dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39041535/college-football-playoff-committee-selection-process-florida-state-alabama-texas
Quote : | ""All of us had the emotional tie, like, 'Holy s---, this is really going to suck to do this,'" one committee member told ESPN. "We talked about that over and over, and we just kept coming back [to] are they good enough with what they have to win a national championship, and it just kept coming back [to] we didn't think they could."" |
lol. If you only put teams in it that are capable of winning the whole thing then 1) most years you can’t even put 4 teams in that have a shot to win it and 2) why didn’t UGa make it this year? They could win it all! Why did TCU make it last year? Or Cincy the year before? Or Michigan State? We all knew those teams were not gonna win it all. But it doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a bid.
Quote : | "There wasn't any discussion about the SEC being left out because the committee maintains that it talks about teams, not conferences." |
Sure but if you spend all year being told that one or two conferences are the best and these other conferences suck ass then the perception and bias is already built in. You don’t have to explicitly collude to keep the SEC in…it just becomes a toxic bias.
Quote : | "It wasn't until the ACC championship game began to unfold, though, that the members' opinions began to truly take shape. The group grew concerned as it watched the Noles struggle to get a first down in the first half. " |
Did they watch Michigan’s offense? And Michigan had their starters!
Quote : | "In the end, though, the difference between Alabama and Florida State boiled down to the committee's written protocol, particularly the emphasis on strength of schedule -- which gave Alabama the edge -- and the section that allowed committee members to project what Florida State might look like in a semifinal without their star quarterback. " |
Strength of schedule should only be a determining factor when comparing otherwise equal resumes. And undefeated vs a 1 loss team is not equal resumes. No mention of the common opponent and how those results definitely gave an edge to FSU.
Quote : | "Not having Heisman hopeful starter Travis "changes their offense in its entirety," Corrigan said, "and that was really a big factor with the committee as we went through everything."
So was the Longhorns' double-digit win at Alabama in Week 2. The committee had been consistent in honoring the head-to-head result all season and felt it was important to be consistent with that on Selection Day -- even though they believed Alabama had improved since that September loss." |
So Bama can improve over the course of a season but FSU can’t be given the opportunity to improve and gel and game plan with a new QB over the next 3-4 weeks?12/5/2023 3:51:11 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Texas should have been left out instead of Alabama, there is precedent for head to head not mattering as much as body of work.
But hey it's gonna be hilarious when they are multiple blowout games in the CFP. again.] 12/5/2023 4:05:54 PM |
fatcatt316 All American 3812 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The group grew concerned as it watched the Noles struggle to get a first down in the first half. " |
Yeah, weird how having an 18-year-old freshman making his first start at QB makes the offense a lot worse. By the time the playoffs roll around, Tate would be back.12/5/2023 4:40:03 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
it’s a tv show
that’s all it is 12/5/2023 10:03:17 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
It's ok for people to be interested and invested in things that don't interest you
Also, have you never seen the discourse on television shows?? 12/5/2023 10:45:06 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
I’m quite interested in college football
you mean the discourse that gets more people talking about the playoff??
[Edited on December 5, 2023 at 11:07 PM. Reason : .] 12/5/2023 11:03:21 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " it’s a tv show
that’s all it is " |
Yes it is. All the rankings leading up to the final one, especially. It’s all for entertainment and engagement. I don’t like how 95% of the season revolves around who will make the playoff when 95% of the teams have no real shot ever win a title.
But that doesn’t mean outrage isn’t warranted when they fuck up.12/6/2023 6:30:32 AM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
So whats the bet on when FSU leaves the ACC? And which schools follow? I am betting on Clemson and potentially UNC. 12/6/2023 8:17:08 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
They’re definitely leaving. Just a matter of how soon. It’s still really expensive for them to leave. But if private equity gets involved it could happen a lot sooner 12/6/2023 8:49:23 AM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
its $125 million right? 12/6/2023 10:14:51 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
I think that’s the exit fee. But then that doesn’t even count the media rights side of things. Which would probably be negotiated by lawyers I guess. But the Grant of Rights runs through, I think 2036, so with each passing year it would get cheaper to buy out your media rights.
But yeah…a couple more years is my guess. 12/6/2023 10:59:54 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
People are shitting on the Manny Diaz hire for Duke based on his time at Miami. And….he pretty much did what Mario Cristobal did at Miami with less support than Mario currently has (NIL, financial support from fans, etc).
Idk. Feels hard to judge Diaz based on a Miami program that (from the outside) looks meddlesome and broken for basically any coach that’s been there recently. 12/8/2023 6:32:59 AM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
In terms of continuity of system from Elko to Diaz, I think it's a great hire. He's also got private school recruiting experience, albeit at a much flashier private school. I think Duke alum would be ecstatic if he can get them to Miami-level consistency. 12/8/2023 8:20:11 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
I think the counter to that is the floor at Miami is higher than the floor at Duke, mostly due to the level of player you can recruit. It’s easier to go 7-5 at Miami than at Duke.
I think he did a slightly better job at Miami than people give him credit for. He (or his OC) made Tyler Van Dyke look good. Mario has made TVD look awful. I also seem to recall a lot of big financial promises once Mario was hired, which gives me the impression that Manny never really had full support from the boosters at Miami. Felt kinda dirty how they went and openly courted Mario for the job before even firing Manny. It feels like a lot of the problems at Miami might have been institutional. Maybe Manny will never be a good HC, but I also don’t think his time at Miami is a very fair assessment of his HC abilities. 12/8/2023 9:05:14 AM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
And that is a valid counter. I don't think Miami gave him long enough or invested consistently either. I don't entirely blame them -- they found a new guy who was available. Curious about the cultural change, though. 12/8/2023 10:51:18 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 22, 2023 at 7:40 PM. Reason : [old] ]
12/22/2023 7:39:53 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Excellent bump 12/22/2023 8:38:51 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks 12/22/2023 8:47:40 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
Way to go Eastern Michigan
https://twitter.com/jagsfbguy/status/1738808914508976460 12/25/2023 11:13:28 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Lol Rodemaker opting out of the orange bowl and portalling. FSU gonna lose by 60. 12/25/2023 2:58:16 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure Georgia will be pumped up to try and beat them by 60 in a completely meaningless game 12/25/2023 3:41:29 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
They probably will. Because they're from the SEC. It just means more.
[Edited on December 25, 2023 at 3:45 PM. Reason : Also like half the FSU team has opted out already] 12/25/2023 3:45:06 PM |
titans78 All American 4035 Posts user info edit post |
Time to move these bowl games to the spring and have them replace the spring game.
Would be way more interesting to see the teams with all their portal guys in the spring vs another opponent. 12/25/2023 4:25:12 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "FSU gonna lose by 60." |
screenshotting this for later for when fsu loses by anything other than exactly 60 points!12/25/2023 4:26:04 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck!!! 12/25/2023 8:03:41 PM |
fatcatt316 All American 3812 Posts user info edit post |
Fun fact, the last time FSU played Georgia in a bowl game, they ended up having a non-QB take most of their snaps. Looks like history might be 'bout to repeat 12/25/2023 10:37:07 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
I like the idea of moving the bowl games to the regular season. Like week 1 (or week 0) of the following year. But not the spring game. Tons of people will opt of a spring game too. Lots of players don’t play in them if they’re not 100% as is. It’s hardly a football game. 12/26/2023 7:00:08 AM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7141 Posts user info edit post |
https://soonersports.com/sports/football/roster/justin-harrington/16127
Is this dude good? Sitting in my aisle on the plane 12/26/2023 2:36:03 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23257 Posts user info edit post |
Good enough. 12/26/2023 6:11:38 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Lol at Miami 12/28/2023 3:13:43 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
I see why Miami went after CJ Clark 12/28/2023 5:22:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Clemson squeaks by to prevent ACC embarrassment 12/29/2023 7:18:55 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7141 Posts user info edit post |
I feel like the ACC’s very existence is embarrassing? Is that wrong? 12/29/2023 7:38:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
No. But if the best program in the conference over the last decade had lost their bowl game to a basketball school, I'm sure Paul Finebaum would've had trouble controlling himself 12/29/2023 7:40:11 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7141 Posts user info edit post |
That guy seems super hardcore SEC fanboy the times i listened 12/29/2023 7:48:43 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23257 Posts user info edit post |
Seems? 12/29/2023 7:53:50 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7141 Posts user info edit post |
I’m not an expert just got sirius $200/5years 12/29/2023 7:55:05 PM |
fatcatt316 All American 3812 Posts user info edit post |
Pumped to see the big reveal when Travis throws some tape over his cast and runs out on the field ala Sean Maguire: https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/12/31/10695512/sean-maguire-injury-florida-state 12/30/2023 3:05:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
the committee got it right. Georgia is definitely not one of the top 4 teams in the country.] 12/30/2023 5:32:39 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
I have zero sympathy for FSU
barely had any after the selection show, tbh 12/30/2023 6:02:04 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
I don't feel sorry for them, but they definitely should have been in the playoffs* even considering this ass beating. They wouldn't be missing like half their entire depth chart in that game.
*invitational made-for-TV event that isn't an NCAA sanctioned championship. 12/30/2023 6:06:56 PM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
"Stop! He's already dead!" 12/30/2023 6:20:53 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7141 Posts user info edit post |
Justinh524 credibility watch
+60 12/30/2023 7:00:01 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " screenshotting this for later for when fsu loses by anything other than exactly 60 points!" |
Egg on my face12/30/2023 7:22:25 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "FSU gonna lose by 60" |
Quote : | "FSU gonna lose by 60" |
Quote : | "FSU gonna lose by 60" |
12/30/2023 7:28:31 PM |
Kickstand All American 11592 Posts user info edit post |
Justin for Sprots Talk Dom! 12/30/2023 7:56:23 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
Holy shit he did it 12/30/2023 8:36:36 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Justin is the winner of tww (st edition) 12/30/2023 8:59:40 PM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "screenshotting this for later for when fsu loses by anything other than exactly 60 points!" |
Quote : | "screenshotting this for later for when fsu loses by anything other than exactly 60 points!" |
Quote : | "screenshotting this for later for when fsu loses by anything other than exactly 60 points!" |
This isnt just epic fail, this is Mets level fail.
Thats bad.]12/30/2023 9:34:42 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53062 Posts user info edit post |
De-troit Pistons level failure? 12/31/2023 12:19:52 AM |