that is no where near off topic in this pounding the almighty UNC school thread.

60 pages of it!

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9/6/2010 6:20:17 PM

i never understood why grad rates matter for athletics, it seems kind of like a conflict of interest since the university itself is responsible for giving grades out. they can just give out A's to all players, or, you know, have someone else write papers and turn them in for the athletes.

besides: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/campusnotes/grade-inflation-at-unc-chapel-hill

9/6/2010 7:00:42 PM

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"Anyway, I guess this thread just doesn't excite me as much as you guys because I know, by and large, things like this are happening at every high-major school out there, including ours... those who get caught get punished and have to reform for a few years before cheating again and those who don't get caught just go on cheating without any problems."

Do these same schools make it their God give right to thumb their arrogance, prestige, and cleanliness in the face of almost every other school in the country? I know your allegiance lies mostly towards the Big East, so maybe you don't fully grasp the magnitude of the hypocrisy being proven in the last few months.

Believe it or not, this is close to a life changing event for many of these holier than thou blue bloods. There is not a more arrogant fan/alumni base than UNC-CH. IT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE.

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9/6/2010 7:34:32 PM

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"57% if pretty bottom of the barrel in the ACC, isn't it? Not really much to be proud of, but also no rumors of impropriety so I guess that's good."

i might be remembering wrong, but I think I heard Joe DeLamielleure on the Packman show either last Thursday or Friday say that he did some checking and about 5-6 years ago, there were only like 4-5 BCS football programs in the country with graduation rates over 50%

granted if a player goes pro after his junior year and never comes back to graduate, that hurts the graduation rate, even if that player had a 4.0 while he was at

his idea was say if you don't have a graduation rate of over 50% you can't play in a bowl game...he made it sound like there would only be a few bowl games each year if that were the case, given current graduation rates

he also said at Michigan State, they used to take classes like 'Games' where they would play duck duck goose and shit like that...and they'd get credit hours so they could remain eligible, but the credit hours wouldnt count towards any majors...the idea was again, just to keep them eligible to play, with zero intention of any of them ever graduating

[Edited on September 6, 2010 at 8:07 PM. Reason : .]

9/6/2010 8:05:45 PM

9/6/2010 8:22:58 PM

Quote :

"DeLamielleure"

How did you spell it when you googled it?

9/6/2010 8:30:33 PM

'delamalure' or something haha

9/6/2010 8:36:23 PM

Quote :

"i might be remembering wrong, but I think I heard Joe DeLamielleure on the Packman show either last Thursday or Friday say that he did some checking and about 5-6 years ago, there were only like 4-5 BCS football programs in the country with graduation rates over 50%"

naw dawg

Football Graduation Rates: ACC
Duke	96%
Boston College	91%
Wake Forest	81%
North Carolina	80%
Miami	75%
Florida St.	73%
Virginia Tech	71%
Virginia	68%
Clemson	67%
Maryland	60%
North Carolina St.	57%
Georgia Tech	49%

http://stanford.scout.com/2/952555.html

9/6/2010 8:44:44 PM

i'll have to find the podcast and remember what he was actually talking about

could be graduation rates for all programs in a school, but that wouldnt make much sense as you'd expect most of the non revenue sport athletes would actually go to class and graduate more than the average football or basketball player

^any way to find archives of those for say, the last 10 years?

[Edited on September 6, 2010 at 8:48 PM. Reason : nm i see the links at the bottom]

9/6/2010 8:46:41 PM

^^does it come down to who has the easiest "football" majors?

or the "best" tutors?

[Edited on September 6, 2010 at 8:48 PM. Reason : lol]

9/6/2010 8:47:51 PM

2009 numbers http://stanford.scout.com/2/827873.html

Links at the top for 2002-2008

9/6/2010 8:49:02 PM

Quote :

"does it come down to who has the easiest "football" majors? or the "best" tutors?"

I don't think it comes down to anyone one thing

Duke and Wake are great (liberal arts) schools ranked at the top

UVA is a great (liberal arts) school, ranked in the middle, below shithole schools like Miami and FSU

Georgia Tech is a great (engineering) school, ranked dead f'in last

9/6/2010 8:51:17 PM

The main point is that its hilarious that borderline mental invalids can graduate at an 80% clip while attending a "Public Ivy".

9/6/2010 8:53:13 PM

Yeah.. I wouldn't really be bragging that football players are graduating at a higher percent than the normal student body when you brag that your school is elite academically.. I'd be a little suspicious of.. Maybe... I don't know.. Grade inflation or very helpful "tutors"

9/6/2010 8:56:44 PM

Quote :

"Yeah.. I wouldn't really be bragging that football players are graduating at a higher percent than the normal student body when you brag that your school is elite academically.. I'd be a little suspicious of.. Maybe... I don't know.. Grade inflation or very helpful "tutors""

Oh, don't you worry.



We've got people........ looking in to that.

9/6/2010 9:02:11 PM

DUBBLEPOAST

[Edited on September 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM. Reason : .]

9/6/2010 9:02:11 PM

if the NCAA would just hire billytalent they could've had this investigation wrapped up a month ago

9/6/2010 9:03:15 PM

lol

9/6/2010 9:04:08 PM

Wait. ya'll don't know who the tutor was?

I know who it was.


twas Beth Bridger. An ECU grad. MAKIN THE PIRATES PROUD!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/genrel/bridger_beth00.html

[Edited on September 6, 2010 at 9:20 PM. Reason : .]

9/6/2010 9:18:24 PM

9/6/2010 9:22:54 PM

I thought this was common knowedge. Am I missing something?

9/6/2010 9:23:54 PM

Yes.

9/6/2010 9:26:44 PM

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[Edited on September 6, 2010 at 9:27 PM. Reason : double post]

9/6/2010 9:26:46 PM

"where she earned her degree in special education"

i think he is right...

9/6/2010 9:27:48 PM

i don't feel like major research tonight.

Wasn't this on like page 30 or something.

9/6/2010 9:29:47 PM

I wanna say I got that info from IC, but then they deleted it.


Yeah we're gonna name a street after her in Greenville.

Ya'll think you hate Carolina. No sir.

WE. FUCKING. HATE. DA HOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9/6/2010 9:31:15 PM

re: Joe DeLamielleure

http://wfnz.cbslocal.com/2010/09/03/primetime-packman-goes-off/#more-12145 - 17 minute mark starts the call

he said about 30% of college football players who go on to play in the NFL graduate

pretty interesting listen, he calls in for like 6 minutes

when he said 5-6 years ago, maybe he meant 10-15, dunno

[Edited on September 6, 2010 at 9:41 PM. Reason : .]

9/6/2010 9:35:43 PM

Quote :

"I wanna say I got that info from IC, but then they deleted it. Yeah we're gonna name a street after her in Greenville. Ya'll think you hate Carolina. No sir. WE. FUCKING. HATE. DA HOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

OH YEAH?



SOURCES SAY THAT WE ARE RENAMING THE BELL TOWER "THE BETH BRIDGER MEMORIAL BELL TOWER"

9/6/2010 9:42:59 PM

Quote :

"I wanna say I got that info from IC, but then they deleted it. Yeah we're gonna name a street after her in Greenville. Ya'll think you hate Carolina. No sir. WE. FUCKING. HATE. DA HOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Problem is you guys hate us, too. I am probably going to go to my first game in Dowdy-Ficklen in October for our game... I don't expect a welcome reception being a State fan.

9/6/2010 9:53:01 PM

they were pretty friendly to me

the guys i know from ecu are cooler than most state ppl i know

9/6/2010 10:46:02 PM

Pretty sure it was determined not to be Beth Bridger. Last I heard it was a black girl, wanna say she went to Elon for undergrad.

9/6/2010 10:58:13 PM

Yea, most ECU fans can relate to most State fans.

No one that doesn't work at banana republic can relate to unc fans. And we honestly feel that they've used their political clout to hold us down with state funding for facilities and the dental program and on and on. And obviously everyone can agree that they think their junk doesn't stink.

ECU/State is a healthy rivalry. I mean ya'll have alot more resources and generally lead most sports series but its always a great time to watch ECU v. State.

We don't feel like state has done very much to hold us down. So its all good. Ya'll are good people for the most part, IMO.

And when it comes to digging a grace for UNC, I will hold hands and sing kumbayah with state fans ALLL DAYYYY LOONNNNGGG!!!!!!




[Edited on September 6, 2010 at 11:52 PM. Reason : .]

9/6/2010 11:51:47 PM

the only person who tried to talk shit to me was in the alumni tailgating area, not the student area

he stumbled over to me and asked me "how hid amuto durn out?"

9/6/2010 11:56:33 PM

Beth Bridger is still an employee in their academic services office. Mary Willingham was another name that got thrown around, but she still works there too.

9/7/2010 12:26:57 AM

^ this tutor issue was figured out a while back, by me, not to be anyone on the UNC- CH cached athletic dept pages, because the girl was an undergrad at UNC-CH when she was contributing to the graduation/eligibility rate. All those people in the front office are admin types.

9/7/2010 1:36:43 AM

BDSttt

9/7/2010 8:07:13 AM

lets get this week started

9/7/2010 8:21:30 AM

Quote :

"Problem is you guys hate us, too. I am probably going to go to my first game in Dowdy-Ficklen in October for our game... I don't expect a welcome reception being a State fan."

i as well

9/7/2010 8:47:43 AM

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/13897213/were-stuck-with-unc-football-but-we-dont-have-to-like-it

Quote :

"But we're stuck with Davis for another 11 games, probably another 12, just like we're stuck with the 2010 UNC football team -- a team that didn't give a damn about playing by the rules, academic or otherwise. "

9/7/2010 9:08:30 AM

^

Quote :

"The college football season is a three-month-long celebration of sport. It's confetti, strobe lights and a kazoo. It's a party. It's a punch bowl. North Carolina is the turd floating in there. "

hahahahahaha

9/7/2010 9:11:19 AM

Doyel is the biggest tool on the planet but this is one article he's written that I can stand up and applaud

9/7/2010 9:17:36 AM

professional troll doing his job, just glad he's not taking aim at us for once!

9/7/2010 9:22:17 AM

Maybe if we all email Doyel he'll keep writing anti-UNC stuff for pageviews

9/7/2010 9:33:15 AM

Quote :

"Doyel is the biggest tool on the planet but this is one article he's written that I can stand up and applaud"

Quote :

"professional troll doing his job, just glad he's not taking aim at us for once!"

9/7/2010 9:43:38 AM

^

9/7/2010 9:45:37 AM

hilaarious article, trolling at its finest and most slimy

Quote :

"Lot of dots to connect there -- pock marks, really. Davis is gone. Maybe he doesn't know it yet, but sometimes people like that are the last to know. He's in the moment. He's not thinking of his future. Hey, I'll think of it for him, and what I think is this: He's gone. He's gone, and he'll finish his career as an NFL assistant. "

9/7/2010 9:48:20 AM

Anyone got a PP account I can check out? want to read some of the premie boards.

9/7/2010 9:54:19 AM

PP premie has nothing really

9/7/2010 9:55:40 AM

yall hearing these "butch davis gonna resign as soon as wednesday" rumors?

9/7/2010 10:01:43 AM

^ if that is true then he already knows it.

they are just trying to keep people from returning season tickets.

damage control at its finest...

9/7/2010 10:09:36 AM