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"Let's say we made it a law: "Every citizen must have a handgun in the household." So, we'd have a decrease in "criminals taking advantage of people not having a gun." That's a good thing. but an increase of handgun accidents, kids shooting each other, people losing it over an altercation with a neighbor and starting a shootout, people losing their job and blowing their brains out. And, the police would obviously start carrying around submachine guns and whatnot, because they have to "be one step above the general population." And with the police knowing that now every single car they pull over will have an armed citizen in the driver's seat... They're going to be nice and calm when pulling someone over, aren't they? I'm sure that would end well."

man that's full of stupid.

Gun ownership is a choice, not a federal mandate, and should always be so.

Gun education & parenting takes care of #2
(kids kill themselves in cars everyday, should we ban cars?)

police already have to be on alert for people concealing weapons.

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"Ahh yes, more police. That's exactly what we all want, right?"

I have no problem with more cops. Maybe you do, if you're a criminal.

[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 12:35 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2008 12:34:21 PM

EXACTLY

11/10/2008 12:34:55 PM

according to God, if every house had a burglar alarm, that would cause regular law-abiding citizens to start breaking into houses a lot more

11/10/2008 12:35:05 PM

Quote :

"man that's full of stupid."

11/10/2008 12:35:18 PM

i think god is more retarded than lobotomized 2 year old downy

11/10/2008 12:35:25 PM

Goddamneddoofus

11/10/2008 12:36:06 PM

Quote :

"according to God, if every house had a burglar alarm, that would cause regular law-abiding citizens to start breaking into houses a lot more"

11/10/2008 12:36:08 PM

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"police already have to be on alert for people concealing weapons."

But, like in that Georgia town, if they knew that every citizen was going to have a handgun, would they be more or less "high strung" when pulling over a normal citizen?

^You can't kill someone with a burglar alarm. You can kill them with a gun.

[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 12:37 PM. Reason : ]

11/10/2008 12:36:09 PM

Uhh, when pulling people over, cops already act like everyone has a gun...

try it, go get pulled over today, reach under your seat, and then point at the officer. post in 10-20 when you get out and let us know how it went, if you survive.

11/10/2008 12:37:31 PM

"you guys" are assholes, my post was to actually use women that might be raped in their slogans

but youre right "fat ogre" women get raped savagely and left to die in a gutter's much more than attractive women. My bad.

11/10/2008 12:37:40 PM

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"But, like in that Georgia town, if they knew that every citizen was going to have a handgun, would they be more or less "high strung" when pulling over a normal citizen?"

NO NO NO, NOT EVERY CITIZEN MUST OWN A HANDGUN!!

THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE STATING THAT THEY MUST KEEP A GUN IN THEIR HOME, LIKE A LONG GUN. IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT THE OFFICIALS WOULD NOT ENFORCE IT. BUT THE OFFICIALS LIKED IT BECAUSE THE CRIME RATE (PARTICULARLY VIOLENT CRIME) WAS INCREDIBLY LOW, LIKE ALMOST ZERO, IN THEIR TOWN BTW.

11/10/2008 12:38:05 PM

Quote :

"You can't kill someone with a burglar alarm. You can kill them with a gun."

And you can't kill a 2nd amendment thread with all your bullshit fear mongering strawmen, no matter how much you try

11/10/2008 12:38:23 PM

Quote :

"LIKE A LONG GUN."

11/10/2008 12:38:39 PM

requiring people to own a gun is wrong in my opinion. it's a choice, should always be one

11/10/2008 12:38:43 PM

11/10/2008 12:40:09 PM

^^^ I DON'T GET IT.

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT A LONG GUN IS?


^ I AGREE, WE ARE BEATING OUR HEADS AGAINST THE KEYBOARD DUE TO YOUR INABILITY TO READ OR COMPREHEND STATEMENTS AND YOUR RIDICULOUSLY ARROGANT ATTITUDE. YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE FACTS AND INSTEAD INVENT HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS WHEN THERE IS PLENTY OF REAL EVIDENCE THAT OTHERS ARE BRINGING UP.

11/10/2008 12:41:19 PM

Of course he doesn't. All he knows about guns is that he's scared of them because he doesn't know anything about them except they are bad.

11/10/2008 12:42:12 PM

one of those assault weapons?

[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 12:42 PM. Reason : ]

11/10/2008 12:42:41 PM

wow, he's just trolling.




[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 12:43 PM. Reason : wrong clicky]

11/10/2008 12:43:06 PM

Anyone can cherry pick statistics, Sobturbo, but tell me why there are so many more gun deaths here than in foreign countries without as many guns?

11/10/2008 12:44:21 PM

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"STOP RESPONDING TO HIM, HE IS MAKING RIDICULOUS ARGUMENTS AND CLAIMS."

^ OH AND PLEASE DO TAKE A LITTLE TRIP OUT TO SOMALIA. THEN WE'LL TALK.

11/10/2008 12:44:23 PM

^

11/10/2008 12:44:45 PM

[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM. Reason : SHIT]

11/10/2008 12:46:21 PM

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"but youre right "fat ogre" women get raped savagely and left to die in a gutter's much more than attractive women. My bad."

i think you should turn off the TV and go live for a little


but then again i doubt it would matter to you since i can make a pretty strong inference that you could give two shits about the safety of women you do not find attractive

youre a piece of shit

[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 12:50 PM. Reason : d]

11/10/2008 12:49:59 PM

^x5 By your "logic," we should ban machetes and clubs, too--here it is again, douche.

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"Beginning on April 6, 1994 [in Rwanda], and for the next hundred days, up to 800,000 Tutsis were killed by Hutu militia using clubs and machetes, with as many as 10,000 killed each day."

http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/rwanda.htm




These must be banned, too.

[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 12:50 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2008 12:50:21 PM

If they have no use for citizens, then they should.

11/10/2008 12:51:02 PM

bombs, thrown rocks, and disease are far more effective than guns

at least the victims can fight back with their diseased spit

11/10/2008 12:52:18 PM

BAN EVERYTHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE USE AT THIS TIME.


THAT INCLUDES MANTYHOSE.

OUTLAW THE MANTYHOSE, CRIMINALS MIGHT BUY THEM AND PUT THEM OVER THEIR HEADS WHEN THEY ROB BANKS!!!

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"at least the victims can fight back with their diseased spit"

BUH BUH BUT THAT'S AGAINST THE GENEVA CONVENTION!!!!! BIOLOGICAL WARFARE AGENT!!!!! I'M GOING TO BAN ALL TYPES OF SPIT SON. I WILL START WITH OUTLAWING ASSAULT SPITTOONS, WHICH SHOULD MAKE PEOPLE LESS LIKELY TO SPIT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

11/10/2008 12:52:24 PM

Quote :

"If they have no use for citizens, then they should."

homosexuality has no real use. should we ban that too?

11/10/2008 12:53:07 PM

we really need to ban rocks

11/10/2008 12:53:08 PM

houses have no real use, should we ban those too?

11/10/2008 12:54:00 PM

Do you think that people should be allowed to carry Machetes?

11/10/2008 12:54:17 PM

YES, ACTUALLY.


DRUNK, ANGRY, DERANGED AND UNDERAGE (ETC) PEOPLE CAN GET IN A CAR AND KILL PEOPLE WITH THEM. WE NEED TO OUTLAW CARS RIGHT AWAY.

11/10/2008 12:55:00 PM

should people be allowed to wear clothes?

11/10/2008 12:55:01 PM

i have used a machete for work plenty of times

[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 12:55 PM. Reason : god is trolling hard]

11/10/2008 12:55:04 PM

11/10/2008 12:55:08 PM

i never learned anything by talking but here is my $ .02

less guns = less gun violence (DUUUHH)
less guns =/= less violence.

we do have the highest rate of gun related deaths than other countries. we also have some of the dumbest people (hell im one of them in certain aspects)

but i also think our judicial system is pretty lenient.
which is fine in my book too,
from my understanding, it's built on the premise that its better to let 9 guilty men free than send one innocent man to jail (of course thats not quoted or anything)

that being said im not comfortable with giving up my right to own a gun.



im not trying to argue with anyone.


just talkin....



[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 12:57 PM. Reason : tujyjh]

11/10/2008 12:55:25 PM

Quote :

"i have used a machete for work plenty of times"

I, too, have used a machete for work

11/10/2008 12:55:29 PM

hell, i've used them to get through briar patches when hunting and fishing

11/10/2008 12:56:09 PM

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"DRUNK, ANGRY, DERANGED AND UNDERAGE (ETC) PEOPLE CAN GET IN A CAR AND KILL PEOPLE WITH THEM. WE NEED TO OUTLAW CARS RIGHT AWAY. "

^^^ THE FIRST PART IS DEAD WRONG BITCH. THE SECOND PART IS DECENT THOUGH.

ANYWAY, WE NEED TO OUTLAW EM! OUTLAW EVERYTHING THAT God DOESN'T THINK PEOPLE NEED SON!!! IT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT TO OUTLAW ALL NEW TECHNOLOGY BEFORE ANYONE FINDS A USE FOR IT SON.

11/10/2008 12:56:09 PM

we don't need the Internet either. Let's ban it!

11/10/2008 12:56:45 PM

im guessing God is going to "miss" joie's post

which i thought was pretty good and rational

11/10/2008 12:59:29 PM

John Lott's research disagrees with you, Joie.

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"John Richard Lott Jr. (born May 8, 1958) is a senior research scientist at the University of Maryland, College Park, and has held research positions at numerous institutions, including the University of Chicago, Yale University, the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania, and the American Enterprise Institute. He holds a Ph.D. in economics from UCLA, and his research interests include econometrics, law and economics, public choice theory, industrial organization, public finance, microeconomics, labor economics, and environmental regulation. Lott is also a well-known author in both academia and in popular culture. He has published over 90 articles in peer-reviewed academic journals related to his research areas, and has authored five books, including More Guns, Less Crime, The Bias Against Guns, and Freedomnomics."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

11/10/2008 1:00:09 PM

I never said that, you did....
No where did I post about my concern or non-concern, nor did I voice if I wanted the guns or not.

I dont know, perhaps if they used women that look like real women, not ones that could beat the shit out a man for their slogans it would have a better result?

It’s like trying have one of those "feed the Africans" commercials and they use an overweight kid. You want support, be realistic and don't pick 6'5 200 pound women to demonstrate sympathy

11/10/2008 1:00:31 PM

because ugly fat women are never raped?

11/10/2008 1:01:37 PM

^^ DON'T RESPOND TO THIS CRAP, IT'S ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO SIDETRACK THIS SHIT.

11/10/2008 1:02:08 PM

I, too, have used a machete for work.

11/10/2008 1:04:05 PM

lol, there really are some dumbfucks in this world, haha. I never said that, you want people to vote to have guns right? Logically who would you pick as your woman on your slogan? Someone that could beat the shit out of a man without a gun, or a small girl that really would need the gun?

11/10/2008 1:05:28 PM

^^^^^none of those women look liek they could beat the shit out of a man to me


i dont know what the fuck you are even talking about dude, but when u say "OMG SO MANY MORE FAT OGRES GET RAPED THAN HOT CHICKS" basically implies that your threshold for fat ugly bitches getting raped is a lot higher than your threshold for hot chicks gettin raped...before you decide to be disturbed by it


its ok, you are the reason that eve carsons and nancy coopers are plastered all over the evening news and fat mexicans and 60 year old women are on the local section of the newspaper next to the damn classifieds...youre just doin your part i aint hatin

so yea, nothing about those women is intimidatiing...i think vonjordan sees a woman with a gun and is so frightened by it that he all of a sudden sees her as nothing short of 10 feet tall and 500 pounds of solid muscle. sounds like a good rape deterrent to me

[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 1:08 PM. Reason : d]

11/10/2008 1:06:20 PM

By your logic, responsible citizens should be allowed to drive tanks and carry grenade launchers.

Because grenade launchers don't kill people,

People kill people.

11/10/2008 1:08:14 PM