Ouch, reboot and came back to see you at half your stack, what happened?

11/14/2005 11:47:36 PM

Made a dumbass move.

PokerStars Game #3062314563: Tournament #15015285, Omaha Pot Limit - Level XII (800/1600) - 2005/11/14 - 23:41:04 (ET)
Table '15015285 12' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: KaseAce (21820 in chips)
Seat 2: RZRZRZ (87012 in chips)
Seat 3: DonRane (18710 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: omar1001 (79500 in chips)
Seat 6: MKGB (50051 in chips)
Seat 7: pilgrimshoes (47730 in chips)
Seat 8: murraygoals (16472 in chips)
Seat 9: Morgase (34626 in chips)
pilgrimshoes: posts small blind 800
murraygoals: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pilgrimshoes [Kc Js Th Qc]
Morgase: folds
pilgrimshoes said, "gh"
KaseAce: raises 4000 to 5600
RZRZRZ: folds
DonRane: folds
omar1001: folds
MKGB: folds
pilgrimshoes: calls 4800
RZRZRZ is sitting out
murraygoals: folds
*** FLOP *** [7s 6h Qh]
pilgrimshoes: checks
KaseAce: bets 12800
pilgrimshoes: raises 12800 to 25600
murraygoals said, "GG"
murraygoals said, "gg kase"
KaseAce said, "yep"
RZRZRZ has returned
KaseAce said, "****ing lone Ah"
KaseAce: calls 3420 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [7s 6h Qh] [5c]
murraygoals said, "NH"
*** RIVER *** [7s 6h Qh 5c] [9h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pilgrimshoes: shows [Kc Js Th Qc] (a pair of Queens)
KaseAce: shows [2s 4d Ah Ac] (a pair of Aces)
KaseAce collected 45240 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 45240 | Rake 0
Board [7s 6h Qh 5c 9h]
Seat 1: KaseAce showed [2s 4d Ah Ac] and won (45240) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: RZRZRZ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: DonRane folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: omar1001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MKGB (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pilgrimshoes (small blind) showed [Kc Js Th Qc] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 8: murraygoals (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Morgase folded before Flop (didn't bet)


thought i had a shit ton of outs.

i did, but being like 58/42 doesnt justify what i did.

11/14/2005 11:48:54 PM

Ouch, its alright, you will get it back.

11/14/2005 11:51:54 PM

boo.

16th.


i fucked this one up pretty good.

11/15/2005 12:32:02 AM

at least you made the money

11/15/2005 12:36:32 AM

I, on the other hand, am still in. Ben just sucks at Omaha.




j/k of course... I've been extremely lucky this tourney

11/15/2005 12:38:16 AM

soab.. that dude after jon went all in, then i lost conn..

11/15/2005 12:48:07 AM

ok, I'm joining ps tomorrow.....

11/15/2005 12:51:00 AM

i just put money back in there... i had got ahead decent, then decided to quit


that didn't last long

11/15/2005 12:51:51 AM

haha yea, for some reason i always just stuck with pp, but they have no plo tourneys, so i think it's time to branch out.....maybe we can get some tag team stuff going guys

11/15/2005 12:53:06 AM

watchin the 100/200 hold 'em tables and its sickening

one guy has 30k at one table and 14k at the other...

all i can think is "damn... there's a new truck."

11/15/2005 1:21:30 AM

100/200 on what site?

11/15/2005 1:25:20 AM

Thats nothing, you should go watch the 300/600 on Ultimate Bet. Ive seen people with $120,000+ stacks sitting at that table before. And the average at that table is around $30k

11/15/2005 1:27:29 AM

god i accidentally signed up for a limit tournament

11/15/2005 1:33:15 AM

poker GHOST stories

11/15/2005 1:35:49 AM

Quote :

"100/200 on what site?"

pokerstars

11/15/2005 1:45:29 AM

Quote :

"deeznueces23 shows [ 8h, 8s ] four of a kind, eights. Switch_Five shows [ Qc, Qd ] two pairs, queens and eights. korykraig shows [ Kh, 9c ] two pairs, kings and nines. deeznueces23 wins 3688 chips from side pot #1 with four of a kind, eights. deeznueces23 wins 5268 chips from the main pot with four of a kind, eights. Player korykraig finished in 139 place Player Switch_Five finished in 138 place Switch_Five has left the table. korykraig has left the table."

i play good for so long then something like this happens. every time

Quote :

"portertoby is all-In [6234] backseatlee folds. pokedbyeric folds. Leatherass_ folds. deeznueces23 calls [5334]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 4s, 3s ] ** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ] ** Dealing River ** [ 8s ] deeznueces23 shows [ Qc, Qd ] a pair of queens. portertoby shows [ 9s, 9h ] a flush, jack high. portertoby wins 12918 chips from the main pot with a flush, jack high."

hahaha the most ridiculous shit always happens to me at the worst times. when i actually win hands like that i feel like i just got lucky

11/15/2005 5:57:55 AM

jesus that took forever. played all night and made the last table. once again luck got the best of me, didnt have enough chips and shit. right before the money started getting really good

Quote :

"Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 9 Seat 3: deeznueces23 ( $28840 ) Seat 4: jestr225 ( $108638 ) Seat 9: niteowl1340 ( $58780 ) Seat 10: Lady_in_Guam ( $103702 ) Seat 2: IMSteveeB ( $64946 ) Seat 1: Shawn_P333 ( $88175 ) Seat 5: Dramaz ( $145521 ) Seat 7: ABANTU ( $49596 ) Seat 8: DMPoole ( $192802 ) Trny:17428601 Level:18 Blinds (4000/8000) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to deeznueces23 [ Js Jc ] Dramaz folds. ABANTU folds. DMPoole folds. niteowl1340 folds. Lady_in_Guam calls [8000]. Shawn_P333 folds. IMSteveeB folds. deeznueces23 is all-In [24840] jestr225 folds. Lady_in_Guam calls [20840]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 7h, 3s ] ** Dealing Turn ** [ Td ] ** Dealing River ** [ 5c ] deeznueces23 shows [ Js, Jc ] a pair of jacks. Lady_in_Guam shows [ Ad, 6s ] a straight, three to seven. Lady_in_Guam wins 65680 chips from the main pot with a straight, three to seven."

hahahaha how shitty is that

11/15/2005 8:36:53 AM

Quote :

"I, on the other hand, am still in. Ben just sucks at Omaha."

but in all seriousness, that tournament was mine to win.

three bad moves at pots with marginal holdings oop, dropping like 80k chips when i knew i was beat. bad big stack poker.




Also, I qualified in a sat. for the 500k guaranteed (200+15) on sunday, but i dont know if i want to take a shot at a 3000+ player tournament, or just sell the seat for $200.

Watching a fellow poster on another forum I frequent take down 7th in the same tournament last sunday for >18k makes me want to play in it.

The other side of my brain says, youll never see that $200 again, you are way outclassed.

hmmmmmm

[Edited on November 15, 2005 at 9:07 AM. Reason : wereqewrasdf]

11/15/2005 8:44:51 AM

How can you sell your seat into a tournament? Is that a special option on PokerStars?

11/15/2005 12:11:00 PM

11/15/2005 1:00:51 PM

Quote :

"How can you sell your seat into a tournament? Is that a special option on PokerStars?"

yes, there are websites that are devoted to selling/buying tournament dollars. on pokerstars its denoted as T$, which are usable in any tournament. IF you win a seat in a WPT or WS sat, it'll be W$. Both are transferable for whatever percentage of face value you negotiate. Most website companies will buy for ~85% and sell for about 90% of face value. Ive found some indivduals who will buy for more, esp. if they are planning to use them for thier own use. I mean, if its available, why not buy an entry to the 200+15 tournament for like $195? Save a few bucks.

When you win a sat, you must go to the tournament that you won the seat for, and unregister. Then in your cashier there will be a thing showing your current T$ and W$.

Pokerstars has an interface for the transfer that is almost instantaneous, and is very convenient.

11/15/2005 1:49:24 PM

i say if your roll isn't begging for that 200 go ahead and play it

[Edited on November 15, 2005 at 3:48 PM. Reason : what should my ps name be? taking suggetions]

11/15/2005 3:35:43 PM

nah the 200 isnt an issue,

but i was thinking maybe selling it and playing in a live tournament in vegas next month when i go, its up in the air.

Just thinking of seeing Lee Jones say "Congradulations pilgrimshoes, you played well, here's 138,915.78"

Well, you know.

How about Homaha?


j/k

11/15/2005 4:26:17 PM

haha idk about homaha, damn this deck is cold

first hand after i say that, i get rolled up 8s, someone calls with nada catches trip aces on 5th and 6th...oh well, i won the hand after that at least, come deck....warm up for me, this one has some potential

ok, this is the comeback, i feel it

[Edited on November 15, 2005 at 4:37 PM. Reason : lkjd]

11/15/2005 4:30:54 PM

where are you at snuw, ill rock some low limit stud with you

11/15/2005 5:02:27 PM

Jesus fucking Christ. How lucky can that god damn online player Kanter get in the WSOP?? Its almost like watching typical online shit...he goes all in with A7, AQ calls him, and the flop comes 7710. Unreal.

11/15/2005 9:34:09 PM

i was just about to come post that. the overall play, aside from barch, at this final table has been terrible. at least he loses next i think


FINALLY, GET THE FUCK OUT YOU LUCKY BASTARD

[Edited on November 15, 2005 at 9:41 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2005 9:35:57 PM

I still cant get over how Kanter knocked out Raymer.

11/15/2005 9:40:10 PM

i'm glad dannenmann loses too, i hate that stupid weasel laugh

11/15/2005 9:53:40 PM

That guy is a fucking idiot. What a terrible player. Sure, he made it that far, but fuck, he couldn't even play a hand seriously. And showing his hands all the time etc. I know he was excited to be where he was, but try to make more out of it. And he should have known he was beat that last hand, how and why he made that call is beyond me.

11/15/2005 10:04:43 PM

they had been at that final table for 13 hours, and he said he was just tired of playing. i think with $7.5 million on the line i could muster some adrenaline

11/15/2005 10:11:55 PM

anyone on here named "flickadisc" on pokerstars? says you are from Raleigh

11/15/2005 10:23:24 PM

i was playing poker saturday night.....i had a J8 suited....this other guy had a Q8 suited....on the flop was an 8A2..then another 8...then a 4

i thought he didnt have anything and he won by ONE card higher than mine at least i didnt go all in w/ that

11/15/2005 10:24:05 PM

good play

11/15/2005 10:29:33 PM

thanks but i wish i won i was 5th out of like 14 people

11/15/2005 10:31:55 PM

Quote :

"That guy is a fucking idiot. What a terrible player. Sure, he made it that far, but fuck, he couldn't even play a hand seriously. And showing his hands all the time etc. I know he was excited to be where he was, but try to make more out of it. And he should have known he was beat that last hand, how and why he made that call is beyond me."

goes to show you how much luck plays a role in poker.

where are all the big names...the 30-40 names we all know, the superstars of poker? Not a single one was sitting at that final table.

I play poker often, and know there is a fair amount of skill involved. But I would say its more than 50% luck.

11/15/2005 10:58:02 PM

raymer should've been there, he just got knocked out by one of the worse calls i've ever seen. thats beyond luck, thats some realm i can't even fathom

11/15/2005 11:15:16 PM

How did Raymer get knocked out, I missed that episode?

11/15/2005 11:38:05 PM

i agree about raymer, the guy still had plenty of chips to fold with, kinda crappy luck. As much as I hate Matusow, i think he is a good agressive player with great reads, it's just that agressive players tend to get unlucky more often, even with good plays. And then i think that hashem's play was outstanding. as short stacked as he was, and just to come back slowly like so. Granted he went all in with Q7 and hit a Q against 99, but as a shortstack, you have leverage and luck on your side. I was happy seeing dannerman and hashem heads up. Dannerman is the poker guy that is always fun to be around and hashem plays good hands with the occasional bluff at good times. Aussie Aussie Aussie

11/15/2005 11:41:34 PM

raymer pocket kings other guy (don't remember his cards) had 2 high hearts. Board read 2 hearts and 2 random cards. Raymer all in, guy calls with nothing but a flush draw with one card left, hits the 2h. I'd be pissed

11/15/2005 11:43:32 PM

Raymer had Pocket Kings, the other guy had like JQ of hearts, flop came like 259 rainbow and Raymer bet out a good bit, and the guy calls him with no pair, no draw, Q high. Turn came a heart that gave no straight draw, Raymer went all in on the turn, and the guy had one more card to come and his only out was a heart, and the fuck called him, and caught his miracle heart on the river, I mean, I know he had outs and all, but it was for a lot of chips. It was just a total shitty way for Raymer to go out. And yes, the pros dont make it too far because they have to deal with thousands of morons who dont know what they are doing for the most part.

11/15/2005 11:44:06 PM

^^^^ nm, been said twice



[Edited on November 15, 2005 at 11:46 PM. Reason : ,]

11/15/2005 11:44:15 PM

Hachem is solid.

I havent seen tonights episodes yet, but he dvr has got em saved for me. (was at the bar)

when hachem went in with Q7 i did see however, and wasnt it three or four handed at this point?

with the antes, blinds, and the possible steal, a Q7 suited isnt that bad of a resteal hand. With his stack, the size of the blinds, the antes, and the amount in on the raise, i feel pretty certain he was getting a pretty good price on a possible resteal. I gurantee he didnt want to be called there.

In the long run, he was what, a 3:1 dog? not bad. with that hand, you can figure to have a few live cards.

Restealing when shortstacked and no one wants to bust is absolutely key in a final table. its a good way to accumulate chips, when no one wants to bust, or lose a good bit of their stack on a possible marginal holding.

he just happened to get called, and caught a card.




but what do i know about tournament strategy.


(im finaly getting around to reading TPFAP =/, and need to read HoHE I & II)


It seemed to me that even the most hardened players were only playing solid as fuck all tournament, dodging minefields.

With the size of the field, and everyone gunning for them, you can do nothing else.

youd be better off as an unkown than have people gunning for you all week.

Quote :

"the pros dont make it too far because they have to deal with thousands of morons who dont know what they are doing for the most part."

I hardly would consider Aaron Kanter a moron, considering his absolute obliteration of much of the online community.

I really admire what he has done.




[Edited on November 15, 2005 at 11:56 PM. Reason : e]


There was very little coverage shown this year that was just abismal poker.

Hard to call someone a moron who made it to qualify for the big dance.

have you?

[Edited on November 15, 2005 at 11:58 PM. Reason : i havent]

11/15/2005 11:54:00 PM

True, I guess he isn't a total moron, but from most of the shit I saw him do, and what the commentators were saying, the guy pretty much got nothing but lucky most of the time. But like you say, you have to have "some" skill I guess to make it that far. And I agree with you, I like Hachem as a player, he looked solid the whole tournament. What all has Kanter done online? I know they said he is some online star.

11/16/2005 2:02:43 AM

he's not a moron, but about 75% of the hands they showed him playing were like he was playing on a computer. awful calls, raises, etc. that he got lucky with.

11/16/2005 7:18:49 AM

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ehehehe not a bad hourly rate of 1950/.75 = $2600 / hour.

11/16/2005 11:03:27 AM

don't you have to include some of the hourage you spent busting?

11/16/2005 2:19:26 PM

anyone doin the $3 NL Holdem at 530 on stars?

11/16/2005 4:58:41 PM

^ i think i might now that you ask.

11/16/2005 5:12:09 PM