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McDanger
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look besides even if i'm really posting under two different names, which would be a ridiculous waste of time (logging in and out), why not just pay attention to the content of the posts? fixating on stupid shit like whether or not the poster is playing some stupid, masturbatory internet game is a typical chimp-tactic to avoid contact with ideas that may require effortful revisions

11/5/2010 12:47:59 PM

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"I fully support the blockade of the tunnel. Scrawling hate-speech on the walls is a big "Stay out of here by threat of violence" directed at blacks, with 300 years of lynchings, slavery, and truck-draggings to back it up.

Until the blockaders actually attack someone trying to enter I'd say they're making a pretty poignant symbolic statementy mirroring the sentiment that's been directed at them. As usual, white people don't get it and shrug their shoulders in confusion, "Gosh it's just a word, don't be so uptight!""


I agree here. Out of everyone here who said "we should just go through these people," how many of you did? How many of you pushed the issue with them and demanded to let through? Some of you who sound so "passionate" against what they're doing failed to do shit. No, you guys pussed out.

And writing "Nigger" or any other racial slur on the school's campus should absolutely be censored.

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"hate speech is still speech, and in this country if it isn't a direct threat, it is still free speech
yeah, its wrong.
yeah, it makes the students of this University look bad
but its still protected under the 1st amendment, which is everything the FREE expression tunnel is about."


No. It's not protected under the 1st Amendment.

http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/hostile.htm

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"From hostile work environment law, the speech restriction campaign spread to "hostile educational environment" law. The U.S. Department of Education, for instance, has found that a college was legally required to censor sexist criticisms of student activists on its online bulletin boards. It then forced the college to adopt a speech code banning, among other things, speech that "denigrates or shows hostility or aversion" toward various groups, or involves "negative stereotyping." The First Amendment? Not a problem, the feds said, where the cause of fighting "hostile environments" is involved."


While this guy is taking a side against the government, the fact remains, it is against the law to create a hostile environment. Writing "Nigger" on the wall does just that.

11/5/2010 1:15:11 PM

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Please continue to grumble about everything except the content of my post, it's good to see that the recent oil spill in the gulf isn't affecting the harvest of red herrings.

11/5/2010 1:19:29 PM

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"Scrawling hate-speech on the walls is a big "Stay out of here by threat of violence" directed at blacks, with 300 years of lynchings, slavery, and truck-draggings to back it up."


does it really still mean this? i feel like the majority of America has moved beyond the 300 year old mindset and only select rednecks who think it's cool to be racist still use the word - the majority of 'diversity' stuff these days seem to be pulling us backwards and separating everyone

11/5/2010 2:34:47 PM

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White people have the luxury of almost never suffering any kind of racism that meaningfully impacts their life in negative, which is why most have this idea that it's not an issue anymore, or that we're moving backwards with 'too much diversity'. If you think racism's dead in this country please read this, do yourself a favor and click the citation links and educate yourself.

http://www.timwise.org/2010/07/black-powers-gonna-git-you-sucka-right-wing-paranoia-and-the-rhetoric-of-modern-racism/

A few highlights:

-research indicating that job applicants with white sounding names have a 50 percent better chance of being called back for an interview than their counterparts with black-sounding names, even when all qualifications are the same

-the study that found white job applicants with criminal records have a better chance of being called back for an interview than black applicants without one, even when all the qualifications are the same

-massive nationwide study that estimated at least 1 million cases of blatant job discrimination against blacks, Latinos and Asian Americans each year, affecting roughly one-in-three job seekers of color

-black males with college degrees are almost twice as likely as their white male counterparts to be out of work

-recent revelations that police in New York City are blatantly profiling blacks and Latinos, stopping and frisking them in massive numbers, even though in 90 percent of all cases, the people they stop are released without any charge because they are found to have done nothing illegal

-white police officers conspired to murder a black man in New Orleans after Katrina, and then cover up the crime, or the way other whites formed a vigilante terror squad and went hunting for black people in the aftermath of the flooding

-that story about the Philadelphia cop who refers to black folks as animals and niggers


There's way, way, way more. It might take a few hours to get through the entire article, but everyone owes it to themselves to study it. The bottom line is that, yes, there aren't nearly as many lynchings and direct violence as there was a few decades ago, but if you keep yourself abreast of blacks' treatment in America, you can understand why they might be a little sensitive about being called a word that represents their status as second-class citizens, because they are still wildly subject to racism on a daily basis.

Whites, suffering almost none of this, have no practical experience to guide their perceptions and opinions on race in America, and if they don't actively seek education then most fall into a "Oh comon, things aren't that bad now are they?" mindset. Because they aren't aware that job and education discrimination is not only still very widespread but very well-documented, they think that Affirmative Action is actually giving minorities a leg-up over them, an opinion that is laughable to anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the pertinent statistics. Reminder: White people have been minimalizing and accusing blacks of whining and asking for too much since before slavery was even abolished.

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11/5/2010 2:47:17 PM

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speak truth, brother

11/5/2010 2:50:56 PM

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^^You're way better than the old Str8Foolish. He would just call everyone names when he wanted his way and didn't get it.

11/5/2010 2:59:48 PM

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"White people have the luxury of almost never suffering any kind of racism that meaningfully impacts their life in negative, which is why most have this idea that it's not an issue anymore, or that we're moving backwards with 'too much diversity'. "


As someone who was in this situation for four years, I still believe that words only have power if you give them power and if people would stop getting their panties in a twist whenever something like this happened, it would stop being an issue. Full stop.

Again, how are we to know this was a white student who did this? It could have been a black student. Or some Latino guy that's not even affiliated with the school. Or some Chinese chick. We have no way of knowing who did this, what their motives were, or what their intent was. That, to me, is what makes the hubbub so confusing to me.

[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 3:12 PM. Reason : q]

11/5/2010 3:11:15 PM

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You'd have a point if words were nothing more than phonemic assemblies with no meaning, history, or context.

Believing words have no power is a privilege that comes from living in a society where your racial/economic class is the one on the upper end of the power structure.

Some words, particularly black-sounding names, have plenty of power, regardless of how much 'power' blacks choose to give them, as you'll find in the first study in the article I posted above.

Your argument amounts to the same old "Stop whining, black people, racism is your own fault for talking about it." bullshit that whites use to deflect any analysis of the racial politics in America and shut up anyone who says otherwise. What a coincidence, in the very next paragraph you put forth a range of theories that the perpetrator could have been anybody but a white person.

I can understand how you'd be confused by a lot of things if you have trouble comprehending the existence of a white racist southerner cowardly hiding behind the anonymity of whiteness-in-America to intimidate blacks.

11/5/2010 3:42:05 PM

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^And what the do you know about the black struggle..other than what you read in articles?

11/5/2010 3:44:06 PM

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The intent and race of some anonymous person is irrelevant when that person doesn't come out and tell us what his/her intent is. When intent isn't known, then the consequences of the action is what fully matters.

It's not like John Lennon's song "Woman is the Nigger of the World." He's not calling women niggers, but rather saying that they are treated like second class citizen, and uses the connotation of the word "nigger" to not mean a black person, but rather how black people are treated (second class citizens). While the the title of the song may be offensive alone, with the full context of the song itself and Lennon's own words and explanation, it's not longer offensive, but rather takes on an entirely new meaning than what may have originally been perceived.

In this case, the person who did it isn't confessing to doing it and offer an explanation. Rather we're left with our initial interpretation that this was a racist act, and in the absence of evidence to the contrary, I don't see why people shouldn't over-react. You can offer up a bunch of other motives as to why this was done, but just because you can create a bunch of alternative motives, doesn't mean that this being a racist and offensive act isn't possible, especially when people study past incidents of racism on this campus. I see no reason to give this speech the benefit of the doubt.

11/5/2010 3:52:00 PM

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Well I have a pair of eyes and my cable subscription includes C-SPAN. That right there should be enough for anyone to see that America isn't quite post-racial yet.

11/5/2010 3:52:34 PM

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"As someone who was in this situation for four years, I still believe that words only have power if you give them power and if people would stop getting their panties in a twist whenever something like this happened, it would stop being an issue. Full stop."


Four years of living in Japan suddenly puts you on par with American blacks?

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"Again, how are we to know this was a white student who did this? It could have been a black student. Or some Latino guy that's not even affiliated with the school. Or some Chinese chick. We have no way of knowing who did this, what their motives were, or what their intent was. That, to me, is what makes the hubbub so confusing to me.
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It could have been anybody, sure. Does that make it less inappropriate? When done anonymously, people are left to wonder.

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"And what the do you know about the black struggle..other than what you read in articles?"


Why does he have to know anything about it? The entire point of his post was illustrating the boundaries of his knowledge (and of whites' knowledge on this subject in general). This is precisely why reasonable people don't try to settle matters of taste for disadvantaged groups that they don't belong to.

11/5/2010 3:55:34 PM

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^ No, but to say just because I'm white means I've never had to deal with racism before is foolish. Whites are just as capable of experiencing racism as any other racial group.

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"I don't see why people shouldn't over-react"


People shouldn't over-react because in general rationality should be the de facto action of people. I don't think people should immediately over-react in any situation.

11/5/2010 4:34:31 PM

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You don't have the right to not be offended

but while we're taking away freedoms, how about you can't protest because your ignorance in how to deal with racism offends me as a black male

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

11/5/2010 4:38:54 PM

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"look besides even if i'm really posting under two different names, which would be a ridiculous waste of time (logging in and out)"


You can have http://thewolfweb.com and http://www.thewolfweb.com both logged in under different user names at the same time, so no points for that argument

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"Out of everyone here who said "we should just go through these people," how many of you did? How many of you pushed the issue with them and demanded to let through? Some of you who sound so "passionate" against what they're doing failed to do shit. No, you guys pussed out."


Actually, no one who posts here (besides, what, BigEgo, AstralAdvent, dropdeadkate) even goes to school still. No point.

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""From hostile work environment law, the speech restriction campaign spread to "hostile educational environment" law. The U.S. Department of Education, for instance, has found that a college was legally required to censor sexist criticisms of student activists on its online bulletin boards. It then forced the college to adopt a speech code banning, among other things, speech that "denigrates or shows hostility or aversion" toward various groups, or involves "negative stereotyping." The First Amendment? Not a problem, the feds said, where the cause of fighting "hostile environments" is involved."

While this guy is taking a side against the government, the fact remains, it is against the law to create a hostile environment. Writing "Nigger" on the wall does just that."


So why is it that the school only gets into an uproar when its the AASAC that gets offended? Oh right, because its still accepted to be blatantly offensive to women and usually to gays as well.

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"-research indicating that job applicants with white sounding names have a 50 percent better chance of being called back for an interview than their counterparts with black-sounding names, even when all qualifications are the same

-the study that found white job applicants with criminal records have a better chance of being called back for an interview than black applicants without one, even when all the qualifications are the same"


No fucking shit. If I'm not mistaken, they don't do background checks for every single fucking resume or job application that comes through. Try for a point when whites with criminal records get more job offers than blacks with the same qualifications. Otherwise, if they do a criminal background check for every Joe Schmuck that walks through the door, then let me know.

11/5/2010 4:50:38 PM

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"People shouldn't over-react because in general rationality should be the de facto action of people. I don't think people should immediately over-react in any situation."


But they're not over-reacting. You simply want them to react in the same manner that you're reacting in this situation, which is to have no-reaction. But you're trying to compare your rationale for your reactions with those of the people offended. You feel that they should feel the same as you. But why? Why should they react the same as you? Why should they believe that the racism displayed in the FET is anything other than racism?

I don't think it's up to any of us to decide if someone is "over-reacting" in a situation like this, if you are incapable of understanding why they are reacting in the manner that they are.

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"You don't have the right to not be offended"


True. But you do have a right to go to school in an environment that doesn't foster hostility towards you.

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"but while we're taking away freedoms"


We're not taking away freedoms. We've never had the freedom to make someone feel threatened or degraded.

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"a black male"


Aliases don't have a race.

11/5/2010 4:53:51 PM

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AstralAdvent is certified by a third party to be both a unique user account and black.

[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 4:56 PM. Reason : that sounded weird ]

11/5/2010 4:55:21 PM

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"But you do have a right to go to school in an environment that doesn't foster hostility towards you."


show me the hostility




but really Either you can express whatever you want and people can take offense and keep their asses moving or nobody can write anything at all.

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"We've never had the freedom to make someone feel threatened or degraded."


you mean we've always had the freedom to make someone feel threatened or degraded. Shitty thing to do but there are no laws protecting feelings.

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

11/5/2010 4:56:24 PM

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I think NC State should do a "Redout" at the next home game.

11/5/2010 4:57:38 PM

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this thread is still going?

11/5/2010 4:59:10 PM

Spontaneous
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Apparently.

11/5/2010 5:00:11 PM

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"I don't see why people shouldn't over-react. "


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" they're not over-reacting. "


Okay.

11/5/2010 5:01:08 PM

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"No fucking shit. If I'm not mistaken, they don't do background checks for every single fucking resume or job application that comes through. Try for a point when whites with criminal records get more job offers than blacks with the same qualifications. Otherwise, if they do a criminal background check for every Joe Schmuck that walks through the door, then let me know."


Actually, if you clicked my link, and clicked the study for the link, you would see that they controlled for this and had the whites in second group actively presented evidence of felony conviction. The whites still got more job offers than blacks with none (Although it's possible that the interviewers just assumed blacks had criminal records, would that mean I still get no "point"?)

[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 5:08 PM. Reason : tense]

[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 5:10 PM. Reason : clarification]

11/5/2010 5:07:58 PM

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"Actually, no one who posts here (besides, what, BigEgo, AstralAdvent, dropdeadkate) even goes to school still. No point"


I still go to school. Perhaps you should stick speaking for yourself.

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"So why is it that the school only gets into an uproar when its the AASAC that gets offended? Oh right, because its still accepted to be blatantly offensive to women and usually to gays as well.
"


What fucking uproar? I love fanaticism as much as the next person, but lets keep this shit in perspective:

Someone drew a picture of a black person, or a half-black person (Obama) on the wall and wrote "Nigger" and crossed it out or some shit.
Some 30 black students took offense, got a permit, and camped out in front of the FET late at night and in the early hours of the morning.
The police stood by and helped the 5 who wanted to go through the FET at 2 AM.
It was over before 8 AM.

Fucking Christ. That's all that happened! Oh right, I forgot about some black man a head of the AASAC or something being in some newspaper somewhere in NC.

Yup. HUGE uproar. I think something like 20 people got trampled to death, 36 dogs got kicked, 10 dead horses beaten and 2 old ladies in critical condition.

If there's a uproar, it's HERE. 6 page thread, people wanting to censor the protestors and take away their right to protest. People making threats about how they would go through them anyway and if they touched them, they would press charges. People thinking that creating a hostile environment should be legal. I think more people have gotten their panties in a wad here on TWW than at the protest.

As far as being offensive to women and gays, nobody is stopping women rights organizations and LGBT organizations from fighting against hostility here. If they choose not to protest, it's their choice. But it doesn't mean that the hostility is any less or more wrong than what the idiot did in the FET.

It's illogical to say, "Oh, well we offend gays and women and they don't get upset, therefore black people need to shut the fuck up."

11/5/2010 5:12:40 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NRriHlLUk

Done and Done.

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11/5/2010 5:15:02 PM

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"show me the hostility"


Hostility:
http://www.thewolfweb.com/photos/00518033.jpG

Now stop being dense.

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"but really Either you can express whatever you want and people can take offense and keep their asses moving or nobody can write anything at all."


LOL wut? No. Stop being stupidly general and broad.

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"you mean we've always had the freedom to make someone feel threatened or degraded. Shitty thing to do but there are no laws protecting feelings. "


No. We've never had the freedom to do any of that. You can't go up to someone and say, "I'm going to fucking kill you, spic." You can't degrade people by spreading lies about them (slander/libel). We have limits on our speech. When you were in school, you should have taken the opportunity to take a PS class that deals with the Constitution and the legal system in general. Not everything falls under "Free" speech. We've never had "Free" speech.

Besides, this isn't about people being offended. This is about intent. There is no reason to believe that the picture wasn't put up to create a hostile environment. It is clearly hostile. It's clearly there to make people angry and to make people feel unwelcomed. Sorry, but that shouldn't be tolerated.

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"Okay."


I'm sorry, I should have put "over-reacting" in quotes in the first quote. I was just using everyone else's standards of how they are reacting (in this case, most people are claiming that they are "over-reacting." I think that they are reacting appropriately).

11/5/2010 5:25:45 PM

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I can just see James Madison sitting down with his quill and inkwell, "Let's see, first priority is to make sure Patriots have the right to call a spade a spade. Should probably throw something in there about bearing arms as well just in case nuclear weapons get invented and Big Government tries to keep them out of the hands of Patriots."

11/5/2010 5:32:15 PM

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"they controlled for this and had the whites in second group actively presented evidence of felony conviction. The whites still got more job offers than blacks with none"


doesn't equal

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"-the study that found white job applicants with criminal records have a better chance of being called back for an interview than black applicants without one, even when all the qualifications are the same""


So please summarize better. I don't feel like clicking links.

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" I still go to school. Perhaps you should stick speaking for yourself."


And did you talk about breaking the blockade? No? Okay, you still don't have a point there.

Also, tl;dr at the rest of your response

11/5/2010 5:45:22 PM

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@merbig
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"I agree here. Out of everyone here who said "we should just go through these people," how many of you did? How many of you pushed the issue with them and demanded to let through? Some of you who sound so "passionate" against what they're doing failed to do shit. No, you guys pussed out."

No one could do shit because their protest stopped before it even started. They were disbanded before the 8am classes and only hindered people from midnight to 7:30am, which would mean people coming back from late night studies to their dorm. And yes, I would press the issue and get in their face if they restrict me access to a public area and force their hand. Like someone said, go through and if they touch you, file for assault charges.

Go protest to the side.
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"While this guy is taking a side against the government, the fact remains, it is against the law to create a hostile environment. Writing "Nigger" on the wall does just that."

A law meant for hostile work environment under a labor law doesn't translate to a public venue where the "environment" is considered outdoors. Sure there's been some interpretations with litigations that force a public forum operated by a university to conform, but FET isn't really operated by the university, it just happens to be on university property.

What do you want the university to do? Spend a shit ton of money to have a security camera system in place to police the FET? Then you will have people complaining about privacy laws or how it's just a complete waste of money on a stupid project. Or hire security people to patrol the tunnel 24/7? It's just not realistically feasible.

Also I do agree with that hate speech isn't really protected under the 1st amendment, but the thing is that you have to show the intent and meaning of the word, phrase or speech to be classified as a hate speech towards a group. Just because you were offended and your feelings were hurt from something on a wall doesn't make it a hate speech. Now if they wrote a manifesto on FET, inciting people to go out and hang people because they despise them... that's hate speech.

Calling someone by a racial slur isn't technically a hate speech, it is "hating on them" or degrading them, but as soon as someone puts the intent to harm in some sort of capacity or inciting others to repress the opposing group, it would quality as hate speech IMHO.

11/5/2010 5:52:04 PM

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^ There are other people on this board who still live in Raleigh/Cary area. Nothing is stopping them from doing anything about it. Again. It's all a bunch of pusillanimous bullshit. Even if these people were still students, they wouldn't do shit.

11/5/2010 5:52:29 PM

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So please summarize better. I don't feel like clicking links. "


I don't feel like wasting time on smarmy assholes who are strongly opinionated on issues about which they are simultaneously willfully ignorant. Enjoy the privilege of having ridiculous job discrimination be a point of trivia not worth investigating because it doesn't directly affect your demographic.

http://www.princeton.edu/~pager/race_at_work.pdf

11/5/2010 5:53:37 PM

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Something tells me if whites were being discriminated against you'd be poring over the article and making debate flashcards.

11/5/2010 5:54:43 PM

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^^^^ Just FYI, I agree with basically everything you said, except they already do have cameras at the tunnel. Although as the Chancellor said at today's pow wow, they don't really work, like...at all.

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11/5/2010 5:58:13 PM

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What year was that when some blatantly racist shit didn't go down on NCSU's campus?

I can't remember. I think there was only one year though. Anyone remember?

11/5/2010 5:58:42 PM

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^I don't know, does that year where there was only a "toilet paper noose" in a bathroom really count?

11/5/2010 6:01:38 PM

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"What do you want the university to do? Spend a shit ton of money to have a security camera system in place to police the FET? Then you will have people complaining about privacy laws or how it's just a complete waste of money on a stupid project. "

-I think you're grossly exaggerating the cost of a security camera, and I'm sure there's a donor out there

-You don't have a right to privacy in public spaces.

-Anyone who thinks its a 'stupid project' to hold racists accountable for anonymous public intimidation are themselves racism-enablers, fuck em.


It's astounding how resistant you are to even the most minor inconvenience for white students as a response to an action that makes black students frightened to walk alone at night on campus

11/5/2010 6:03:12 PM

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"^ There are other people on this board who still live in Raleigh/Cary area. Nothing is stopping them from doing anything about it. Again. It's all a bunch of pusillanimous bullshit. Even if these people were still students, they wouldn't do shit."

Wat? wtf are you saying? Who is stopping or not stopping? Who are those people you are trying to refer to? This whole case is a moot point. Move on. Let me know when actual hate speech presents itself in FET.

Also, I'm a current NCSU student, I would do shit and push the issue if the opportunity arise and directly affected me.

11/5/2010 6:06:55 PM

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photos/00518033.jpG

Definitely shopped. I can tell by the pixels.

11/5/2010 6:08:35 PM

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"It's astounding how resistant you are to even the most minor inconvenience for white students as a response to an action that makes black students frightened to walk alone at night on campus"


Oh, so the "black students" blocking the tunnel only inconvenienced "white students"? Really?

11/5/2010 6:12:27 PM

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"-I think you're grossly exaggerating the cost of a security camera, and I'm sure there's a donor out there

-You don't have a right to privacy in public spaces.

-Anyone who thinks its a 'stupid project' to hold racists accountable for anonymous public intimidation are themselves racism-enablers, fuck em."

1. Probably so, I think big when it comes to projects, but honestly, the whole FET is not well lit, would require an over haul of the lighting and a security system that wouldn't be easily beaten by someone just spray painting the lights or cameras in that matter. Knowing the government, it will be a huge issue then it needed to be, way over budget once the project finished, filled with loop holes in the systems, and would probably have some sort of stupid multi-million dollar survey that finds nothing or something completely obvious that everyone already knew.

2. True, but that doesn't stop idiots protesting about something stupid like that. I wouldn't care if there were security systems in place in FET. I would welcome it, but read #1. A 12 yr old kid could probably out smart the system and be just a waste of money.

3. Its stupid in the regards of wasting money for a non-functional security system or spend money on rent-a-cops to police the area. Money could be better spent else where. Also, read one of my posts above. I hate on everyone equally.


I wouldn't mind a student run group who went around and patrolled the FET and made sure shit isn't put up there. Would have been a better response then just a stupid blockade that just failed.

11/5/2010 6:17:03 PM

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"It's astounding how resistant you are to even the most minor inconvenience for white students as a response to an action that makes black students frightened to walk alone at night on campus"

Yeah, minor inconveniences, like, I don't know...not being able to express yourself freely.

Jesus titty-fucking-christ, people. We have the freedom to make good and bad decisions in this country. It is obvious that 99% of the student population finds it abhorrent when someone paints something degrading in the FET. If this shit was actually brought out in to the open more, it might actually be highlighted, and then the dumbass racists, etc., would actually shamed in to not doing it.

Instead, I saw people like the one girl at the Chancellor's meeting advocating that we either get rid of the FET, or just "do it like Carolina" where you have get your message approved before painting it. Luckily there were some sane people there as well, like the guy who brought up Morgan Freeman's point that you just don't talk about it. Paint over it, and don't make a scene. The person who did it never gets recognized, and never gets the satisfaction of seeing it there. The only way this shit is going to slow down or stop is if the student body as a whole is having the discussion about free speech, and how to handle speech that someone might be offended by. It isn't going to happen by the school changing the code of conduct or other nonsense.

11/5/2010 6:18:13 PM

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Also, I feel offended of the whole issue about White vs. Blacks. What about us Asians? We aren't black or white, can't be grouping us with Blacks. Black isn't a color... blah blah blah

what was I trying to point out?...







umm... FUCK YOU? There we go

11/5/2010 6:23:33 PM

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^That's why I called him out saying this was only white students.

I only heard about it because my former roommates and best friend (Indian, Vietnamese, and Black respectively) came to me bitching about it when they were going to library.

11/5/2010 6:32:28 PM

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Exactly... what did this blockade accomplish? It only pissed us Asians off because we couldn't get to or fro the library.

All would regret from delaying us from our studies.

11/5/2010 6:39:28 PM

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My god, they've done it now. They've pissed off the Asians.

11/5/2010 6:41:14 PM

JBaz
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*Unleash Godzilla on NYC*

11/5/2010 6:42:03 PM

pttyndal
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Fuck the asians, what about the indians. I'm gonna scalp somebody's ass.

11/5/2010 6:42:28 PM

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are you fools still going?

11/5/2010 6:42:29 PM

JBaz
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^^ thought you guys liked to be called native americans? And scalping people asses sounds like it would make a shitty coat... Unless ppl have hairy asses...


^yes...

11/5/2010 6:46:10 PM

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