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"exactly. if TOB hadn't told wilson to drop baseball or GTFO, glennon would have been the one playing in wisconsin last year (and this year)."

Glennon would've had to sit a year if he transferred

8/26/2012 11:08:34 PM

Glad he didn't let someone beneath him like TOB prevent him from fulfilling his promise to his dad to make it in the NFL.

If you are a superstar, you always have to be wary of less-talented people trying to hold you down out of jealousy.

8/26/2012 11:08:40 PM

I honestly didn't think he'd make it, and that was purely based on his size. RW's extremely talented and athletic. I think it's pretty cool he's doing as well as he is. It's too bad there's still some lingering issues with how he left and all that. It is what it is and everybody that was actually involved seems to have all moved on pretty well. We're actually doing alright with Glennon, and RW's looking like a starting NFL QB. I say heck yeah go Wolpfackbadgerwtfever.

8/26/2012 11:09:56 PM

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"Glennon would've had to sit a year if he transferred"

false. glennon had graduated and would've been eligible immediately.

8/26/2012 11:15:33 PM

We'd have had 1-3 more wins last season, Glennon would have gone to Wisconsin, Broscius would be starting this year, Wilson would have been a 7-8th round pick

in a different world

8/26/2012 11:32:59 PM

He went in the 2nd rd of my fantasy draft today

8/26/2012 11:49:53 PM

lol - i took him with the next-to-mr.-irrelevant pick in my draft simply because i figured carroll was going to start him and i needed trade bait

also

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"was Breeze's size"

[Edited on August 27, 2012 at 12:12 AM. Reason : .]

8/27/2012 12:09:36 AM

pissed i didnt get him to be my #4 QB in our 2QB league. Thought I'd get him for like $2-$3 but he went for $16!

8/27/2012 12:42:01 AM

Don't know if it was mentioned last page but he was officially named starter today

8/27/2012 2:17:57 AM

i went searching for him with my next to last pick. I figured nobody would take a chance on a qb for the seahawks...little did i know he was gone and all that time i thought i was fucking up the search...

same guy has tim tebow as his backup qb

8/27/2012 2:49:27 AM

He's starting so we can lock this thread and make a Official Russell Wilson Rookie of the Year Watch 2012.

8/27/2012 8:40:03 AM

^ I took the "field" at 8:1 odds for $50 to win $400. (RW is part of the field).


I have $100 on RGIII at 6:1 and $200 on Luck at 3:1 already. debating on putting more on RW. I think he will be the best of the 3 this year and the Seahawks will win the most games.

I could see RGIII winning over him though just because of the major market and all the attention the Skins get.

8/27/2012 1:30:13 PM

This news really Russelled my jimmies.


... I'll see myself out.

8/27/2012 1:34:52 PM

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"false. glennon had graduated and would've been eligible immediately."

I had no idea Glennon had already graduated before last season started, my bad

8/27/2012 1:42:15 PM

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"Expectations for Russell Wilson By Matt Williamson ESPN.com Russell Wilson Russell Wilson has been extremely sharp this preseason for the Seattle Seahawks. Pete Carroll is a coach who loves competition among his players. And throughout the 2012 NFL preseason, no team has had more competition among its quarterbacks than the Seattle Seahawks. With last year's starter, Tarvaris Jackson, on the way out to Buffalo, the Seahawks' starting QB this year was either going to be third-round draft pick Russell Wilson or free-agent signing Matt Flynn. After the big contract given to Flynn this offseason, most presumed that the competition Carroll was holding was simply to light a fire under Flynn and force him to win the job. Flynn would be the starter this year and Wilson the future No. 1. After Wilson's performance against Kansas City on Friday night, though, he was named the Week 1 starter Sunday night. But just how good can Wilson be in Year 1 for a team with playoff hopes? What are realistic expectations for Wilson and how far can he lead the Seahawks? First of all, it's impressive that Wilson won the job in the first place. Even though he hasn't started a lot of games in the NFL, Flynn is a solid QB and the most reliable option Seattle has at the position. He looks like the type of smart, professional quarterback who won't make a lot of mistakes and won't lose games for Seattle, a team that has an elite defense and should have a strong power running game led by Marshawn Lynch. Even in limited views, I think the Seahawks know what they have in Flynn. But is that enough to get them to where they inevitably want to go? Wilson is a rookie, and he does have shortcomings. Yes, he is very short for the position (though he finds throwing windows well) and obviously inexperienced at this level. Although he is refined, he will struggle reading defenses, recognizing blitz packages and adjusting to the overall speed of the game. But his potential trumps Flynn's reliability. He is a passer first, but his athletic ability and the threat he poses to a defense with his legs simply can't be ignored. On third-and-long, if the play call breaks down, Wilson can scamper for a first down and extend the drive. Seattle can also call designed running plays for him. Athletic quarterbacks not only enhance a running game with their legs, but also can make a ton of room for running backs, as edge defenders will be much more hesitant to crash the inside run because the threat of Wilson keeping the ball and running off tackle. Seattle's offensive line does concern me from a pass protection standpoint. But I expect the Seahawks to move Wilson with designed quarterback movement, something that will cut down on Wilson's reads and allow him a clearer sight line to his receivers. Defenses must honor Wilson's athletic skills, and those athletic skills will open up room and create better matchups for the Seattle's other offensive players. While the plays Wilson can create with his legs are great -- and a very nice fallback as he transitions to the game at this level -- it's Wilson's passing that truly sets him apart from Flynn. And it will be those passing skills that define his career at the most important position on the field, as he learns to read NFL defenses and understand that he doesn't have to take over a game and try to make big plays on every snap. Wilson can really sling it. The ball explodes out of his hands and he can drive the ball downfield. That isn't true for Flynn. When playing against Wilson, the defense truly has to defend the entire field. Wilson was given the opportunity to start the critical third preseason game, which often is the first time the respective teams game plan for one another. And Wilson sealed the starting job with a terrific performance. Against a good Chiefs defense, Wilson was decisive with his reads and stepped into his throws with authority. He threw well outside the numbers, showing off his excellent arm strength and the velocity he can create. Wilson wasn't ultra-conservative, either, and was unafraid to take shots downfield. Early in the second quarter on third-and-7, Wilson got immediate pressure from the Chiefs' edge pass-rushers. He was very quick to pull the ball down and take off up the middle, resulting in a 31-yard gain before going out of bounds untouched. That is a great example of his playmaking skill, but also what he brings to the table while he is learning to deal with blitz pressure without ever putting his body in harm's way. He finished the game with 58 rushing yards, and such production on the ground should be routine throughout the 2012 season. Against Kansas City's first-team defense, Wilson produced points on six consecutive drives and Seattle's offense scored 30 points. He also orchestrated a fantastic two-minute drill that resulted in a touchdown to finish the first half. In his first three games in an NFL jersey -- albeit preseason -- Wilson has completed 67.3 percent of his passes and thrown five touchdowns, with just one interception. He posted similar outstanding numbers at Wisconsin last year. For all the above reasons, Wilson is the correct choice to be the Seahawks' opening-day starter. In fact, I like the Seahawks to win the NFC West and for Carroll to win Coach of the Year, mostly based off this decision to go with Wilson as his starting quarterback. Can the Seahawks be a true Super Bowl contender with Wilson behind center? That might be pushing it. With such a great defense, Seattle won't initially need to demand a ton from him in order to win games. Wilson rarely throws interceptions and protects the ball well. I expect the Seahawks to use a formula much like the one San Francisco used a year ago, and Wilson could quickly become the best quarterback in this division. But all young quarterbacks will have their struggles, and the offense has some questions with the line and the overall cast of receivers. Look for Seattle to make the playoffs this season, and be much better set for the future because of this decision to start Wilson now. "

8/27/2012 2:03:08 PM

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"I had no idea Glennon had already graduated before last season started, my bad"

yep, it wasn't publicized like wilson graduating, but you can bet your ass that glennon told TOB that if wilson came back he was out of here.

8/27/2012 3:04:12 PM

^ yeah, it was a tough decision but he made the wrong one and there's nothing we can do about it now except hope Glennon has a miracle year and that our team doesn't suck this year.

8/27/2012 3:18:16 PM

they see me troooolllllliiiiiiiiin

8/27/2012 3:41:07 PM

i hope glennon has a miracle year.


and wins the heisman.

8/27/2012 3:44:03 PM

fuck face

[Edited on August 27, 2012 at 3:46 PM. Reason : and his alias skooiann]

8/27/2012 3:45:52 PM

if we had RW last year, we would've probably contended for the ACC title

then this year, we'd have about a 6-win ceiling

8/27/2012 3:46:22 PM

God damn it, his wikipedia page has a picture of him at Wisconsin and the quick stats says he went to Wisconsin only

8/27/2012 4:18:02 PM

he came to State's almuni day (or whatever it was called)

8/27/2012 4:19:22 PM

^^^oh really? did RW play defense, too?

With RW, we *might* have won the WF game. I don't see any reason to believe the results would have been different in our other losses given how bad we were defensively in those games.

Y'all have some short/selective memories. There really wasn't much of a dropoff from RW to Glennon. They are completely different QBs, and thus have different strengths/liabilities, but the delta between them was not significant enough to have changed the outcome for our losses, with the possible exception of the WFU game.

But then again, we haven't won there in this century, so @NC_state_shit would have kept that a loss anyway.

[Edited on August 27, 2012 at 4:19 PM. Reason : .]

8/27/2012 4:19:30 PM

i'm willing to say/concede that we probably would've had a better record last year with RW

but i'm also all aboard with TOB's decision

8/27/2012 4:21:58 PM

someone fix his wikipedia page

8/27/2012 4:23:40 PM

Don't be crazy. Glennon was awful against Wake, BC, Cincy, FSU, UNC (yeah i realize we won this one despite glennon).

We had a shot at the ACC crown and we chose to pass it up because we thought we had a better shot this year for some reason.

Now it's looking awfully damn unlikely and everyone's trying to justify it with "yeah but we didn't know Russell was THAT good!"

[Edited on August 27, 2012 at 4:26 PM. Reason : a]

8/27/2012 4:24:57 PM

ITT face thinks the Wolfpack have Wisconsin's offensive line and running game

8/27/2012 4:26:58 PM

Re-read my post. I didn't say anything about a running game.

8/27/2012 4:27:57 PM

I don't recall any losses due to Glennon's performance

8/27/2012 4:28:35 PM

you could argue BC as well, i'll agree with that.

We weren't beating FSU with RW or MG, and thus there was no ACC contention to really argue about.

so at most you can argue whether we'd be 8-5 or 10-3.

8/27/2012 4:29:25 PM

and Glennon didn't cause us to get PEAD ON by cincy. our injury-depleted line was the culprit for that one.

8/27/2012 4:37:09 PM

ok, so basically you're saying that with Russell Wilson we could have won the ACC.

We beat Wake and BC and we're playing VT for the title.



The revisionist history on this board is amazing. Everyone admits we were significantly worse last year with Glennon than Wilson. Everyone admits this year we are significantly better with Glennon than Brosius or whoever else would have played.

The argument is. We could have competed for the ACC title last year by playing one of the best QB's in ACC history.

Instead we chose to tank last season and go for it this year. Now do we look competitive to anyone? Not me. Things can change, but it's a pretty huge longshot, agreed?

It backfired if we aren't competitive this year.





And LOL at the "we had no chance against FSU with Russell Wilson. That's just a loser attitude. Wilson lit FSU up the last two seasons. Just because Glennon couldn't do ANYTHING that game (Seriously, he was under 4 yards per pass!) doesn't mean Wilson sucks out the joint.


Glennon isn't mobile enough to buy time and he takes sacks all game. He's got a huge arm but he kills a ton of drives with his sacks, tipped passes, etc. Yes he makes a few great throws and I definitely think he has an NFL career ahead of him. But he's never going to be Russell Wilson. Not in college. Not in the NFL. It's just not going to happen. Wilson is a superstar and may soon be the most famous alum in NC State football history. And we kicked the fucking guy off the team. Do you realize how dumb that sounds to everyone else on the planet?

[Edited on August 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM. Reason : a]

8/27/2012 4:38:10 PM

stop whining and trolling, martin

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"That's just a loser attitude."

and crying about something that happened over a year ago is a bitch attitude.

[Edited on August 27, 2012 at 4:44 PM. Reason : ]

8/27/2012 4:43:32 PM

ah yes

8/27/2012 4:44:02 PM

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"Instead we chose to tank last season"

lol

8/27/2012 4:48:01 PM

TOB isn't going to be able to live this one down if we aren't good this year.

We go 7-5, 4-4 as predicted and the boo birds will already be out.

After this year the cupboard is bare. We're in for some really weak teams. I don't see Debbie putting up with it. He's out of here within 3 years without at least an ACC title appearance this year.

His struggles have been covered up by RW/Glennon. A great QB can hide a lot of flaws. Problem is that it's hard to have a great QB every year.

[Edited on August 27, 2012 at 4:50 PM. Reason : a]

8/27/2012 4:48:15 PM

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"After this year the cupboard is bare."

and in your revisionist history, after last season the cupboard would be bare

face, quick, without looking it up, who was Alabama's QB last year

[Edited on August 27, 2012 at 4:50 PM. Reason : .]

8/27/2012 4:49:13 PM

^ i have no idea. Was it that fratty guy with three names still?

I don't keep up with college football, I'm an NFL fan.

8/27/2012 4:51:31 PM

i dont remember his name either, yet they won the national championship

8/27/2012 4:54:03 PM

Glad I picked Russell for my Fantasy team...

8/27/2012 4:59:14 PM

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"I don't keep up with college football"

this much is obvious.

8/27/2012 4:59:39 PM

Goddamnit Bobby, you're messing me up here.

8/27/2012 5:00:08 PM

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"I'm never afraid to excel"

it's almost like hes talking to someone who has their goal in life as going 8-4

8/27/2012 5:04:22 PM

look at face, still trolling sports talk about russel Wilson, over a year later.

8/27/2012 5:18:31 PM

^ Not sure if you've noticed but he's starting on an NFL team this year.

He's got a great shot at winning Rookie of the Year and if he can stay healthy could become an elite NFL QB.


And we cut him. For a guy that played really well against Maryland.

8/27/2012 5:20:57 PM

Florida cut Cam Newton for a guy who can't throw

Fire Urban Meyer

8/27/2012 5:29:14 PM

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"And we cut him."

Not even close face.

8/27/2012 5:53:48 PM

Fine, we "released" him.

Semantics are so cool.


Bottom line, TOB isn't going to be able to live this one down. Wilson will be one of the most famous football players in the world in a few months. When the public finds out he went to NC State before we got rid of him it's going to be huge news.

This "who is the best rookie QB?" debate between RGIII, Wilson, and Luck is going to be one of the lead NFL headlines all year.

[Edited on August 27, 2012 at 6:09 PM. Reason : a]

8/27/2012 6:08:18 PM

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"Wilson will be one of the most famous football players in the world"

8/27/2012 6:13:25 PM