elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Can you successfully complete a barrel roll in a boeing A330?" |
Under normal conditions, not legally.
Quote : | "Have you ever received a surface weather observation that wasn't automated (Level C & D airports) and gone "wtf?" because it was totally different than what you were flying through?" |
Probably. 6/24/2010 8:56:25 PM
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ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
Would the FAA listen to the NPS at all about altering flight paths?
Camping in a national park and hearing the roar of jets is about as right as zombie MJ raping pediatric cancer patients ![](images/mad.gif) 6/24/2010 9:39:16 PM
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Big4Country All American 11919 Posts user info edit post |
Can you get laid off again and come back to Raleigh, so that I can keep our soccer team going since Rich, his brother, Ben, and maybe Dan are quiting to form their own team. I guess I really did piss Rich off. 6/24/2010 9:48:17 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
^^ My guess is that the Airlines lobby harder than any representative of our nations parks, so...
No.
^ No, but I will possibly think about starting up Sporting San Juan in the Puerto Rican beach soccer league. 6/24/2010 11:22:25 PM
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Big4Country All American 11919 Posts user info edit post |
^That's a good idea. It will be interesting if Will and Rich can get a spot for their summer heat team in the Open C Division and I can keep my team together. That's just asking for a brawl when we pwnt them on the field. 6/24/2010 11:40:44 PM
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Kickstand All American 11739 Posts user info edit post |
What is the little slide door on a turbine for that opens up immediately as a plane lands? I think the plane is a Boeing 737. It is near the front of the turbine. To me it looks like a heat shield letting off exhaust. There are ceramic looking fins right under the little door. Just wondering. It always amazes me how they land and then the door opens for a few seconds and then goes back closed. 6/24/2010 11:52:51 PM
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bmel l3md 11149 Posts user info edit post |
Can I have one of your "free flights" to go to Europe?
Sincerely, bmel 6/24/2010 11:54:39 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
Doesn't quite work like that, but...
the good news for you is that the price of an average airline ticket is so discounted to the point that it doesn't recoup costs and thus the entire industry in a perpetually crumbling state.
So you have that going for you. 6/25/2010 12:03:50 AM
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bmel l3md 11149 Posts user info edit post |
what if.... I show you my boobs? 6/25/2010 12:05:44 AM
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moron All American 34452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What is the little slide door on a turbine for that opens up immediately as a plane lands? I think the plane is a Boeing 737. It is near the front of the turbine. To me it looks like a heat shield letting off exhaust. There are ceramic looking fins right under the little door. Just wondering. It always amazes me how they land and then the door opens for a few seconds and then goes back closed. " |
I always thought that was the air-brake deploying...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LESrGVSNYWs
[Edited on June 25, 2010 at 12:09 AM. Reason : ] 6/25/2010 12:07:11 AM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What is the little slide door on a turbine for that opens up immediately as a plane lands? I think the plane is a Boeing 737. It is near the front of the turbine. To me it looks like a heat shield letting off exhaust. There are ceramic looking fins right under the little door. Just wondering. It always amazes me how they land and then the door opens for a few seconds and then goes back closed." |
I'm not sure I know what you're referring to, but I think it's this:
![](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2460613092_5489fda028.jpg)
If so, it's how the engine creates reverse thrust to assist in slowing the aircraft
Quote : | "what if.... I show you my boobs?" |
I'll take a look, but I still can't get you to Europe.
On a related note I am told if we honk the horn (yes, this bird has a horn) we get free shows here:
![](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3510/3968082628_662df9a543.jpg)
[Edited on June 25, 2010 at 12:21 AM. Reason : .] 6/25/2010 12:12:34 AM
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Kickstand All American 11739 Posts user info edit post |
yep. that's it, alright. 6/25/2010 2:30:22 AM
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Big4Country All American 11919 Posts user info edit post |
So how many people do you think will quit our TASL team from the spring? 7/27/2010 3:15:22 PM
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Fhqwhgads Fuckwads SS '15 20681 Posts user info edit post |
My mom owns a travel agency.
Can I get free tickets now? 7/27/2010 3:30:52 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
You get better tickets than me. I fly standby.
Do travel agents still exist? Seems like it would be an incredibly difficult business in the internet age. 7/28/2010 1:46:05 AM
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jlcoburn All American 887 Posts user info edit post |
I got one for ya... can you hover? ![](images/biggrin.gif) 7/28/2010 5:20:34 PM
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Fhqwhgads Fuckwads SS '15 20681 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You get better tickets than me. I fly standby.
Do travel agents still exist? Seems like it would be an incredibly difficult business in the internet age." |
Yeah, we do mostly corporate travel and most NCSU departments. GO WOLFPACK
We do have a good vacation department.
Travel agents don't get the deals on tickets that they used to. If my mom wants to go somewhere, she pretty much has to pay the same price as a non travel agent. 7/28/2010 5:23:30 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
^Word. I naively dismissed large scale business/org travel.
^^ You got me there, whirlybitch. Come down to Puerto Rico. 7/29/2010 6:12:15 PM
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ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
Would you have fun flying a 19 person puddle jumper over the rockies? 7/29/2010 6:17:07 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89873 Posts user info edit post |
How often do you find yourself flying in non-radar CCA's? 7/29/2010 6:18:54 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
^^If it pays more than my current job, then yes.
^ I don't know what a CCA is, but we're in non-radar environments a lot of the time down here. If that's what you were asking. 7/29/2010 10:04:26 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89873 Posts user info edit post |
Common Clearance Area 7/29/2010 10:05:19 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
Never heard of it. Is that a military thing? 7/29/2010 10:27:02 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89873 Posts user info edit post |
Not exclusively, no.
It would be a clearance area around an airport, or around a cluster of ATC centers where clearances would need to be issued to pilots flying non-radar while either departing or arriving.
I guess it's more of an ATC term. 7/29/2010 10:31:00 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
I guess, but I don't understand who that would apply to.
For example, when flying from US airspace (Puerto Rico) across into French airspace (Martinique) we fly non-radar until we are ident'd terminally by their approach controller. As a scheduled airline our clearance is established on the ground in San Juan. The clearance limit for us is almost always the destination airport. Therefore, even in the event of two way communications failure, we're still authorized to the destination. 7/29/2010 11:01:07 PM
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Chop All American 6271 Posts user info edit post |
how do they decide on which one of these to use? And while we're at it, do they have something similar that shows holding patterns for circling the city while waiting to land? (i don't know entirely what i'm looking at, but i like trying to decipher it )
http://flightaware.com/resources/airport/ATL/DP/BRAVS+FIVE+%28RNAV%29/pdf 7/29/2010 11:14:25 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
What you're looking at is a Standard Instrument Departure or Departure Procedure (SID/DP). It's used to standardize the routes of outbound traffic at the airport to ease congestion and the assignment of clearances. This particular one is more specifically an RNAV departure, which are generally used by turbojet aircraft. They are assigned with your clearance by ATC. At larger airports, there can be up to 20ish of these things. Which one you get is decided by direction of flight and traffic considerations.
You don't see any published holding patterns because there would rarely be any use for them during departure. What you are looking for is a Standard Terminal Arrival Route (STAR).
Here's an example of one with published holds:
http://www.airnav.com/depart?http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/1008/00610CAMRN.PDF
That'll be $2.50 for 5 minutes of work at my instructor rate of $30/hr. ![](images/beatup.gif) 7/29/2010 11:40:10 PM
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ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
why are the seats for flight attendants called jump seats? 8/19/2010 9:33:04 PM
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theDuke866 All American 52895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My guess is that the Airlines lobby harder than any representative of our nations parks, so...
No." |
that, and airlines run on razor-thin profit margins, and will go to great lengths to save fuel...plus, if they're up at altitude cruising, you aren't going to hear them anyway. 8/19/2010 9:37:02 PM
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ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
...Clearly, they're not at that altitude yet then ![](images/tongue.gif)
(RMNP is not far at all from Denver.) 8/19/2010 9:38:03 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
They're not specifically flight attendant seats, but seats not used by the required crew. Some aircraft just happen to have extra flight attendant seats, i.e. flight attendant jumpseats. There is also generally at least one jumpseat in the cockpit, depending on the size of the aircraft.
Quote : | "and airlines are run on razor-thin profit margins poorly, often without profit" |
fixed it for ya
[Edited on August 19, 2010 at 9:42 PM. Reason : .] 8/19/2010 9:39:52 PM
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shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
What is the most expensive item that first class passengers can request? (I assume alcohol, but if so, what kind?) 8/19/2010 9:42:26 PM
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ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
^^I like how you actually didn't answer my question ![](images/tongue.gif) 8/19/2010 9:45:56 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
^^A mojito or hand job.
I think they're about the same price.
Nah, jk, alcohol is free in first, so I don't understand question.
Not like I would know, my new ride has no first class and I rarely ride it due to our shitty pass policy. ![](images/mad.gif)
^^wat?
I thought I did answer. Flight attendant seats aren't necessarily jumpseats. Jump seats probably got their name because they are often used by off duty crew to "jump" on a flight to get home/work/etc. That's just a guess though.
[Edited on August 19, 2010 at 9:51 PM. Reason : .] 8/19/2010 9:47:23 PM
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theDuke866 All American 52895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Have you ever received a surface weather observation that wasn't automated (Level C & D airports) and gone "wtf?" because it was totally different than what you were flying through?" |
Shit, I went missed approach the other day after coming in for the break (overhead) in VMC conditions...there were clouds and fog at, like, <1000 over half the airport, but the reporting station at the other end was seeing something like "few @ 15k" or something. We brought up the ILS late in the game to try to salvage it, but we were too far off, and might've been below mins at the MAP anyway.
We thought about exiting the pattern and bringing it back around for an ILS, but once we waved off, we had sight of the runway again and figured we didn't want to give that up as long as we could maintain it. we flew a tight box (huh huh, huh huh) pattern around the field and brought it in with a big play for the runway on short final, with the pilot 100% outside, in about a 45 degree AOB, and me padlocked on the airspeed and AOA. We landed about 3,000' down the runway (which has minefields at the ends, and maybe in some places on the sides?)
Only time I've ever gone missed, and probably the most uncomfortable I've ever been in an airplane, other than maybe landing on the boat at night with a new pilot.
Oh, and the way that we lost sight of the field the first time is because, when we were abeam, tower told us to continue downwind and they'd call our turn to base. Well, they got overtasked and apparently forgot, and let us go for several miles. Once we knew that we were approaching mountains (Bagram AB is in a basin), we told tower that we were turning inbound.
Then, after we waived off and were on a left downwind for our reattempt (again, pretty much abeam), a King Air announced that they were on a left base. Tower queried their DME, and they replied "0.5". I yelled "SHIT", we frantically looked around for an aircraft we believed to be a few hundred feet away, in the clouds, and headed toward us...then they stated their altitude, which was something like "overhead the field, FL200". Idiots...why in the hell would you say you were on "base" at 20-something thousand feet?
[Edited on August 19, 2010 at 9:52 PM. Reason : ] 8/19/2010 9:51:08 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
lol
I'd have liked to see their final with a base turn at FL200. 8/19/2010 10:02:32 PM
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MATCH Veteran 446 Posts user info edit post |
Ever seen this bird?
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[Edited on August 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM. Reason : .] 8/19/2010 10:30:32 PM
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shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^A mojito or hand job.
I think they're about the same price.
Nah, jk, alcohol is free in first, so I don't understand question.
Not like I would know, my new ride has no first class and I rarely ride it due to our shitty pass policy" |
Haha, I guess what I meant was:
What free item(s) can be requested by a passenger that costs the airlines the most? I mean, those cookies that the airlines give out cost them like 10 cents a bag... I'm sure alcohol isn't that much more... 8/19/2010 10:35:07 PM
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theDuke866 All American 52895 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yep, that's "Pedro". They park right beside us back at CP.
Quote : | " I'd have liked to see their final with a base turn at FL200." |
haha, back at Al Asad, Iraq, we'd bring it back home at FL 200 (or higher), then do an inverted pull down to probably 70 degrees nose down at a ~6 mile initial...scoop it out at the bottom, hitting our minimum dive recovery gates, then break at 500-550 knots, with the gear getting down and locked as we turned final.
...but yeah, they probably would've had an awfully hard time making that descent and final in a King Air. ![](images/beatup.gif) 8/19/2010 10:41:35 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Nope.
^^ Yeah I don't know, it would have to be the alcohol. Longer flights there is meal service, but I'm pretty sure they got their money's worth if you're in first. You probably couldn't drink them into the red. I've always gotten pretty stiff drinks on flights, it's not like they're hiding the stuff.
^ Yeah, I bet that little maneuver is outside of the King Air's limitations. But it sounds fun as hell.
[Edited on August 19, 2010 at 10:47 PM. Reason : .] 8/19/2010 10:43:38 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
![](photos/00517017.jpG)
Here's a photo I took from my iPhone at St. Kitts last week. I thought it was pretty cool. It was just starting to rain over the hills.
8/20/2010 5:03:56 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89873 Posts user info edit post |
When was the last time you kicked someone off of your plane? Why? 8/20/2010 5:27:24 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
We rarely ever have to deal with that, even the flight attendants can't really kick anyone off the plane. If there's an unruly passenger and we're still at the gate they usually let us know and we relay the info to a Customer Service Agent, or someone with a similar title. The only time we'd get called into action would be some kind of threat in the air or taxiing, in which case the captain would have to make a decision to divert, which would be rare, or continue.
I vaguely remember a guy reeking of alcohol that I think they removed, that was about a year ago. I remember a few jerks, but no one that threatened the safety of any flight attendant, passenger, or flight, which would ultimately be the main reason to get thrown off.
About a month ago jumpseating home, there was a passenger who puked and then passed out during descent. She came to on the way down though and we had paramedics waiting at the gate. Also, while boarding an incoming flight I was taking out in Dallas about three weeks ago there was a passenger that pissed herself. I guess that's not really related to your question, but I thought it was pretty WTF. 8/20/2010 5:41:03 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89873 Posts user info edit post |
Oh word. Thx for answering.
Would you describe the shape of the flight levels as an upside-down wedding cake? 8/20/2010 5:48:25 PM
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elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
hahhaah, if you mean controlled airspace, then yes, that would be a valid analogy, sir.
![](http://www.learntoflytoday.net/hebrew/images/briefing%20pics/airspace/airspace.gif)
And don't they look delicious.
[Edited on August 20, 2010 at 5:52 PM. Reason : .] 8/20/2010 5:50:52 PM
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Gonzo18 All American 2240 Posts user info edit post |
you mean classes of airspace? fl is just an altitude 8/20/2010 5:52:15 PM
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synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
http://flightclub.jalopnik.com/do-pilots-hook-up-with-flight-attendants-an-airline-pi-1576350394/+sarah-hedgecock 5/15/2014 12:04:43 AM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
i read the article just for that? LAME-0 5/15/2014 10:14:51 AM
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