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9/8/2011 6:33:26 PM

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"ehehe, but we can have games that show people being ripped in half"

No they don't like those either.

And if the game has a brief shot of alien ass and a half second of side boob it's "A hardcore sex simulator"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU

[Edited on September 8, 2011 at 7:11 PM. Reason : ]

9/8/2011 7:08:36 PM

Haha, I remember that. And sadly, as a result ME2 had even less T&A.

9/8/2011 7:15:10 PM

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-october-3-2011/moment-of-zen---gretchen-carlson-on-roseanne-barr?xrs=share_copy oops


Fox Reporter Owned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yrT-0Xbrn4

10/4/2011 9:26:12 AM

10/12/2011 3:50:59 PM

ok, this is fucking hilarious.



Don't you like how the 8.6% at the end is higher than 8.8%

Fox News logic

8.8 < 8.6 if it looks bad for Obama

In fact, 8.6 is kind of close to 9.0. But can we really blame the chartmaker? I mean, what do you want him to do, use a computer to plot data or something?

12/13/2011 1:33:47 AM

Even Fox News' computers are dumb.

12/13/2011 1:43:33 AM

12/13/2011 2:29:47 AM

Sneak peek of the latest graph from Fox, to appear tonight:

12/13/2011 1:45:13 PM

i guess if you are retarded enough not to notice that and read the actual numbers and look past the programmatic error, then you were probably dumb enough to think the lines going down was bad in the first place

Oh cool i got a graphic that MSNBC utterly refuses to ever put on their website:




[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ,]

12/13/2011 1:47:03 PM

LMAO yeah Fox News just happened to mess up on a single data point, coincidentally affecting the chart in a way that downplays any possible good news for the Obama admin. Total coincidence, unrelated from the thousands of even more egregious distortions if not entirely counterfactual things they throw up.


BTW MSNBC has mentioned the U5 and U6 rates, mostly in commentary, and the BLS publishes those regularly. Fox mentions it about as often too. Most officials and the media use the U3 because the data its derived from is very reliable (compared to, say, estimating the number of discouraged workers from polling data) and comes out monthly.

[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 1:54 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2011 1:52:47 PM

hey i'll give you 1 million dollars if msnbc ever puts a graphic of the unemployment rate since 2000 on their website.

12/13/2011 1:53:28 PM

You owe me $1 million

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32210672/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/unemployment-numbers/#.TuegNdUTFpg

12/13/2011 1:58:24 PM

anyone hating on fox news needs to slow their roll

yes, there is conservative spin on that network

but it balances out to the 1000000 programs with liberal spin

MSNBC is the fucking WORST, ed schultz can die in a fire, so can the execs at that "news" network that allow that drivel on the air

I really wish there could be a news source that was 100% free of spin...doesn't anyone care about presenting the actual facts?

12/13/2011 2:00:27 PM

2 key points here from MSNBC gentlemen.

#1) The recession ended in 2009 and we are experiencing phenomenal market growth thanks to president obama.

#2) And the economy is adding hundreds of thousands of jobs every month. LOL

[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM. Reason : ,]

12/13/2011 2:03:23 PM

^^^^

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/12/9390907-long-term-jobless-face-deep-cuts-in-benefits



This is on the MSNBC servers, so...

12/13/2011 2:06:22 PM

#1) The recession did end 2009. I know you don't know much about these things, but in economics "recession" actually has a specific meaning, not just "times are sucky." Yes, times are still sucky, but the recession did indeed end in 2009.


#2) Actually, yes, the economy is adding hundreds of thousands of jobs, there's just a little bit of a hole to dig ourselves out of

12/13/2011 2:06:40 PM

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" and we are experiencing phenomenal market growth thanks to president obama."

Lol way to throw a subjective qualifier in there to append to the objectively verifiable part before it

12/13/2011 2:08:33 PM

Updated graph (though still not fully up to date)



[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:09 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2011 2:09:26 PM

in non farm employment. who knows what the fuck that even means. LOL country people aren't people anyways. lol

wow nice starting time in '08. fits perfectly! it shows us in a good perspective!

yay let's follow blindly and vote democrat every time no matter what they believe!!! yay that will fix it!! nobody but my party can ever make a correct decision because we are always right!


still searching for that 2000-2011 graphic on msnbc... anybody?


[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:17 PM. Reason : ,]

12/13/2011 2:10:29 PM

You said "since 2000" and only now bring up 2011 since the two we've shown you don't go past 2010. You could at least go back and edit your original post like the pathetic snake you are.


edit: NVM, the video I linked from msnbc's site shows all the way up until 2011. Still waiting for that one million dollars you now owe me.

Quote :

"in non farm employment. who knows what the fuck that even means. LOL country people aren't people anyways. lol"

Lmao you are such an ignorant shit, you really have no idea what you're talking about and now you openly admit it

[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:18 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2011 2:17:13 PM

^hey man i get it. you'll defend 'your team' at all costs. and you always vote democrat no matter the case. that's cool to know bro. REPUBLICANS CANT HAVE A SOLUTION AND WE MUST FIGHT THEM AT ALL COSTS!

12/13/2011 2:19:14 PM

BUSH IS BAD OBAMA GOOD HERP DERP. ALL GRAPHS MUST START IN DEC OF 08 TO MAKE US LOOK GOOD

12/13/2011 2:21:51 PM

Here ya go, same chart as above but going all the way back to 98, some more perspective

12/13/2011 2:22:27 PM

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"^hey man i get it. you'll defend 'your team' at all costs. and you always vote democrat no matter the case. that's cool to know bro. REPUBLICANS CANT HAVE A SOLUTION AND WE MUST FIGHT THEM AT ALL COSTS!"

Lmao not really. I'll run Obama through the mud on all kinds of issues (War, drug policy, being too easy on the rich, etc), but that doesn't mean I'll cheerlead any retarded mischaracterization you make of the situation.

Do you seriously not understand why we use "nonfarm payroll" for unemployment? Go on, try and find someone who DOES include farm jobs, maybe then you'll get why.

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"BUSH IS BAD OBAMA GOOD HERP DERP. ALL GRAPHS MUST START IN DEC OF 08 TO MAKE US LOOK GOOD"

Lmao it's hilarious that, after all these criticisms you made about a lack of perspective in these graphs, you chose to use one that doesn't even reach 1/4 of the way to the low point it reached right at the end of 2008

[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:25 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2011 2:23:45 PM

LOLOL

as soon as you explain to me why they decided to begin that chart in Dec of 08'

Obama Good. Bush bad. DERP



WILLIS, MAKE SURE NOT TO SHOW ANYTHING EARLIER THAN LATE 08' OR WERE FUCKED!!!

[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:26 PM. Reason : ,]

12/13/2011 2:25:21 PM

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"as soon as you explain to me why they decided to begin that chart in Dec of 08'"

Who cares, I posted on that goes back to 1998. And lol you posted one that stopped mid-2008, just as things were actually starting to get hairy, how can you even begin to criticize.

12/13/2011 2:27:10 PM

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"Who cares"

when you fail. pretend the flaw doesn't exist anymore. lol

[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:29 PM. Reason : ,]

12/13/2011 2:28:31 PM

Maybe they were trying to show, oh I don't know, the crippling recession we had just endured in graphical form.

12/13/2011 2:29:45 PM

How DARE they show the massive recession at the end of Bush's term without also showing the 2 or 3 years of mediocre job growth that came before it

12/13/2011 2:31:26 PM

the non farm graph shows till the end of the year 2008. that's not when it 'started to get hairy', thats literally weeks before it bottomed out just so you know. it's just how that graph happened to end on that year. just for your information so you aren't illiterate anymore and continue to spew your anti right wing, pro left wing propaganda nonstop for hours at a time every day. just so you know and are informed and can make a more informed decision for yourself.

12/13/2011 2:35:00 PM

I'll link it a second time. You graph stops when the job loss is about -300k




For posterity:

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"the non farm graph shows till the end of the year 2008. that's not when it 'started to get hairy', thats literally weeks before it bottomed out just so you know. it's just how that graph happened to end on that year."

Before it bottomed out at -800, more than twice where yours ended.


[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:37 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2011 2:35:50 PM

hey i know you like to spew anti right wing propaganda nonstop but there literally is nothing to read-into from that graph

it literally just happens to end at the 2008/2009 year end/beginning mark. that's it

but i know you really really really really badly want to make it seem like i was trying to do the opposite of your "Dec 08' -> obama has saved the world" graphs

12/13/2011 2:39:01 PM

It ends about 3/4 of the way through 2008. In other words, it stopped before the worst quarter of all. I wonder why you chose that graph? Did you think it would give us perspective?


[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:41 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2011 2:40:14 PM

Hey, I'm trying to be as fair to your comments as possible, but are you trying to say the obama stimulus package of 2009 has worked and has permanently put us on a permanently recession-proof trajectory?

Is that what you are trying to tell us?

12/13/2011 2:42:40 PM

Lmao now you've picked up the goalposts and deposited them in a soccer field on Mars

[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:44 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2011 2:43:49 PM

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"but are you trying to say the obama stimulus package of 2009 has worked and has permanently put us on a permanently recession-proof trajectory?"

Nope, I'm not saying that. I would say that:


A) The stimulus package stopped the free fall and put us into the (relatively better) state of stagnation we're in now.

B) It was not big enough for a full recovery and everybody on the left was saying this long before it actually passed. The package was equal to less than half of the GDP lost in 2009 alone, anybody who expected it to work, and anybody who thought it was a full-hearted attempt at Keynesianism, didn't look at the numbers.

C) We are not recession proof at all because most of the deregulation that allowed the finance sector to bubble and burst like that have yet to be reversed.

[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:47 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2011 2:46:13 PM

^i actually agree with that post 100%. good job.



[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:48 PM. Reason : ,]

12/13/2011 2:46:15 PM

George W. Bush dropped a tv set from the top of a 50 story building, and left office right around the time it was at the 20th floor. Obama took office, ran to the bottom of the building, and started carrying the TV up. Now, conservatives are waiting for him at the 15th floor saying "The TV's even lower than when you took office! Also some of the channels don't work any more!"

12/13/2011 2:48:53 PM

my god. yep bush forced the banks to give those trillions in toxic loans to people who couldn't afford a fucking mcdonalds sandwich.

yep it was 100% the executive branch of the government thats responsible for this. and in particular bush. probably because he has a cousin in the OIL industry right? or maybe because he's just an old white guy fart. Yeh it's def his fault.

12/13/2011 2:51:38 PM

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"my god. yep bush forced the banks to give those trillions in toxic loans to people who couldn't afford a fucking mcdonalds sandwich. "

Nobody forced the banks to give the loans. In fact, the CRA-affected loans not only made up a minority of the toxic ones, but were in fact among the safest ones. It was the fact that banks could bundle these loans into deceptive securities and resell them without regulatory oversight, so there was no incentive to make loans that people could be expected to pay back. And, for the record, it wasn't just poor people, there were plenty of middle and upper class households with a mortgage way beyond their means that contributed.

I mean, you're literally spouting a recession narrative that ONLY the mainstream right wingers (Limbaugh, Beck, Bloomberg) believe in anymore. You're a master of projection, that's for sure.

Quote :

" yep it was 100% the executive branch of the government thats responsible for this. and in particular bush. probably because he has a cousin in the OIL industry right? or maybe because he's just an old white guy fart. Yeh it's def his fault. "

Lol every time. Cry and scream about Obama ruining everything until someone mentions the majority of the damage was done under Bush, then switch gears and crow about how the executive can't be blamed for anything.


[Edited on December 13, 2011 at 2:57 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2011 2:56:10 PM

lol

12/14/2011 2:52:30 PM

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"The stimulus package stopped the free fall and put us into the (relatively better) state of stagnation we're in now."

except, it didn't stop the free fall. the ground did. I imagine shit could have gotten worse, but the stimulus didn't help things at all

12/14/2011 10:14:37 PM

JOBS EVERYWHERE IN THIS THREAD!

12/14/2011 10:25:54 PM

^^^
see this is why i'm convinced they don't even use a real graphing program to make their charts like excel or something similar. like somebody is hand drawing all of them or making web pages or something from html and just fucked up a link in this case or just copy pastad the wrong #'s into the "y graph value" and "line graph height" fields

that's just absurdly random. either way they need to get some damn QA on that shit. embarrassing

12/14/2011 10:53:05 PM

^ Note how the two "mistakes" we are discussing:

- make it look like unemployment under Obama is higher than it really is
- replaced Romney's face with Obama

Do these "mistakes" not suspiciously fit the editorial position of Fox News?

Ok, bias.

12/14/2011 11:21:54 PM

^5

That just cost Romney an untold number of votes. Definitely intentional and quite a clever move worth the payoff.

It makes me curious though. Anyone have any examples of actual subliminal advertising on FNC?

12/15/2011 8:47:58 AM

You mean like how every time a Republican has a scandal FoxNews magically managed to put a big D next to their name?

Or are you looking for something even more subtle than that?

[Edited on December 15, 2011 at 8:50 AM. Reason : /]

12/15/2011 8:50:21 AM

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"except, it didn't stop the free fall. the ground did. I imagine shit could have gotten worse, but the stimulus didn't help things at all"

All it did was add about 3.3 million jobs http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68965.html

12/15/2011 9:53:24 AM

Seriously it's hilarious how folks will crow about the liberal media bias every time an anchor fails to interview a young earth creationist for a perspective on biology....but when Fox news makes glaring errors that coincidentally bolster their editorial bent, it's obviously just a lil slip-up some intern made

12/15/2011 9:55:07 AM