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aaronburro
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Yet again, a top OSU football player breaks the rules and receives zero punishment. wtg, NCAA. "I promise I'll be back, honest!"

6/7/2011 6:52:41 PM

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I agree, it's horseshit that the NCAA didn't suspend those players for the Sugar Bowl. It's going to look even dumber when they make Ohio State forfeit wins from last year but NOT the bowl game since the NCAA cleared them for that one.

6/7/2011 6:55:49 PM

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444

BOOOM!

Pryor got $40,000+ for signing memorabilia

6/7/2011 10:46:02 PM

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That Talbott guy is a fucking idiot. "No I've never received tickets from players". "but we have proof you have". "I don't remember receiving any tickets"

Looks like the hammer is going to have to drop pretty hard and a slap of LOIC on top. I really hope this doesn't fuck things up with UNC's shit.

6/7/2011 11:32:52 PM

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"I really hope this doesn't fuck things up with UNC's shit."


Yeah, I'm sure the one guy the NCAA has carrying out all of its investigations probably lost his UNC manilla folder during all this OSU stuff. What the fuck are you talking about.

6/8/2011 12:01:38 AM

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In terms of punishments.

6/8/2011 12:08:22 AM

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What you think the NCAA is gonna use up its yearly allotment of punishments on OSU?

[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 12:11 AM. Reason : OH NO WE OUTTA SANCTIONS]

6/8/2011 12:09:05 AM

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Oh for petes sake...if all that is true in the article the OSU scandal blows UNC's out of the water hence my fear they get a lighter punishment because it is not as bad.

6/8/2011 12:15:31 AM

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Worried that a lesser offense will warrant a lesser punishment?

Do you write for SFN?

6/8/2011 12:17:49 AM

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I think Ohio State is off the hook until 2012 since USC just had to vacate their 06 title

6/8/2011 12:18:27 AM

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Pryor got $40k, now UNC will never get the death penalty it deserves!!

6/8/2011 12:20:09 AM

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"Oh for petes sake...if all that is true in the article the OSU scandal blows UNC's out of the water hence my fear they get a lighter punishment because it is not as bad."


1. it's not

2. they're 2 VERY different situations. OSU's sanctions shouldn't even be as bad as USC's

6/8/2011 6:47:39 AM

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USC's scandal only involved 2 athletes. OSU's case looks like it is going back years and involves multiple athletes with all sorts of area businesses giving kids free shit or special treatment. It is worse than what was uncovered at USC.

Unless the NCAA has found something on UNC we don't know about yet it is small potatoes compared to OSU. What I was trying to say Ernie...if you just took a moment to comprehend instead of being such a dick...is I wonder if they will get the punishment their violations deserve or will it now be more likely they get off with a slap on the wrist. I mean we are talking about the NCAA here....where logic and consistency is a foreign concept.

6/8/2011 7:03:03 AM

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all sorts of local businesses? So, 2 tattoo places (only b/c the first one shut down) and 1 car dealership is all sorts? I bet you're mad that Pryor had a VIC card too, right?

6/8/2011 7:32:57 AM

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"With Pryor no longer a college football player, he is no longer obligated to meet with the NCAA."


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6636768


nice!

6/8/2011 7:55:54 AM

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I like that he kept up with the "The Ohio State" garbage even while quitting the team and leaving the university.

6/8/2011 9:12:21 AM

Dammit100
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^it IS the official name of the university.

however, that asshole said he was going to "The University of Ohio State" at his LOI presser.

[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 10:27 AM. Reason : .]

6/8/2011 10:23:36 AM

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^^^ Ive been meaning to mention this but this is why UNCCHeat kicked Austin off the team, it made him unavailable to the NCAA. Sneaky sneaky

6/8/2011 11:33:24 AM

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All car deals cleared by DMV: http://sports.ap.org/college-football/story?id=pb9845b5ed71c4f2d953456f7cf44ea74

I'm sure ESPN will run this one.

6/21/2011 10:01:25 AM

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doubtful

6/21/2011 2:26:35 PM

Dammit100
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they have it listed. good for them

6/21/2011 2:45:46 PM

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dmv "cleared" in that the paperwork is fine. Doesn't say anything about who the cars were sold to or what the prices were.

6/21/2011 2:56:25 PM

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http://www.dispatch.com/wwwexportcontent/sites/dispatch/local_news/stories/2011/06/21/BMV_Investigation.pdf

yeah, nothing about prices here

6/21/2011 3:27:28 PM

aaronburro
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UNC should take a page from OSU about how to cover shit up. wtg, tOSU

6/21/2011 11:52:48 PM

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The only question left unanswered was how Pryor was allowed to drive around in several loaner vehicles....

6/21/2011 11:58:26 PM

aaronburro
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and it will never be answered, because he quit and is no longer subject to the NCAA. seriously, they NCAA needs a new rule that says "if you refuse to talk, we assume guilt of the worst infractions".

6/22/2011 12:51:47 AM

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OSU is vacating all wins from last season

7/8/2011 12:49:00 PM

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^
link

7/8/2011 12:55:09 PM

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for the lazy:
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/07/08/0708-ohio-state-pleads-case-to-ncaa.html?sid=101

7/8/2011 1:04:40 PM

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"Ohio State has lost its top 2012 football recruit to Michigan, as offensive tackle Kyle Kalis switched his commitment to the Wolverines last weekend.
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Kalis, of St. Edward High School in Lakewood, Ohio, is listed at 6-foot-5 and 306 pounds and is considered one of the nation's top offensive line recruits. He's ranked 140th overall and 20th at his position in the ESPNU 150.
The only member of Ohio State's 2012 recruiting class ranked in the ESPNU 150, Kalis decommitted in June.
"I can't go there (Ohio State) and take penalties for something I never did," Kalis told ESPN.com on Monday. "Ohio State is a great program. I'm just not sure how long it will take them to recover. I want a solid, grounded coaching staff with a safe environment. Where there aren't such tough questions."
Kalis said although he is an Ohio State fan and has had "constant stress and anxiety" from the community about his decision, it's the best choice for him.

"When I de-committed to (Ohio State coach) Luke Fickell I called him and told him and he understood where I'm coming from," Kalis said. "With the turmoil and uncertainty I just couldn't."
Kalis said he visited Michigan last weekend and called coach Brady Hoke from the "M" logo at the middle of the field at Michigan Stadium to inform him he was coming to Ann Arbor.
"He is the type of guy I want to play for," Kalis said. "(Hoke) has an incredible amount of passion. I believe the Michigan-Ohio border is now open. I think you're going to see eight or nine guys from the state of Ohio going over to Michigan this year."
Kalis nearly ended his commitment to Ohio State in late May, after Jim Tressel resigned, before a conversation with Fickell changed his mind.
Joe Schad is a college football reporter for ESPN."


more recruits jumping the sinking ship...

7/11/2011 3:48:05 PM

Dammit100
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if by "more" you mean "one" then yes. GO GEORGETOWN!!

7/12/2011 10:04:25 AM

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meh, they can have him. He sounds like a pussy who is afraid of dealing with adversity

[Edited on July 12, 2011 at 10:13 AM. Reason : adsf]

7/12/2011 10:07:01 AM

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obviously they can, but I'd like to have a 5* lineman. Granted Bollman wouldn't know what the fuck to do with him, but still....

7/12/2011 10:09:21 AM

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"GO GEORGETOWN!!"


still makes me laugh

7/12/2011 11:53:13 AM

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Wonder when they will go after UNC/Butch's records.....

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2011/07/11/story-columbus-ohio-state-football-emails-espn-ohio-supreme-court.html

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"COLUMBUS, Ohio — ESPN asked the Ohio Supreme Court on Monday to release "all e-mails, letters and memos" to and from former football coach Jim Tressel, Ohio State President E. Gordon Gee and others that mentioned Pennsylvania businessman Ted Sarniak."

7/14/2011 4:18:51 PM

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the amount of resources ESPN has spent trying to uncover more shit at OSU is remarkable. I wonder if they did the same for USC, or were they too busy cock-chugging Pete Carroll to care?

7/14/2011 4:22:43 PM

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I now have a bet going with former Hurricane D-Man Aaron Ward for the OSU-Michigan game.

7/21/2011 6:33:25 PM

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not even being charged with Failure to Monitor.

SUCK IT, ESPN! Talk about the shit going on at Auburn and LSU a lil bit, would ya?

Lately we have:
USC: Lack of institutional control.
Georgia Tech: Failure to monitor....failure to cooperate with the NCAA
North Carolina: Failure to monitor
Tennesee: Failure to monitor

OSU: None of the above.

But OSU had WAAAAAY more coverage on ESPN than the SEC schools, or their cock chugging of USC.

FUCK THEM.

7/22/2011 6:12:14 PM

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Good news

Now there's no threat of the degree you don't hold from OSU being devalued

7/22/2011 6:15:11 PM

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hey, it's ernie bringing a tired, retarded argument into this thread. WOOHOO!

7/22/2011 6:16:53 PM

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great news that there are no new violations, but there are still the outstanding violations that need to be put to rest. Im hoping that the level of cooperation the adminstration has shown on top of the self-imposed sanctions will be good enough to the NCAA. I'm sure there will be a couple schollys lost, but if we can get out of this without a postseason ban I'd be happy.

7/22/2011 6:49:10 PM

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if our charges are less than GT, by a long shot, then there's no reason OSU should lose anything beyond vacating the wins from 2010

7/22/2011 6:50:13 PM

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well GT was still in the "window" from their last major penalty where they couldnt get in trouble again. So the fact that they had more major violations so close to their last sanctions made their situation (and subsequent sanctions) worse than pretty much everyone else under investigation. At least thats what I understand about GT.

If this was GTs first offense, they almost certainly wouldnt have got the punishment they did

7/22/2011 7:01:57 PM

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I could see a 1 yr postseason ban

7/22/2011 8:28:41 PM

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based on what? keeping in mind the precedents set by the NCAA

7/22/2011 10:50:41 PM

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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=145&f=3154&t=7694773&p=1

SI, ESPN, CBSSports, etc... can all

7/22/2011 11:39:52 PM

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I'm going to be pissed if UT gets slammed for lying about a fucking BBQ and shitload of secondary violations under Lane (but still WAY under what OSU does in a typical year) and OSU gets off with a slap on the wrist for all their shit

7/23/2011 1:24:54 AM

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correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the penalties administered by OSU fit the violations (as the NCAA sees them, not what SI and ESPN so desperately wanted them to be).

some players got improper benefits and would have been ineligible, but Tressel played them anyway and didn't do his job by a)playing them, and b)not telling compliance. As a result, all 2010 wins are vacated, Tressel is out, and Pryor is gone. Im trying to set my bias aside, but that sounds like a reasonable punishment.

7/23/2011 8:38:41 AM

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7/23/2011 9:42:55 AM

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the backtracking begins - http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/29504/nca a-outlook-much-rosier-for-ohio-state

Pretty sad how much effort ESPN and SI (among several other media sources) to try and create a bigger scandal/story than what actually took place.

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The NCAA has reportedly told Ohio State the "failure to monitor" tag won't be applied in the case that led to the resignation of coach Jim Tressel.
As reported by The Columbus Dispatch on Friday afternoon, the NCAA has told Ohio State that the dreaded "failure to monitor" tag will not be applied in the case that has already led to the resignation of coach Jim Tressel. That means the Buckeyes will almost certainly avoid the harshest of penalties, such as bowl or TV bans.

The NCAA also said it has not uncovered any additional violations. That's huge, because although there have been several reports and rumors of wrongdoing around the program in the past six months, the only charges Ohio State must answer are the original ones involving Tressel and the sale of memorabilia. The Buckeyes already have vacated their wins from last season, put themselves on two years' probation, and of course gotten rid of Tressel and suspended players for next season. The NCAA said it interviewed the players and figures cited in the Sports Illustrated story published the week Tressel resigned but could not find enough corroborating evidence. (Which doesn't make the report less true, necessarily, since the NCAA has no subpoena power.)

I still believe some scholarship reductions could be on the table after the Committee on Infractions meets with school officials Aug. 12 and later doles out its punishment. But Ohio State can easily survive the loss of a handful of scholarships, if it even comes to that point. A bowl ban would have been much tougher to swallow.

That great news for the Buckeyes came on the heels of an earlier TV report that said Tressel had informed school compliance officials in December about the violations involving tattoo parlor owner Edward Rife. If true, that would mean the school falsely claimed a month later that it had no knowledge of the situation. Ohio State officials forcefully denied the truth of that report, however.

Ohio State's strategy was to lay blame for this whole mess on Tressel and a handful of players, whether you believe that's fair or not. The NCAA appears to have bought that argument pretty much wholesale, and indeed, it must be said that investigators have no other evidence saying otherwise. Ohio State also released the transcript of a five-hour interview of Tressel by the NCAA in February. Tressel said he knew NCAA sanctions were "inevitable" when he first learned what his players were doing but that his "heart was torn out" out of concern for his players. He said the NCAA case didn't have as much ramification, to him, as a federal drug investigation.

The Buckeyes aren't necessarily out of the woods yet, because the NCAA infractions committee can be unpredictable. Until the Aug. 12 date comes and goes, fans have to continue holding their breath to make sure no new, damning or documented allegations come to light.

But the outlook sure seems a lot better now than at any other time in the past few months for Ohio State. The Buckeyes might just get through this without any further serious problems, which means the current coaches, players and entire program can move forward with a lot more confidence. "

7/23/2011 9:59:01 AM

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