the writer was way melodramatic imho

11/28/2007 12:26:16 PM

live like a thug, die like a bitch

11/28/2007 12:32:07 PM

sooo....did he lose his right to have a gun? Anyone who loses their right to have a weapon to defend themselves............might be a troublemaker

11/28/2007 12:54:59 PM

the law didnt stop him from carrying a gun in the past

i just dont know why he wouldnt at least have a shotgun or something for home protection

i mean a machete is great when the intruder is unarmed...

11/28/2007 12:57:32 PM

lets hear what a white guy from boston now living in SoCal thinks:

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"PV (Blacksburg, VA): How do you feel about the type of coverage given to Sean Taylor yesterday? I know a lot of people were saying it was unfair and unbalanced due to some of the conclusions that were being reached. SportsNation Bill Simmons: (12:46 PM ET ) From what I watched, I thought the coverage was extremely balanced. It reminded me of the Josh Hancock coverage in that there was an "elephant in the room" that everyone seemed to be avoiding - in this case, someone broke into Taylor's house the previous week and left a kitchen knife on his bed, and the police are trying to figure out if the two break-ins were related? Whaaaaaaaaat???? SportsNation Bill Simmons: (12:48 PM ET ) I mean, just think about this logically. If one of your buddies had someone break into his house when he wasn't there, and the intruder left a knife on his bed, and then a week later, your buddy was shot and killed in his house, would you think those 2 events were related? Come on. I feel terrible for Taylor and his family, and there was nothing good about this story, but for everyone to pretend that somebody out there did NOT want Taylor dead... I just think it's naive. "

beaaaaaaaatin a deaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad horrrrrrrrrrse

11/28/2007 2:27:19 PM

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"n 2005, he was accused of pointing a gun during a fight over all-terrain vehicles near his Miami home,"

i wonder who killed taylor

11/28/2007 3:55:20 PM

yet the woman with him at the time he was killed doesnt remember anything


after the last break in....GET SOME SECURITY a dog, camera....something


seems to be a lot deeper than anyone is letting on

11/28/2007 4:02:58 PM

http://svpstyle.blogspot.com/2007/11/what-sean-taylor-means-to-black-america.html

11/28/2007 6:16:40 PM

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"Report: NFL Had Previously Warned Sean Taylor About Spending Quiet Evenings Alone At Home MIAMI—Immediately after Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor died from gunshot wounds sustained when an unknown intruder broke into his Florida mansion and assaulted Taylor, NFL officials announced that they had warned the Pro Bowler against indulging in such risky behavior as sleeping quietly in his own home. "We communicated to Mr. Taylor several times that his lifestyle, including his insistence on living in a high-crime city and associating with such known troublemakers as NFL players, was potentially dangerous," a statement from the league's legal department read in part. "Although we are greatly saddened by Mr. Taylor's death, we feel we have lived up to our responsibilities in this matter." Following the announcement of Taylor's death, spokesmen for the league reached out to all NFL players and warned them of the risks of doing absolutely anything whatsoever."

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/report_nfl_had_previously

11/29/2007 8:32:42 AM

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""This was not the first incident," Rolle said. "They've been targeting him for three years now." Rolle said many former "friends" had it in for Taylor, who was trying to build a more stable life.""

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/11/29/antrel-rolle-on-sean-taylor-theyve-been-targeting-him/

i really feel for the whole situation, dude was really lookin like he was turning it around but his past caught up to him.

11/29/2007 9:52:10 AM

This piece by Michael Wilbon in the Washington Post is a harsh, but honest assessment of the situation

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/27/AR2007112702680.html

11/29/2007 10:59:37 AM

Yeah, I guess that's a lot better than the garbage he was saying right after he was shot.

11/29/2007 12:06:30 PM

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/story/324931.html

Good piece by Le Batard.

11/29/2007 4:47:03 PM

Le Retard being melodramatic as usual

11/29/2007 7:55:42 PM

another great read from Whitlock

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7499442?MSNHPHCP>1=10637

11/29/2007 11:33:29 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113001094.html?nav=rss_email/components

11/30/2007 3:54:25 PM

Four arrested in death of Sean Taylor

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/30/sean.taylor/index.html

11/30/2007 9:47:35 PM

and the cops are saying that one has confessed and that this was a random robbery in which they didnt plan on shooting anyone

11/30/2007 9:49:05 PM

that's a rag tag group of teenagers

11/30/2007 11:21:18 PM

still, no matter what terball, the Sean Taylor apologist will tell you, that doesnt condemn anyone for speculating with curiosity given his background that it could have been some thug shit from his past

just wanted to preempt him, and that argument

11/30/2007 11:23:06 PM

^ I won't argue with that. I just thought it was unfair to assume - now you see why.

3 people have been charged with unpremeditated murder this morning. I'm just glad they're catching these motherfuckers.

12/1/2007 10:10:47 AM

I live in Southern Maryland. Chock full of Redskins fans. Everyone at work was a step slower this past week.

12/1/2007 10:51:08 AM

yeah, the game was another bummer too

12/2/2007 8:52:24 PM

I had actually never heard the term "unpremeditated." I thought it was premeditated murder or murder.

12/2/2007 9:03:20 PM

Shouldn't matter that it was unpremeditated. Since they killed him during the commission of a burglary, it's first degree murder.

If they don't end up in solitary confinement, these guys are gonna get the hell beat out of them in prison.

12/2/2007 10:34:32 PM

kind of funny how this thread has gone since the arrests were made and the charges were filed

12/2/2007 10:55:48 PM

Yeah, looks like Terpball was right

12/3/2007 9:33:08 AM

talking about yourself in the third person

watch out, youre going crazy

12/3/2007 10:18:24 AM

~Looks like Terpball was the only one that made a definitive claim of what happened without knowing anything, and turned out to be partially right. They did target Sean Taylor for a robbery (and apparently not murder). Also it appears that he may have been brought down in part because his stepsister hung out with some lowlifes (at least 2 of the killers), and had even had them over to a party at Sean Taylor's house while he was out of town over Thanksgiving.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113002059.html

While these weren't people that had beef with him, it's a damn shame he never got far enough away from the destructive circles that were far too close in South Florida. I believe this is what Rolle was talking about.

12/3/2007 10:37:26 AM

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"~Looks like Terpball was the only one that made a definitive claim of what happened without knowing anything, and turned out to be partially right."

basically, my main point was that it was unfair to throw that "oh, he was just into too much thug shit" argument out there so much. In that sense, I was right.

12/3/2007 10:40:59 AM

No, you shot your mouth of with a bunch of baseless claims. Some of them turned out to be correct. Some were not. This being completely random, for example, was not.



Most of the others were speculating based out Sean Taylor's history and the limited information that was known, without making definitive claims. But you can tell yourself you win if it helps you sleep at night.

12/3/2007 10:54:25 AM

^^ no it wasnt unfair at all

everyone speculated that some thug shit from his past could have been a possibility...one of many possibilities

you turned into the thread d-bag by vehemently denying even the plausibility

that doesn't make you "right" because one of the many scenarios being discussed didnt play out.

12/3/2007 11:07:24 AM

okay

12/3/2007 11:09:35 AM

This hadn't completely registered until I went to the game Sunday and saw the people in my section that I see every game. Everyone looked like they hadn't slept in a week...

There are few fan communities in pro sports that are with their organizations the way skins fans are, and this guy really was the definition of a "fan favorite." Everyone was in tears from the video up until the first defensive series was over.

It is a tremendous loss to so many people, and like Portis said, it makes you realize both how unimportant a game can be, but at the same time, how important it is. Hundreds of thousands of people feel this loss because of how much this diversion can mean to us, whether they know him personally or not.

12/3/2007 12:38:33 PM

Yeah, on the local news all i see is people crying for the past week

12/3/2007 12:45:03 PM

http://www.mixmakers.net/sports/myspace-pictures-of-sean-taylors-killers.html

12/3/2007 3:06:18 PM

in one of those pages, this dumb bitch said her brother didn't do none of that shit

i could barely understand it, but I think that's what she was tryin to say

12/3/2007 4:14:33 PM

From the sister:

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"MY BIG BRO DEF DIDNT DO THAT SHIT SO A MUCH NEED 2 GET OFF HIS TRAIL CUZ I DONT BALIEVE HE DID NONE OF THAT SHIT BRO A BITCH ALWAYZ GONE DO 4 U BUT THEY B THA MAIN 1S TURNIN DEY BACK ON YA WEN U GET BEHIND BARZ I LOVE U BRO "

ahaha...Wow. What the fuck is wrong with America?

'Balieve'?

[Edited on December 3, 2007 at 5:37 PM. Reason : ]

12/3/2007 5:25:23 PM

That's how young people type when they aren't writing a research paper

My little cousin does it a little different (there's an urban way of doing it, and a more suburban way) - but it's JUST as bad. She's also in a math and science magnet school in Maryland, her father (my uncle) is a rocket scientist at Nasa - the girl isn't stupid at all.

12/4/2007 9:40:32 AM

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"What the fuck is wrong with America?"

12/4/2007 9:50:11 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/02/AR2007120202260.html?nav=rss_print/asection

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"Minus One, Redskins Play On By Les Carpenter Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, December 3, 2007; Page A01 All through yesterday's memorials, moments of silence and strings of Sean Taylor highlights, the Washington Redskins' defensive players held close a secret unknown to even Coach Joe Gibbs. It was a formation, devised the day before by Gregg Williams, the team's assistant head coach-defense. Its title a jumble of code save for the one word Williams placed in the middle: "Taylor." They would use it the first time they were on the field. Drawn on paper, the play called for 10 living Redskins to fill their normal spots, with their dead teammate's name and his No. 21 marked in the 11th. As Williams handed it out Saturday night, he said that even though just 10 players would be on the field, the one missing would still be by their side. "He was going to ride with us one more time," Williams said. History will not look kindly upon the success of the Sean Taylor formation. Buffalo running back Fred Jackson took a handoff and ran 22 yards. Nor will it show the Redskins won their first game after Taylor's death from a gunshot wound Tuesday. Instead, a botched strategic move by Gibbs, who illegally called two consecutive timeouts to rattle Buffalo Bills place kicker Rian Lindell's nerves, allowed Lindell to kick an easy 36-yard field goal through a steady rain, giving Washington its fourth straight loss, 17-16. As the game ended and what was left of the 85,831 fans, who filled FedEx Field clutching white towels with Taylor's 21 printed on the front, shuffled through the aisles, the Redskins' players jogged off the field with lips sealed and eyes staring straight ahead. Running back Rock Cartwright slammed his helmet on the ground. Then they came into their locker room with Taylor's locker preserved behind Plexiglas, his jersey in shoulder pads, ready to be worn, and heard Gibbs apologize to them for the mistake in calling the two timeouts at game's end. It was, many of them would admit, a surreal moment on a day that never seemed right. "Someone said to me earlier, 'Didn't you think you would have a fairy tale ending?' " guard Pete Kendall said. "I said win or lose it was not going to be a fairy tale ending." Then he shook his head at the thought of the funeral today in Miami, which will be attended by the whole team. "This is only going to get harder," he added. Yesterday the sun never shined at FedEx. A damp cold filled the air as many fans pulled Taylor jerseys over heavy sweatshirts and jackets. The crowd seemed to arrive early, a constant mass gathering in front of a Taylor shrine near the team's store, staring at the collection of photographs, homemade signs and flowers spread under a makeshift tent. Then quietly it moved inside the stadium. Most of the stands were filled 20 minutes before kickoff when the scoreboard asked for silence and the Redskins band played "Goin' Home" a spiritual adapted from Antonin Dvorak's Symphony No. 9. ad_icon Some fans dabbed at tears. A few cheered when a clip appeared of Taylor saying the best part of life in the National Football League was "playing home," in front of the fans in Washington. But mostly people were subdued. A banner that read "Forever on the Field. RIP Sean Taylor" fluttered from the upper deck. Among the many signs scattered through the stands were ones that said "God needed a safety" and "Heaven got one hell of a safety." The mood did not improve as the game began. The Redskins' first play, a completed pass to wide receiver Reche Caldwell, drew a modest spattering of applause. Even when the team moved easily down field and kicked a field goal, the roar did not grow. In fact, it seemed the stadium never got loud, not until Washington scored the game's only touchdown, a third-quarter run by Clinton Portis who was one of Taylor's closest friends on the team. But it wasn't until the day's last desperate few seconds, with Washington's game-long lead suddenly in jeopardy at 16-14, that the noise grew. Yet this is when Buffalo quarterback Trent Edwards hit wide receiver Josh Reed with a 30-yard pass that gave the Bills hope and set up a 51-yard game-winning field goal attempt. Then Gibbs called his two timeouts. The first was legal, coming just before Lindell struck the ball, and it forced the Bills' kicker to have to line up and try it again. The second was not allowed under the rules. The officials' flags flew. The ball was moved up 15 yards and a difficult kick became simple. Later, Gibbs would say he asked the official standing next to him on the field if he was allowed to call consecutive timeouts in that situation and said he was told he could. He said the official asked him, "When do you want to call it?" But he also insisted the responsibility was his. "To be quite truthful, I made a decision there at the end that very likely cost us the game. That's on me," he said. As he left his office beneath the stands and walked toward the interview room, Gibbs was met by the team's owner, Daniel Snyder, who had been unusually visible all week, flying to Miami on Monday to visit Taylor's bedside and delivering the news of the player's death to Gibbs and many others in the organization. As Snyder came toward the coach, Gibbs shook his head solemnly and apologized for the timeout calls. "That's okay," Snyder replied. "We're all in this together." While a few players seemed agitated by the timeout mistake, many others said they didn't blame their coach. It had been such a hard week. They were beyond such trivial things as criticizing Gibbs. "We shouldn't have let them get down there where they could kick that field goal," linebacker London Fletcher said. He looked around the room, toward the locker tucked between the stalls of Shawn Springs and Pierson Prioleau, normally indistinguishable from the others but this time impossible to miss because of the glass covering that shined with the reflection of the room's lights. Someone said the ending felt all wrong, as if somehow the Redskins should have been destined to win for all that had happened. "It's not even fair," Fletcher said, agreeing. Then he laughed dryly. "Life isn't fair." On the other side of the room, defensive end Phillip Daniels heaved his giant shoulders, sighed and said he was sure Taylor was on the field with them. He could feel his teammate, he said. "I just wish he could have knocked that last ball down at the end," he said laughing. "But we don't blame him. We understand." "

12/4/2007 10:41:12 AM

Ray Lewis' pregame pep talk to a couple of the other The U grads was pretty fiery...they didn't win the game but it was a nice tribute...saying it wasn't a game, but it was a family thing and one of their family had moved on and to do it for him or whatever

12/4/2007 10:42:55 AM

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"wlb420 All American 5413 Posts user info edit post anyone can get robbed, not just thugs....and there have been several cases in the past few months of NFL players being held @ gunpoint and robbed. Looks like its becoming a trend."

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"wlb420 All American 5413 Posts user info edit post what's naive is to rule out any possibility of this being random, or at least no fault of taylor. sure there is a possibility he was into something he should've been, but on the flip side there is the possibility he wasn't.""

Bitches.

12/4/2007 11:07:40 AM

12/4/2007 2:02:52 PM

^if only they had free healthcare, this all could have been avoided.

It actually looks like taylor landed some shots with the machet on the bottom right one.

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 2:07 PM. Reason : .]

12/4/2007 2:06:35 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3160120

posthumously voted to NFC Pro Bowl team - as a starter

12/19/2007 9:48:43 AM

yeah I mean... he was on his way to the pro bowl anyways.

12/19/2007 9:57:53 AM

A very nice tribute to one helluva safety. He and Landry would have been nasty for years to come, and I don't think Taylor was anywhere close to peaking.

RIP Sean.

12/19/2007 10:03:10 AM