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FuhCtious
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I think this is total bullshit. I heard about the comments and think they are fucked up and reflect very poorly on our university, but the NAACP demanding that people be expelled over this is shit. If you get expelled for writing in the Free Expression Tunnel, then it really isn't the Free Expression Tunnel, it is the Accepted Speech Expression Tunnel. If it was in the middle of class or a dorm room, I could see a consequence, but sometimes the price you pay for allowing free expression is the potential that that speech could be extremely offensive.

I think that most of us who saw these comments had a similar response, that they reflected a point of view that was extremely narrow minded and extremely racist. However, anyone who has spent any time at NC State or in North Carolina knows that there are plenty of those views out there, whether they are applied to blacks, Asians, whites, or any group of people.

I also understand that there were threatening words involved, but unless the threat is both credible and realistic, I think it is a moot point. It's akin to telling someone in the heat of an argument that you'll kill them. (Oh, and P.S., the Student Senate is still clearly as pointless and shitty as it was when I was in school if this resolution is the shit they are putting forth. They need to stop wasting their time with 'words of condemnation' and focus on something that actually makes a difference.)

11/12/2008 7:53:04 PM

MaximaDrvr

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I'm here now, it was difficult to find a seat and I was actually here before the meeting started.

11/12/2008 7:53:31 PM

aaronburro
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so, remind me again who was "harassed?" An entire "community?" Are you out there ranting and raving when someone writes "i hate bitches" on the wall? Are you out there complaining when someone writes "kill whitey!" on it? Will you bitch and moan when someone rights "kelly is a whore?"

Face it. It was a couple of kids being douches. If you ignore it, it goes away and no one will give two shits about it.

11/12/2008 7:54:17 PM

BigEgo
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The first 23 4 speakers in the open floor section both about this bill.

^^the place is packed

[Edited on November 12, 2008 at 8:00 PM. Reason : add]

[Edited on November 12, 2008 at 8:02 PM. Reason : 3]

[Edited on November 12, 2008 at 8:05 PM. Reason : 4]

11/12/2008 7:59:48 PM

MaximaDrvr

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only one against it though.

11/12/2008 8:13:38 PM

WillemJoel
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I think the asses who did it are absolute pieces of shit, and deserve to be beaten by their peers.

but the NAACP getting involved is just a waste of fucking time, and retarded.

11/12/2008 8:16:58 PM

MaximaDrvr

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committee meetings are ongoing. We will get to the meat of this meeting soon.

11/12/2008 8:35:07 PM

WillemJoel
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GIVE US US UPDATES

11/12/2008 8:38:46 PM

Mulva
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Quote :
" Barack Obama made a call for nonviolence in the aftermath of the Sean Bell verdict - infuriating the Rev. Al Sharpton, who accused the presidential candidate of trying to "grandstand in front of white people," sources told The Post."

11/12/2008 8:40:23 PM

WillemJoel
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MLK was just trying to appease white people, too.



fuck I hate Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

11/12/2008 8:41:56 PM

SaabTurbo
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"It's akin to telling someone in the heat of an argument that you'll kill them."


I DON'T AGREE, IT'S LIKE TELLING SOMEONE IN AN ARGUMENT THAT "SOMEONE SHOULD KILL THEM."

I DO NOT RECALL HEARING THAT THEY WROTE "I AM GOING TO KILL OBAMA." I THOUGHT THEY WROTE SOMETHING LIKE "SHOOT THE NIG***."

11/12/2008 8:41:59 PM

MaximaDrvr

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one minute periods of pro and con on the bill, well mostly pro.

11/12/2008 8:54:56 PM

MaximaDrvr

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still ongoing. One minute intervals

11/12/2008 8:59:03 PM

MaximaDrvr

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we are at the first reading of legislation
Wolfpack Sports Car Act-committee
Student Veterans Support Act- fast track
Free expression tunnel hate crime act-fast track*objection
elections reform act-committee

[Edited on November 12, 2008 at 9:08 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2008 9:07:59 PM

pttyndal
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can i fast track my foot up their ass?

11/12/2008 9:09:00 PM

BigEgo
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roll call vote on the fast track of r36

11/12/2008 9:09:02 PM

MaximaDrvr

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roll call vote to determine if tunnel act is fast tracked

11/12/2008 9:09:15 PM

wdprice3
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"Campus police said hate crime charges will not be filed because no crime was committed."
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3913132/

11/12/2008 9:09:41 PM

BigEgo
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^^where are you right now in the chamber?

[Edited on November 12, 2008 at 9:10 PM. Reason : ^]

11/12/2008 9:10:05 PM

MaximaDrvr

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from the back door,
far right, wearing hat. Sitting in the chair in the isle



[Edited on November 12, 2008 at 9:12 PM. Reason : where are you]

11/12/2008 9:10:57 PM

MaximaDrvr

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Totals:
Yes-13
No-38

Sent to select committee

and the chamber is emptying.

[Edited on November 12, 2008 at 9:13 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2008 9:12:34 PM

BigEgo
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^look to your right for a guy in furthest right table toward the front and you'll see me.

r36 is sent to committee

11/12/2008 9:12:59 PM

pimpmaster69
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thank god we were able to send it to committee. Sorry I couldn't get on quicker my buddy was researching hate crime laws in case we had to go into debate.

We got some good amendments though we were gonna bring up

11/12/2008 9:16:28 PM

MaximaDrvr

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the university policy is on page 4.

11/12/2008 9:17:30 PM

WillemJoel
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so what does this mean

11/12/2008 9:19:31 PM

pimpmaster69
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If a bunch of minorities wrote something similar about Mccain we would have never been in the situation

11/12/2008 9:19:33 PM

pimpmaster69
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Big Ego where you at? I am by the flag

11/12/2008 9:20:35 PM

BigEgo
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from the door look to the right near the north carolina flag. the table closest to the right wall and the flag.

[Edited on November 12, 2008 at 9:24 PM. Reason : black jacket, grey shirt red tie]

11/12/2008 9:22:29 PM

pimpmaster69
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^^^it means it is referred to committee. They can edit it as they see fit. It will then be brought back to senate for second reading

11/12/2008 9:22:38 PM

Fry
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ironic that of all the things i saw there over 4 years at State... when Obama wins people really get their panties in a wad. they'll end up censoring the tunnel for select topics until the "Free Expression Tunnel" is little more than a frat and sorority announcement wall.

11/12/2008 9:25:18 PM

God
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Quote :
"If a bunch of minorities wrote something similar about Mccain we would have never been in the situation"


AND ON THAT MATTER, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A W.E.T.

WHITE PEOPLE HAVE IT SO BAD BLAHBLAHBL;AJSDLFKJSDF

11/12/2008 9:27:45 PM

pimpmaster69
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You beside Kristen?

11/12/2008 9:28:40 PM

MaximaDrvr

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God- quit trolling, its getting old

Now on to Veterans Support Act.

I will get back to you when I can on the Free Expression Tunnel Censorship bill.

11/12/2008 9:29:39 PM

pimpmaster69
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^^^W.E.T? whats that

11/12/2008 9:30:33 PM

Fry
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"White Entertainment Television"

11/12/2008 9:31:15 PM

BigEgo
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yeah

11/12/2008 9:31:55 PM

God
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The "if this had happened to Mccain" argument is bullshit.

Remind me how many times people were arrested for making serious threats against McCain.

Also, remind me about the history of McCain's racial ancestors being lynched in this state.

Thanks!

11/12/2008 9:33:25 PM

pimpmaster69
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We having fun yet Daryl?

11/12/2008 9:33:27 PM

MaximaDrvr

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haha, loads.

These speakers are killing me.
Though the trip might as well.

11/12/2008 9:34:09 PM

BigEgo
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i might have to go on that trip

11/12/2008 9:35:24 PM

Fry
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You're a terrible troll God

11/12/2008 9:35:36 PM

God
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If I was trolling I'd call you an idiot, idiot.

11/12/2008 9:36:20 PM

pimpmaster69
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If I didn't graduate in December or be in Mexico till the second I would probably go

11/12/2008 9:38:45 PM

MaximaDrvr

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I'll be in L.A. till the 29th, then D.C apperently.

11/12/2008 9:39:35 PM

BigEgo
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i think i can spare a little money and go.

battery is running out so i'm done till i get back sometime tonight.

[Edited on November 12, 2008 at 9:41 PM. Reason : a]

11/12/2008 9:40:18 PM

skankinande
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Quote :
"It's wrong, it's ugly, it's vile and it's not protected by freedom of speech.""


Uh yes it is.

11/12/2008 9:53:54 PM

MaximaDrvr

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There will be three or four committee meetings before the Senate meets again next Wednesday in order to propose and present a new draft of the act.

[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 12:29 AM. Reason : .]

11/13/2008 12:29:15 AM

aaronburro
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Quote :
"Also, remind me about the history of McCain's racial ancestors being lynched in this state.
"

Since when did we lynch arabs? Since when did we lynch whites? No one in NC ever lynched a "racial ancestor" of Barack Obama, because he has no "racial ancestors" that ever possibly lived in this state

11/13/2008 5:20:29 PM

jchill2
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So are we sure what exactly was written on the wall.

11/13/2008 5:26:57 PM

khcadwal
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oh, aaronburro. sometimes i hope you are trying to be too stupid for words

much love,
k

11/13/2008 5:30:33 PM

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