I can see when JaZon arrives, everyone devolves into a poo-slinging circus animal. Thanks for the nice conversation, foolish.

10/11/2012 3:04:34 PM

Everyone was already laughing at you, dummy.

10/11/2012 3:07:51 PM

Log off TWW and facebook and read something of substance. It's transparently obvious to everyone here that you believe this garbage not because of actual knowledge about welfare or childraising, but because it's a fashionably cynical view that right wingers parrot because it confirms their worldview without actually making it come in contact with the world.

It's a tactic by the elite to make members of the working class (Dumbass white people) hate other members of the working class (Single black moms) so that they'll vote to pay for the tax decreases for the rich with cutting of social programs.

You're a tool of the highest order, the most blatant example possible of a useful idiot, and the longer you go on believing you have nothing to learn that can't be conferred to you by viral emails and images of campaign rallies the longer you'll continue to be the most ridiculous, laughable, sputtering moron on this entire forum.

10/11/2012 3:13:19 PM

You: "Do you think raising a child is easier than having a job?"


Me: I can imagine a situation in which raising a child is harder than having a job and I can imagine a situation in which having a job is harder than raising a child.


You: We all know you're very good at imagining things.


You: Log off TWW and facebook and read something of substance. It's transparently obvious to everyone here that you believe this garbage not because of actual knowledge about welfare or childraising, but because it's a fashionably cynical view that right wingers parrot because it confirms their worldview without actually making it come in contact with the world.

It's a tactic by the elite to make members of the working class (Dumbass white people) hate other members of the working class (Single black moms) so that they'll vote to pay for the tax decreases for the rich with cutting of social programs.

You're a tool of the highest order, the most blatant example possible of a useful idiot, and the longer you go on believing you have nothing to learn that can't be conferred to you by viral emails and images of campaign rallies the longer you'll continue to be the most ridiculous, laughable, sputtering moron on this entire forum.

10/11/2012 3:17:50 PM

Alright, let's try testing your belief with a prediction.

If people have more children when welfare is more available, then it would be reasonable to expect that countries with a more pervasive welfare state would have higher birth rates.

Does this prediction make sense to you? If not, why?


[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 4:03 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2012 3:45:36 PM

Quote :

"Think about your question. What answer could possibly satisfy it?"

Translation: I can't possibly use average costs for raising a child because they do not accurately describe every single instance, but I will make generalities about all cases using a single image of a receipt from one person who was obviously doing something to be funny


Get help

10/11/2012 3:48:23 PM

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"Deductive reasoning, also called deductive logic, is the process of reasoning from one or more general statements regarding what is known to reach a logically certain conclusion.[1] Deductive reasoning involves using given true premises to reach a conclusion that is also true. Deductive reasoning contrasts with inductive reasoning in that a specific conclusion is arrived at from a general principle. If the rules and logic of deduction are followed, this procedure ensures an accurate conclusion. An example of a deductive argument: 1) All men are mortal. 2) Socrates is a man. 3) Therefore, Socrates is mortal. "

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"In the philosophy of science, falsifiability or refutability is a quality or characteristic of a scientific hypothesis or theory. Falsifiability is considered a positive (and often essential) quality of a hypothesis because it means that the hypothesis is testable by empirical experiment and thus conforms to the standards of scientific method. That something is "falsifiable" does not mean it is false, rather it means that if it is false, then observation or experiment will at some point demonstrate its falsehood. For example, the assertion that "all swans are white" is falsifiable, because it is logically possible that a swan can be found that is not white. Not all statements that are falsifiable in principle are falsifiable in practice. For example, "It will be raining here in one million years" is theoretically falsifiable, but not practically so. "

10/11/2012 4:04:32 PM

I'm not asking for an "all _______ are _________". You're positing that more welfare = more kids. I'm asking if you think there's a correlation. A correlation allows for exceptions, it only shows a general relationship.

10/11/2012 4:17:07 PM

I do believe the first statement I made was "I thought birthrate coincided with free time"

10/11/2012 4:20:16 PM

Except when they have jobs, then it's welfare.

10/11/2012 4:26:52 PM

I really have no idea why this concept of "free time" is so hard for you to grasp. Do you understand what "free time" is?

10/11/2012 4:31:35 PM

It's something countries with lower birthrates have more of, and as it increases over time so does the birthrate decrease.



[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 4:37 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2012 4:34:55 PM

I also am pretty sure free time is something you have exactly none of after your first child.

10/11/2012 4:36:23 PM

I mean, I just don't get it. How can the people of Sweden, for instance, have both one of the shortest work weeks (most free time) and most pervasive welfare in the world, yet also have one of the lowest birthrates? It doesn't make sense unless...unless...you have no clue what you're talking about and are just parroting baseless talking points created to demonize social services.

Comon man. You have an extremely active imagination, but only at imagining scenarios that confirm what you already believe. Try to accept the [i]possibility[i] that the reason all the data in the world disagrees with you might be because you're mistaken.

[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 4:43 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2012 4:39:24 PM

You realize your little map with birthrates work weeks leaves off the entire continent of Africa?

10/11/2012 4:43:07 PM

I never posted a map with birthrates, that one was of work weeks. You'll find African countries on the table I posted on the prior page, that showed that birth rates are highest in the countries with the lowest GDP per capita.

It might also interest you to know that welfare in Africa is nearly non-existent. The vast majority of people who eat at all in Africa do so by subsistence farming, something that takes a lot more than 40 hours a week.


[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 4:45 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2012 4:44:29 PM

Why are you still talking about welfare?


This is about free time.

10/11/2012 4:48:11 PM

On one hand, we have my theory that standard of living is negatively correlated with birthrate, which is more than obvious in just about any data set comparing the two quantities.

On the other hand, we have your theory that birthrate is higher when you have more free time OR more welfare available, depending on which one I'm proving you wrong on, and in order to keep repeating requires you to twist and contort so violently that your head goes up your ass, comes out your mouth, back into your ass, in a never-ending Ouroboros of inanity.

10/11/2012 4:48:13 PM

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"Why do are you still talking about welfare?"

Why do are you are do pretending you weren't the one who brought it up in the first place?

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"This is about free time."

Which subsistence farmers, which are the most prevalent in Africa of any other continent, have the least of.

There's next to no welfare in Africa, that means that if you aren't subsistence farming from dawn until dusk 7 days a week, you die from not eating.

Judging by how much time you spend on here, on the other hand, one would think you would have a brood of about 20 by now.

[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 4:55 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2012 4:49:50 PM

You're being impossible to follow.


Birthrate = number of babies you produce right?

10/11/2012 4:55:32 PM

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"You're being impossible to follow."

Does anyone agree with GeniusXBoy? Anyone? Please speak up, seriously.

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"Birthrate = number of babies you produce right?"

Let's make sure we clearly define what a "baby" is too so you don't get further confused.

[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2012 4:56:53 PM

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"There's next to no welfare in Africa, that means that if you aren't subsistence farming from dawn until dusk 7 days a week, you die from not eating. "

I mean.. this doesn't have anything to do with birthrate, does it?

10/11/2012 4:59:59 PM

According to you it does. Subsistence farming is super-labor-intensive and super-time-consuming, which means Africans in generally have very, little free time compared to first world workers. They also have almost no welfare. So why do they have such high birth rates?

[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 5:01 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2012 5:00:39 PM

Im pretty sure they have a high birthrate because many don't have jobs, women are either controlled or owned by men, rape is probably threw the roof which explain the high AIDS epidemic there, their one job is to watch the kids, not to mention the lack of birth control, and to further escalate the baby making, the only means to cure boredom for men is to fuck and rape women.

I can't really account for women's rights in Africa.

10/11/2012 5:06:52 PM

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"Im pretty sure they have a high birthrate because many don't have jobs,"

That doesn't mean they have free time. Like I said, without a job in Africa, there's no welfare to go to, so you either become a beggar or subsistence farm. Subsistence farmers have little to no free time at all, and I don't think you can attribute the entire birthrate to beggar-rapists (but you might try, knowing you).

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" women are either controlled or owned by men, rape is probably threw the roof which explain the high AIDS epidemic there, their one job is to watch the kids and those free to move, not to mention the lack of birth control, and to further escalate the baby making, the only means to cure boredom for men is to fuck and rape women."

Oh, so now it's about gender inequality?

Seriously man, how many new theories are you going to come up with before you even consider mine? Why are you so resistant to the possibility that higher standard of living encourages lower birth rates?

10/11/2012 5:10:20 PM

Is it because you're a libertarian, so any mention of possibly helping poor people is disgusting to you because it means big gubbamint? Seriously dude, why are you so willing to entertain any and every theory except the most obvious one? You said so yourself: they don't have a lot of birth control there. That's not because condoms dry up in the African heat, it's because they are poor as shit and don't have quality sex education, two things that you don't find in countries with a higher standard of living.


[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 5:14 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2012 5:11:04 PM

Because he refuses to be wrong

10/11/2012 5:12:58 PM

Can you please stay on topic of birthrates?

10/11/2012 5:14:32 PM

[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 5:17 PM. Reason : heh, foolish is pretty much handing it to you and you're oblivious]

10/11/2012 5:16:42 PM

10/11/2012 5:18:26 PM

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"jaZon : Yes, he actually believes this - and it's yet another reason why nothing he ever says can be taken seriously. jaZon: Everyone was already laughing at you, dummy. jaZon: Because he refuses to be wrong jaZon: Can you try to GET on topic in the first place? JaZon: [Edited on October 11, 2012 at 5:17 PM. Reason : heh, foolish is pretty much handing it to you and you're oblivious]"

It's safe to say that you have not contributed anything close to being on topic.

10/11/2012 5:20:51 PM

Stop focusing on me and get back to your rambling responses to foolish.

10/11/2012 5:22:42 PM

I can't.


when JaZon arrives, everyone devolves into a poo-slinging circus animal.

10/11/2012 5:24:21 PM

You're a fucking moron.

Str8Foolish has done nothing but provide rational and intelligent responses to your meandering and incomprehensible bullshit. Do him the courtesy of admitting you're a moron or actually make a legit argument.

10/11/2012 5:27:07 PM

Quote :

""jaZon : Yes, he actually believes this - and it's yet another reason why nothing he ever says can be taken seriously. jaZon: Everyone was already laughing at you, dummy. jaZon: Because he refuses to be wrong jaZon: Can you try to GET on topic in the first place? JaZon: [Edited on October 11, 2012 at 5:17 PM. Reason : heh, foolish is pretty much handing it to you and you're oblivious]" jaZon: Stop focusing on me and get back to your rambling responses to foolish. jaZon: You're a fucking moron. Str8Foolish has done nothing but provide rational and intelligent responses to your meandering and incomprehensible bullshit. Do him the courtesy of admitting you're a moron or actually make a legit argument."

10/11/2012 5:34:12 PM

Well, we can say you're shameless when looking for an out when you realize you're wrong about something.

[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 5:37 PM. Reason : we CAN do that]

10/11/2012 5:36:20 PM

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"PARIS (AP) — France will move surveillance drones to West Africa and is holding secretive talks with U.S. officials in Paris this week as it seeks to steer international military action to help Mali's feeble government win back the northern part of the country from al-Qaida-linked rebels, The Associated Press has learned. France and the United Nations insist any invasion of Mali's north must be led by African troops. But France, which has six hostages in Mali and has citizens who have joined al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, is playing an increasing role behind the scenes."

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-france-send-drones-mali-region-200931532.html


If NWO can't get US to send drones, the easy fix to get France to send drones via the UN.

10/22/2012 7:21:15 PM

I can't count how many times they mentioned Mali in the debates when Mali has never ever ever ever ever been mentioned before this debate or the article above this post.

10/22/2012 10:38:55 PM

You clearly don't follow the news.

Of course, we notice that every time that you bitch about something not being in the news.

10/22/2012 11:47:21 PM

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=Mali

GeniusXBoy, just because dailypaul.com doesn't follow a story doesn't mean it's not "In the News".

10/23/2012 9:56:11 AM

I understand that you like googling things after they are brought to your attention.

10/24/2012 1:19:29 PM

SOME WEIRD SHIT IS GOING ON. Come on guys, wake up please.



Chief Justice John Roberts Had Escaped To Malta

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/chief-justice-john-roberts-malta-photo-2012-7#ixzz2AKlnaKpx

10/25/2012 1:46:38 PM

The comments on that site are priceless:

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"Ah, in Europe "teaching a class." I'll bet the class could trace connections back to a Rothschild or Rockefeller foundation... and the global slavery continues.... "

10/25/2012 1:50:17 PM

What business does Chief Justice John Roberts have in Malta, teaching the Knights of Malta??

ESPECIALLY after his surprise landmark healthcare ruling that DEFIED ALL LOGIC AND IGNORED THE CONSTITUTION

10/25/2012 1:55:22 PM

Even if he did plan this trip after his vote, why is wanting to avoid the press evidence of something weird or a conspiracy.

Also, this was in June/July. It's October now, so how exactly is this evidence of something weird? And what is it evidence of?

10/25/2012 6:34:38 PM

What's weird is that he chose Malta back in July and now there is a major crisis there when Malta was previously completely off the radar.

What's weird is that he's a supreme court justice....in Malta.

What's weird is that he's a supreme court justice....in Malta...after a historic anti-american ruling.

10/26/2012 4:29:34 AM

Supreme Court justices aren't allowed to travel or escape the spotlight? What exactly is weird about it, what do you think it means?

10/26/2012 6:53:20 AM

It definitely means there is something sketchy happening in Malta.

10/26/2012 11:17:31 AM

Probably meeting a gay lover from Italy, STFU

10/26/2012 11:55:06 AM

^^ Like what? Why does it mean that?

10/26/2012 12:15:32 PM