Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
protons do not have infinitely high speeds. 11/22/2009 8:12:42 PM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
the protons will reach speeds just shy of light which is infinately fast for the purpose of the analogy. 11/22/2009 8:19:15 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
"infinitely fast" means that the light would be traveling fast enough for it to be in all places in the universe at the same time. "just shy of the speed of light," while fast, is still massively slower than "infinitely fast." 11/22/2009 8:30:13 PM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
which is why it was an analogy. For cars, anything near the speed of light is comparable to "infinately fast" cmon people. its not that hard. (particle physics,not rocket science) 11/22/2009 8:35:15 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
the speed of light is a finite quantity. how is that comparable to INFINITE 11/22/2009 8:45:52 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
because she's making an analogy. that whole car thing really isn't working out for her, though. 11/22/2009 8:47:45 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
that's like saying Warp 1 and Warp 10 are comparable. HA! 11/22/2009 8:48:33 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
^ I was trying so hard not to make that comparison. 11/22/2009 8:49:45 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like life isn't working out too well for that mambalsr person 11/22/2009 9:09:10 PM |
CapnObvious All American 5057 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "because she's making an analogy trolling" |
11/23/2009 12:13:55 AM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
power went out today but it stayed at 1.9 kelvin. any updates on the time scale? 12/2/2009 7:59:41 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
making progress.
at what energy level do hypothesize they need to get to for a collision to make the higgs boson?
[Edited on December 9, 2009 at 5:13 PM. Reason : .] 12/9/2009 5:12:47 PM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
uncertain, likely somewhere between 3.5 and 7 Tev 12/9/2009 5:16:52 PM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
Still alive.
Sounds like the plan is to bring back online soon and run it at 7 TeV for an extended period of time (18 months or so), and then take it offline for an extended period of time to ramp up to 14 TeV.
I won't comment beyond that such a time-line brings initiating the 14 TeV stream right around December 2012
http://user.web.cern.ch/user/news/2010/100203.html 2/3/2010 1:08:32 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
BOOM!
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/science/03/30/large.hadron.collider/index.html?hpt=T1 3/30/2010 8:14:28 AM |
jcs1283 All American 694 Posts user info edit post |
and we are still alive! hallelujah! 3/30/2010 8:24:13 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
^prove it. 3/30/2010 8:29:30 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
they discovered a paleoparticle: http://user.web.cern.ch/user/news/2010/100401.html 4/1/2010 9:38:29 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
right. 4/1/2010 10:24:54 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
it's true! teh intarweb told me so. 4/1/2010 10:26:17 AM |
wishmewell All American 719 Posts user info edit post |
God particle signal is simulated as sound
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_environment/10385675.stm 6/23/2010 10:32:26 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder if they have a gift shop...i want to stop by when i'm there in a few months 6/24/2010 8:02:51 AM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
6/24/2010 8:37:38 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ but i want to get OFFICIAL LHC junk!
6/24/2010 9:06:43 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
but will it go "infinately fast" 6/28/2010 10:21:14 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^x5 Holy shit! That second one sounds a lot like the intro to the old Rod Serling TV show Night Gallery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9pToHSFdwk
6/28/2010 10:31:36 AM |
NCSUWolfy All American 12966 Posts user info edit post |
quagmire, they do have a gift shop. its not as cool as it should be, but its there 6/28/2010 6:11:42 PM |
meliorist New Recruit 26 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.atlas.ch/popupbook/index.html
ATLAS Pop-up book! 6/28/2010 7:30:29 PM |
qntmfred retired 40719 Posts user info edit post |
http://blogs.nature.com/news/2011/12/post_87.html
Quote : | "Europe’s particle physics laboratory, CERN, is taking a cautious approach on persistent rumors (see, for example, the ViXra blog) that two experiments at its Large Hadron Collider have independently found evidence for the Higgs particle with a mass of 125 GeV – right in the ballpark predicted by the standard model of particle physics.
The Higgs is a missing piece of the standard model thought to endow all other particles with mass. Detailed rumors at Peter Woit’s blog Not Even Wrong say that ATLAS has observed a signal of a Higgs particle at 125 GeV with a significance level of 3.5 sigma – with 3 being enough to claim evidence but 5 needed for a discovery, while CMS has seen one at 2.5 sigma. As Geoff Brumfiel’s article “Higgs Hunt Enters Endgame” reports, prior results from particle colliders have all but ruled out the Higgs in the range below 114GeV and above 141GeV.
Physicist Bill Murray, who is leading ATLAS’s search for the Higgs, tells Nature that he cannot comment on the latest rumors. That is because work is still in progress to analyze 5 inverse femtobarns of data that have amassed over the summer with a final decision to approve the current analysis scheduled for a meeting on Wednesday, December 7. Murray also notes that such approvals are often delayed. An additional level of management approval will also be necessary before the result can be released at a seminar scheduled for 13 December. "We are moving forward in our understanding of the data and approval process but nothing will be solidly releasable for a while," Murray says.
In an email to CERN staff reported on Lubos Motl’s blog, director-general of CERN, Rolf Heuer (pictured), appears to manage expectations, noting that a seminar scheduled on 13 December to release the results officially will be unlikely to reveal conclusive evidence for the Higgs particle. “These results will be based on the analysis of considerably more data than those presented at the Summer conferences, sufficient to make significant progress in the search for the Higgs boson, but not enough to make any conclusive statement on the existence or non-existence of the Higgs.” he says.
ViXra comments that a Higgs at 125Gev is good news for particle physics, because it is favored by supersymmetric models that would imply other, heavy particles may be found. A heavier Higgs would have shifted up the masses of those too high to be accessible by the LHC" |
12/4/2011 10:17:02 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Physicist Bill Murray," |
I stopped reading there.12/8/2011 8:24:58 PM |
GREEN JAY All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 8, 2011 at 9:45 PM. Reason : see]
12/8/2011 9:44:10 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53062 Posts user info edit post |
it's a boson! maybe 7/4/2012 6:48:34 PM |
ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
Well this surely proves there is no God. 7/4/2012 11:35:39 PM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
I watched a documentary on thing last night called Particle Fever, pretty cool movie. I fell asleep halfway through though. Has thing discovered anything mind blowing? The thread seems to have died. 12/1/2016 1:43:35 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
They're pretty sure they nailed down the Higgs boson. The criteria for mind-blowing probably is sensitive to your passion for particle physics. 12/1/2016 3:24:45 PM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
Yeh I'm sure that the discoveries mean more to somebody who is familiar with physics. Has the LHC been considered a success thus far, or have the discoveries been somewhat underwhelming to scientists? I know it hasn't changed my life. 12/1/2016 3:56:01 PM |