terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Methinks you don't understand the meaning of the word "illegal." No one was being thrown in jail for saying they were married to a person of the same sex then." |
Yes, gay marriage and civil unions were illegal. You could have googled that shit or looked in a dictionary before trying to call someone out like that.
[Edited on December 30, 2013 at 7:11 PM. Reason : ] 12/30/2013 7:10:48 PM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
this is when aaronburro starts his ridiculous paper towel/napkin semantics argument that worked so well for Rick Santorum
also, gay sex is literally still illegal in Louisiana and carries a 5 year prison sentence! they haven't removed the law even after the Supreme Court struck down anti-sodomy laws in 2003 and are literally still arresting people for it!
[Edited on December 30, 2013 at 7:37 PM. Reason : .] 12/30/2013 7:26:02 PM
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disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " No, it doesn't. I think murder is wrong. Does that make me a bigot? You need to go look up the definition of that word, because you plainly don't understand it whatsoever. moreover, given your abject hatred, ridicule, and disgust for Christians, it is FAR more fitting for you than for someone who simply thinks homosexuality is a sin." |
If you hate someone for something they have no control over, that's bigotry.
Tell me what's wrong with this definition before we continue this conversation. 12/30/2013 8:05:06 PM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
what's wrong is that if the Bible sez it it can't be bigoted 12/30/2013 8:09:15 PM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
hating someone because of their religious beliefs IS bigotry. but it's ok if it's against christians. (had someone in this thread put down someone because they were a jew or a muslim, people like you would be calling them out for being bigots. 12/30/2013 8:09:23 PM
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Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "also, gay sex is literally still illegal in Louisiana and carries a 5 year prison sentence! they haven't removed the law even after the Supreme Court struck down anti-sodomy laws in 2003 and are literally still arresting people for it! " |
It's not gay in a three way with a honey in the middle, there's some leeway 12/30/2013 8:19:41 PM
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disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hating someone because of their religious beliefs IS bigotry" |
Only in bizarro world where the religious have sway. You choose to believe; you don't choose whom you find attractive. 12/30/2013 8:24:56 PM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "bigĀ·ot noun \'bi-g?t\ : a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)" |
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot 12/30/2013 8:28:25 PM
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Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
Oh shit. Smath brought out his dic. 12/30/2013 8:31:36 PM
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disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
^^Christians have controlled Western Civilization for almost 2000 years. I'm not impressed with the dictionary definition, ESPECIALLY WHEN I GAVE YOU THE DEFINTION I WAS USING! 12/30/2013 8:34:07 PM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0 12/30/2013 8:54:34 PM
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Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
disco_stu's definition overrides the definition provided by a universally accepted dictionary. 12/30/2013 9:01:23 PM
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rjrumfel All American 23068 Posts user info edit post |
lol
Smath pulls out the merriam fucking webster dictionary, and fuck if that isn't good enough. Because it isn't the right dictionary and the right definition.
You people are hilariously hypocritical. 12/30/2013 9:02:14 PM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
It's not unfair if people strongly dislike the Christian belief that gays should be put to death 12/30/2013 9:04:02 PM
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disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "disco_stu's definition overrides the definition provided by a universally accepted dictionary." |
When disco_stu is using the word it sure as fuck does.
You know what, I'm done. If you don't agree that the meaning of words is based on their usage and when someone tells you exactly how they're using a word you break out the dictionary you're a dishonest fuck not worthy of conversation.
[Edited on December 30, 2013 at 9:07 PM. Reason : .] 12/30/2013 9:06:19 PM
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rjrumfel All American 23068 Posts user info edit post |
I don't like stupid people. By your definition, stupid people can't help that they're stupid. Does that make me a bigot. 12/30/2013 9:07:17 PM
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Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you don't agree that the meaning of words is based on their usage and when someone tells you exactly how they're using a word you break out the dictionary you're a dishonest fuck not worthy of conversation." |
What you are referring to is called "context."
What you did was simply define a word to your liking. There was no context. You chose to accept a different definition.
I suppose we should look up dishonest for you because you clearly have a different definition for that word too... 12/30/2013 9:18:02 PM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
he should stay in TSB and talk about dead babies and circumcision
this is what happens when he ventures out and dtownral isnt around to bail him out
[Edited on December 30, 2013 at 9:52 PM. Reason : -] 12/30/2013 9:52:01 PM
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AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
I define "Nazi" as anyone who disagrees with me.
And if you disagree with my definition, then kick rocks you damn Nazi. 12/30/2013 11:06:14 PM
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disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't like stupid people. By your definition, stupid people can't help that they're stupid. Does that make me a bigot." |
Genetically stupid, then absolutely you're a bigot. Willfully ignorant like all of you, not at all.
Quote : | "What you are referring to is called "context."
What you did was simply define a word to your liking. There was no context. You chose to accept a different definition.
I suppose we should look up dishonest for you because you clearly have a different definition for that word too..." |
Meaning is based off of usage. It doesn't matter what is written in a god-damned dictionary.
V, where's the dispute when I specifically explain how I'm using the word?
[Edited on December 30, 2013 at 11:16 PM. Reason : .] 12/30/2013 11:06:49 PM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
does your dictionary have the phrase "semantic dispute"?
[Edited on December 30, 2013 at 11:36 PM. Reason : ^in their ass] 12/30/2013 11:08:01 PM
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carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Some of you seem to have this conception of bigotry only involving vehement disagreement or dislike. But it's not. As any dictionary definition would indicate, implicitly or explicitly, bigotry is a view that is unfair, unjust, prejudicial, racist, or the like.
Hating someone for something they cannot change fits with this. Hating someone who hates someone for something they cannot change is not bigotry per se, no matter how much you want to call people who are against your views bigots. It's the same with intolerance. 12/30/2013 11:33:50 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148819 Posts user info edit post |
If I hate Muslims since they choose to be Muslims, does it make me a bigot?
I don't hate Muslims, just making sure we're on the same page
[Edited on December 30, 2013 at 11:47 PM. Reason : .] 12/30/2013 11:46:34 PM
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BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
I'm also gonna need clarification on Catholics and Jews. 12/31/2013 12:00:10 AM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148819 Posts user info edit post |
If Muslims hate homosexuals more than Christians hate homosexuals, should we all hate Muslims, while not being bigots?
[Edited on December 31, 2013 at 12:05 AM. Reason : Bill of Rights vs. Semantic Definitions according to TWWers...hmm..tough call] 12/31/2013 12:03:12 AM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You know what, I'm done." |
- disco_stu
Liar. 12/31/2013 12:07:27 AM
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theDuke866 All American 52895 Posts user info edit post |
i hate all of you motherfuckers for perpetuating the discussion of fuckin' Duck Dynasty. I mean, really, what the fuck? Let's talk about Home Shopping Network or something. 12/31/2013 12:27:21 AM
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jcg15 All American 2131 Posts user info edit post |
GREAT SHOW....
FOR ME TO POOP ON LOLOLOL AMIRITE GUYS? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Seriously though, good wholesome family entertainment, I don't care how Phil objects to synapse's lifestyle...their pretend redneck hijinx is laugh out loud funny. Just like my posts, yadig? 12/31/2013 12:35:18 AM
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synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't care how Phil objects to synapse's lifestyle" |
Technically it's "our lifestyle" you self-hater. 12/31/2013 12:54:11 AM
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AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
I was in a little bit of an odd place when it came to this controversy.
I really like the show, I didn't think what Phil said was that big of a deal, and I thought A&E had every right to suspend him obviously but getting rid of him would have been an overreation.
On the other hand, I don't care for Phil at all and I think the show could be better without him anyway. 12/31/2013 1:30:52 AM
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moron All American 34445 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Que? Saying one guy is from Salt Lake City and another is "blatantly racist?" Since when is a city blatantly racist. You are attributing far more to his words to make them "blatantly racist" than what he actually said, unless "blatantly" mans something different to you than it does to me..." |
Haha surely you're joking? 12/31/2013 2:40:54 AM
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jackleg All American 170962 Posts user info edit post |
synapse is a homo?
[Edited on December 31, 2013 at 10:42 AM. Reason : and he's not a mod in this section, right? lol] 12/31/2013 10:41:43 AM
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moron All American 34445 Posts user info edit post |
^ is he?
I bought an alarm clock from him, I bet it has gay sex all over it. 12/31/2013 3:21:50 PM
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beatsunc All American 10768 Posts user info edit post |
oh look, they have their own line of guns
here be an ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFIX6Palc9E&feature=share&list=PLbseTHRyg6oblxY0p4nKEX6v3UVlAuzfh&index=1 1/2/2014 4:51:59 PM
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Kickstand All American 11735 Posts user info edit post |
![](https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1503874_407477132718804_78359836_n.jpg)
1/2/2014 5:25:36 PM
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laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
they had their 15 minutes, now they have oversaturated the market and just need to go away 1/2/2014 6:30:47 PM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
they are currently making a shit ton of money for themselves, their business, and A&E. Yep, time to stop. 1/2/2014 6:54:07 PM
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moron All American 34445 Posts user info edit post |
They also provide safe-harbor for garbage-brained idiots that want to reject evolution and hate on the gays.
in the free-market of ideas, stupidity has too good of a fighting chance sometimes. 1/2/2014 8:01:15 PM
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rjrumfel All American 23068 Posts user info edit post |
I should be used to it by now, but it never ceases to amaze me - the amount of hatred on this site for Christians. #partyoftolerance 1/2/2014 9:09:21 PM
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AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
In similar but opposite news, Chris Kluwe, a punter for the Vikings, claims he was cut from the team because of his comments in support of gay marriage.
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2014/01/punter-chris-kluwe-says-he-was-released-by-vikings-for-supporting-equal-rights.html
It's pretty much the same issue but I wonder how each side of the Duck Dynasty scandal would frame this one. 1/3/2014 2:55:28 AM
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Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
![](http://i.imgur.com/5XksHQ1.png)
Dumb Dynasty, lol.
[Edited on January 4, 2014 at 1:03 PM. Reason : l]
1/4/2014 1:02:56 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39464 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I should be used to it by now, but it never ceases to amaze me - the amount of hatred on this site for Christians. #partyoftolerance" |
you do realize that there's a difference in disagreeing with Christianity and disagreeing with something a Christian says, right?
neither of which amount to hatred
[Edited on January 4, 2014 at 1:15 PM. Reason : but that persecution, tho ] 1/4/2014 1:10:47 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53257 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yes, gay marriage and civil unions were illegal. You could have googled that shit or looked in a dictionary before trying to call someone out like that." |
No, they weren't. No one was thrown in jail or fined or even prosecuted for saying they were married to someone of the same sex. Go google the word "illegal" before you make such a baseless claim.
Quote : | "If you hate someone for something they have no control over, that's bigotry.
Tell me what's wrong with this definition before we continue this conversation." |
Good, you now seem to understand that bigotry requires hatred. Now, explain how merely believing that a given action is wrong, is bigotry.
Quote : | "^^Christians have controlled Western Civilization for almost 2000 years. I'm not impressed with the dictionary definition, ESPECIALLY WHEN I GAVE YOU THE DEFINTION I WAS USING!" |
You don't get to change the meaning of a word and then get mad when someone doesn't accept it, lol. Bigotry is not limited only towards conditions where the person has no choice.
Quote : | "You know what, I'm done. If you don't agree that the meaning of words is based on their usage and when someone tells you exactly how they're using a word you break out the dictionary you're a dishonest fuck not worthy of conversation." |
By your logic, he's not a bigot to me, because a bigot is a jelly sandwich with mushrooms on it, placed on the head of a cat and photographed.
Quote : | "Haha surely you're joking?" |
No, I'm not; what does one city location verses another, stated solely like that, have to do with racism?
^^ >.< hahaha
^ you do realize that there's a major difference between "disagreeing with Christianity" and calling anyone who practices it "stupid", right?
One of those most certainly amounts to a level of hatred, at least by the usual Democratic definition.] 1/4/2014 1:15:16 PM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
this is when aaronburro starts his ridiculous paper towel/napkin semantics argument that worked so well for Rick Santorum
also, gay sex is literally still illegal in Louisiana and carries a 5 year prison sentence! they haven't removed the law even after the Supreme Court struck down anti-sodomy laws in 2003 and are literally still arresting people for it! 1/4/2014 2:53:05 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53257 Posts user info edit post |
This is when baldy starts his trolling again.
If Louisiana is actually still arresting homosexuals, I'd say it's bullshit. But you'll quickly find that none of those arrests stick. Thus, it's not illegal.
And it's not ridiculous to point out when people are using words incorrectly. Their doing so distorts the issue and makes an emotional appeal where it is not needed or fit. There's a world of difference between "not recognized by the state" and "thrown in jail for it". Intentional improper use of the word "illegal" is meant to draw on that difference. So, no, if someone can't use a word correctly, I'll call him out on it, just like disco_stu trying to pretend his definition of bigotry was the one that mattered.] 1/4/2014 3:07:01 PM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
so if i started arresting christians, its all good since the charges wouldn't stick?
Quote : | " Intentional improper use of the word "illegal" is meant to draw on that difference" |
its literally illegal in louisiana, i have no idea what usage of illegal doesn't fit. there are literally laws against it,so it is against the law-- it is illegal.
your semantics arguments are cute, ask Santorum how it worked out for him
[Edited on January 4, 2014 at 3:55 PM. Reason : baldy? wat?] 1/4/2014 3:53:18 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53257 Posts user info edit post |
well, I imagine that you wouldn't get very far, as you have no constabulary powers, but it would be humourous to watch you try. But then again, I guess you didn't see the part where I said "it's bullshit", so you'll just keep arguing.
as for your second statement, it's a wonderful red herring, considering I was talking about someone claiming gay marriage was illegal in "every state of America" in 1998. Talking about arcane laws that aren't enforced is a beautiful diversion, but cut it out. 1/4/2014 3:58:44 PM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
so now you are making fun of your own point as a red herring and division?
okay, i mean i can't really argue with that
[Edited on January 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM. Reason : division = diversion autocorrect] 1/4/2014 4:00:58 PM
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Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit post |
red herring arguments are red herrings for subject changes.
BUT THIS TIME THE HERRING DID IT 1/4/2014 4:04:36 PM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
its all fine until that red herring wants to marry another dude red herring
...that's when aaronburro puts on his sweater vest and grabs his merriam webster dictionary! 1/4/2014 4:05:49 PM
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