Ben Fenton in Washington (Filed: 07/03/2002) UP to 200 young Israelis, some of them former members of military intelligence units, have been arrested in America in the past year, a leaked government report disclosed yesterday. Some had used cover stories to gain access to sensitive government buildings and the homes of American officials. The report said the actions of some of the Israelis, most of whom had outstayed tourist visas, "may well be an organised intelligence-gathering activity"."

So, Mossad warns of "200 terrorists" inside the U.S., and then 200 Israeli spies are detained around 911, some of which clearly had foreknowledge of the attacks and may very well have been involved in the attacks? Coincidence?


prisonplanet.com's Israeli foreknowledge and warnings archive
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html#israeli

4/4/2006 8:54:21 PM

SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT

STUDENT GOVERNMENT IS SOMETHING FOR THE LOUNGE

BUT

RACISM AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE FOR THE SOAP BOX


OH I SEE
WE'RE IN TOPSY TURVY WORLD HERE

4/5/2006 12:10:21 AM

The biggest problems with the official story relate to the towers collapsing and WTC7. I don't see how anyone can deny what the owner of the buildings said in the PBS documentary, it's right there for all to hear.

Also, the twin towers would not have collapsed as they did as a result of being hit by planes on high floors. The physics just don't add up. There couldn't have been enough heat created by the fuel in 1 plane to sustain a burn and collapse such buildings from the top down.

4/5/2006 1:26:28 AM

I'm sure plenty of experts will agree with you

right?

4/5/2006 1:28:45 AM

the twin towers were def. a plane
the government plane had extra fuel and possibly explosives, i already posted it a few links about it



Here is a photograph of the plane that suposedly crashed into the second tower hit:

Quote :

"N612UA Msn 21873 ln 41 On September 11, 2001, this aircraft was hijacked by terrorist swine and crashed in the south tower of New York's World Trade Center. RIP. http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N612UA&distinct_entry=true"

Now, compare that picture with the picture of the plane hitting the tower:

Quote :

"This is no Boeing 767-200 because: 1. white light shines out of both alleged “jet engines”, 2. a “pod” protrudes from the underbelly of the “plane”, 3. the tail tip and underbelly’s streak are off-color. 1. The “real” hijacked United Airways flight 175 (WTC south tower) was a Boeing 767-200 with registration number N612UA. Its jet engines were two Pratt & Whitney JT9D turbofans. Turbofans never emit any light. Their rear view is always dark. It is technically impossible for them to play “street lamp” like in the photo. 2. The “pod” does not belong there. 3. The hijacked Boeing 767-200 with registration number N612UA was painted black on the underbelly....The underbelly is plain black, whereas the belly of the flying object at WTC2 shows up gray and has a bright streak running down the middle. http://www.gallerize.com/new/Gallerize.News.03.10.17.htm"

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 1:30 AM. Reason : .]

4/5/2006 1:29:34 AM

ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: HOLLYWOOD ELITE THROWING IT IN OUR FACE


"The Lone Gunmen": Pilot episode of X-Files spin off from March 2001

"The Lone Gunmen" aired just a few months before 9/11. The show was about terrorists hijacking an airliner and threatening to crash it into the World Trade Center. Except, in this plot, the terrorists were a cabal within the U.S. government itself. In the episode, the commercial airliner was hijacked using high-tech electronic means. But it's all a "huge coincidence" right?

Short video clip of scene from the episode: http://prisonplanet.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_lonegumen.html

Partial transcript of above video clip from show, where 2 government agents are talking:

Quote :

"Character 1: "We know it's a war game scenario. That it has to do with airline counter-terrorism. Why is it important enough to kill for?" Character 2: "Because it's no longer a game." Character 1: "If some terrorist group wants to act out this scenario, why target you for assassination?" Character 2: "It depends on who your terrorists are." Character 1: "The men who conceived of it in the first place. You're saying our government is planning to commit a terrorist act against a domestic airline?" Character 2: "There you go. Blaming the entire government as usual. It's a faction...a small faction." Character 1: "For what possible gain?" Character 2:"The Cold War's over, John. But with no clear enemy to stockpile against, the arms market's flat. But bring down a fully loaded 727 into the middle of New York City and you'll find a dozen tin-pot dictators all over the world just clamoring to take responsibility, and begging to be smart-bombed." Character 1: "I can't believe this. This is about increasing arms sales?""

Later scenes in the episode show where the hijacked plane is planned to crash specifically into the World Trade Center.

Quote :

"The X-Files spinoff shows a government plan to remote-control a plane to crash into The World Trade Center and trigger war just like Pentagon's Operation Northwoods. The only difference is that the airliner crew got help to unlock their flight controls and save all lives - Hollywood always lies about reality. The show premiered in March 2001, in the Sunday Timeslot of The X-Files to gain some extra exposure for its first four episodes. It finally settled into its Friday 9:00 PM slot on FOX. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is either someone somewhere within the establishment trying to desperately get out a warning or it is more likely an evil Government operation. The show has been used to subconsciously manipulate people to believe that if these events did actually happen, it would be like a film, not a part of reality, therefore we should not worry too much. Anyone who would dare to say that the Government were responsible for such terrorist attacks would immediately be branded a "lunitic conspiracy theorist, like those guys from the X-Files." This is one of the sickest depraved operations that could possibley be devised, it is conditioning on a mass scale."

Killtown's page on "The Lone Gunmen" Episode: Includes many links
http://killtown.911review.org/lonegunmen.html


[Edited on April 6, 2006 at 11:11 AM. Reason : ```]

4/6/2006 11:08:00 AM

man..that is just sad....you are getting more and more desperate...and its obviuos

4/6/2006 11:10:52 AM

klebold and harris, the guys from columbine, had the same idea to fly planes into skyscrapers

THEY SURELY WERE IN ON IT

TRENCH COAT MAFIA IS LIKE THE JAYCEES OF THE LOLMINATI

4/6/2006 11:14:07 AM

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: HOLLYWOOD THROWING IT IN OUR FACE


1996 action film "The Long Kiss Goodnight"
audio here: http://www.propagandamatrix.com/Pages/140404_longkissgoodnight.html

Quote :

"In a similar vain to the episode of the Lone Gunmen aired on Fox in March 2001, the action film The Long Kiss Goodnight, provides yet more revelations of the method of government complicity in attacks on the World Trade Center. The clip featured on this page not only hints at government complicity in terror attacks in order increase budget spending and ratchet up control, but it also NAMES the World Trade Center as a target."

Partial transcript of above audio clip from movie:

Quote :

"Samuel Jackson character: "...a fundraiser?" Other character: "1993. World Trade Center bombing. Remember? During the trial, one of the bombers claimed the CIA had advance knowledge...the terrorist VISA was CIA. It's not unthinkable they paved the way for the bombing in order to justify a budget increase." Samuel Jackson character: "You're telling me you're going to fake some terrorist thing just to scare some money out of Congress?" Other character: "Well unfortunaely, Mr. Hannesy, I have no idea how to fake killing 4,000 people. So we're just going to have to do it for real. Blame it on the muslims naturally. Then I get my funding.""

Quote :

"Referring to the 1993 bombing of the Trade Center, Samuel L Jackson's character is told that the CIA were complicit in the bombing. This is almost accurate, it was in fact the FBI that were COMPLICIT in that bombing. The character is then told in explicit detail by the shadowy government official that 4000 people will be killed in a fake terrorist event on American soil in order to "get some money out of congress". Of course this event will be "blamed on the Muslims, naturally". Not only is the 4000 eerily accurate, this clip virtually mirrors the Lone Gunmen episode where the shadowy government official tells the "hero" that a large scale fake terror attack will be carried out to create mass fear and total government control. In the Lone Gunman episode, the detail is extremely accurate, as the "attack" is to be a Jet flown into the World Trade Center's North Tower."

[Edited on April 6, 2006 at 11:18 AM. Reason : ``]

4/6/2006 11:15:57 AM

:roll: :roll:

4/6/2006 11:26:45 AM

Quote :

" "

You're living in DENIAL.

Quote :

"Some people will continue to deny the truth to their deathbeds even if it is right in front of their face. But even if you deny it now, more than likely you will have to acknowledge it later because the evidence is overwhelming. And if you continue to deny the obvious, you do not matter. The future is for those who have the courage to acknowledge and face the truth. The choice is yours."

4/6/2006 11:31:04 AM

i swear...that quote you love so much is talking right to you man....

stop living in denial...come back from fantasy land....you are getting more and more desperate and entertaining....its sad

4/6/2006 11:34:20 AM

YES


NOW GO AHEAD AND HIT CTRL C AND CTRL V ONE MORE TIME

4/6/2006 11:34:21 AM

b]MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: HOLLYWOOD THROWING IT IN OUR FACE[/b]


1996 action film "The Long Kiss Goodnight"
audio here: http://www.propagandamatrix.com/Pages/140404_longkissgoodnight.html

Quote :

"In a similar vain to the episode of the Lone Gunmen aired on Fox in March 2001, the action film The Long Kiss Goodnight, provides yet more revelations of the method of government complicity in attacks on the World Trade Center. The clip featured on this page not only hints at government complicity in terror attacks in order increase budget spending and ratchet up control, but it also NAMES the World Trade Center as a target."

Partial transcript of above audio clip from movie:

Quote :

"Samuel Jackson character: "...a fundraiser?" Other character: "1993. World Trade Center bombing. Remember? During the trial, one of the bombers claimed the CIA had advance knowledge...the terrorist VISA was CIA. It's not unthinkable they paved the way for the bombing in order to justify a budget increase." Samuel Jackson character: "You're telling me you're going to fake some terrorist thing just to scare some money out of Congress?" Other character: "Well unfortunaely, Mr. Hannesy, I have no idea how to fake killing 4,000 people. So we're just going to have to do it for real. Blame it on the muslims naturally. Then I get my funding.""

Quote :

"Referring to the 1993 bombing of the Trade Center, Samuel L Jackson's character is told that the CIA were complicit in the bombing. This is almost accurate, it was in fact the FBI that were COMPLICIT in that bombing. The character is then told in explicit detail by the shadowy government official that 4000 people will be killed in a fake terrorist event on American soil in order to "get some money out of congress". Of course this event will be "blamed on the Muslims, naturally". Not only is the 4000 eerily accurate, this clip virtually mirrors the Lone Gunmen episode where the shadowy government official tells the "hero" that a large scale fake terror attack will be carried out to create mass fear and total government control. In the Lone Gunman episode, the detail is extremely accurate, as the "attack" is to be a Jet flown into the World Trade Center's North Tower."

4/6/2006 12:14:51 PM

hahahahahaahahh

4/6/2006 1:40:50 PM

can we delete this thread please...its a waste of bandwidth

4/6/2006 2:59:50 PM

"its not hurting anybody"

4/6/2006 3:04:05 PM

Quote :

"can we delete this thread please"

haha

So, all the efforts of those trying to silence me by campaigning for my suspension haven't worked.

And now, in order to try to silence me, you want to delete my threads?

You people really are desperate to shut me up aren't you? You're scared of this information and evidence, and you're doing all you can to try to suppress it.

Quote :

"its a waste of bandwidth"

chit chat is a waste of bandwidth...this thread covers very serious and important issues


[Edited on April 6, 2006 at 3:10 PM. Reason : ``]

4/6/2006 3:08:51 PM

we're not scared of anything

and IF YOU HAVE THIS FUCKING "EVIDENCE" WHY ARE FUCKING MESSAGE BOARDS THE ONLY PEOPLE YOU TAKE IT TO

4/6/2006 3:10:40 PM

Quote :

"we're not scared of anything"

YES, you are. That's why you and a few others here have been whining and complaining like the most pathetic little bitches ever to try to get me silenced.

And then when I'm restricted to making one thread a week, you resort to spamming my threads in order to try to distract from the evidence and information I'm presenting.

Quote :

"WHY ARE FUCKING MESSAGE BOARDS THE ONLY PEOPLE YOU TAKE IT TO"

People on message boards are NOT the only people I take this information to. I discuss this with family, friends, and co-workers on a face-to-face basis.

What do you think you are? Omniscient?


[Edited on April 6, 2006 at 3:16 PM. Reason : ```]

4/6/2006 3:13:43 PM

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: HOLLYWOOD THROWING IT IN OUR FACE


1996 action film "The Long Kiss Goodnight"
audio here: http://www.propagandamatrix.com/Pages/140404_longkissgoodnight.html

Quote :

"In a similar vain to the episode of the Lone Gunmen aired on Fox in March 2001, the action film The Long Kiss Goodnight, provides yet more revelations of the method of government complicity in attacks on the World Trade Center. The clip featured on this page not only hints at government complicity in terror attacks in order increase budget spending and ratchet up control, but it also NAMES the World Trade Center as a target."

Partial transcript of above audio clip from movie:

Quote :

"Samuel Jackson character: "...a fundraiser?" Other character: "1993. World Trade Center bombing. Remember? During the trial, one of the bombers claimed the CIA had advance knowledge...the terrorist VISA was CIA. It's not unthinkable they paved the way for the bombing in order to justify a budget increase." Samuel Jackson character: "You're telling me you're going to fake some terrorist thing just to scare some money out of Congress?" Other character: "Well unfortunaely, Mr. Hannesy, I have no idea how to fake killing 4,000 people. So we're just going to have to do it for real. Blame it on the muslims naturally. Then I get my funding.""

Quote :

"Referring to the 1993 bombing of the Trade Center, Samuel L Jackson's character is told that the CIA were complicit in the bombing. This is almost accurate, it was in fact the FBI that were COMPLICIT in that bombing. The character is then told in explicit detail by the shadowy government official that 4000 people will be killed in a fake terrorist event on American soil in order to "get some money out of congress". Of course this event will be "blamed on the Muslims, naturally". Not only is the 4000 eerily accurate, this clip virtually mirrors the Lone Gunmen episode where the shadowy government official tells the "hero" that a large scale fake terror attack will be carried out to create mass fear and total government control. In the Lone Gunman episode, the detail is extremely accurate, as the "attack" is to be a Jet flown into the World Trade Center's North Tower."

4/6/2006 3:17:26 PM

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: LITERATURE THROWING IT IN OUR FACE

1994 Tom Clancy novel Debt of Honor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_of_Honor

Quote :

"America's reaction is swift and deadly, and at the end of the novel the status quo ante is restored. In a parallel to the real-life September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the book ends with an embittered Japanese airline pilot crashing his Boeing 747 into the U.S. Capitol building during a joint session of Congress with the President attending. He does this to avenge the deaths of his brother and son during the war. This paves the way for Ryan, who has just been appointed Vice President, to become President in the next book, Executive Orders."

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: HISTORY THROWING IT IN OUR FACE

1945 NYC Plane Crash
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_State_Building

Quote :

"At 9:49 a.m. on Saturday July 28, 1945, a B-25 Mitchell bomber accidentally crashed into the north side between the 79th and 80th floors, where the offices of the National Catholic Welfare Council were located. The fire was extinguished in 40 minutes. 14 people were killed in the accident. During the accident, elevator operator Betty Lou Oliver survived a plunge of 75 stories inside an elevator, and currently holds the Guinness World Record for the longest elevator fall recorded."

WWII KAMIKAZE ATTACKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze

Quote :

"Kamikaze is a word of Japanese origin, which, in the English language, usually refers to suicide attacks carried out by Japanese aircrews against Allied shipping towards the end of the Pacific campaign of World War II."

WWII SELBSTOPFER ATTACKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selbstopfer

Quote :

"Selbstopfer (selbst+opfer, German for self-sacrifice or self-offering) was a late-World War II German project to develop a "smart weapon" for attacking high-value targets such as bridges and command centers. First proposed by Otto Skorzeny, leader of the German commandos, and Hanna Reitsch, the famous test pilot, they suggested using converted V1 Flying Bombs with a tiny cockpit on top, with a pilot."

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR DURING THE CRUSADES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attack

Quote :

"During the Crusades, the Knights Templar destroyed one of their own ships, killing 140 Christians in order to kill ten times as many Muslims."

SAMSON DURING BIBLICAL TIMES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson

Quote :

""Then Samson prayed to the LORD, 'O Sovereign LORD, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes' (Judges 16:28)." "Samson said, 'Let me die with the Philistines!' (Judges 16:30) Down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more as he died than while he lived." (Judges 16:30)."

Clearly Tom Clancy, the WWII Army Air Force, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, the Knights Templar, and the Bible were all involved. They used literature and human history to subconsciously manipulate people to believe that if these events did actually happen, it would be a like a novel or a historical event, not a part of reality, therefore we should not worry too much. Anyone who would dare to say that Tom Clancy, the WWII Army Air Force, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, the Knights Templar, and the Bible were responsible for such terrorist attacks would immediately be branded a "lunitic conspiracy theorist." This is one of the sickest depraved operations that could possibley be devised, it is conditioning on a mass scale."

4/6/2006 4:07:50 PM

i shake in my boots everytime i see you post

4/6/2006 4:19:11 PM

100% PROVEN FACT

4/6/2006 4:20:50 PM

Quote :

"So, all the efforts of those trying to silence me by campaigning for my suspension haven't worked. And now, in order to try to silence me, you want to delete my threads? You people really are desperate to shut me up aren't you? You're scared of this information and evidence, and you're doing all you can to try to suppress it."

i am so sick of this. i cant stand the fact that you are a master of spreading lies. you reference known forgers like alex jones constantly. you make up information. you have, as a matter of fact, mastered the art of misinformation. i refuse to let you (without some resistence) continue to spread lies on this messege board for the purpose for furthering your own causes. it sickens me.

and the thing is, your lies and deceipt are getting more and more desperate. you know that no one buys your misinformation tactics so you are jsut trying to be more and more sensationalistic and absurd in hopes that someone may buy into your lies. keep it up though. the more you do this, the more people are made aware of your cause, the more people see through you.

4/6/2006 4:31:39 PM

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: LITERATURE THROWING IT IN OUR FACE

1994 Tom Clancy novel Debt of Honor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_of_Honor

Quote :

"America's reaction is swift and deadly, and at the end of the novel the status quo ante is restored. In a parallel to the real-life September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the book ends with an embittered Japanese airline pilot crashing his Boeing 747 into the U.S. Capitol building during a joint session of Congress with the President attending. He does this to avenge the deaths of his brother and son during the war. This paves the way for Ryan, who has just been appointed Vice President, to become President in the next book, Executive Orders."

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: HISTORY THROWING IT IN OUR FACE

1945 NYC Plane Crash
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_State_Building

Quote :

"At 9:49 a.m. on Saturday July 28, 1945, a B-25 Mitchell bomber accidentally crashed into the north side between the 79th and 80th floors, where the offices of the National Catholic Welfare Council were located. The fire was extinguished in 40 minutes. 14 people were killed in the accident. During the accident, elevator operator Betty Lou Oliver survived a plunge of 75 stories inside an elevator, and currently holds the Guinness World Record for the longest elevator fall recorded."

WWII KAMIKAZE ATTACKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze

Quote :

"Kamikaze is a word of Japanese origin, which, in the English language, usually refers to suicide attacks carried out by Japanese aircrews against Allied shipping towards the end of the Pacific campaign of World War II."

WWII SELBSTOPFER ATTACKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selbstopfer

Quote :

"Selbstopfer (selbst+opfer, German for self-sacrifice or self-offering) was a late-World War II German project to develop a "smart weapon" for attacking high-value targets such as bridges and command centers. First proposed by Otto Skorzeny, leader of the German commandos, and Hanna Reitsch, the famous test pilot, they suggested using converted V1 Flying Bombs with a tiny cockpit on top, with a pilot."

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR DURING THE CRUSADES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attack

Quote :

"During the Crusades, the Knights Templar destroyed one of their own ships, killing 140 Christians in order to kill ten times as many Muslims."

SAMSON DURING BIBLICAL TIMES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson

Quote :

""Then Samson prayed to the LORD, 'O Sovereign LORD, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes' (Judges 16:28)." "Samson said, 'Let me die with the Philistines!' (Judges 16:30) Down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more as he died than while he lived." (Judges 16:30)."

Clearly Tom Clancy, the WWII Army Air Force, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, the Knights Templar, and the Bible were all involved. They used literature and human history to subconsciously manipulate people to believe that if these events did actually happen, it would be a like a novel or a historical event, not a part of reality, therefore we should not worry too much. Anyone who would dare to say that Tom Clancy, the WWII Army Air Force, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, the Knights Templar, and the Bible were responsible for such terrorist attacks would immediately be branded a "lunitic conspiracy theorist." This is one of the sickest depraved operations that could possibley be devised, it is conditioning on a mass scale."

4/6/2006 5:02:38 PM

YAY RACISM AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES!!!

4/6/2006 5:17:36 PM

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF 9/11 PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: STEVE JACKSON'S 1995 CARD GAME "ILLUMINATI: NEW WORLD ORDER”

Card game inventor Steve Jackson came out with a card game entilted "Illuminati: New World Order" ("INWO" for short) around 1995. The game is remarkable in many respects in regard to prior knowledge of the elite agenda for the future (ie, the "new world order"). The game contains cards which foretold the events of the 9/11 attacks.

Information on INWO at official website of Steve Jackson's games:
http://www.sjgames.com/inwo/

Excellent Analysis of Steven Jackson's Card Game as it relates to the "new world order" agenda
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm

The following are two relevant cards from Jackson's game with commentary from cuttingedge.org:

Quote :

"How in the world did Steve Jackson know that the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center were going to be attacked? In fact, this card accurately depicted the World Trade Center attack in great detail. This card accurately depicts several facts of 9/11 -- on cards created all the way back in 1995! The picture accurately depicts: * That one tower was going to be struck first; this picture accurately depicts the moments between the first tower strike and the second. * The card accurately depicts that the place of impact is some distance from the top of the twin towers. The plane hit in this approximate area of the first tower. How in the world could Steve Jackson know this fact? * The caption at the top properly identifies the perpetrators of the attack as "terrorists""

Quote :

"The Pentagon is shown on fire; we know that a plane allegedly flew into a section of the Pentagon and nearly burned that section completely. However, the rest of the Pentagon was undamaged to the point where its functions continued unimpeded. ...Thus, these two cards literally depict both of the strikes of 9/11: against the Twin Towers first and then against the Pentagon. This kind of accuracy 6 years before the attacks is possible only if one knows the Illuminati Plan very thoroughly."

4/7/2006 8:36:51 AM

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: LITERATURE THROWING IT IN OUR FACE

1994 Tom Clancy novel Debt of Honor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_of_Honor

Quote :

"America's reaction is swift and deadly, and at the end of the novel the status quo ante is restored. In a parallel to the real-life September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the book ends with an embittered Japanese airline pilot crashing his Boeing 747 into the U.S. Capitol building during a joint session of Congress with the President attending. He does this to avenge the deaths of his brother and son during the war. This paves the way for Ryan, who has just been appointed Vice President, to become President in the next book, Executive Orders."

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: HISTORY THROWING IT IN OUR FACE

1945 NYC Plane Crash
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_State_Building

Quote :

"At 9:49 a.m. on Saturday July 28, 1945, a B-25 Mitchell bomber accidentally crashed into the north side between the 79th and 80th floors, where the offices of the National Catholic Welfare Council were located. The fire was extinguished in 40 minutes. 14 people were killed in the accident. During the accident, elevator operator Betty Lou Oliver survived a plunge of 75 stories inside an elevator, and currently holds the Guinness World Record for the longest elevator fall recorded."

WWII KAMIKAZE ATTACKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze

Quote :

"Kamikaze is a word of Japanese origin, which, in the English language, usually refers to suicide attacks carried out by Japanese aircrews against Allied shipping towards the end of the Pacific campaign of World War II."

WWII SELBSTOPFER ATTACKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selbstopfer

Quote :

"Selbstopfer (selbst+opfer, German for self-sacrifice or self-offering) was a late-World War II German project to develop a "smart weapon" for attacking high-value targets such as bridges and command centers. First proposed by Otto Skorzeny, leader of the German commandos, and Hanna Reitsch, the famous test pilot, they suggested using converted V1 Flying Bombs with a tiny cockpit on top, with a pilot."

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR DURING THE CRUSADES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attack

Quote :

"During the Crusades, the Knights Templar destroyed one of their own ships, killing 140 Christians in order to kill ten times as many Muslims."

SAMSON DURING BIBLICAL TIMES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson

Quote :

""Then Samson prayed to the LORD, 'O Sovereign LORD, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes' (Judges 16:28)." "Samson said, 'Let me die with the Philistines!' (Judges 16:30) Down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more as he died than while he lived." (Judges 16:30)."

Clearly Tom Clancy, the WWII Army Air Force, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, the Knights Templar, and the Bible were all involved. They used literature and human history to subconsciously manipulate people to believe that if these events did actually happen, it would be a like a novel or a historical event, not a part of reality, therefore we should not worry too much. Anyone who would dare to say that Tom Clancy, the WWII Army Air Force, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, the Knights Templar, and the Bible were responsible for such terrorist attacks would immediately be branded a "lunitic conspiracy theorist." This is one of the sickest depraved operations that could possibley be devised, it is conditioning on a mass scale."

4/7/2006 8:40:59 AM

STRANGE PHOTOGRAPHS SHOWING DEMONIC FACES IN WTC SMOKE AND COLLAPSE

I realize that I am going into a “strange” area here, but these photographs and the possible implications are quite interesting.

First off, take note of this card from Steve Jackson's INWO card game from around 1995:



Commentary from cuttingedge.org:

Quote :

"...notice that the smoke is shaped in the form of a demon's face. This is highly significant for several reasons: During the filming of the actual fire pouring forth from the Twin Towers, several cameras caught what seemed to be a demon face in the smoke. ...This attack on the Twin Towers also was a perfect Satanic Fire Sacrifice...Many pictures abounded on 9/11 that showed a demon's face in the fire high up on the Twin Towers. This was not a coincidental phenomenon. http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm"

Photographs of faces in smoke and dust from WTC on 9/11






Website with photos and analysis
http://www.christianmedia.us/devil-face.html

Quote :

"One of the photos is from the Associated Press and the other from CNN. Many claim they see a strange shape in the clouds of smoke in the photos. They say they can see eyes, a nose, a mouth and horns. CNN has not commented, but the AP says the photo was untouched and unaltered. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/face_smoke.htm"

4/7/2006 8:41:38 AM

it was the dem0nz!1!111oneone!!

4/7/2006 9:03:36 AM

all photos with demon faces were proven to be false

notice people...this is more evidence of the lengths that salis will go to to deceive

4/7/2006 9:08:35 AM

salisburyboy: an honest question i would like an honest answer to:
(note: i'm making it big so you notice it, not for any effect)

how many cards were in this INWO game?

4/7/2006 9:08:55 AM

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: LITERATURE THROWING IT IN OUR FACE

1994 Tom Clancy novel Debt of Honor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_of_Honor

Quote :

"America's reaction is swift and deadly, and at the end of the novel the status quo ante is restored. In a parallel to the real-life September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the book ends with an embittered Japanese airline pilot crashing his Boeing 747 into the U.S. Capitol building during a joint session of Congress with the President attending. He does this to avenge the deaths of his brother and son during the war. This paves the way for Ryan, who has just been appointed Vice President, to become President in the next book, Executive Orders."

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: HISTORY THROWING IT IN OUR FACE

1945 NYC Plane Crash
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_State_Building

Quote :

"At 9:49 a.m. on Saturday July 28, 1945, a B-25 Mitchell bomber accidentally crashed into the north side between the 79th and 80th floors, where the offices of the National Catholic Welfare Council were located. The fire was extinguished in 40 minutes. 14 people were killed in the accident. During the accident, elevator operator Betty Lou Oliver survived a plunge of 75 stories inside an elevator, and currently holds the Guinness World Record for the longest elevator fall recorded."

WWII KAMIKAZE ATTACKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze

Quote :

"Kamikaze is a word of Japanese origin, which, in the English language, usually refers to suicide attacks carried out by Japanese aircrews against Allied shipping towards the end of the Pacific campaign of World War II."

WWII SELBSTOPFER ATTACKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selbstopfer

Quote :

"Selbstopfer (selbst+opfer, German for self-sacrifice or self-offering) was a late-World War II German project to develop a "smart weapon" for attacking high-value targets such as bridges and command centers. First proposed by Otto Skorzeny, leader of the German commandos, and Hanna Reitsch, the famous test pilot, they suggested using converted V1 Flying Bombs with a tiny cockpit on top, with a pilot."

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR DURING THE CRUSADES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attack

Quote :

"During the Crusades, the Knights Templar destroyed one of their own ships, killing 140 Christians in order to kill ten times as many Muslims."

SAMSON DURING BIBLICAL TIMES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson

Quote :

""Then Samson prayed to the LORD, 'O Sovereign LORD, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes' (Judges 16:28)." "Samson said, 'Let me die with the Philistines!' (Judges 16:30) Down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more as he died than while he lived." (Judges 16:30)."

Clearly Tom Clancy, the WWII Army Air Force, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, the Knights Templar, and the Bible were all involved. They used literature and human history to subconsciously manipulate people to believe that if these events did actually happen, it would be a like a novel or a historical event, not a part of reality, therefore we should not worry too much. Anyone who would dare to say that Tom Clancy, the WWII Army Air Force, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, the Knights Templar, and the Bible were responsible for such terrorist attacks would immediately be branded a "lunitic conspiracy theorist." This is one of the sickest depraved operations that could possibley be devised, it is conditioning on a mass scale."

4/7/2006 9:11:12 AM

In relation to the apparant demonic apparitions in the WTC dust and smoke:

Quote :

"The hijackers were instruments of evil who died in vain. Behind them is a cult of evil which seeks to harm the innocent and thrives on human suffering. Theirs is the worst kind of cruelty, the cruelty that is fed, not weakened, by tears. Theirs is the worst kind of violence, pure malice, while daring to claim the authority of God. We cannot fully understand the designs and power of evil. It is enough to know that evil, like goodness, exists. And in the terrorists, evil has found a willing servant.” –George W. Bush, October 11, 2002, in remarks made at the Pentagon at the U.S. Department of Defense's service of remembrance"

Quote :

"all photos with demon faces were proven to be false"

I'm not aware of that. To my knowledge, the photos are 100% authentic. Do you have any evidence to support them not being authentic?

Quote :

"how many cards were in this INWO game?"

I don't know the total number of cards in the game.

4/7/2006 9:14:43 AM

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: LITERATURE THROWING IT IN OUR FACE

1994 Tom Clancy novel Debt of Honor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_of_Honor

Quote :

"America's reaction is swift and deadly, and at the end of the novel the status quo ante is restored. In a parallel to the real-life September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the book ends with an embittered Japanese airline pilot crashing his Boeing 747 into the U.S. Capitol building during a joint session of Congress with the President attending. He does this to avenge the deaths of his brother and son during the war. This paves the way for Ryan, who has just been appointed Vice President, to become President in the next book, Executive Orders."

MORE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF PRIOR KNOWLEDGE: HISTORY THROWING IT IN OUR FACE

1945 NYC Plane Crash
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_State_Building

Quote :

"At 9:49 a.m. on Saturday July 28, 1945, a B-25 Mitchell bomber accidentally crashed into the north side between the 79th and 80th floors, where the offices of the National Catholic Welfare Council were located. The fire was extinguished in 40 minutes. 14 people were killed in the accident. During the accident, elevator operator Betty Lou Oliver survived a plunge of 75 stories inside an elevator, and currently holds the Guinness World Record for the longest elevator fall recorded."

WWII KAMIKAZE ATTACKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze

Quote :

"Kamikaze is a word of Japanese origin, which, in the English language, usually refers to suicide attacks carried out by Japanese aircrews against Allied shipping towards the end of the Pacific campaign of World War II."

WWII SELBSTOPFER ATTACKS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selbstopfer

Quote :

"Selbstopfer (selbst+opfer, German for self-sacrifice or self-offering) was a late-World War II German project to develop a "smart weapon" for attacking high-value targets such as bridges and command centers. First proposed by Otto Skorzeny, leader of the German commandos, and Hanna Reitsch, the famous test pilot, they suggested using converted V1 Flying Bombs with a tiny cockpit on top, with a pilot."

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR DURING THE CRUSADES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attack

Quote :

"During the Crusades, the Knights Templar destroyed one of their own ships, killing 140 Christians in order to kill ten times as many Muslims."

SAMSON DURING BIBLICAL TIMES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson

Quote :

""Then Samson prayed to the LORD, 'O Sovereign LORD, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes' (Judges 16:28)." "Samson said, 'Let me die with the Philistines!' (Judges 16:30) Down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more as he died than while he lived." (Judges 16:30)."

Clearly Tom Clancy, the WWII Army Air Force, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, the Knights Templar, and the Bible were all involved. They used literature and human history to subconsciously manipulate people to believe that if these events did actually happen, it would be a like a novel or a historical event, not a part of reality, therefore we should not worry too much. Anyone who would dare to say that Tom Clancy, the WWII Army Air Force, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, the Knights Templar, and the Bible were responsible for such terrorist attacks would immediately be branded a "lunitic conspiracy theorist." This is one of the sickest depraved operations that could possibley be devised, it is conditioning on a mass scale."

4/7/2006 9:27:56 AM

if you had to wager a guess

would you say there were 100, 500, 1000? more?

4/7/2006 10:15:29 AM