already done


[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM. Reason : ]

2/3/2013 10:59:46 AM

does a scope count as a "military feature?" red dot? acog? etc?

how about "tactical flashlights" and lasers?

2/3/2013 11:47:30 AM

no

why don't you just read feinstein's bill?

2/3/2013 11:48:30 AM

^^^that's cool but would be better if obama was shooting a bushmaster

2/3/2013 11:49:29 AM

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/obama-skeet-shooting-photo/photos

2/3/2013 11:52:27 AM

^thanks





[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 11:57 AM. Reason : a]

2/3/2013 11:56:55 AM

2/3/2013 12:08:03 PM

There's also a photoshop of him about to launch a drone

2/3/2013 12:15:35 PM

Quote :

"A MAN shot someone with a gun. QUICK, OUTLAW Guns. Hundreds of people die everyday fighting over drug money. Well if we legalize marijuana that wouldn't happen anymore. How is this type of logic running our country???"

Cuz man, nobody is about to take away all the guns guns. I will hope to own a gun one day and hunt in the great frontiers. People are only talking about banning guns that facilitate in mass shootings.

2/3/2013 12:28:02 PM

Quote :

"People are only talking about banning guns that facilitate in mass shootings."

no, that would be handguns. they want to ban the scary looking rifles










[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM. Reason : h]

2/3/2013 12:29:45 PM

Quote :

"^^ That dude is full of shit, you dont kill innocent people unless you are mentally ill."

ITT, people's definition of mentally ill has nothing to do with the clinical definition.

2/3/2013 12:53:51 PM

^
I have to agree with this. evil =/= crazy.

2/3/2013 12:58:57 PM

Hand guns serve multiple purposes, though, by DESIGN. Assault riffles only serve one purpose, which is as a military assault weapon. How the NRA lobbyist even made it constitutional for civis to own these things is beyond me.

Gun enthusiast are stuck on their one agrument, which is "OMG the fed is taking my guns away" This is not the case and it never will be. The issue is to put some regulation on what the average, untrained citizen has access to.

2/3/2013 1:53:16 PM

2/3/2013 2:05:17 PM

Quote :

"How the NRA lobbyist even made it constitutional for civis to own these things is beyond me."

wtf are you talking about? the NRA didnt exist when the bill of rights was written.

2/3/2013 2:07:35 PM

2/3/2013 2:14:23 PM

Self Sacrifice.

In both two previous post, assault weapons could easily be substituted for a non assault weapon and be just as effective. Hunting (lawd some many options) and home defense (hand gun/shot gun). But the persistence of assault riffles for peace of mind is the problem. They are really only needed for one purpose.

2/3/2013 2:21:19 PM

so you admit that there is no meaningful difference that makes the scary black rifles more "deadly"?

[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 2:23 PM. Reason : SX]

2/3/2013 2:22:59 PM

.223 defense ammunition (aka super deadly high power AR-15 bullets ) is less likely to penetrate walls than any of the handgun rounds popular for home defense.

they yaw and break apart on impact. the AR is better than a handgun for home defense.

[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 2:26 PM. Reason : adsf]

2/3/2013 2:25:48 PM

this guy's daughter was at the newtown school and made some good points

http://youtu.be/OVPaNotpSS0

2/3/2013 2:27:28 PM

Quote :

"o you admit that there is no meaningful difference that makes the scary black rifles more "deadly"?"

Of course there is a difference. It is their purpose that is the problem. They are not needed for civis. You don't need one for hunting, just like some jo doesn't need one to protect his house.

2/3/2013 2:30:15 PM

what makes them more "deadly"?

[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 2:32 PM. Reason : what are the specific features that make it unsuitable for civilian use?]

2/3/2013 2:31:25 PM

^didnt you know pistol grips on rifles and folding stocks kill people?

2/3/2013 2:41:06 PM

shut up and let him answer

2/3/2013 2:41:31 PM

That dad should be at least fined for not securing his guns, and fined again for not securing his guns and having kids in his house.

[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 2:42 PM. Reason : maybe arrested]

2/3/2013 2:41:38 PM

or maybe he should be commended for teaching his 15 year old son how to defend himself

2/3/2013 2:42:15 PM

Weren't you just saying you'd never let your kids have access to your guns?

If the newtwon shooter's mom locked her guns from her nutty family, that might not have happened. If people locked their guns up, they would be less likely to get stolen and wind up "in the hands of criminals™".

2/3/2013 2:43:49 PM

i don't think so. perhaps you have me confused with someone else.



[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 2:45 PM. Reason : keep blaming the victim]

2/3/2013 2:44:36 PM

And in the Lounge gun thread, you guys always talking about stopping power. That AR hit the guy multiple times and didn't drop him, if the criminal had a gun (didn't seem to be the case) the AR would have put the kids AND neighbors in MORE danger.

Those kids were just lucky, the guns didn't make them safer, it was pure chance.

2/3/2013 2:45:44 PM

so now you're saying the AR isn't powerful enough for home defense?

i'm confused

2/3/2013 2:47:12 PM

So for all the gun owners here, how many times have you had to use your gun for self defense and could it have been avoided in the first place?

2/3/2013 2:47:15 PM

never, thankfully

[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 2:48 PM. Reason : normally folks scoff at anecdotal evidence and you're actually requesting it]

2/3/2013 2:47:34 PM

my house is 500 feet from the police station so a criminal would have to be extraordinarily stupid to make me have to use one of my guns for home defense thankfully

2/3/2013 2:50:18 PM

i'd carry a cop instead, but they're kinda heavy

2/3/2013 2:51:43 PM

still waiting on banjoman to tell me what makes an AR variant unsuitable for civilian ownership

2/3/2013 2:53:56 PM

Quote :

"so now you're saying the AR isn't powerful enough for home defense? "

No gun is inherently "good" for home defense. It's just a security blanket for adults.

The only thing that can stop a good guy with a gun is a bad guy with a gun.

2/3/2013 2:54:12 PM

It is hilarious how quickly these discussion switch from assault weapons to home defense. Apples and oranges.

2/3/2013 2:54:39 PM

i guess i'll just have to take your word for it

TELL ME WHY THE AR-15 AND ITS VARIANTS ARE NOT GOOD HOME DEFENSE WEAPONS, THEN

[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 2:55 PM. Reason : DFAS]

[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM. Reason : is it because it's too similar to what professionals use?]

2/3/2013 2:54:48 PM

Are you asking me?

I don't generally support the AWBs as proposed by our legislators.

A good gun is based on personal preference. A big burly guy might prefer something with more oomph like a shotgun, a punk kid might feel more badass with his AR, a dainty girl might prefer a small caliber revolver, etc.. Whatever blanket makes you feel more warm and fuzzy.

2/3/2013 3:02:26 PM

no, i wasn't asking you

[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 3:04 PM. Reason : with your victim mentality. it's sad, really.]

2/3/2013 3:02:55 PM

still waiting

2/3/2013 3:10:40 PM

The scenario where you would be forced to rely on an AW to protect your house is pretty outlandish, which is something that is frequently brought up. So yeah, if you are having a Quentin Tarantino raid on your house, you are gonna need your AKs and hand grenades...maybee some back up. Who knows if the untrained/novice civi would be able to even handle something like that.

Typically, People that are at risk for such security breeches usually resort to dogs and guards instead of putting an AW under their pillow.

Also, none of you gun slingers at all seem to care or consider the real danger of the escalation of violence. For people that are so proud of being american, there is a shocking lack of concern for anything outside of one's own bubble.

2/3/2013 7:27:58 PM

rare scenario? people have been defending their property with rifles for years. since "assault weapons" are just rifles, I see no difference here

2/3/2013 7:37:54 PM

BanjoMan still hasn't answered NRR's question.
What makes an "assault" weapon any more deadly and a non assault weapon?

2/3/2013 9:16:20 PM

because it has "assault" in the title

2/3/2013 9:18:00 PM

[image]http:// http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yi5RldFFcMk/TSM0-Wsf0HI/AAAAAAAAAq4/WKhWeXVMr9I/s1600/rock.salt.2.JPG[/image]

for a salt shotgun

2/3/2013 9:22:30 PM

These commercials all suck

Quote :

"CRACK AND GANGNAM"

2/3/2013 9:30:17 PM

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/03/white-house-dared-people-to-photoshop-obamas-gun-picture-and-did-they-ever/

[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 9:32 PM. Reason : shit]

[Edited on February 3, 2013 at 9:34 PM. Reason : shit again]

2/3/2013 9:31:10 PM

Quote :

"because it has "assault" in the title"

That's what it sounds like to me.

2/3/2013 9:46:48 PM

Set em up --------------->

2/3/2013 9:47:42 PM