Anyone who is more concerned with the graphics than the gameplay in a GTA game is a fool. The graphics only have to be good enough to let you run around and kill everyone you want to.

3/18/2008 11:52:28 AM

I'd take GT3 graphics, if i could go into each building and have more things to interact with.

3/18/2008 11:54:51 AM

^supposedly you can go into about any building (Though the map isnt technically as large area-wise as GTA3...supposed to be bigger vertically)...and the graphics will be better than GTA3

3/18/2008 4:02:49 PM

the graphics will be better than GTA3

orly?

3/18/2008 4:05:38 PM

only on 360 tho

on PS3 the game looks like

3/18/2008 4:12:15 PM

heh. couldn't you switch the view to something like ^that in GTA III?

3/18/2008 4:27:00 PM

^^ I was more excited about GTA2 as a kid than any other video game that I can remember. That is still my favorite GTA game.

3/18/2008 4:28:47 PM

GTA3 was so dope though...they finally got with the times and used the same type cameras as Driver: You Are The Wheelman

3/18/2008 4:35:19 PM

I don't think I was excited for a videogame more than Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire.

3/18/2008 11:34:04 PM

First images of multiplayer








Thats me riding shotgun in the last pic, with treetwista with the hat on about to get gotten

3/25/2008 4:15:10 PM

good thing i got the COD4 patch so my martyrdom + sonic boom will blow your jank ass no-hood hoopty into pieces

what kinda busters roll around with a Liberty City vanity plate? maybe you and your boy can trade it in for a nice Faggio

3/25/2008 4:24:03 PM

I will meet you all in Liberty City and rape you in a side alley on April 29th.

3/25/2008 4:29:30 PM

Here's a picture of the map.

http://www.maxconsole.net/content_img/gtaivmapone.jpg

3/26/2008 1:39:05 PM

k..refreshing worked

[Edited on March 26, 2008 at 1:54 PM. Reason : a]

3/26/2008 1:42:50 PM

so by the looks of that

Broker is Brooklyn

Dukes is Queens

Bronx is Bohan

Manhattan is Algonquin

and Alderney is Jersey

3/26/2008 1:48:34 PM

the map isn't working anymore.

3/26/2008 2:41:07 PM

I read that originally they had an entire state planned out like in GTA:SA, but they cut it down so that it's smaller than San Andreas. One of the best things about SA was that it was just so fucking huge, and you could go explore all over the place.

3/26/2008 2:44:03 PM

http://www.gtagaming.com/news/comments.php?i=1219

3/26/2008 3:29:27 PM

Yeah, I was hoping they would extend the city into the very northern part of NYC where it kind of turns into a little bit of wooded area. As long as there's a little bit of countryside/suburbs and it's not all city then I'll be happy. They're usually pretty good about not making it all urban area.

3/26/2008 3:38:37 PM

Well you have to figure there's at least a central park equivalent in there somewhere

Also I bet some of the Jersey area is woodlands/swamps since thats how it is in real life

3/26/2008 3:43:39 PM

San Andreas had plenty of city but also lots of sticks and backwoods

maybe some Jersey Shore or upstate NY or maybe they'll just make Connecticut

3/26/2008 3:46:56 PM

I'm thinking the non-urban part will be in the Jersey area. That map seemed like a complete game map and the most northern part was still part of Algonquin (Manhattan). Since Manhattan goes like 150 streets north and it doesn't look like there's more than 100 in the game I doubt anything north of NYC will be in the game.

3/26/2008 4:08:20 PM

yeah i didnt see the map yet, is it up on another server?

hopefully they'll go up to at least 139th street in harlem so we can kick it in Big L's old turf

3/26/2008 4:11:34 PM

Just google GTAIV Map... I saw it. Corona Park/Shea Stadium area is in the game!

It only goes up to ~100th St just N of Central Park and most of Brookly and the Bronx isn't in it.

My guess is the Palisades across from the northern part of "Algonquin" will be more rural..

[Edited on March 26, 2008 at 4:13 PM. Reason : x]

3/26/2008 4:13:13 PM

3/26/2008 4:32:48 PM

Here's the pictures. I saved them on my computer and will rehost them if they get taken down again.

3/26/2008 4:41:33 PM

New trailer is out. And boy is it awesome!

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/#?page=videos&content=trailer4

3/27/2008 7:17:43 PM

I can't wait.

3/27/2008 7:23:22 PM

I hope the area is bigger than the map seems

3/27/2008 7:30:07 PM

I'm not a GTA fan, but that trailer makes me want to pick up this one.

3/27/2008 10:52:12 PM

this is part slideshow...some pretty cool screenies.

another funny tailer...

3/28/2008 6:42:43 AM

that map does look like it will have some cool places to go. not as big as SA, but there is still a lot of exploration that can be done!

3/28/2008 7:22:43 AM

Rumored list of XBL achievements:

Quote :

"Off the Boat 5G Complete the first mission. One Hundred and Eighty 10G In a darts game score 180 with 3 darts. Pool Shark 10G Beat a friend at pool. King of QUB3D 15G Beat the High Score in QUB3D Finish Him 15G Complete 10 melee counters in 4 minutes Genetically Superior 25G Come first in 20 singleplayer street races. Wheelie Rider 30G Do a wheelie lasting at least 500 feet on a motorbike. Gobble Gobble 10G Score 3 strikes in a row, a turkey, in 10-pin bowling. Driving Mr. Bellic 10G Unlock the special ability of taxi. Rolled Over 30G Do 5 car rolls in a row from one crash. Walk Free 50G Lose a 4 star wanted rating by outrunning the cops. Courier Service 10G Complete all 10 package delivery jobs. Retail Therapy 10G Unlock the special ability of buying guns from a friend. Chain Reaction 20G You must blow up 10 vehicles in 10 seconds. One Man Army 40G Survive 5 minutes on 6 star wanted level. Lowest Point 5G Complete mission "Roman's Sorrow". Over Fulfilled 10G Complete all 10 Exotic Export orders. Manhunt 15G Complete the most wanted side missions from the police computer. Cleaned the Mean Streets 20G Capture 20 criminals through the police computer. Fed The Fish 5G Complete the mission "Uncle Vlad". It'll Cost Ya 5G Complete a taxi ride without skipping from one island to another. Sightseer 5G Fly on all helicopter tours of Liberty City. Warm Coffee 5G Successfully date a girl to be invited into her house. That's How We Roll! 10G Unlock the special ability of helicopter. Half Million 55G Reach a balance of $500,000. Impossible Trinity 10G Complete mission "Museum Piece". Full Exploration 20G Unlock all the islands. You Got The Message 20G Deliver all 30 cars ordered through text message. Dare Devil 30G Complete 100% of the unique stunt jumps. Assassin's Greed 20G Complete all 9 assassin missions. Endangered Species 50G Collect every hidden package in the game. Under the Radar 40G Fly underneath the main bridges in the game that cross water with a helicopter. Dial B For Bomb 10G Unlock the special ability of phoning for a bomb to be placed. Gracefully Taken 10G Complete mission "I'll Take Her". Liberty City (5) 20G After meeting all possible friends, the ones left alive all like you above 90%. No More Strangers 5G Meet all random characters. That Special Someone 10G Complete mission "That Special Someone". You Won! 60G Complete the final mission. Liberty City Minute 30G Complete the story missions in less than 30 hours. Key To The City 100G Achieve 100% in "Game progress" statistic. Teamplayer 10G Kill 5 players who are not in your team, in any ranked multiplayer team game. Cut Your Teeth 5G Earn a personal rank promotion in multiplayer Join The Midnight Club 10G Win a ranked multiplayer race without damaging your vehicle too much and with damaged enabled. Fly The Co-op 15G Beat our time in ranked versions of "Deal Breaker", "Hangman's NOOSE" and "Bomb da Base II". Take It For The Team 10G Be on the winning team in all ranked multiplayer team games. Top Of The Food Chain 10G Kill 20 players with a pistol in a ranked multiplayer deathmatch. Top The Midnight Club 20G Come first in 20 different ranked standard multiplayer races. Wanted 20G Achieve the highest personal rank in multiplayer. Auf Wiedersehen Petrovic 30G Win all ranked multiplayer variations, all races and "Cops 'n Crooks", as both sides. Let Sleeping Rockstars Lie 10G Kill a Rockstar developer in a ranked multiplayer match. "

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news.php?id=885

3/30/2008 8:15:25 AM

Hahahah, oh god it looks even worse than the single player screenshots It looks like it could be a lot of fun though.

4/8/2008 9:46:57 AM

Only 3 more weeks...

4/8/2008 11:30:43 AM

^^ holy shit those screenshots look awful

4/8/2008 12:59:42 PM

http://www.gametap.com/read/article/5481

Honestly the multiplayer sounds pretty cool and relatively deep for a feature you'd think they just tacked on to a game most people everybody is buying for the single player. 15 modes, persistent online rankings, and more.

Quote :

"GTA Race is ripped straight from previous GTA single-player campaigns. Up to 16 people can play in a no-holds barred lap race to the finish. But like past GTA games, cars are destructible, and drivers can arm themselves with pistols, machine guns, rifles, and more. This means you can drive any car, moped, or forklift you see; heck, even walking across the race line even counts, as long as you're first. As our three-hour session revealed, it’s just as much fun preventing others from crossing the finish line and disrupting their racing lines with Molotov cocktails and grenades as it is to win. (Another mode Rockstar casually mentioned was GT mode, which is a straight weaponless race.) Sticking with tradition, no cars are licensed, but fans can pick from car classes, and in each class, they can pick from familiar favorites such as Infernos, Turismos, Comets, and Supercars, to name a few."

That sounds fucking awesome!

[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 1:17 PM. Reason : :]

4/8/2008 1:15:58 PM

Hahaha, the Kotaku preview is even better. This sounds like funnest multiplayer since Battlefield.

http://kotaku.com/376220/hands-on-with-gta-multiplayer-city-of-chaos

Quote :

"In our introduction to the mode, myself and Newsweek's N'gail Croal were burning around the course, which I believe took place near GTA's Central Park, when we came to a stone archway we absolutely had to go through to complete the lap. Problem was, there were cars, lots of cars blocking our way. By the time I had assessed the situation, one of the other players ran up to me and killed me at the wheel. The race quickly devolved into a deathmatch until we realized that Croal had nosed his car through the wreckage and was burning through the laps. In another race, this one taking place at an airport complete with moving planes, I didn't bother trying to speed through the course and instead clamored on top of an airport gangway with a rocket launcher and just waited. When people came by I blew up their cars. Meanwhile Rockstar's Jeronimo Barrera was taking great pleasure trying to mow down Croal in what looked like a golf cart."

Quote :

"The second play through didn't go nearly as well. A Rockstar developer took the wheel of the armored car again, and another rode shotgun. Croal hopped into the back to shoot at pursuing cops. I opted to swipe a helicopter that was on the runway and followed the wagon as it entered the interstate, trying to gun down the stream of cop cars in pursuit. Then it happened: Croal was shot. The hit didn't kill him, but it did knock him from the truck which continued to speed toward the drop off point. Soon Croal was surrounded by cops on the middle of an interstate. I turned my chopper around and told Croal I was coming for him. Landing the copter in a nearby clearing, I got out to try and find Croal, but he had snatched a car and was already out of the police infested area. I ran back to my copter only to find its rotors had been snapped off during my crap landing next to a copse of trees. The whole thing ended with me being gunned down by a phalanx of cops as I ran down the interstate toward the distant extraction point, and the whole team losing."

4/8/2008 2:17:26 PM

Quote :

"holy shit those screenshots look awful"

lemme guess, you were one of those people that was always bitching about how crappy the graphics in GTA III/Vice City/San Andreas were while the rest of us were too busy having fun to notice?

4/8/2008 2:30:34 PM

^^ awesome, want it

4/8/2008 2:36:47 PM

these graphics look like complete shit

4/8/2008 2:49:46 PM

the biggest problem i had with all the GTAIII games is when you are flying down a road or interstate fullspeed in a car or motorcycle, or flying the jet through the city the frame rate cant keep up and trees or cars come out of nowhere.

also, when you are going fullspeed on the highway the other cars tend to switch lanes in front of you and speed up and jerk around when you try to pass.

i hope they fix this bull

(most obvious in San Andreas)

[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2008 11:08:46 PM

i don't understand the concept behind shrinking the driving area in favor of increases the space above the road in a driving game called Grand Theft Auto

4/8/2008 11:10:36 PM

i dont give a shit about the graphics, but the bitch better control more fluidly and have more consistent and nicer frame rate for me to care about this series. Other iterations felt like wet shit

4/8/2008 11:15:10 PM

^^cause the GTA series has gotten much bigger than just an overhead view 2d game about stealing cars...its the leading game in the whole free roam sandbox style genre

besides you can still steal cars in GTAIV...iirc from earlier demo reviews, its a little more realistic...you can jack a car that somebody is driving...but for a parked car i think you have to smash a window and hotwire it...sounds like more realistic auto theft

^meh...graphics certainly arent perfect but thats far from the most important thing in the GTA games...a game like Myst had great graphics (at the time) but just wasnt that good of a game...meanwhile i could play GTA3 right now on PS2 and enjoy the hell out of it...but i guess everybody has different tastes in games

[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 11:20 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2008 11:17:43 PM

Quote :

"lemme guess, you were one of those people that was always bitching about how crappy the graphics in GTA III/Vice City/San Andreas were while the rest of us were too busy having fun to notice?"

It's not like I'm not going to get the game and probably enjoy playing it, I just expected better. The graphics in those muliplayer screenshots look maybe a half step better than some xbox1 games. Gameplay is the determining factor in whether or not I'll buy a game, but I don't see why it's ridiculous to be somewhat disappointed that the graphics in this game don't appear to be truly "next-gen."

4/9/2008 7:35:52 AM

^i agree to an extent, nicer graphics would be awesome, however, they need to sacrifice something in order to fit everything into the game, especially considering how huge the map is and how interactive everything is.

i'd rather the graphics take a hit in order to fit everything else in the way it should be.

4/9/2008 8:46:47 AM

Gameplay + Feeling of true Freedom > Graphics.


THIS DOES NOT MEAN GRAPHICS ARE NOT IMPORTANT

4/9/2008 8:49:17 AM

they graphics and details are nice, all the previews said they were...draw distance is great, etc

you can't expect them to make this massive game with everything looking like bioshock or whatever you think is the best looking game...

also, many games tone down graphics in MULTIPLAYER to make sure they run smoothly

4/9/2008 10:15:40 AM

^ quoted for totality.



question of the day:
Is this multiplayer purely online or on console or both?

4/9/2008 11:18:41 AM