TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
I know we're State fans, but LOL at saying a future HOFer is basically the same as Cotchery
Tell me who would be the #1 if we brought Wayne in? Bersin? Ginn? Brown? Funchess?
come on man
Wayne at 34 years old put up better numbers than Cotchery ever did in his entire career] 8/21/2015 2:01:21 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, and now Wayne is 37 and coming off two injury plagued years. He adds nothing to basically any NFL wr corps in terms of production. There's a reason he's not on a team.
[Edited on August 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM. Reason : Reggie Wayne = old and busted. Brenton Bersin = new hotness]
[Edited on August 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM. Reason : Lynn Swann in his prime was better than any panthers wr ever. They should sign him.] 8/21/2015 3:01:14 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
We just need to scrap the idea of being a passing offense, lean on our talented guards and Stewart to carry the offense. Shula's an idiot though so we'll probably continue trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. 8/21/2015 3:10:13 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
That's a great plan until week 3 when Stewart gets the first of many injuries. 8/21/2015 3:19:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Just cause Wayne isn't who he used to be doesn't mean he still wouldn't be the best wr on this team 8/21/2015 3:46:59 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Wayne is pretty washed. The hamstring injury destroyed whatever he had left
WR doesnt matter that much. The Panthers will sucks this year, but that's not related to losing one WR that drops every other pass he's thrown 8/21/2015 3:47:50 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Remember when Torry Holt and Jerry Rice were too old to play and continued to try and hang on with teams like the Raiders and Jags when they were basically useless on the field? Yeah, that's what Wayne will be out there this year." |
not saying the Panthers should necessarily sign Wayne, but I think you're forgetting how solid Rice was for the Raiders just because he wasn't as good as he was in his prime. his last three full seasons with them (before his final season that he split with Oakland and Seattle), he totaled 3219 yards and 12 TDs on 238 receptions. Even Torry's year with Jacksonville, he had 722 yards on 51 receptions. If Wayne had that kind of production with a Kelvin-less Panthers, he'd be the top WR on the team.8/21/2015 6:55:38 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Lynn Swann was good. Compared to Steve Smith, Lynn Swann wasn't shit. 8/21/2015 8:28:34 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
I just spit out my beer laughing, brah. 8/21/2015 10:24:58 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
You can either be a 50 year old who actually watched dozens of late 70s Steelers games, which I know neither you or I did, or you can look at the numbers. And if you look at the numbers (granted, the game has evolved into more of a passing game), Smitty blows away Swan. Maybe your girlfriends Steelers homer dad put a bug in your ear, but it's not really close. And it's in my favor. Smitty has MUCH better numbers across the board, as well as more Pro Bowls and more All Pros. But muh Steelers were good back when David Thompson was in college
[Edited on August 21, 2015 at 11:23 PM. Reason : YA TITTLE WAS BETTER THAN TOM BRADY] 8/21/2015 11:15:51 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
comparing players across eras is dumb. Comparing two players that played 50 years apart is super-dumb. 8/22/2015 12:51:08 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
^ 8/22/2015 7:10:10 AM |
WolfpckGrl17 All American 5755 Posts user info edit post |
Game day!!!!! Hopefully there will be a live stream to watch this. GO PANTHERS! 8/22/2015 9:09:37 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
^^,^^^ almost as dumb as saying a washed up future hall of famer could walk in and be the clear cut #1 wr on any current NFL team.
If he's still so great, why doesn't ANY team want to sign him? 8/22/2015 10:10:12 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Wayne isn't very smart, so it would be imperative that he potentially gets injured in some preseason games to prove he knows how to run routes. There is absolutely no possibility that he is signed by a team over the next few weeks before the start of the regular season. /justin] 8/22/2015 11:09:50 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
If Oher decides to stomp on Suh's ankle and gets fined, I wouldn't be mad 8/22/2015 7:01:57 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
#Kony2015 8/22/2015 7:10:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
yep, it's Harper 8/22/2015 7:27:01 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
There are more dolphins fans at this game than I thought there were in existence. 8/22/2015 7:47:48 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
got that regular season form right there 8/22/2015 7:49:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
cant believe TANNY HILL is carving us up
[Edited on August 22, 2015 at 7:54 PM. Reason : oh shit looks like a touchback] 8/22/2015 7:50:34 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
HAHA epic challenge right there 8/22/2015 7:54:22 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
CAP doin work
Shaq looking athletic
[Edited on August 22, 2015 at 8:09 PM. Reason : .] 8/22/2015 7:57:44 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
https://vine.co/v/eDx0t3peIY9 8/22/2015 8:16:29 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Torn Achilles for Frank Alexander 8/22/2015 11:12:14 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
been a rough week for Panther nation. All the sports talk radio hosts down here have already thrown in the towel on the season and all the callers still think they're a playoff team. Made for some fun listening the last day or two 8/23/2015 6:40:32 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Well in this division, we could easily still be a playoff team 8/23/2015 1:51:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Patriots sign Reggie Wayne. What is that poorly run franchise thinking! 8/24/2015 1:46:18 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
He's obviously going to waltz in there and become their unquestioned #1 wr. I mean look what he's done in his career! 8/24/2015 1:58:59 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
If he's still so great, why doesn't ANY team want to sign him? 8/24/2015 2:17:10 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
I feel bad for Funchess because he's going to be measured against what KB did last year and be expected to jump into that #1 WR role from the start. That's unfair for any receiver picked outside of the top 5, let alone a second round pick. Besides that, looks like another solid group of rookies. Shaq looked really good vs Miami, Darryl Williams could be our long term answer at LT or RT, and Artis-Payne may be the biggest steal of the entire draft. Mayo is the only one that doesn't have an obvious role right now, other than injury insurance. 8/25/2015 4:47:22 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39306 Posts user info edit post |
he'll be measured like that by people who want to bench Cam in favor of Anderson or Webb
their opinions really don't matter at all
there are plenty of smart Panthers fans who won't expect that kind of season from him 8/25/2015 5:39:30 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
i expect him to be the panthers best receiver, because no one else is tall enough to catch cams passes.
oh and TT, Wayne is probably gonna end up with like 200 rec yards this year. just like randy moss, ochocinco and deion branch in their end of career years with the patriots. ] 8/25/2015 6:06:06 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39306 Posts user info edit post |
didn't realize that Cam has never completed a pass to someone under 6'5" before
learn something new everyday, I guess 8/25/2015 6:16:56 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
while that is a broad generalization, he did lead the league in overthrows last season. 17% of his passes!
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/2014-incomplete-pass-breakdown-passers
it's a legitimate issue.
[Edited on August 25, 2015 at 6:39 PM. Reason : and 15% the season before.] 8/25/2015 6:38:41 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, it's a legit criticism. seems like he throws off his back foot at times, even when he's not under pressure. i don't pretend to know a ton about QB mechanics...but i think he can be inconsistent with his mechanics at times. leading to overthrows. 8/25/2015 7:05:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
lol Randy Moss had over 1,000 yards every full season he was a Patriot. is that more hyperbole?
he was the #1 receiving threat on the most explosive offense in NFL history. but keep at it, you're bringing the lols
ok i forgot he played for them a few games in 2010. guess Moss sucked as a WR when he was in Oakland in his prime too, because he didn't have great numbers! even though he later he then had back to back to back pro bowl seasons
also Moss had 3 TDs on 9 targets in 4 games in New England in 2010. What a failure.
[Edited on August 25, 2015 at 7:23 PM. Reason : .]
8/25/2015 7:11:29 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Well first off, Greg Olsen is going be our leading receiver, just like he was last year, and the year before that, etc... As for players with the actual WR label, I'll say Funchess will lead us in receptions but Teddy Ginn will have the most TDs. He really seems to have great chemistry with Cam, and hasn't lost a bit of his speed.
[Edited on August 25, 2015 at 7:23 PM. Reason : .] 8/25/2015 7:20:50 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah Olsen is definitely gonna be the go to guy. I think Funchess will have a nice year...not necessarily because he's gonna be great (maybe he will, who knows) but because he's gonna have to fill in that #1 WR role whether or not he is capable at this point in his career. Ginn had a good season 2 years ago with Cam, so hopefully they can find that rhythm again. Philly Brown (is he going by Corey Brown, now?) finished last year strong so maybe he can emerge. But I don't see either of them getting the majority of the targets...they're more speedsters than possession WRs. And Cotchery is just too old. Boykin has apparently been kinda underwhelming in training camp. So we'll see. 8/25/2015 7:39:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Boykin has a lot of promise. Hope he can fulfill it.
[Edited on August 25, 2015 at 7:42 PM. Reason : bet the Packers wish they still had him] 8/25/2015 7:41:27 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i'm holding out hope that Boykin will step up 8/25/2015 7:45:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
That one jumping catch he had on the right sideline versus the Bills was pretty nice. He was kind of hit or miss in GB though. But he has upside. 8/25/2015 8:03:05 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Boykin looked great Saturday -- almost #1 WR good. He's not the fastest guy, but he's got great body control and hand-eye coordination. He was making the contested catches look easy. He's also 6'2 with long arms, so he can snare in Cam's inevitable overthrows.
Philly Brown -- on the other hand -- looked awful. I know he tries hard, but he's just not a natural WR. Bad hands, bad body control, and doesn't ever seem to attack the ball when it's in the air. Speed and quickness only matter if you can catch the ball. If he's our #1 guy this year, Lord help us. 8/26/2015 2:30:49 AM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
im still surprised that we have been seemingly inactive in trying to backfill KB with a shorterm WR FA or trade acquisition. What if Funchess or Ginn tears an ACL?
[Edited on August 26, 2015 at 9:05 AM. Reason : eek] 8/26/2015 9:05:21 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I think if another WR were to get hurt, then we'd go after a short-term plug-in FA. But we had 6 WRs on roster and one was likely to get cut, so now they'll just keep all 5 with KB on IR. Staff seems to be pretty comfortable with what we have left and I guess they expect Funchess will just be forced into the deep-end a little earlier than anticipated. 8/26/2015 10:07:19 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not sure the staff is so comfortable as much as they are cheap. We have a tough schedule this season and the Bucs will be much better than last year. Even in a weak division, it's going to be a rough year. 8/26/2015 10:19:18 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
I'd guess they're waiting on cuts from other teams before they make a move too so they can assess the entire marketplace instead of signing someone that doesn't fit as well in a knee-jerk move (reggie wayne, randy moss). 8/26/2015 11:26:00 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
^could also be true...it's not like there's a #1 WR just sitting at home waiting on his phone to ring. they'll have a better idea of who is available after cuts 8/26/2015 11:28:43 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
We're a defensive, run first team y'all, we're not going to start panic signing a bunch of receivers because one guy got hurt. Remember, we still need to sign Kuechly to a contract extension, Norman is gonna need a competitive offer if we want to keep the only shutdown corner on the roster, and then Star/KK are coming up next. Be thankful Cam's at least got a competent line in front of him for once. 8/26/2015 11:53:50 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Speaking of roster cuts, Willie Young is reportedly on the roster bubble in Chicago due to some struggles transitioning in their 3-4 8/26/2015 11:59:47 AM |