There's that holier than thou mentality I was talking about!

8/13/2008 12:23:01 PM

I think you are confusing holier than thou with real disappointment.

Don't take it the wrong way but non-GOPers who are angry at Edwards are just disappointed in how this was handled, his actions, and the whole situation he put lots of good people in.

8/13/2008 12:34:48 PM

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"Who cares if he cheated on his wife? I mean seriously people, get over yourselves. You are not holier than thou. People fuck up, just be happy when it's something harmless like cheating on a wife and not something harmful, like... starting a war and murdering thousands of people for no apparent reason other than to transfer $100 billion from the taxpayers to private contractors. Not only that, he spoke up for the homeless vets - something I see more than anyone else on TWW. I'm sure it wasn't his idea, but nobody else running made a deal about it. And you guys are talking about him cheating on his wife? LOL - Next step -- go join the Bill O'reilly clan and run up on journalists on the street to try to make your program look tough. After you deny that there are any homeless vets in this country, you gotta do that first."

No, I'm not confused at all. As much as I see people step over homeless vets on my way home from work, I think it's sick that people can be talking about something so frivolous. Why would they be dogging him so much if they didn't think they were better than him because of those actions? How did he put them in a bad position? Just because some people wanted a guy that *gasp* CHEATED ON HIS WIFE - to be president? PLEASE!

[Edited on August 13, 2008 at 12:39 PM. Reason : ]

8/13/2008 12:38:33 PM

*gasp* CHEATED ON HIS WIFE WHILE SHE WAS SICK WITH CANCER

8/13/2008 12:40:43 PM

Oh, you're right, that makes all the reall pressing issues LESS IMPORTANT, because 1 lady has cancer. fuck outta here

8/13/2008 12:44:11 PM

wow i didn't know you were so far on john edwards dick that you're defending him for cheating on his wife with cancer as if thats something that everyone does

8/13/2008 12:46:30 PM

I get the homeless vets argument. I do and compared to most things it is of utmost importance.

But you have to understand a lot of people are involved in political campaigns and emotional align themselves with a said candidate. I am not saying its acceptable over such an issue like homeless war vets, but in our society that is currently the case.

TT makes a good, albeit snark, point. Many people (involved in the campaign or politics in general) are disappointed that a man with such supposed dignity and humbleness (with losing his oldest son, being from a mill town, 2 Americas, etc.) could cheat on his dying wife (she's just not sick).

Look I am saying from personal conversations with people close to his 2004 campaign that the mood is disappointment not "OMG he's scum b/c he cheated on his wife". I mean most of these people loved Bill Clinton. Yes there are real more pressing issues, and they are there. Don't confuse 3 days of media coverage and countless internet opinions as it being real legitimate an issue.

I'm not trying to defend either side. I could not care less to be honest. But I don't want you to be sent over the edge on such a trivial issue terpball. I think you are smarter than that (compliment).

8/13/2008 12:50:45 PM

^^Oh, I forgot how the soapbox works. The more valid your point, the more red treetwista's face gets as he slams his keyboard and types that you're on someone's dick... usually followed by a lot of nonsese, bill o'reilly style off-the-path tangent to an irrelevant emotional crybaby phrase like "SHE HAD CANCER"

Now I remember!

^ If someone says they're disappointed in him, fine. I get it. If you look at my first post here, I wasn't really targeting them with that post though. I specifically was calling out the treetwista types who are using this as an opportunity to trash him. What he was talking about in his campaign is what really matters, not him cheating on his wife.

[Edited on August 13, 2008 at 12:54 PM. Reason : ]

8/13/2008 12:51:00 PM

bring forth a valid point before spewing your usual garbage

you have a problem with people ignoring homeless guys on the sidewalk, but in your great moral judgement, you see nothing wrong with cheating on your dying wife? i can only guess its because you're all over edwards' nuts

if you were arrested for robbing a bank you'd be bitching about the cops taking you in instead of going after murderers and rapists

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"I specifically was calling out the treetwista types who are using this as an opportunity to trash him"

you are using this as an opportunity to trash bush...kudos to you for trashing someone that has absolutely zero to do with edwards cheating on his dying wife

8/13/2008 12:52:25 PM

I think I've made my point aleady, if you think I'm gonna sit here at work and bitch back and forth with your special brand of ignorance, you're sadly mistaken.

8/13/2008 12:57:43 PM

your "point" is that who cares if this guy cheats on his dying wife as long as you see people ignoring the homeless because everybody cheats on their dying wife, dont act holier than thou!!1...great point...i'm sure he'd never skirt any of his presidential responsibilities, because apparently cheating on your dying wife isnt a character flaw that could possibly carry over into your presidential duties

i guess terpball's main point is "so what he's not as bad as bush"

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"just be happy when it's something harmless like cheating on a wife and not something harmful, like... starting a war and murdering thousands of people for no apparent reason other than to transfer $100 billion from the taxpayers to private contractors."

I DON'T GIVE A FUCK HOW DESPICABLE CHEATING ON YOUR DYING WIFE IS, I HATE BUSH HE'S EVIL HALIBURTON RAWR!!

[Edited on August 13, 2008 at 1:06 PM. Reason : .]

8/13/2008 12:59:23 PM

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"LOL"

I'm not sure what to make of this, Smoker4. Fact is, humans typically enjoy sex acts. That's close as it comes to universal. There's nothing magically different about being touched by person with testicles as opposed to a person with ovaries. Indeed, there's little reason to make a significant distinction between these two groups. What's weird is how some folks only want to engage in sex acts with certain types of people.

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"Because Craig was talking about his built-in sexuality,"

He was? How do you know?

8/13/2008 1:07:02 PM

fuck john edwards.

fuck larry craig.

fuck MAF54

fuck Ted Haggard

fuck all you whiny bitches.

you're all a bunch of self-righteous hypocrites.

8/13/2008 2:22:58 PM

I warned you all about this guy.

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"Did anybody else see Edwards on This Week? Good Lord, he never looked more like a weasel--flippin' and floppin', duckin' and dodgin'. It was laughable--if you elect this guy, you deserve him. http://abcnews.go.com/politics"

hooksaw - 5/7/2007 3:42:21 AM

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=457093&page=10

8/14/2008 5:46:16 PM

so what. you aint so smart.

i warned y'all about re-electing Bush way back in early 2004.

now look whats happened.

8/14/2008 6:05:08 PM

^ Yeah, and Kerry-Edwards would've been so much better.



Sweet Jesus. STFU.

8/14/2008 6:22:51 PM

Exactly.

Kerry-Edwards would, indeed, have been so much better. And that's fucking pitiful.

8/14/2008 6:29:06 PM

^ I disagree.

8/14/2008 6:35:12 PM

i dont like kerry too much, and i wasnt real thrilled with him in 2004.

but my fucking insane cousin would have --- o wait. no he wouldn't have been.

whatever, the point is just about any of our national leaders would have done a better job than this clown we got in now. Bush is a disgrace.

8/14/2008 8:24:41 PM

on further review...

if Bush is a disgrace, Edwards is a piece of shit.



I hope he lives a long life in complete irrelevance and obscurity, with never a political position anywhere again. I'd also like it if he'd have to live on a working man's wages, but thats probably asking too much.

maybe his wife should sue him for everything she can.

8/15/2008 12:49:00 AM

But then he couldn't afford those awesome haircuts

8/15/2008 10:09:37 AM

This whole mess stinks of a cover-up.

Edwards' ally explains $14,000 payment to mistress

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"WASHINGTON — New questions emerged Friday about John Edwards' longtime chief fundraiser and secret efforts that protected the pregnant woman with whom the former presidential candidate has admitted a shameful affair in 2006. Fred Baron, Edwards' national finance chairman and a wealthy Dallas-based trial attorney, has acknowledged he quietly began sending money to Rielle Hunter, Edwards' mistress, to resettle in California, along with the family of Andrew Young. Young is the campaign aide who has said he is the father of Hunter's daughter, born after her affair with Edwards. But Baron is far more intertwined in the matter than previously known, with longstanding personal connections to the lawyers who represented Hunter and Young, according to a review of legal findings by The Associated Press. Hunter's lawyer, Robert J. Gordon of New York, was sued unsuccessfully with Baron and Baron's law firm in 2001 in U.S. District Court in New York in a racketeering complaint. Young's lawyer, Pamela J. Marple of Washington, was among three lawyers who defended Baron and his firm. The case was dismissed in December 2005. Baron didn't return a phone call or respond to an e-mail from the AP on Friday. The relationships among Baron, Marple and Gordon were first reported in Friday's editions of the New York Times. The newspaper said Baron acknowledged he might have played a role in hiring Marple and Gordon in the Edwards scandal, after initially saying he did not know how the lawyers were chosen. Meanwhile, an earlier payment of $14,000 to Edwards' mistress from the candidate's political action committee was exchanged for 100 hours of unused videotape she shot producing short Web movies for which she already had been paid $100,000, an Edwards associate told the AP. Neither Edwards' advisers or this associate would discuss the purpose of the payment on the record. That payment from Edwards' OneAmerica political action committee, which came after Hunter stopped working for it, came in April 2007, months before Baron quietly began sending money himself to Hunter. Baron has described his payments to Hunter as a private transaction. Edwards acknowledged last week that he had an affair with Hunter in 2006. The former Democratic presidential contender and senator from North Carolina has denied any knowledge of payments from Baron to Hunter. Baron's payments could present legal problems, said Washington attorney Cleta Mitchell, who specializes in campaign finance law and who represents Republican candidates and conservative groups. She said all payments to anyone involved in Edwards' presidential campaigns - including Hunter and Young - should have been fully disclosed under U.S. campaign finance laws. 'That would undermine the purpose of the payments, which was to avoid public disclosure of the affair,' Mitchell said. 'The idea that Edwards' finance chairman can independently hand over substantial sums of money to two campaign workers at a time when Edwards is a candidate and to argue that that is not related to his campaign is a bit preposterous.' The earlier, $14,000 payment to Hunter is significant because its source was Edwards' OneAmerica political action committee, whose expenditures are governed by U.S. election laws. Willfully converting political action committee money to personal use would have been a federal criminal violation. An associate of Edwards, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the $14,000 was paid to Hunter only after she relinquished about 100 hours of cutting-room floor videotape excerpts that were not part of four short Web videos she had produced for Midline Groove Ltd., a company Hunter started with a business partner in 2006. When Hunter provided the last of more than 100 hours of footage, the firm was paid as contracted for, said the Edwards associate. Legal experts said it was important for Edwards to demonstrate the PAC wasn't paying Hunter merely to keep her quiet about the affair. 'One thing that's possible is that she was still owed money from what she'd done before for the political action committee, but obviously there are less charitable explanations,' said Richard Hasen, a professor specializing in campaign finance law at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. Edwards, who made millions as a personal injury lawyer, has relied heavily on fellow lawyers to finance his political career. And no single law firm has been more generous than Baron's. Through Edwards' election to the Senate from North Carolina and his 2004 presidential bid, the Dallas firm had donated $419,650 to help Edwards win elections, according to the Center for Public Integrity. Baron, a former president of the main national trade association for trial lawyers and a longtime Democratic donor and fundraiser, also was Edwards' finance chairman in both his 2004 and 2008 campaigns for the presidential nomination. In the current campaign, lawyers were by far the top contributors to Edwards, providing $7.7 million of his $52 million fundraising total. And a zip code in Dallas, where Baron's firm is based, was the fourth most generous to Edwards this year, giving $115,000, according to the Center for Responsive Politics research group. Besides giving and raising money, Baron provided an even more valuable asset to the Edwards campaign: his firm's corporate jet. Campaign finance records show Edwards' campaign reimbursed the firm more than $400,000 last year under rules that require payment of the equivalent of first-class airfare for such travel - in effect a campaign subsidy, since chartering a jet would cost far more. Edwards said several times in an Aug. 8 interview with ABC News that the affair with Hunter was short-lived. But there is evidence that Edwards and Hunter spent months together in 2006, traveling the world and the country as he prepared for his second run for the White House. One of Hunter's friends, Pigeon O'Brien, told the AP that Hunter told her the affair with 'John from North Carolina,' who was married to a woman who had been seriously ill, began in March 2006. That conflicts with Edwards' statement that the affair started only after he hired her to produce several videos for his Web site. The first payment for that was made in July 2006. It appears from her videos that she accompanied him on several trips during the summer and into the fall: to Pittsburgh for a rally against Wal-Mart Stores Inc., to Iowa for a speech to an education group, to New York for an appearance on 'The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.' She also apparently tagged along during a five-day trip to the African nation of Uganda. Edwards said several times during his interview with ABC the affair ended in 2006, when he confessed to his wife Elizabeth that he had 'made a very serious mistake, a mistake that I am responsible for, and no one else.' 'And then she forgave me, and we went to work on it,' Edwards said. But Hunter was still hanging around Edwards late into the year. At the end of December, Hunter's videos debuted online. And a few days after Christmas, when Edwards formally entered the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, Hunter was alongside in New Orleans for the announcement. Elizabeth did not make the trip. On Dec. 29, Hunter attended and filmed a rally in New Hampshire, and flew with Edwards from there to Reno, Nev. Shortly there after, Hunter later told a Newsweek reporter, she was fired. Edwards said last week he did not plan to speak again about the affair, and a former campaign official reiterated this week that Edwards will not discuss the subject. It's not clear where Hunter is currently living, and a woman who answered at Hunter's lawyer's office this week refused to take a message. Hunter's sister, reached at her home in Nevada, also refused to comment. 'I talked to John (Tuesday) and he's not doing well,' said David 'Mudcat' Saunders, who served as Edwards' chief adviser on rural affairs. 'He's just - to be very frank with you - he's just not doing well. He needs to be concentrating on himself and his family at this point in his life. He's a good boy. He just made a hell of a mistake.' Edwards has denied Hunter was paid to cover up the affair, and said he had no knowledge that Baron was sending money to both Hunter and Young, the married Edwards staffer who has said he is the father of Hunter's daughter. She was born in February 2008. In a brief interview this week, Baron reiterated that Edwards and his wife were not involved with Baron's transactions. He said no campaign funds were used and that Hunter was not working for the campaign when he started giving her money. 'The bottom line to it is John Edwards and Elizabeth Edwards had no knowledge of anything I did,' Baron said. 'I did it as a friend.'"

http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/3384002/

[Edited on August 15, 2008 at 6:21 PM. Reason : ]

8/15/2008 6:20:53 PM

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"'I talked to John (Tuesday) and he's not doing well,' said David 'Mudcat' Saunders, who served as Edwards' chief adviser on rural affairs. 'He's just - to be very frank with you - he's just not doing well. He needs to be concentrating on himself and his family at this point in his life. He's a good boy. He just made a hell of a mistake.'"

Agreed. Let it go, people.

8/15/2008 6:29:13 PM

^ I'm more than ready to do so, but the financial aspects of this scandal must be investigated fully. In any event, what I always knew is clear to all now: Edwards is a lying weasel.

8/15/2008 6:32:46 PM

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"Edwards is a lying weasel. "

I agree. I also think the kid is his. It would be pretty funny if he does have to serve a month in jail over the misuse of funds. Its sad when you have to turn to the national enquirer for the true stories these days.

8/15/2008 6:36:27 PM

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"He needs to be concentrating on himself and his family at this point in his life."

he should have been concentrating on his family, that's that fucking problem.

you know, when he was propping his sick/dying wife up a paragon of selflessness as she supported his campaign for political power.

that sonofabitch.

using his campaign money to pay people off to cover his personal affairs? fuck him




[Edited on August 16, 2008 at 12:07 PM. Reason : ]

8/16/2008 12:06:59 PM

Both Bill Clinton and John McCain had affairs and are still thriving politicians. That doesn’t make it okay at all though, it’s indefensible for anyone to do that imo.

8/16/2008 10:54:38 PM

i think its pretty easily demonstrated that while McCain and Clinton are asshole hypocrites, neither of their affairs rise to the level of purely disgusting I'm-A-Human-Piece-Of-Shit that Edwards has shown himself to be.


nope, i've had it. I admit i was wrong.

I regret any previous statements of mine defending the guy. Mark Foley and Larry Craig? they're a couple assclowns. Ted Haggard is probably the only one that comes close to Edwards in disgusting hypocrite behavior, but at least his wife isnt dying.

8/17/2008 1:45:31 AM

Let me state for the record...

Yes, John Edwards lied about his affair repeatedly. He recanted only upon realizing that enough evidence was out there to prove it. He gets no credit for fessing up nor does he get the benefit of the doubt that he (1) actually reconciled with his wife, including the time fram in which it happened, and (2) is NOT in fact the father of that child, which flies in the face of common sense given the circumstances.

In short, John Edwards fully deserves to be thrown under the bus just as much as he deserved to be applauded for taking care of, and supposedly being true to, his cancer-ridden wife. I'm not suggesting he get any leniency for his transgressions...


However, I AM suggesting some of you guys, if not all, need to check yourselves a bit. In the past I used to get royally pissed over this kinda crap too. Some politician gets caught cheating his wife, or soliciting a prostitute, or is picking up dudes in an airport bathroom stall, or got himself a blow job from the secretary down the hall, etc. "Bastards..." I'd say. "Get the fucker outa here. God I can't believe how screwed up DC is!"

Then after the 435614th freakin' time it happened, it finally dawned on me... these are the douchebags we chose represent us. Our elected officials in congress and in the white house run ridiculously long campaigns run mainly by volunteers coupled with a small collection of talented sleezebags, some of which are their fellow politicians. Of course the upper echelons get paid pretty decently, but the rest work 70, 80, even 90+ hours a week for shit pay all b/c they'll get the cozy government jobs that come with being friends with an elected official.

Of course, as the candidate, you have to make sure you get elected. Far be it that you actually try to delve deeply into each issue. You might even want to, and privately you could probably speak at length about each issue, even ones like abortion and immigration which never seem to go away or get any better. But that doesn't fit into a soundbite. As a candidate you're forced to condense your positions down into bite-size portions since the average American would just stare at you blankly 5 seconds into your explanation about why "No Child Left Behind" is actually leaving kids behind. Most voters won't understand it anyway, and the ones that do will require so much time and effort to convince that it's probably not worth it.

Alas, you're inevitably better off sticking to the talking points that bring in the simpletons and party loyalists and just hope you get just enough informed voters to put yourself over the top. It's not cynical - it's just the most effective way to WIN. And you absolutely must win... how else do you intend to repay all the favors you owe to the army of foot soldiers that made it possible for your campaign to function properly?

So how do you get elected? By (A) knowing how to make people believe you after speaking for 60 seconds, (B) knowing how to make some of those people work for free (or worse - work for the promise of getting some government job that they're completely unqualified to handle), and finally (C) figuring out how to raise the money to pay for the whole damn thing. That includes everything from the speech writers to the hair stylists to the army of spin doctors needed to explain stupid shit like "why you didn't have your hand over your heart during the national anthem."

So really, when you take an honest look at this picture, why the fuck are you getting so self-righteous over yet another slimeball politician getting caught cheating on his wife? This is the perfect type of person to do the job... a job which you get paid poorly, work long hours away from your home state, and get absolutely no privacy whatsoever for yourself or your family. Seriously, let's ask ourselves - What kind of manipulizing, slick-tongued, egotistical attention-whore would actually WANT these jobs???

That would be the people we elect to office...

So go ahead. Get pissed at John Edwards. Tell him how much you hate him for making you believe in him only to be let down. Tell him how you always knew he was a fucking liar and you're glad he got called out on it. Tell him he's the scum of the earth and that he'll burn in hell. Tell him that he represents everything that's wrong with politics...

...and then consider what it'd be like to have his job. Consider what it'd be like to try and GET his job. Consider what it'd be like to try and do his job WELL. The politicians in DC, for all their faults, do in fact represent some of the most brilliant minds our country has to offer. They are the reason our government doesn't suck more than it already does. Think of the complete and utter chaos that'd ensue of if WE had to take over for them...

I don't hate politicians. I pity them. I especially pity the idealistic, principled, honest and hard-working politicians that, in spite of everything, actually try to do their jobs the right way. I pity them b/c they will constantly be harrassed and bogged down by the typical sleezebags they're forced to work with day-in and day-out. How someone could stand it is beyond me. Words can't describe how deeply I appreciate every clean, honest politician that honorably accepts his shitty pay and lack of privacy instead of dishonorably caving into bribes from special interests and using his position to get free trips to Italy for his family (that'd be you, Governor Easley).

But no, I no longer get all worked up about yet another politician being exposed for what he/she truly is - a giant phony. Frankly, I've got better things to do. I've accepted ithe fact that politics attracts sleezebags like a bright light attracts a moth. I've moved on... mainly b/c I wouldn't touch their jobs with a 30-foot pole. Am I going to forgive John Edwards? Yeah. Am I going to vote for or support him again? Hell no. Am I going to lament his transgressions as anything more than fodder for the National Enquirer? Fuck that. I might as well take up giving reviews for Dennys Restauarants... At some point you'd have to accept the fact that the food most likely sucks, and if it doesn't then it's a bonus. The same goes for politicians. In Edwards's case I just say "Well, we found another dirtbag. Kick his ass to the curb and bring in the next one. Maybe we'll get lucky and he won't be a total sleeze... and if not we'll boot his/her ass to the curb and try again..."

"Man of the Year" was, IMO, a shitty movie, but it did give us one great quote:

"Politicians are like dipers. They should be changed regularly, and for the same reason."

That's how I view politics. Every election year we should do our best to filter out the shitheads b/c, let's face it, that the kind of person the job attracts. That and their jobs suck ass and we should be happy anyone with half a brain would actually want to do it. I recognize the fact that, if I was a politician in DC, there's an excellent chance I'd be a raging alcoholic doing lines in the bathroom stall of a nightclub while getting head from a 15-year-old hooker for $5000 which I'd of course be charging towards my office budget as a "therapy session" or something.

So let's drop the fucking attitude. Stop acting so shocked and outraged. Odds are, you too have better things to do.

8/17/2008 5:53:25 AM

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"Erios: I recognize the fact that, if I was a politician in DC, there's an excellent chance I'd be a raging alcoholic doing lines in the bathroom stall of a nightclub while getting head from a 15-year-old hooker for $5000 which I'd of course be charging towards my office budget as a "therapy session" or something. So let's drop the fucking attitude. Stop acting so shocked and outraged. Odds are, you too have better things to do."

I've never considered family values a big concern in picking my representatives, but WTF?

None of what you said is okay. It's wrong, completely wrong.

Sex with children? Seriously?

8/17/2008 7:43:43 AM

Sexually abused Senate pages ring a bell?

8/17/2008 9:14:22 AM

^^^ A totally awesome, really interesting post, with one retarded spelling error in big bold letters.

9/10 (bc spelling counts, dude)

8/17/2008 9:43:16 AM

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"So go ahead. Get pissed at John Edwards. Tell him how much you hate him for making you believe in him only to be let down. Tell him how you always knew he was a fucking liar and you're glad he got called out on it. Tell him he's the scum of the earth and that he'll burn in hell. Tell him that he represents everything that's wrong with politics..."

no, you misunderestimate me.

im not personally offended by john edwards' cheating on his wife. i dont hate him because i believed in him and he let me down. I've never been a big supporter of his. the fact that he got elected Senator, and then with barely 2 years accomplished, was already spending time and money in presidential exploration... something wasn't right.

i hate him because he could have single-handedly destroyed the Democratic Party in 2008. he was hiding this shit during a his campaign for president. what if he won the nomination then this came out? or, more likely, what if Obama (or Clinton if she had won) had tapped him for VP, then this came out in October?

what a sonofabitch on all accounts.

and its just so much worse because he WAS a self-righteous motherfucker about the whole thing.

(1) he blasted Bill Clinton for damaging the Democratic Party for his affair

(2) he USED his dying wife as evidence of how much sacrifice he was willing to make for the GOOD OF THE NATION.

what a son of a bitch motherfucker.

what a cocksucking, lying, hypocritical, bastard.

He would have HANDED the presidency to John McCain on a golden platter.

Mark Foley tried to fuck teenage boys but the man was just an assclown Representative from backwater Florida. still, the democrats hauled him up on a crucifix and demanded the republicans drive in the nails. some might credit him as being the straw that broke the camel's back and lead to the Democratic Sweep of 2006.

now we're supposed to pretend that John Edwards, potential Presidential or VP candidate, ought to be left alone because his affair was his own business?

no fuck that.

Edwards should rightfully be excoriated.





[Edited on August 17, 2008 at 2:47 PM. Reason : ]

8/17/2008 2:44:45 PM

Quote :

" None of what you said is okay. It's wrong, completely wrong."

Okay? I didn't write that post b/c it was "okay." I don't endorse lewd, indecent, immoral or illegal transgressions from politicians. I wrote it b/c it's the fucking truth. You can debate the %'s of politicians that match my described profile, but calling it "wrong, completely wrong" means you are far too naive and/or ignorant for a serious discussion about our government.

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"Sex with children? Seriously?"

Replace 15 with 18 for the hooker's age. Happy?

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"i hate him because he could have single-handedly destroyed the Democratic Party in 2008... He would have HANDED the presidency to John McCain on a golden platter."

Yeah, I get that. I was speaking more to the run-of-the-mill outrage prevalent in the public, the media, and in this thread. In fairness to Edwards, he did drop out as soon as it was apparent that he was going to lose AND he tried his best to keep a low profile, including not endorsing either candidate and making virtually no public appearances...

... but yeah he could have easily fucked things up for the Dems far more than he already has...

8/17/2008 10:00:51 PM

okay, so he took care to not fuck up the Dem Party. great.

i guess he was just running in the primary so he could keep that "rock star feelin'" that was so contagious for him. i imagine scoring all that pussy was hard to quit.

8/18/2008 3:23:51 AM

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"Erios: Okay? I didn't write that post b/c it was "okay." I don't endorse lewd, indecent, immoral or illegal transgressions from politicians. I wrote it b/c it's the fucking truth. You can debate the %'s of politicians that match my described profile, but calling it "wrong, completely wrong" means you are far too naive and/or ignorant for a serious discussion about our government."

What was wrong, completely wrong, about your post is you behaving like child fuckers in office are some sort of inevitability that shouldn't "shock or outrage" us.

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"Erios: Replace 15 with 18 for the hooker's age. Happy?"

Yes, I'm fucking naive, ignorant, and overjoyed right now.

8/18/2008 4:51:26 AM

8/19/2008 2:40:21 PM

^

8/19/2008 2:44:30 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/08/26/elizabeth.edwards.ap/index.html

Interesting that she's no longer being treated as the victim... I have my own opinions, but they'll remain just that

8/26/2008 11:13:42 PM

EE is crazier than a shithouse rat, but it is still her business and it is pretty asinine for people to call her out on her personal decisions.

8/26/2008 11:16:18 PM

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"I was speaking more to the run-of-the-mill outrage prevalent in the public"

whoa now

his daddy was a mill worker

8/27/2008 9:16:29 AM

I think the quality of the cover-up really shows he was serious about his political ambitions.

I mean if he had not gone to the hotel he never would have gotten caught.

8/27/2008 11:18:02 AM

This story was being reported on Drudge and in the Enquirer long before he visited that hotel.

I remember people talking about it before he dropped out.

8/27/2008 11:21:21 AM

It had no legs before that visit to the hotel. It had pretty much dropped off the radar.

8/27/2008 11:31:49 AM

yeah, there was no evidence. there was no credible witness willing to talk to the media.

it was completely covered up, and would have remained so, had not an Enquirer reporter physically staked out the hotel.

8/27/2008 11:44:26 AM

yup, i give em kudos for staying on it

8/27/2008 12:02:11 PM

^

3/5/2009 3:10:39 PM

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/john_edwards_confesses_its_my_baby_rielle_hunter_elizabeth_edwards_disgrace_mistress_lovechild_nighline_presidential_elections/celebrity/66289

And it's back.......

what a shit show

3/5/2009 3:11:44 PM

edwards is such a rotten piece of shit. to think some people were mad at one point in time for him repudiating NCSU, to a degree at least. the one good thing he has done is solely associate himself with UNC.

[Edited on March 5, 2009 at 3:21 PM. Reason : .]

3/5/2009 3:19:13 PM

fucking dickbag

3/5/2009 4:02:23 PM