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thegoodlife3
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"Baier is the only one left at that network with any integrity"


https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/05/08/media/fox-baier-reputation-reliable-sources

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/fox-news-apologizes-for-falsely-reporting-that-clinton-faces-indictment/2016/11/04/8fd56f20-a2b7-11e6-8d63-3e0a660f1f04_story.html

[Edited on October 15, 2024 at 1:00 AM. Reason : .]

10/15/2024 1:00:30 AM

StTexan
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"Baier is the only one left at that network with any integrity, so it might actually be a fair interview"


Agreed. I am excite

10/15/2024 6:40:27 AM

The Coz
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^
This you?:

10/15/2024 8:35:28 AM

aaronburro
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^^^ Other texts from those same bits of discovery showed far more ethics than the examples you posted. Frankly, he seemed to be the only one at the network trying to push against the lies in 2020, and he seemed to keep getting blasted for it. Chris Wallace also took some heat, and he ended up quitting, thus why I didn't include him.

10/15/2024 12:47:03 PM

The Coz
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Heard she's considering doing Joe Rogan's Podcast also.

10/15/2024 7:09:03 PM

TreeTwista10
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that would be uge. Rogan apparently, despite all his politics, won't have Trump on.

10/15/2024 7:33:40 PM

StTexan
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I can't see it happening, don't think she could duck his questions without him calling her out

When I googled it, a few results had headlines that said trump was going on soon. Didn't click but figured it was a safe bet

10/15/2024 8:40:43 PM

moron
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she should be the one calling Joe out... why did he go to working class advocate in the late 90s to shill for billionaires and corporations? If she did it right she could easily come out looking great on rogan

10/16/2024 12:03:34 AM

The Coz
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Well, he became rich and "successful" for one thing.

10/16/2024 6:30:53 AM

TreeTwista10
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I've only seen some clips from her Fox News interview, but she seemed to do well

10/16/2024 10:05:50 PM

StTexan
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Saying this cause I wish it were true...

This will be a landslide electorally, and Kamala will win states like TX, etc. Media downplaying her polling now cause want Kamala to appear as an underdog. When she so defiantly wins in the electoral college/popular vote, there will be some kind of post election analysis(as their always is), and the R party will begin to rebuild itself, but shun all the trump part of the party.

10/17/2024 4:25:36 AM

The Coz
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Well, we can hope, and we can vote.

I don't understand why the polling error should ALWAYS favor Trump.

10/17/2024 7:43:52 AM

thegoodlife3
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she was an expert at not falling for bullshit gotcha questions in that Fox interview

10/17/2024 10:45:48 AM

aaronburro
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Same she couldn't show up on time

10/18/2024 11:49:01 AM

StTexan
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^she won't get away with that again

10/19/2024 11:01:56 PM

thegoodlife3
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https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/kamala-harris-gaza-israel-biden-election-poll?utm_medium=ios

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" Kamala Harris Paid the Price for Not Breaking With Biden on Gaza, New Poll Shows

Twenty-nine percent of non-voters who supported Biden in 2020 said U.S. support for the genocide was the top reason they sat the 2024 election, according to a survey by YouGov."

1/15/2025 1:46:21 PM

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"Ryan Grim"


well known for not being partisan. but let's take a look...

so to start, I'm not really sure where this conclusion comes from

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"19 million people who voted for Joe Biden staying home (or not mailing in their ballots) in 2024"


Kamala got 75M votes in 2024 compared to Biden's 81.3M in 2020. that's not a 19M difference. maybe i'm not getting something here, but let's move on

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"The poll was paid for by the Institute for Middle East Understanding Policy Project, which has been an outspoken critic of Israel’s assault on Gaza"


indeed.

i mean, look at the framing of the questions related to israel/palestine.

and even still

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"think back to how you voted in 2024. you will see issues that some say may have impacted their vote. For each of those, please say how you feel about that issue.
Asked of those who did not vote in the 2024 Presidential Election

The violence between Israel and Gaza:

20% : This issue was important to me and candidates' positions on this issue swayed how I voted
39% : This issue was important to me but candidates' positions on this issue didn't really sway how I voted
17% : This issue isn't really important to me
24% : Not sure"


so 80% (of those who did NOT vote in the 2024 Presidential Election, even!) were not swayed on this issue.

I don't know what number of voters (particularly in swing states) Kamala actually lost out on because of this, but all it says to me is that some number of 2020 Biden voters were manipulated into not voting for the non-Trump candidate in 2024 because they were propagandized to believe 1) Israel = Bad 2) Hamas = Innocent Victims 3) Trump would somehow be better for Palestinians than Harris. it doesn't make sense, but I see similar irrationality on the GOP voter side and we're all human after all so why wouldn't Dem voters be susceptible to such techniques as well.

In the end, Kamala held the Correct and Principled position. "Israel has the right to defend itself, and the way it does so matters." It's not her fault some voters couldn't see through the noise.

1/15/2025 3:48:09 PM

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i hope they learn from their mistakes.

2/6/2025 9:34:27 AM

The Coz
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SPOILER ALERT: They won't. Most of them don't even admit they made a mistake.

2/6/2025 10:35:36 AM

qntmfred
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i remain optimistic that human beings are still capable of self-reflection, realizing when you've been wrong, and making better decisions going forward.

2/6/2025 11:04:31 AM

Bullet
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" 2) Hamas = Innocent Victim"


Dude, you keep claiming this over and over. It's not true, yet you continue to be disingenuous.. Very, very, very few people believe this.

Believing the majority of Palestinians (especially women and children) are innocent victims is not the same as saying Hamas is innocent. And I know you know this, but you insist on repeating it.

2/6/2025 12:40:03 PM

rjrumfel
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But many people are convinced that many Palestinians who were not involved with Hamas directly were favorable to Hamas. Many believe that they even offered them shelter, food, supplies, etc.

2/6/2025 1:30:37 PM

qntmfred
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"some number of 2020 Biden voters ... believe ... Hamas = Innocent Victims"


this is what i said. and it is true. even if it is "very, very, very few people"

FAR too many people who would normally be Democrat-leaning voters have excused Hamas long history of violent "resistance" or at least been willing to look the other way bc they are more concerned/interested in criticizing Israel. if you can't criticize both parties in this conflict based on the reality of their own choices and behaviors, you're part of the problem. these people who excuse or even embrace Hamas are who i'm talking about. if that's not you, or most people, then great! i'm not talking about you then.

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"Believing the majority of Palestinians (especially women and children) are innocent victims is not the same as saying Hamas is innocent"


i did not say that. the majority of Palestinians ARE innocent victims. Hamas members and Hamas supporters are not innocent victims (they are in the sense that they have been brainwashed, but that still doesn't excuse their violence and their intentions to destroy any possibility of peace in the region)

^ certainly true. interesting to see what newer polling shows now though. not that public attitudes translate whatsoever to shifts among regional leadership.

[Edited on February 6, 2025 at 1:45 PM. Reason : . ]

2/6/2025 1:35:59 PM

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