its not trolling if we're right

5/24/2006 1:49:20 PM

you admitted you were trolling me, woody

5/24/2006 1:52:56 PM

Quote :

"IF YOU SUPPORT NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY YOU ARE A CRACKPOT"

Who said that?

Quote :

"National Sovereignty = Nationalism"

Please explain.

5/24/2006 1:55:30 PM

mr joshua and his oh so important "questions"

funny stuff

5/24/2006 1:57:48 PM

you're too stupid to answer, or won't answer because they don't go in line with your agenda



who's the crying bitch now, asshat?

WAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!

[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 1:59 PM. Reason : *]

5/24/2006 1:58:53 PM

I just want to know how you equate national sovereignty with nationalism. It sounds like a fairly asinine and self-serving comparison.

5/24/2006 2:02:04 PM

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"I just want to know how you equate national sovereignty with nationalism."

national sovereignty

nationalism

Both are concerned with the idea of the nation.

WHAT AN EFFING IMPORTANT QUESTION. BY GOD, THAT'S THE BEST QUESTION EVAR! MR JOSHUAS ASKS SUCH GREAT "QUESTIONS." IF I HAD IGNORED SUCH A QUESTION OR ANY OF MR JOSHUA'S OTHER VEEERRRRRY IMPORTANT "QUESTIONS", THEN ONE WOULD THINK I'M IGNORING THESE HARD-HITTING CRITIQUES OF MY POSITION

Thanks again for the question

5/24/2006 2:07:54 PM

They both contain the word "national". Is that seriously your answer?

By that rational, National Geographic = nationalism.

That is some of the worst logic that I have ever seen, even from you.

5/24/2006 2:11:42 PM

Quote :

"Both are concerned with the idea of the nation. "

5/24/2006 2:12:57 PM

Well shit. So is National Geographic.

5/24/2006 2:13:59 PM

Ok, let's spell it out for the troll...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism

Quote :

"Nationalism sees most human activity as national in character. [...] Since the nation-state has become the dominant form of state organization, nationalism has had an enormous influence upon world history. Most of the world's population now lives in states which are, at least nominally, nation-states. The nation-state is intended to guarantee the existence of a nation, to preserve its distinct identity, and to provide a territory where the national culture and ethos are dominant. "

nationalism
the nation-state
the idea of national sovereignty


AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE "HARD-HITTING QUESTIONS" THAT "REFUTES MY POSITION", AND IF I HAD IGNORED WOULD HAVE SHOWN ME TO "NOT ENGAGING IN A RATIONAL DISCUSSION"



what a complete joke


[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 2:20 PM. Reason : ```````]

5/24/2006 2:19:04 PM

you are deliberately evading the question

in the context that you used the two, this is not as simple as what you just spewed



who's the crying bitch now, asshat?

WAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!

[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 2:20 PM. Reason : *]

5/24/2006 2:20:19 PM

Salisburyboy never answered my post.

5/24/2006 2:20:40 PM

I'm not evading anything

I'm wasting my time responding to the troll

5/24/2006 2:20:44 PM

you've been wasting your time for about 3 years at the very least

didn't seem to mind up until now

5/24/2006 2:21:47 PM

How am I a troll for questioning your logic?

Thats what discussion boards are for.

5/24/2006 2:22:05 PM

Quote :

"no problem. when are you going to get back to us on why downing street was "total crap" that noone believes? "

that wasnt relevant to that thread nor is it relevant to this thread. not only that, we wouldnt get anywhere. you believe what you do. i will believe what i do. not only that. i said that in relation to something salisburyboy said. you cant talk to him like you talk to anyone else because he is insane and i simply refuse to conceede that he is right about any of the millions of things that he simply states as fact. thats why i said that. can you get past yourself now? please?


also...

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"national sovereignty nationalism"

HAHAHHAHA.....that is great. almost as good as the undeniable conclusive proof that he gave me that jews were responsible for 9/11 which consisted of fuzzy pictures of Bin Ladin

5/24/2006 2:37:49 PM

STILL WAITING FOR THAT NORTH AMERICAN UNION TO REPLACE USA, JEROME CORSI IS A GENIUS

5/24/2006 2:40:17 PM

This is a huge problem. Concentrating power is never a good idea. The more power is centralized in this country the more problems we have. We need DE-centralization, not more centralization. Every American should be up in arms about this. But I know you have more important things to worry about like who is going to win American Idol.

5/24/2006 2:42:30 PM

i say taylor hicks will win

5/24/2006 2:43:47 PM

^^i dont give a shit about this conspiracy theory, or american idol

so what do you have to say now, smarty pants

5/24/2006 2:52:41 PM

Quote :

"AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE "HARD-HITTING QUESTIONS" THAT "REFUTES MY POSITION", AND IF I HAD IGNORED WOULD HAVE SHOWN ME TO "NOT ENGAGING IN A RATIONAL DISCUSSION" "

Damn I love this stuff!!!

hey Sayer are you getting this???????????

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" I can formulate questions fine. However, this particular question is valid and relevant."

Suuuuuuuure you can.

[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 3:07 PM. Reason : .]

5/24/2006 2:55:55 PM

you're supposed to watch your mtvs and ballgames

don't worry about serious things like our rights and freedoms being destroyed, the country literally being invaded by tens of millions of foreigners, warrantless/illegal/unconstitutional domestic spying, the government lying and misleading the country into disasterous wars, etc

everything is fine
the government loves us and will protect us
even if they take our guns and destroy our national sovereignty

just tell yourself it'll all be ok
denial is just as good as facing reality

5/24/2006 2:59:47 PM

sarcasm and trolling yourself....thatll win support....good job matt

5/24/2006 3:01:24 PM

how many guns of yours have they taken?

WAIT, YOU'RE NOT A FELON ARE YOU?

5/24/2006 3:02:06 PM

Quote :

"you're supposed to watch your mtvs and ballgames don't worry about serious things like our rights and freedoms being destroyed"

let me paraphrase what you just said salisburyboy:

Enjoy your rights and freedoms.

5/24/2006 3:06:42 PM

Quote :

"Just out of curiosity, what would be the obvious, inherent evil in forming a larger Union, assuming our rights stayed the same?"

But how would you gurantee that all your rights stayed the same? The more government levels you add, the more chance you have of your rights being stripped away in the name of national security, patriotism, or some other made up bullshit reason.

5/24/2006 3:09:32 PM

You guys are blind. The government is just

feeding the little sheep (drums of bullshit), while at the same time, building a fence around you all (mental enslavement).


You don't have to believe every CT, but some of the things that are happening is evident. Face it.

^exactly, he made that question based on some jive utopian p.o.v, and he expects someone to give him an answer

[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

5/24/2006 3:10:17 PM

Voyager 2 has detected evidence of the magnetic edge of the solar system (aka the heliopause) at 76 AU (1 AU = 93 million miles), much closer to the Sun than the location of 85 AU found by Voyager 1. From the article: 'This implies that the heliosphere, a spherical bubble of charged low-energy particles created by our Sun's solar wind, is irregularly shaped, bulging in the northern hemisphere and pressed inward in the south. [...] The researchers think that the heliosphere's asymmetry might be due to a weak interstellar magnetic field pressing inward on the southern hemisphere.'"

5/24/2006 3:14:21 PM

^^you are weakminded if you let your mind become enslaved

the government doesnt have a super conspiracy to make all americans they're slaves

all the government wants is money...its not that hard to understand...money money money

5/24/2006 3:17:31 PM

They don't have to, we are all slaves to corporations. Corporations=government. They control this country, not us. There are elections every four years, which leads you to believe that you can make a difference by voting. Truth is you can't, not on the federal level anymore. A Kerry administration wouyd have been little different than the current Bush administration. They are, including both parties they represent, in the pockets of big corps/special interest groups.

Quote :

"all the government wants is money...its not that hard to understand...money money money"

And power. But money=power, so I see where you are coming from. Politicians today don't care about us. They only care about getting reelected, gaining more power, and rewarding those who put them in office (IE: the wealthy, corporations, special interest groups).

5/24/2006 3:22:54 PM

Quote :

"hey canada gotten into nafta yet? i hear the only thing slowing them down is their adherence to key loggers"

5/24/2006 3:23:08 PM

and

mental enslavement = physical enslavement

Quote :

"you are weakminded if you let your mind become enslaved"

Very true. But for some of us, the veil covers our eyes and we are sold lies and dreams constantly in nearly everything we do/see.

And when you challenge someone to "think a different way" other than what they constantly see on t.v you get equated with being a wacko. I just don't understand.

But hey,Some of historys' greatest thinkers, thought outside the box...

[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 3:30 PM. Reason : .]

5/24/2006 3:24:21 PM

and some people, like an obvious one on here, are clearly bat shit insane.

5/24/2006 3:30:23 PM

Quote :

"canada gotten into nafta yet"

Quote :

"Let me remind everyone that the government and the MSM never make mistakes. Never. And it's unthinkable that they would deliberately lie to people. That could NEVER happen. Also, remember that worshippers of Bush and the government in general, and those who think the MSM and the government are speakers of gospel truth....these people never make mistakes either. They're infalliable. You should infinitely trust the government and MSM even if they continually lie to you. Meanwhile, those who are trying to tell you the truth...if they make a mistake or two, then they're completely unreliable."

5/24/2006 3:30:24 PM

wait

are you suggesting that canada isn't in NAFTA?

5/24/2006 3:33:16 PM

the MSM and those supporting the establishment view have NEVER made a mistake

NEVER

5/24/2006 3:36:44 PM

ah ha....this is the first time i have ever heard any sense come out of you salis....even thought your being a total smart-a$%

so you admit then that there are differences between "lies" and "mistakes"??

5/24/2006 3:38:18 PM

I STILL DON'T GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SALISBURYBOY

ARE YOU NOW COMPARING YOURSELF TO THE MSM

OR DID YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A SOURCE THAT SUGGESTED CANADA WAS NOT IN NAFTA

PS

THATS A BIG FUCKING "MISTAKE"

5/24/2006 3:42:11 PM

OMG

OMG OMG

IT WASN'T LAPTOPS AND PC'S IN THE UNITED STATES WITH KEYLOGGERS

IT WAS CANADA!!!

OMG

[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 3:44 PM. Reason : *]

5/24/2006 3:43:50 PM

And here's another important point...

The MSM and government NEVER intentionally lie to you. NEVER. The "mainstream" government-approved "official" version of events is ALWAYS 100% honest and true. True blue baby.



Meanwhile, those people who are exposing the government and MSM deceptions are "not trustworthy." If they even make one small mistake, such as a typo....they are "totally not credible" and "probably lying to you."

5/24/2006 3:44:20 PM

an entire story about keyloggers was a typo

interesting

was this done by a million monkeys at a million typewriters?

5/24/2006 3:45:44 PM

Quote :

"The MSM and government NEVER intentionally lie to you. NEVER. The "mainstream" government-approved "official" version of events is ALWAYS 100% honest and true. True blue baby."

i suppose this is your pathetic attempt to answer my question and at the same time ignore me??

5/24/2006 3:45:44 PM

^

Quote :

""AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE "HARD-HITTING QUESTIONS" THAT "REFUTES MY POSITION", AND IF I HAD IGNORED WOULD HAVE SHOWN ME TO "NOT ENGAGING IN A RATIONAL DISCUSSION""

5/24/2006 3:47:08 PM

ahaha

5/24/2006 3:48:02 PM

Quote :

"i suppose this is your pathetic attempt to answer my question and at the same time ignore me??"

5/24/2006 3:48:56 PM

How could I possibly answer every single "question" all these trolls are throwing out there? Even if they were serious questions--as opposed to trolling--I don't have the time to answer every single one.

I'm not trying to ignore any serious question.

Think about this practically.

5/24/2006 3:52:40 PM

hey...right now im asking one question....yes or no....is there a difference between the MSM making mistakes and telling lies??

5/24/2006 3:53:48 PM

How could I possibly read every single "copy/paste" you keep throwing out there? Even if they were credible articles--as opposed to hack jobs by crackpots--I don't have the time to read every single one.

I'm not trying to ignore any serious post.

Think about this practically.

5/24/2006 3:54:22 PM

Quote :

"But how would you gurantee that all your rights stayed the same? The more government levels you add, the more chance you have of your rights being stripped away in the name of national security, patriotism, or some other made up bullshit reason."

How do you guarantee our rights stay the same in this country as it exists now?

(waits for you to answer)

All of those ways would still work.

Remember, we are talking about three democratic nations with largely similar basic rights. I still want someone to explain to me how adding three governments that don't randomly take away rights will create one that does.

SALISBURYBOY

WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER ME???

5/24/2006 3:58:28 PM