They care about actual grades... just not how they are given.

4/16/2015 11:27:29 AM

I'd really like to pick up Ennis.

and Washington mentioned the team was going in a different direction than what he wanted...

Guess he meant less shooting by our centers.

4/16/2015 11:47:44 AM

“@jerrywyrick: We need to recruit hard every year.....The staff got lazy this year and now put us in a bad situation.”** smh, are you blind?

— Julius Hodge (@Follow24Hodge) April 16, 2015

4/16/2015 11:50:26 AM

We were deep and loaded looking at next year. You can't get great players to come in a year or two in advance (which is when you start recruiting guys for this years class)...unless you have a crystal fucking ball and know that Lacey and Washington are going to leave. You don't know what kind of year Lacey is going to have...he's not a Rodney Hood transfer type guy who said he only wanted to play one year and knew he was going to be a first round pick.

And you couldn't have predicted Washington a year in advance either.

Bottom line is that the game is changing. At the same time, the post-grad transfer game is huge now too...so we better jump on that shit. And/or really go after Newman hard.

4/16/2015 12:02:53 PM

^^^or actually trying to play defense. He was prolly sold that we would be getting out and running and gunning. However, we don't really have the personnel for that, so we're stuck in a more traditional half court/defense type game. Which he is not very good at

4/16/2015 12:08:36 PM

Quote :

"Kyle Washington: "I just felt like the team was going in a different direction. I will always love NC State for the dedicated fans, the academic standards, and Raleigh in general, but this was the best decision for my family and I.""

4/16/2015 12:13:19 PM

Yeah, looks like to me that Gottfried wants to establish a big man post up game instead of Washington's midrange game, which I am cool with.

my DREAM scenario now is:
Newman comes in to replace Lacey
Ingram replaces Washington
Ennis replaces Wallace/Lee

4/16/2015 12:17:51 PM

Ennis cut his list to several teams (including Duke, LSU) and we're nowhere to be found. So barring a last minute run, he's out.

4/16/2015 12:26:02 PM

Unless something crazy happens I doubt we pick up a top recruit. My hope is for a post-grad PG that can back-up Cat (was honestly hoping for this with or without Lacey next year).

With Cat, Henderson, Martin twins, Abu, Freeman/Anya we'll be more athletic next season so we might see the defense improve and offense we'll be shooting less 3's, and probably be looking to drive the ball more into the paint. Should lead to more rebounding opportunities for Abu/Freeman/Anya as well.

4/16/2015 12:46:03 PM

Got excited thinking we'd finally have some depth and experience. Should have known better.

4/16/2015 1:07:05 PM

rebuilding year

whatever

4/16/2015 1:16:59 PM

lol this year was a rebuilding year.

With this one and done and transfer culture we are in, every year is rebuilding for next year.

Damn, that sucks that Ennis is out. Someone his size and ability would have worked out well.

Duke will probably get him.

I think Coach K has finally figured out the whole one and one game...Gottfried is big in the transfer world. I'd like to see a good mix of both.

4/16/2015 1:20:52 PM

I think we'll be a solid team next year even with all the attrition. I really can't wait and see how the twins develop because as freshmen they already show a glimpse of their potential, they're really versatile players. If they can improve their scoring and defense then they'll be headaches of any team to deal with. I'm looking forward to seeing Abu make a huge improvement and also wish Anya will become a bigger scoring threat. Add Henderson, Cat, and a transfer and/or late recruit and we'll be OK. Cat, Henderson, and Caleb can shoot the 3 ball, but wish Got recruits another sniper shooter.

4/16/2015 2:08:54 PM

^^^ennis missed that wide open 3 to put them ahead of us right?
a.) dont want that on my team
b.) I guess with moments like that he would have fit right into the NC State shit culture.

4/16/2015 2:19:32 PM

Front page on ESPN NCAAB
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/

PR is PR I guess...

4/19/2015 2:36:25 PM

Quote :

"lol this year was a rebuilding year. With this one and done and transfer culture we are in, every year is rebuilding for next year. "

This is becoming the problem with our program is that we are kind of this in between school. We are not a Duke or Kentucky where we are getting the one and done guys that matter. We are getting guys who think they are a little better than they actually are and end up being this in between guy who leaves early to go play in the D league (TJ is the exception here). This is constantly leaving us in bad positions as far as progressing. The reason all these other teams like Miami and Florida State have managed to win the ACC is because they get that one year where their roster is full of experienced guys to make the final push. We keep getting close to that year but then it gets blown up.

Now granted this has been much more exciting than the Lowe era dont get me wrong, but if we want to ever get another ACC title we are either gonna have to find a way to recruit the best guys in the country, or figure out how to keep a core group together long enough to reach its full potential.

4/20/2015 8:57:01 AM

^ damn. spot on

4/20/2015 9:23:49 AM

Quote :

"my DREAM scenario now is: Newman comes in to replace Lacey Ingram replaces Washington Ennis replaces Wallace/Lee"

If we managed to close out recruiting with Newman and Papagiannis, with both actually arriving and playing next year...then I'll consider it an overall win for Gott despite losing 2 players.

I would love to add a player like Ingram, but I just don't see him picking us over UNC, Kentucky, and/or Duke. If we beat out those 3 for a player, that would be something. But Duke scheduling 2 in-home visits makes me somewhat curious, thought they were the leader, but now looks like they're trying to play the catch-up game.

Meh, I don't see missing out on Ennis to be a big deal, not even sure we ever offered him. Seems like our coaches are being really selective of who they target, and we've already passed on Mitchell so not sure we'd really go after a guy like Ennis until we knew what Newman would do.

4/20/2015 9:46:53 AM

^^ I think we're slowly working our way up to that level...its just not easy. And I'd rather have what we had the past couple years than one really good year and no tourney for a year or two like the other teams you mentioned.

We just need that one really big breakout year (this year could have been it...dammit)...where the top recruits take notice and we get one or two of them. Who knows, maybe we get Newman and Ingram and this is where we turn the corner.

4/20/2015 9:54:34 AM

I bet Ingram still goes to UNC.

4/20/2015 10:37:12 AM

So our expectations went from probably top four in ACC a few weeks ago to Duke and UNC as favorites and who knows for us. I should have known better.

4/27/2015 10:00:02 PM

Should have just listened to me

4/27/2015 10:11:12 PM

Eh, Ingram definitely helps them, but he needs to put on a lot of weight. He's more of a 2/3 year type player - not sure he makes them a favorite for the ACC after losing Winslow, Cook, Okafor & Jones.

I honestly think State's still got a decent shot at finishing in the ACC's top 4.

4/27/2015 10:25:05 PM

We wereny top 4 with lacey

Unc
Uva
duke
fsu

[Edited on April 27, 2015 at 11:09 PM. Reason : 4 top 15 teams]

4/27/2015 11:08:11 PM

I think UVA losing Atkins & Anderson has them taking a step back, that's the ACC defensive player of the year and their best player/most consistent scorer. They'll still be solid with the system the play, but I'm not sold on them being a lock in the ACC's top 4.

Same goes for FSU, it's Rathan-Mayes and lot of talented freshmen, not sure that they'll just be flat out better than State next year, still think State's got a decent shot at it. I think other than having the guys with the highest cieling (Cat/Abu) taking major steps forward to make up the scoring we lose with Lacey, Anya's the one we need to develop the most. Having him get in better condition, put on some muscle and be able to play more minutes could be huge for our defense.

4/28/2015 8:26:19 AM

Quote :

"Unc Uva duke fsu"

We were ranked above FSU weeks ago when we were projected top 15 with Lacey on-board. At that time Duke was actually ranked lower than us with the expected losses. I'll agree even with Lacey, Duke would have passed us with their recent commitments.

If we had Lacey I'd say we're definitely above FSU. I do expect teams like Louisville and ND to be better than they're being projected.

UVA will still be really good, but on paper, UNC should be the favorite to win the ACC this year.

4/28/2015 8:29:10 AM

Quote :

"I honestly think State's still got a decent shot at finishing in the ACC's top 4."

of course we do. don't ever worry about STATEments like we "could" or "it's possible"... its the we "should" statements that get out of control on the message boards.

we definitely have a shot at top 4... we also definitely have a shot at the 5-10 range too.

4/28/2015 9:44:17 AM

Everything back to normal

4/28/2015 9:53:46 AM

The thing about those rankings after the tournament. They were reactionary to the tournament. Weve always shown the ability to string together a few nice performances but until i see more, id never put us above teams with similar talent who have also proven they can be consistent with that talent.(the 4 teams above) Losing Lacey elevated our ceiling but i dont really see the overall season playing out much different without him.

The same logic applies to uva. Losing those guys lowers their season but its not like theyll sudde ly stop playing excellent, smart basketball on both ends

[Edited on April 28, 2015 at 11:54 AM. Reason : duke will be duke]

4/28/2015 11:53:07 AM

i like your use of elevated the ceiling.

4/28/2015 1:29:31 PM

wonder when UVA fans will get tired of consistently choking in the postseason

4/28/2015 2:06:18 PM

Losing to a legendary coach who always seems to make the final four is not choking.

Also i meant to say losing lacey lowered our ceiling.

4/28/2015 5:52:04 PM

i think we are pretty solid at all positions but i'd feel a lot better if we had some backup for cat. the only solid player who could quasi fill in at PG was lacey. IIRC caleb played a minute or some at point unless i was imagining it but i wouldn't count on converting a shooter.

4/29/2015 12:01:46 AM

Anye is gonna be the backup point center

4/29/2015 12:08:50 AM

supposedly Henderson and Cody are the plan for spelling Cat

4/29/2015 12:37:06 AM

Some Abu DuNKs: https://instagram.com/p/2Zw67ooIO4/

5/8/2015 2:57:09 PM

DAT 100% BUTT SWEAT

5/8/2015 3:06:51 PM

So what the heck happened with Rob Moxley? Don't see anything about it on TWW.

5/9/2015 8:16:14 AM

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/story/1543964-pp-digital-nc-state-hoops-recruiting?s=178

this is worth a listen.

5/10/2015 6:53:01 PM

Some Terry Henderson hHighliGHTs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=43&v=vePtkPJDfq8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=103&v=oKbQqDeo77I

5/13/2015 1:01:27 PM

Likely hosting Michigan for ACC/Big Ten Challenge

5/13/2015 1:25:46 PM

Why is that game not on the list that came out a half hour ago?

5/13/2015 1:43:32 PM

Looks like a few places are updating their lists to include Mich @ NCSU

5/13/2015 2:00:18 PM

Coach Mox is out of the hospital and home.

5/13/2015 2:28:39 PM

Just saw that on Twitter. Did they ever say what happened? Glad he's back home and doing well.

5/13/2015 2:31:16 PM

Full list for challenge:

Quote :

"Mon, Nov 30 Clemson at Minnesota Wake Forest at Rutgers Tue, Dec 1 No. 4 Maryland at No. 2 North Carolina No. 5 Virginia at Ohio State Michigan at NC State Purdue at Pittsburgh Northwestern at Virginia Tech Miami (Fla.) at Nebraska Wed, Dec 2 No. 14 Indiana at No. 7 Duke No. 21 Louisville at No. 12 Michigan State No. 13 Notre Dame at Illinois No. 25 Wisconsin at Syracuse Florida State at Iowa Penn State at Boston College"

5/13/2015 2:44:06 PM

^^i never saw anything. I assumed it was a heart attack, but that's just a guess.

5/13/2015 2:46:36 PM

Mon, Nov 30
Clemson at Minnesota
Wake Forest at Rutgers

Tue, Dec 1
No. 4 Maryland at No. 2 North Carolina
No. 5 Virginia at Ohio State
Michigan at NC State
Purdue at Pittsburgh
Northwestern at Virginia Tech
Miami (Fla.) at Nebraska

Wed, Dec 2
No. 14 Indiana at No. 7 Duke
No. 21 Louisville at No. 12 Michigan State
No. 13 Notre Dame at Illinois
No. 25 Wisconsin at Syracuse
Florida State at Iowa
Penn State at Boston College

ACC: 9
B1G: 5

[Edited on May 13, 2015 at 2:47 PM. Reason : add another prediction]

5/13/2015 2:47:28 PM

not sure how losing Lacey dropped us completely out of the rankings, and how some polls have FSU and Miami ranked.

blah blah rankings don't matter. they do to me. they do to recruits.

5/13/2015 3:23:21 PM

I do. Lacey was a potential ACC POY. Now we only have one real ball-handler, and will have to have wings taking the secondary ball-handling duties (and backing-up our point guard).

5/13/2015 3:29:18 PM