TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Lol at the Tebow hate. Hasn't thrown a NFL pass and you are already hating." |
Have you followed the Senior Bowl and combines at all? He got exposed for what he is. A COLLEGE QUARTERBACK. Sure he can come in some plays and run the ball. But if you think he's getting anywhere near the positive evaluations as an NFL prospect, you haven't been paying attention to the news.3/5/2010 3:02:43 AM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
Down goes Kemo 3/5/2010 7:37:29 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
tis a glorious day 3/5/2010 7:57:09 AM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
making a news splash in first hours of free agency?
shocking. 3/5/2010 8:10:30 AM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
this is the best panthers free agent season in recent history and its not even finished 3/5/2010 8:16:13 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
4 new starters across the defensive line in John Fox's "make or break" year
yikes 3/5/2010 8:19:28 AM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
you're really scared things will be worse?
can someone explain why injuries arent built into contracts? seems like whatever defensive lineman we show the money to goes down in the first 3 weeks for the season 3/5/2010 8:23:49 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Because it's a competitive league and if someone offers you that another team will make an offer regardless of injury. 3/5/2010 8:24:45 AM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
well they also offer the highest contract in the nfl to a guy who had never played a snap in the nfl so i guess theres alot of things that dont make sense 3/5/2010 8:29:03 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ It's entirely possible, but I guess I just fear the unknown. When's the last time an NFL team entered a season with an entirely new unit starting? I can't think of one...
[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 8:30 AM. Reason : .] 3/5/2010 8:29:50 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Denver this past season? 3/5/2010 9:02:28 AM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
thats true, plus they had it even harder because they use a 3 man line
[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 9:09 AM. Reason : they ended up with the #7 defense] 3/5/2010 9:07:46 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Hasn't Dumervil been a starter since '07? 3/5/2010 9:12:22 AM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
Brayton/Johnson, Thomas/Tyler, Hayden(?), Brown
sigh.
i dont think we keep Hollis either. we go shopping in FA, again. 3/5/2010 9:13:53 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
^^ he's a linebacker 3/5/2010 9:14:48 AM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
i think we should try and get greg olsen from chicago, they just picked up another blocking TE (maneaumeaulala, lol)
he would basically become the #2 receiver right away 3/5/2010 9:17:20 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
^^ He's both
He plays DE on passing downs
Regardless of Dumervil, overhauling a critical unit with Fox's job on the line is going to be tough.
[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 9:20 AM. Reason : .] 3/5/2010 9:19:28 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
cutler would weep if they let Greg Olsen walk 3/5/2010 10:17:17 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Cutler weeps when he stubs his damn toe 3/5/2010 10:53:35 AM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
cutler drinks smirnoff ice 3/5/2010 11:17:24 AM |
tpw122983 Veteran 400 Posts user info edit post |
Landon Johnson and Diggs released yesterday 3/5/2010 11:17:34 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
fox cried at the press conference 3/5/2010 11:37:57 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
3/5/2010 11:54:23 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
tyler brayton is apparently gone too. i was just starting to like that guy
yep i'm a little worried about next year's d line 3/5/2010 3:35:28 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
anybody hear any of Jake's press conference? He was very emotional 3/5/2010 3:38:33 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what a big fucking baby
*SNORT* *sniff sniff sniff* *SNORT* these aren't tears of sorrow *SNORT SNORT SNORT*" |
3/5/2010 3:40:51 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
^That's just Jake. Don't know how you can hate on the guy for being emotional. He wasn't playing the victim. He was brutally honest about everything, as always, and said he wouldn't have minded to come back and play behind Moore. He knows he played like shit last year.
I was ready for him to go, but he's a first class guy. 3/5/2010 3:46:52 PM |
khufu All American 2103 Posts user info edit post |
^ I completely agree. 3/5/2010 5:21:52 PM |
TuTuLaRoo Veteran 211 Posts user info edit post |
my buddy who worked for the panthers PR department was genuinely upset because of this and he just kept repeating that Jake is one of, if not the most, friendly guy on the team egowise
so i brought up why he wouldnt out of the goodness of his heart take a paycut for the sake of the team knowing he doesnt deserve 13 mil this year
no answer for that except "you expect him to give the money back?"
YES 3/5/2010 6:20:19 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
because in the opposite situation, the team would totally hand out noncontractual bonuses to an overachieving player 3/5/2010 6:33:31 PM |
TuTuLaRoo Veteran 211 Posts user info edit post |
not outside of the contract, they build those things into contracts like "must start xx amount of games, must play xx% of offensive snaps" etc...
then they have bonus goals they can reach and get extra money
but to just guarantee the guy 13 mil, why does he care if he plays like dogshit, he's getting paid the average salary of like 3 QBs before he proves he earned it 3/5/2010 6:40:20 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
I am concerned about what the Panthers are doing. I hate that Richardson is the Owner representative in the CBA negotiations. Its like he is trying to send a message to the NFLPA that the owners are prepared to play hardball.
I thought Richardson wanted a Super Bowl Championship more than anything but with what they doing to the D-Line I would say they are dumping as many veteran deals as possible. I would not be surprised if Moose gets his walking papers soon.
Also Peppers says now he would have stayed had the Panthers offered him another 1.5 Million a year this past summer. Too me he is coming off as a big baby who is bitter. 2 years ago he would have been one of the highest paid defensive players in the league and he turned it down. So this once again proves that Peppers was all about the money. 3/7/2010 2:52:38 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " 2 years ago he would have been one of the highest paid defensive players in the league and he turned it down" |
He would've been the highest paid defensive player in NFL history...but only slightly...slightly3/7/2010 4:17:58 PM |
tmmercer All American 2290 Posts user info edit post |
^^Moose is a free agent. 3/7/2010 4:22:22 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i think we just dropped brad hoover .. 3/8/2010 12:36:22 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^I was expecting that...actually surprised they didn't do it last year.
wonder what the chances are he just retires? 3/8/2010 12:39:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Good night...sweet prince
3/8/2010 12:40:57 PM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
how long do we plan on keeping kasay? 3/8/2010 12:45:02 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
until the rapture 3/8/2010 12:48:39 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
What the hell is going on?
They've cut 20% of the of fucking team and haven't signed or traded for anyone! The way it looks now, the 2010 is already down the fucking drain. We went from needing 1 or 2 pieces to make a legit run, to a complete overhaul/rebuilding stage.
FUCK YOU HURNEY! 3/8/2010 12:55:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
We drafted Fiametta 2 years ago, Hoover got hurt, TWICE, last year
not a shocker
most teams don't carry 2 fullbacks] 3/8/2010 12:57:13 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Starting to look like Richardson is going to be one of those owners to take advantage of the "no salary floor" provision this year.....Or, they could really just be trying to get younger (not ideal timing when you don't have many draft picks tho), they only have 3 players who are 30+ on the roster now. 3/8/2010 1:11:35 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Fully expect 5-11 or worse
Definitely value saving money vs winning games this year
As a fan I don't like it, but as a businessman, I understand it completely 3/8/2010 1:17:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
the offseason is a long one...free agency has only been open for a few days...be patient 3/8/2010 1:21:49 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What the hell is going on?
They've cut 20% of the of fucking team and haven't signed or traded for anyone! The way it looks now, the 2010 is already down the fucking drain. We went from needing 1 or 2 pieces to make a legit run, to a complete overhaul/rebuilding stage.
FUCK YOU HURNEY!
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grow up, peter pan.
2010 will be a work in progress, but the direction of the team is clearly in the youngin's. I like the business aspect of what we're doing. We are planning for 2011 and beyond. You think Hurney is the one making these decisions on Jake and Hoover? Nope. Big Cat is.
I would not be shocked to see Kasay cut soon.3/8/2010 3:42:25 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Hey Tinkerbell,
Hurney IS the GM last time I checked and you don't know shit about who is or isn't "calling the shots" so shut the fuck up. You *assume* Big Cat is doing that and then try to pass it off as fact which in turn makes you look like a dumbass. Good job.
You should should go back to arguing that DeAngelo is, in fact, the greatest running back on earth since you played laser tag with him one time.
2010 wasn't supposed to be a work in progress. It was supposed to be picking up a couple of key pieces to put us over the top since we have such a small window left with two great backs and Smitty.
Kasay cut? You don't say, Captain Obvious 3/8/2010 3:50:29 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
settle down man
free agency just started 3/8/2010 3:54:14 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
So are you happy that other teams are shakin' and bakin' and we're left to pick up the scraps?
Management made no moves last year in free agency last year (mostly because of Peppers) and it came back to bite us in the ass big time. This year, they have all the money they could ever need, and again, it looks like they will stand pat or sign some over the hill fill-in player.
[Edited on March 8, 2010 at 4:00 PM. Reason : .] 3/8/2010 3:59:34 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
we still have the 2 head monster, good secondary, ok linebackers, good o-line, decent WR's
we'll be ok but by no means are we in any shape to do any damage in the playoffs 3/8/2010 4:04:30 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So are you happy that other teams are shakin' and bakin' and we're left to pick up the scraps?
Management made no moves last year in free agency last year (mostly because of Peppers) and it came back to bite us in the ass big time. This year, they have all the money they could ever need, and again, it looks like they will stand pat or sign some over the hill fill-in player." |
when was the last time a team won anything by signing a bunch of free agents?3/8/2010 4:29:03 PM |