One of my favorite Vols ever

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" Al Wilson returning to Knoxville with a bang Ex-Vol transitions to sidelines with 'Camp Explosion' Former Tennessee and Denver Broncos star Al Wilson is finally taking a water break. But after 22 years of hard-nosed football, from his youth through UT's 1998 national title and five NFL Pro Bowls, the 31-year-old retired middle linebacker can only stay idle for so long. Thus, the hatching of the inaugural Al Wilson football "Camp Explosion" in Knoxville on July 9-12 at the Knox County Sports Park at 850 Oak Ridge Highway. "The way to give back to my fans and the youth in the community is to share my expertise and experience on the defensive side of the ball,'' said Wilson, who now resides in Atlanta. "This keeps me around the game of football.'' Tennessee fans remember few played the game better for the Vols than Wilson, whose effort, intensity and leadership spearheaded Tennessee's march to the 1998 national championship. Wilson has fond memories of the season, from his 13-tackle, three-forced fumble effort in UT's pivotal 20-17 OT win over Florida, to the one game he missed with a shoulder injury, a hard-fought 17-9 win at Auburn. "Yeah, for me not to play was very painful ... but the defense had its best game of the season without me on the field,'' Wilson said. "I was the biggest cheerleader on the sideline, and it was a tribute to the character they had.'' Indeed, Wilson stuck his head in the defensive huddles and gave instruction when the offense was on the field, and he jumped up and down waving a towel when the defense took the field. "I only had one arm,'' Wilson said. "I remember the trainer telling me, 'Al, you've got to stop jumping up and down.'" Wilson had already proved himself to his teammates. At the beginning of the 1998 season, Wilson declared 1998 Tennessee to be a team of no stars. "I remember that vividly,'' Wilson said. "Everything was based around Peyton (Manning, in 1997), and it was well deserved. But it took way from the team aspect of what we did prior to Peyton's senior year. "So as the leader of the team it was my opportunity to put the focus back on the team. To have a team of no stars that focused on winning games.'' Wilson walked the walk, too, rarely making himself available for media interviews. When he did speak, he made it clear to reporters it was mandated. "I don't want to talk to you (expletives),'' he said in one interview. "I hate the media.'' Wilson laughed when reminded of an early-season interview when he was asked about rising star tailback Jamal Lewis, then his roommate. "If I had stayed over on offense, you wouldn't even know who Jamal Lewis is right now,'' Wilson, also a running back at his Jackson, Tenn., high school, said in 1998. "Yeah, I used to tell Jamal that all the time,'' Wilson said between laughs. "But obviously he had a very special talent, and he was the best.'' Wilson could say those things because of the immense and unquestionable respect his teammates had for him. Former UT tight end Neil Johnson once said of Wilson: "Al Wilson was so tough, if he slapped your mother, you'd ask your mother what she did to deserve it.'' Wilson had heard that quote before, and it just makes him shake his head at his youthful days. "It's crazy, man, I look back on these things now that I'm older, and I say 'There's no way that could've been me,'" Wilson said. "When I'm on that football field, I'm a whole 'nother person. My mother has told me she doesn't recognize me on that field. She says, 'You're a crazy, young man out there.'" Wilson's former teammates will confirm it: There was no such thing as a non-contact drill if Wilson was involved. "Dang it Al, this is a non-contact drill! How many times do I have to tell you that!'' former UT defensive coordinator John Chavis yelled more than once during the 1998 practices. Wilson's Camp Explosion will feature non-contact work for children aged 9 to 13 and 14 to 18, with Wilson and other coaches providing instruction."

6/4/2009 3:30:04 AM

couldnt find a place to put this picture of Kansas' coach. so i put it here. i think its hilarious

6/4/2009 9:37:29 AM

jesus...did Kiff take the Butch Davis recruiting class since he has 187 offers out for next year

6/4/2009 11:05:11 AM

8 commitments for 2010 so far and a shitload of offers out there. However, the SEC just passed a rule that a school can only take 28 letters of intent per year so no more Ole Miss 37 player signing classes.

6/4/2009 11:18:45 AM

Kiffin is going to be on ESPN OTL Sunday... here is a preview (not much of one):

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4232023

6/4/2009 9:10:25 PM

SO....

during ESPN's taping of the OTL report on Tennessee and Kiffin, it shows Kiffin talking to a couple recruits. Bob Ley PROUDLY points out at the end of the peice that this is possibly another violation of NCAA rule.

will be waiting for the report later today.

Im tired of ESPN constantly bashing us.

6/7/2009 10:52:39 AM

the last time kiffin gave an interview on college football live they tried to make him commit a violation by asking him about marve

i didn't think the outside the lines piece wasn't bashing him or tennessee though

6/7/2009 11:06:58 AM

i didn't think it wasn't either.

6/7/2009 11:27:37 AM

OTL Link

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4238779

Nice of ESPN to facilitate the potential violation and then report on it before it is even determined if it is a violation. Nice ethics. Nothing quite as nice as creating the story yourself.

BTW, where is all the national outrage at UGA's secondary violations?

6/7/2009 2:33:27 PM

The school does not matter. If Kiffin was at Georgia instead of UT it would be the same backlash. The insiders on 99.9 put it best yesterday when they said people aren't mad at UT. People are upset because Lane Kiffin is making Al Davis look like a genius. What kind of world do we live in where Al Davis has actually made a smart decison.

6/9/2009 8:23:21 AM

^ I think the part about Georgia is his point...

6/9/2009 10:47:52 AM

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"Secondary Violations: The Kiffin Double-Standard June 8th, 2009 9:50 am ¦ Posted By: John Pennington ¦ Here’s a question for you: why are Lane Kiffin’s five (and possibly six) secondary violations bigger news than say Georgia’s or Auburn’s secondary violations? ESPN and regional writers continue to hold up Tennessee’s Kiffin as the poster boy for rule book ignorance while secondary violations occur at each and every school. Just last week Georgia self-reported three in their football program. And Auburn is under the spotlight for a couple of possible violations that occurred last week during their “Big Cat Weekend.” But while Kiffin is skewered, several Alabama writers went so far as to say (and I paraphrase), “who cares about meaningless secondary violations when the Tigers are getting the attention of top-notch recruits?” Of course, the same could be said for Kiffin and Tennessee. But it hasn’t been. At least not by ESPN or Southern sportswriters. Conclusions: 1. The deer that makes the most noise gets shot, as a hunting buddy of mine says. Kiffin came into the SEC and immediately accused Urban Meyer of breaking a rule… only to find out that what Kiffin thought was a rule, wasn’t. So folks are gunning for him because, in a sense, he asked for it. 2. That’s still BS, if you ask me. The media’s job — in my view — is to cover the action. A secondary violation from Kiffin shouldn’t count as MORE of a secondary violation than one committed by Gene Chizik simply because folks don’t like Kiffin. Unfortunately, that’s not how our media (or society) works. Example: Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens are surly, unpopular figures. Their denials of steroid use have been met with cries of perjury and further legal investigations. Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire were quite popular. Their denials of steroid use were laughed off, but there have been no further investigations into perjury or how they got their ‘roids. Lesson: If you’re a nice guy and you’re liked, you may well get a pass form the media. If you’re viewed as a jerk… forget it. And Kiffin is viewed by most media folks (and non-Tennessee fans) as a jerk. Fair or not — and it’s not — that’s why Kiffin’s secondary foibles are bigger news than everyone else’s secondary violations. "

6/9/2009 4:37:20 PM

So Lane Kiffin has 5 or 6 secondary violations. And the complaint from the fanbase is not "don't commit violations" or "let's not cheat". But instead they whine that UGA and Auburn don't get the bad press when they cheat. Interesting.

6/9/2009 5:51:36 PM

no, its more that this "cheating" goes on all the time at many many schools, and has for years, and now this one particular case is being highlighted for the simple fact that Kiffin is Kiffin

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"Maybe Auburn's "Big Cat Weekend" didn't violate any NCAA rules. Maybe it was completely unplanned that several of the nation's top football prospects went along with Auburn assis­tant coach Trooper Taylor to roll Toomer's Corner and they just happened to bump into 100 or so fans, police, media and the school mascot, "Au­bie," who cheered the recruits on as they were introduced to the crowd and threw rolls of toilet paper into that famous tree. But even if violations did occur, so what? Everyone seems to agree they would be secondary, not major. It means a little extra paperwork for the compliance people and maybe a little embarrass­ment for the coach or the school. Other than that, what's the big deal? That seems to be the attitude about NCAA secondary violations. Everybody has them. Schools report hun­dreds of secondary violations every year. Nobody seems overly concerned. Tennessee coach Lane Kif­fin, who has committed his share of secondary violations in his short tenure in Knox­ville, joked about it in Destin last week. When asked to comment on his recruiting, he said: "That would be another violation. I'm trying to go one week without that." At least one football-related secondary violation gets re­ported to the SEC every week. The NCAA enforcement staff generally believes that if a school doesn't report a mod­est number of secondary vio­lations, it probably isn't doing a good job of compliance en­forcement."

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"Doug Archie, OSU's associate athletics director for compliance and camps. "When the NCAA looks at a violation, it wants to see if it was intentional," Archie said. "If a coach does something wrong on purpose, we will get in trouble with the NCAA." Archie said the university usually has about 25 secondary violations each year. During 2007-08, OSU committed 13 level I and 11 level II violations. "We are twice the size of most universities, so having 25 or so violations is normal," Archie said."

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6/9/2009 6:45:42 PM

You're not helping your case by saying UT is no more crooked than Auburn and OSU.

It looks bad on a school to have secondary violations. Even worse when the AD in charge of compliance is complacent with it.

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6/9/2009 8:58:04 PM

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"Everybody has them."

6/9/2009 9:59:40 PM

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"If you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying"

6/9/2009 11:33:11 PM

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"Put plainly, Kiffin's been a lightning rod because ESPN has decided that Kiffin as a lightning rod of controversy sells really well. That doesn't mean there's not an element of truth to the characterization, but compare Kiffin's arrival and comments to Steve Spurrier in the early '90s. Kiffin is nowhere near what Spurrier was then. Yet Kiffin's received more media attention relative to his peers than Spurrier ever has. And he hasn't even won a college game yet. Look at the secondary violation issue. Last year, NCAA member institutions reported almost 4,000 of them, the bigger the program, the more likely the violations are to occur. In 2005-06 alone, Oklahoma reported 46. These secondary violations don't really matter. Yet each of Kiffin's has been covered as an individual story. But Lane Kiffin as a crazy, wild man sells. ESPN has branded him as such and every minor thing that Kiffin does, whether it's fire a strength and conditioning coach (seriously, that's a national story?) or allow ESPN's own cameras to film him speaking to recruits on Outside the Lines (oops, another violation) feeds that branding fire. "

6/9/2009 11:48:49 PM

here's the difference between Kiffin and the coaches of the other schools who also have secondary violations: Kiffin criticizes other coaches for secondary violations (when they weren't in fact committed) and the coaches of Oklahoma, OSU, Auburn, and Georgia don't (at least I haven't seen any evidence that they do). His hypocrisy is glaring and I don't see how you can deny that. If he had just committed the violations and done it quietly then NO ONE would give a shit. You attract attention and increased scrutiny when you run your mouth, especially when you haven't won a single game as a college head coach. Kiffin and UT's relationship with the media lately makes Fowler and NC State look like PR geniuses.

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6/10/2009 1:00:33 AM

^^Are you getting all your quotes off some UT blog? B/c none of them are attributed.

Kiffin is embarrassing UT. I know its hard to embarrass that fan base. The fans seem to be ok with the lack of ethics by a coach who runs his mouth and acts like a 5th grader.

This is exactly why I love TOB.

6/10/2009 10:27:38 AM

Good video from the OL/DL camp from last week in Knoxville that shows some good prospects.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/AMP-OL-shine-at-Vols-camp-50516

6/10/2009 1:37:23 PM

^^^ except Kiffin doesnt care what other teams and coaches think (even though he only called Meyer out and it was only once, and Spurrier did the same thing to Kiffin) and is completely playing the media for what he wants... attention.


I totally agree that if he was at another school I would hate him, but that is exactly what he is trying for... Florida wouldnt even be discussing Tennessee this off season otherwise, but because of what Kiffin is doing you hardly hear a word about Florida without then hearing about UT in the next sentence.

6/10/2009 2:06:57 PM

What? I think you are confusing UT with Tebow. Without hearing Tebow in the next sentence.

6/10/2009 2:12:29 PM

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"and is completely playing the media for what he wants... attention."

ahh the old "any publicity is good publicity" nonsense, good luck with that when the NCAA comes investigating. You can spew whatever rationalizations you want about Kiffin and his big mouth, but his blatant hypocrisy isn't going to help you get back on top.

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"Florida wouldnt even be discussing Tennessee this off season otherwise"

haha, I don't see how you can view that as a good thing, they're just going to embarrass you worse when y'all play this season (and next, and the one after that). Florida is going to be better than Tennessee for the foreseeable future, so the smart thing to do would be to not taunt them. I realize you get some sort of lame moral victory out of taunting your rivals but I doubt the UT fanbase will give much of a shit about that when Florida hangs 60 on you.

6/10/2009 2:37:15 PM

I keep hearing this "just wait until florida hangs 60 on you guys" and it's bullshit. Florida won the NC last year and didn't "hang 60" on UT and that was one of the worst UT teams in history. Again, will florida beat UT? Yes, 95% sure that they will win and easily. But, it isn't going to be a 59 to 3 type game. And, what is the difference if florida wins by 17 or 45. A loss is a loss. Right now UT needs recruits and Kiffin has decided that getting recruits means UT needs publicity. So, that's what he is doing... getting publicity.

6/10/2009 3:00:34 PM

just another troll that thinks florida can hang 60 points on Monte Kiffin's defense.

6/10/2009 3:00:34 PM

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" good luck with that when the NCAA comes investigating"

yeah, except they won't, not over anything that's happened so far. Like Jaybee is saying, every school commits infractions. It happens everywhere. A lot. It's really not that big of a deal unless you're giving recruits money.

Fog machine? no problem.

intros in the stadium? no problem.

recruits present with the media? no problem.

I tend to agree that all this publicity is working in his favor, i mean, shit, did you not see how he absolutely dominated recruiting in the month and a half he had to finish up the most recent class? I think you'd be hard pressed to find any D-1 prospect who doesn't know who Lane Kiffin is.

6/10/2009 3:13:59 PM

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"I keep hearing this "just wait until florida hangs 60 on you guys" and it's bullshit. Florida won the NC last year and didn't "hang 60" on UT and that was one of the worst UT teams in history."

Fulmer also didn't talk a bunch of shit about Florida before they played either, that's the difference as far as I'm concerned.

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"And, what is the difference if florida wins by 17 or 45. A loss is a loss."

one is respectable and the other is embarrassing, that's the difference.

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"Right now UT needs recruits and Kiffin has decided that getting recruits means UT needs publicity. So, that's what he is doing... getting publicity"

aha, the same old "any publicity is good publicity" excuse. You don't have to commit recruiting violations IN FRONT of ESPN cameras, and make up recruiting violations that didn't actually happen to get publicity. I would understand having faith in this guy if he had actually done something as a head coach, either in the NFL or college but he hasn't so it just seems like blind optimism to me.

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"just another troll that thinks florida can hang 60 points on Monte Kiffin's defense."

good one, I'm sure plugging in a great DC is going to completely mask their lack of talent on defense (aside from Eric Berry of course) in the SEC. Their defense will be pretty good in a few years, but you can't just upgrade the coaching and expect an immediate turn around, you've got to upgrade the talent too.

6/10/2009 3:14:08 PM

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"You don't have to commit recruiting violations IN FRONT of ESPN cameras"

um, but if you do, then you're being run on ESPN nonstop. even more exposure.

you're not much of a critical thinker, are you?

6/10/2009 3:17:23 PM

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"um, but if you do, then you're being run on ESPN nonstop. even more exposure."

it gets you publicity sure, but not GOOD publicity, you're not much of a reader are you? The point I've been arguing is that being portrayed in a negative light constantly on ESPN might not be the best strategy for recruiting. They could be out there doing positive stuff in the community and get good publicity out of that, but that's not what Kiffin is doing. All of you are assuming that Tennessee football being on ESPN, even if it is for something negative is going to be a boon for recruiting and I don't think that is necessarily true. Florida State being on ESPN because of their cheating scandal and appeal to the NCAA doesn't seem like it's helping their recruiting at all.

6/10/2009 3:32:12 PM

there is no good or bad publicity to 17 year old kids

and that's really all that matters to kiffin right now

6/10/2009 3:33:45 PM

^^ all that horrible publicity you speak of led to a first year head coach that is inheriting a 5-7 team getting a top 10 recruiting class

6/10/2009 3:39:25 PM

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"there is no good or bad publicity to 17 year old kids"

If you think 17 year old kids are impressionable enough to be impacted simply by seeing Tennessee on ESPN then why wouldn't they be impressionable enough to think of Tennessee in a less than flattering manner because of the content of the stories on ESPN.

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"all that horrible publicity you speak of led to a first year head coach that is inheriting a 5-7 team getting a top 10 recruiting class"

I'm not sure about the timeline here, but I think a lot of the stuff about Kiffin and recruiting violations came out AFTER that class was signed. I think the calling out Urban Meyer thing did happen before the spring signing period, but the rest came after I believe.

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6/10/2009 3:40:29 PM

^^^ exactly... this isnt the 1950s Leave it to Beaver shit..."oh garsh Mr. Wilkins, they had a smoke machine and a video running on the jumbrotron and thats against the rules!!! I am taking my talent elsewhere!"

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"good luck with that when the NCAA comes investigating."

investigating what? the same thing that every other school does?

^ what?? because they arent at all the same thing, they probably see it and like 99% of college football fans think "wtf?? thats against the rules? thats stupid"... and ^^ exactly, came in and within 2-3 months put together a top 10 class with the top player in the country when TN wasnt even mentioned with him to begin with...


and you dont know shit about football, especially the SEC... if Florida (or any other SEC outside of a Fulmer coached team ironically) can put up 50 on anyone, they will, it doesnt matter what was or wasnt said about them beforehand, this isnt school yard football. Florida will try just as hard no matter what Kiffin or anyone else says.



[Edited on June 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM. Reason : you have to be trolling, no one is this dumb]

6/10/2009 3:41:52 PM

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"good one, I'm sure plugging in a great DC is going to completely mask their lack of talent on defense (aside from Eric Berry of course) in the SEC. Their defense will be pretty good in a few years, but you can't just upgrade the coaching and expect an immediate turn around, you've got to upgrade the talent too."

hmm... plugging a big time DC would not solve the problem if you didnt have the personnel... I t also doesnt suprise me that the only name you can pick out of thin air is Eric Berry.

you must really know your shit.

Last year Tennessee was ranked as follows for defense:

rushing defense: national rank 12, conference rank 3
passing defense: national rank 4, conference rank 2
total defense: national rank T-3, conference rank 1




...offense was a totally different story, one of the worst in the country.

6/10/2009 4:10:06 PM

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"this isnt the 1950s Leave it to Beaver shit..."oh garsh Mr. Wilkins, they had a smoke machine and a video running on the jumbrotron and thats against the rules!!! I am taking my talent elsewhere!" "

if that's all the secondary violations were then I guess it might not really rub any recruits the wrong way, I was under the impression that they were less innocuous (probably because of the media attention).

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"came in and within 2-3 months put together a top 10 class with the top player in the country when TN wasnt even mentioned with him to begin with..."

correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't most of the secondary violation stuff come out after they had already put together the class?

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"and you dont know shit about football, especially the SEC... if Florida (or any other SEC outside of a Fulmer coached team ironically) can put up 50 on anyone, they will, it doesnt matter what was or wasnt said about them beforehand, this isnt school yard football. Florida will try just as hard no matter what Kiffin or anyone else says."

Do you really not understand that Meyer is going to use that to motivate his team even more against a rival who hasn't been particularly competitive of late? If this were Georgia or LSU then I wouldn't think it would matter because there's plenty of motivation to beat them already, and they're good enough that the players wouldn't take them for granted. Tennessee is a different story, the Florida players probably think they could beat Tennesee in their sleep (and they probably could). Bill Belichick uses stuff like this all the time to motivate his players, I don't see how this is such an alien or ridiculous concept to you.

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"Last year Tennessee was ranked as follows for defense: rushing defense: national rank 12, conference rank 3 passing defense: national rank 4, conference rank 2 total defense: national rank T-3, conference rank 1"

yeah, and they also return only 6 starters from that defense...so what's your point?

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6/10/2009 4:11:12 PM

^ no, they dont... and Meyer is a smart coach, he wouldnt let them think that no matter what Kiffin did or didnt say.


yes, the secondary violations were that petty. And the timeline doesnt matter, I doubt any of the recruits would have backed out if they had occurred before they signed.


and as he said, ^^, defense isnt the concern at all

6/10/2009 4:16:55 PM

So you think because we return ONLY 6 starters, with one of the best defensive minds in football running the defense, and a top 10 recruiting class. ALL OF A SUDDEN the defense will be bad enough to let florida hang 60+ on one of the best defenses IN THE COUNTRY this year?

again, you're either retarded, or trolling. either way, I'm done listening to your uninformed garbage.

6/10/2009 4:18:20 PM

fuck i hate tww and 10 minutes belated posting

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6/10/2009 4:21:21 PM

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"no, they dont... and Meyer is a smart coach, he wouldnt let them think that no matter what Kiffin did or didnt say"

oh ok, well if you say it's true

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"And the timeline doesnt matter, I doubt any of the recruits would have backed out if they had occurred before they signed."

the Timeline only matters because someone earlier said that they signed the class BECAUSE of the publicity about the violations

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"So you think because we return ONLY 6 starters, with one of the best defensive minds in football running the defense, and a top 10 recruiting class. ALL OF A SUDDEN the defense will be bad enough to let florida hang 60+ on one of the best defenses IN THE COUNTRY this year?"

well they scored 30 on you last year with the best defense in the conference, and I don't see how the defense will be anything but worse this year with only 6 returning starters, and I wouldn't think many of the incoming freshman are going to play huge minutes this year anways. They scored 50 on LSU last year, and I have a hard time believing y'all will be better than they were.

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6/10/2009 4:27:12 PM

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"if that's all the secondary violations were then I guess it might not really rub any recruits the wrong way, I was under the impression that they were less innocuous (probably because of the media attention)."

Mentioned Bryce Brown's name once in a radio interview where Kiffin said "...great players like Terrill Pryor and Bryce Brown." An athletic department information assistant sent a message out on Twitter (w/o checking with the compliane officer) stating that it was a good day to be a Vol because UT received a commitment from J.C.Copeland. A smoke machine was used durung a recruiting weekend. There was a "simulated press conference" during a recruiting weekend. And, 10 seconds of video footage was shown on ESPN of Kiffin sitting on a couch making small talk with a recruit and his Dad.

These are all pretty much petty, don't you think? With the attention Kiffin is recieving, you would think that Kiffin was buying houses for the kid's parents and personally taking the SAT for these guys.

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6/10/2009 4:31:25 PM

^^ because the offense couldnt do crap against them and had 3 turnovers which led to easy Florida points.


and I dont think anyone said the recruiting class happened because of the violations but instead because they are great recruiters as well as any attention the program gained

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6/10/2009 4:34:11 PM

god dammit, fix this nonworking bullshit site

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6/10/2009 4:34:11 PM

this thread is making my giny tingle

6/10/2009 4:35:19 PM

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"These are all pretty much petty, don't you think? With the attention Kiffin is recieving, you would think that Kiffin was buying houses for the kid's parents and personally taking the SAT for these guys."

It does seem petty I agree, but at the same time I don't see how you are going to accuse another coach of committing a secondary violation when you yourself have committed a number of them. That's probably part of why they have gotten so much attention but certainly doesn't completely explain it at all.

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"because the offense couldnt do crap against them and had 3 turnovers which led to easy Florida points."

Isn't Crompton still the QB though?

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"and I dont think anyone said the recruiting class happened because of the violations"

the dude pretty much directly stated that the bad publicity was the cause of Kiffin signing the top ten class

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6/10/2009 4:35:34 PM

^ he said it at a alumni/booster pep rally type thing just to get the crowd going...

6/10/2009 4:36:44 PM

new poll on ESPN... hillarious.

armorfrsleep must be from a red state

6/10/2009 4:39:52 PM

hhahaha

6/10/2009 4:42:05 PM

^^What is Montana's problem?

Bunch of dicks!

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6/10/2009 4:42:46 PM

set payton manning up

6/10/2009 10:39:59 PM