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He was not going to leave peacefully but they didn't have to tazer his ass.

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9/18/2007 9:29:00 PM

they might not have had to taser his ass if he had left the first few times they tried to get him to leave

OH NOES THEY TOUCHED MY ARMS

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:30 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 9:29:55 PM

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"hey i'm going to think i'm a badass and fuck up kerry's speech...i should be immune from all consequences!"

As I've said repeatedly, there are other ways to respond. Most likely, giving this guy a few minutes would have solved the problem.

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"^you shouldnt be posting on here...TWW has too much order and too many rules for your liking"

Actually, it's one of the most open forums I know of. Besides, forum rules aren't enforced by cops with tasers.

9/18/2007 9:31:06 PM

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"kid asks legitimate questions(well, maybe not the skull and bones question), which he prefaced with some information and went over on time, big fucking deal. some cop grabs him to try to take him way, for no reason."

Before the video even starts he is nearly escorted out of the hall for jumping in front of someone else who was asking a question. The only reason he wasn't bounced was because Kerry told them to let him stay, though he was obviously being watched.

Then, when you watch the video, the people in charge of the event cut his microphone and have the cops go to escort him out. The kid without a doubt staged the event to try and draw some kind of reaction with the video edited to specifically drum up "fuck the police" sentiment.

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:33 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 9:31:16 PM

and the soap box has completely taken over. Might as well move the thread at this point....

9/18/2007 9:31:58 PM

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"Capt. Jeff Holcomb of the UPD said there would be an investigation into whether the officers used force appropriately, adding that employing a Taser gun would only be justified in a case where there was a threat of physical harm to officers."

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"Capt. Jeff Holcomb of the UPD said there would be an investigation into whether the officers used force appropriately, adding that employing a Taser gun would only be justified in a case where there was a threat of physical harm to officers."

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"Capt. Jeff Holcomb of the UPD said there would be an investigation into whether the officers used force appropriately, adding that employing a Taser gun would only be justified in a case where there was a threat of physical harm to officers."

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"Capt. Jeff Holcomb of the UPD said there would be an investigation into whether the officers used force appropriately, adding that employing a Taser gun would only be justified in a case where there was a threat of physical harm to officers."

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"Capt. Jeff Holcomb of the UPD said there would be an investigation into whether the officers used force appropriately, adding that employing a Taser gun would only be justified in a case where there was a threat of physical harm to officers."

9/18/2007 9:32:06 PM

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"^^its the exact opposite of your troll where apparently people can do anything they want as long as force isnt involved hey i'm going to think i'm a badass and fuck up kerry's speech...i should be immune from all consequences!"

first, where did i ever say any of this?

second, kerry wasn't giving a speech. it was a question and answer session, so...? what

9/18/2007 9:32:54 PM

OH NOES THEY TOUCHED MY ARMS

I'M TAKING THIS SHIT TO THE SUPREME COURT

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"if you get pulled over by a cop while you're driving...you have the constitutional right to tell him to go fuck himself...thats not breaking the law...its just completely fucking retarded and only an arrogant idiot would do it"

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:36 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 9:34:43 PM

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"OH NOES THEY TOUCHED MY ARMS"

No, they were attempting to force him to leave.

9/18/2007 9:37:41 PM

he needed to either leave or stfu...and it was pretty clear he wasnt about to stfu

9/18/2007 9:38:55 PM

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"No, they were attempting to force him to leave."

Yeah, which they had every right to do.

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:39 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 9:38:58 PM

again i think some of the people defending the student are looking at it as if he was standing on a public sidewalk and talking and cops just decided to grab him and tase him...far from the case

9/18/2007 9:39:52 PM

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"Yeah, which they had every right to do."

No, they didn't.

9/18/2007 9:41:02 PM

Im all for the taser. Its the adult equivalent to a spanking. The kid was acting like a child and got his spanking, just with volts and not battons. He should be thankful for that.

This kid was def. up to something. There is another video of it, and even before he starts talking there are already two cops right on him.

Can we both agree that if the kid would have walked out with the cops in the beginning he would not have been tasered, or probably arrested. Can we agree on that?

9/18/2007 9:41:07 PM

^^where in the constitution (which clearly has too many rules for an anarchist like yourself) are you entitled to act like an asshole and not deal with any consequences?

he got to say his piece...he got more time than anybody else did...but that wasnt good enough for him

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:42 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 9:42:09 PM

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"Can we both agree that if the kid would have walked out with the cops in the beginning he would not have been tasered, or probably arrested. Can we agree on that?"

Yes, the masters like it when you cooperate.

9/18/2007 9:42:25 PM

when keeping it real goes wrong

9/18/2007 9:42:57 PM

everything leading up to the tasing is irrelevant.

what is bothersome is that he was cuffed and was being restrained by 5 or 6 cops. yeah, he was yelling, so what. he's cuffed, on the ground, and covered with cops. why tase him? you people keep defending the cops actions leading up to the tasing. okay, great. defend the tasing

9/18/2007 9:43:03 PM

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"employing a Taser gun would only be justified in a case where there was a threat of physical harm to officers."

i'd taser him if i thought he was going to spaz out and throw an elbow to the eye

9/18/2007 9:43:27 PM

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"everything leading up to the tasing is irrelevant"

thats completely false

if he had left on his own he wouldnt have been tased or even gotten any more force than the cops holding his arms while they walked out

it was his actions and the scene he made that led up the tasing...its completely relevant

^or what about harm to a united states senator? i'd like to see some smartass TWWer at a George Bush thing try to pull the same stunt, then act surprised when secret service tackles that ass

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:45 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 9:44:19 PM

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"^^where in the constitution (which clearly has too many rules for an anarchist like yourself) are you entitled to act like an asshole and not deal with any consequences?"

Why do you keep assuming physical force is the only consequence?

Besides, I don't think he was being that much of an asshole.

9/18/2007 9:44:39 PM

irrelevant to this discussion, is what i meant, jesus.

defend the tasing. again, he was cuffed, on the ground, covered with cops. defend the tasing

9/18/2007 9:45:16 PM

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"No, they didn't."

Explain why not.

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"what is bothersome is that he was cuffed and was being restrained by 5 or 6 cops. yeah, he was yelling, so what. he's cuffed, on the ground, and covered with cops. why tase him? you people keep defending the cops actions leading up to the tasing. okay, great. defend the tasing"

He was still resisting. Still has legs, elbows, etc.

9/18/2007 9:45:48 PM

yep. youre not supposed to use the taser when the perp is already subdued. whats gonna be bad for the cops is that it is going to be argued that the cops used the taser as a sort of punishment which is definitely a no-no.

9/18/2007 9:45:59 PM

^^^it IS COMPLETELY RELEVANT to the discussion

HE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN TASED IF HE HAD COOPERATED

i used to think it was cool to be defiant with a "fuck the cops" type attitude

then i grew up

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:46 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 9:46:02 PM

who's this moron that keeps saying a taser is just an adult spanking?

9/18/2007 9:48:17 PM

he was not cuffed. He was still trying to keep his one arm free. They struggled with him for a bit, before one says "tase him", then the child started to get worried.

Emce, that would be me. Its the instant attitude adjustment. It gets your attention and does no lasting damage.

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:49 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 9:48:22 PM

one more time

he was on the ground, there were 6 cops on top of him. was tasing him really the best course of action here. defend it.

9/18/2007 9:48:25 PM

why was he on the ground? why hadnt he just walked out on his own? cause he's trying to start shit...and only idiots would try to start shit with 20 cops around

and its hard to see whats going on towards the end when they tase him...obviously its a much clearer video at the beginning

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:49 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 9:49:03 PM

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"^or what about harm to a united states senator? i'd like to see some smartass TWWer at a George Bush thing try to pull the same stunt, then act surprised when secret service tackles that ass"

Ah, yes. It's important to protect the masters at all costs.

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"Explain why not."

Words should be answered with words.

If, after a considerable amount of talking, he wouldn't leave or settle down, I could perhaps accept physically removing him.

9/18/2007 9:49:17 PM

jesus christ on a stick man. i asked one question and you won't answer it.

9/18/2007 9:49:48 PM

you asked a loaded question while ignoring how much of a douchebag this guy was

honestly if it was a black dude who had shoved two cops, he would've gotten it a lot worse

but OH NOES THEY TOUCHED MY ARMS, I'M GONNA ACT LIKE A TOUGH GUY

what kind of idiot shoves cops, continues to act violent, and doesnt expect the worse

9/18/2007 9:50:40 PM

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"was tasing him really the best course of action here."

Perhaps not, but I'm rather partial to the kicking of the face myself.

9/18/2007 9:50:40 PM

k, you can't defend it. thanks. thats all i wanted.

i forgot being a douchebag is grounds for a tasering while being restrained by 6 cops.

9/18/2007 9:51:47 PM

i forgot, shoving law enforcement officers is completely legal and acceptable and you should be able to do it all the time with no consequences

9/18/2007 9:52:42 PM

guess what, after he "shoved" the officers, they got him on the ground and about 6 of them were lying on top of him

9/18/2007 9:53:16 PM

defend what? Acting like an idiot gets you into bad situations?

Guess what, I have never had to be forced out of a place by cops, fought back, been forced to the ground resting their orders....you know why? And Ive never been tasered either. I guess im just lucky these rogue bad cops skip over my business when they are bored and looking to taser citizens.

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:54 PM. Reason : .]

9/18/2007 9:53:22 PM

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"defend what?"

defend the tasering you fucking moron. i thought i was pretty clear

9/18/2007 9:54:08 PM

tasers rule!!!1!1!1!1!11

9/18/2007 9:54:21 PM

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"after he "shoved" the officers, they got him on the ground and about 6 of them were lying on top of him"

and he still tried to resist...most smart people would realize they were beat and give up...but he's not most smart people

also its cute how you put the word shoved in quotation marks to act like he didnt physically assault police officers

9/18/2007 9:54:32 PM

even on the ground the dipshit kept resisting...dipshit.

9/18/2007 9:54:38 PM

the constitution gives me the right to assault police officers with no consequences!

9/18/2007 9:55:06 PM

I don't know anyone could watch that video and described the dude's actions as "violent."

Perhaps near the end, but he hardly did anything when they grabbed him.

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"i forgot, shoving law enforcement officers is completely legal and acceptable and you should be able to do it all the time with no consequences"

If they grab you, sure.

9/18/2007 9:55:07 PM

i dont think an anarchist can give any type of legitimate perspective on this since obviously the cops are tyrants and that guy is a hero

9/18/2007 9:55:39 PM

They managed to handcuff people before tasers.

9/18/2007 9:55:43 PM

^yeah they beat people down with fists or nightsticks if they got out of line

[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 9:56 PM. Reason : v]

9/18/2007 9:56:13 PM

yep, and they often used battons to get people to cooperate. Remember those?

9/18/2007 9:56:14 PM

the bitch was still yammering after they tazed him

it's not like they shot the fucker

wtf is the issue

9/18/2007 9:58:11 PM

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"the constitution gives me the right to assault police officers with no consequences!"

the consequences for his actions should be doled out by a court. yeah, he was resisting, BUT THEN, they got him on the ground.

it's not a cops fucking job to be handing out consequences for a perps prior actions.

watch the video again. right before they tase him he is doing nothing close to what could be described as "violently resisting". he turns around, looks at the cop and says dont tase me. then BAM, tased.

9/18/2007 9:58:45 PM

maybe next time he wants to show off for his website in front of a bunch of cops, he'll actually THINK BEFORE HE ACTS

9/18/2007 9:59:26 PM