Quote :

"To be clear he says over and over this is worst case and does not profess it to be likely."

That's not exactly what he says. While he does admit this is definitely the darkest timeline, it's also the most obvious and straightforward explanation of basically everything Russia/Trump related. It's not really any different than what many of us have been saying since 2016. At this point, probably the best argument against collusion is there's no way they'd make it this fucking obvious.

7/10/2018 6:12:59 PM

Not going to lie - had a right chuckle when reading that last sentence there...

7/11/2018 10:33:58 AM

We really need Strzok to bitch slap down some of these House Republicans today. Their maneuvering is really getting out of hand, IMO.

I'm hoping Strzok is as savvy as some have suggested.

7/12/2018 8:06:54 AM

His opening statement pretty obviously states what all sane people have said all along. If he really wanted to hurt Trump he could have leaked the Russia investigation in October of 2016. He didn’t.

Also, nothing matters so Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows will get what they want out of it and Matt Gaetz will get drunk and blame the deep state.

** and this is going to be a total and complete shit-show. The GOP has COMPLETELY abdicated any oversight responsibility and today will, in essence, be discovery for Trump legal team.

[Edited on July 12, 2018 at 8:42 AM. Reason : X]

7/12/2018 8:40:37 AM

First question. And we are already at defcon shitshow.

[Edited on July 12, 2018 at 11:08 AM. Reason : The GOP should be fucking ashamed. Gowdy especially knows better.]

7/12/2018 11:03:01 AM

are you watching or is someone livetweeting?

7/12/2018 11:20:40 AM

Watching this is astounding. SMH

7/12/2018 11:43:38 AM

I can't believe they had a private hearing with this guy and then though a public one would be a good idea. He's roasting these fools.

7/12/2018 11:44:48 AM

look at twitter, they are winning their base. the perception doesn't start on equal footing, as long as they can land a few hits they win, it's not even.

7/12/2018 12:21:28 PM

http://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1017430890664878081

holy shit

watch the whole video

7/12/2018 12:39:55 PM

lol, then democrats moved to subpoena bannon so they could bring him back up and then hold him in contempt for not answering questions because they threatened to hold strozk in contempt for not answering questions

7/12/2018 1:02:20 PM

Most frustrating part is the whole kabuki theater of the entire thing.

From that short clip ^^, it seems like everyone showed up with their lines already written down and an exact tit-for-tat script.

So sad where the GOP has taken this country.

7/12/2018 1:19:17 PM

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/396679-top-democrat-displays-guilty-posters-of-mueller-subjects

7/12/2018 2:43:15 PM

A+ visual aids

[Edited on July 12, 2018 at 2:52 PM. Reason : cite the rule lol]

7/12/2018 2:52:26 PM

That was a complete stain on Congress and the House. Hackery of the highest order.

7/12/2018 8:01:18 PM

The only people not embarrassed by this are the very people who should be most embarrassed.

7/12/2018 8:30:42 PM

https://amp.pastemagazine.com/articles/2018/07/reporter-claims-to-have-given-information-to-the-f.html

Quote :

"I apologize, but I’m going to be deliberately obscure on this point (and will neither confirm nor deny if I’m asked, as it’s not something I’ve run by the Mueller team). As I have said, I don’t think I was the first person to provide information on the person I went to the FBI about. I’ll add that this person has no discernible tie to Trump or the Republican Party. But I do think I was the first person to provide certain information about him that may have widened the scope of FBI’s understanding of the matter. Subsequent to my interview with the FBI, I realized certain things about publicly available information. I’ve never shared that realization with the government, but it’s a realization they undoubtedly came to on their own from the same publicly available information. And that realization I had and the government surely also had would have changed the importance of evidence Mueller received via means unrelated to Peter Strzok. That evidence likely implicates the President directly."

[Edited on July 12, 2018 at 10:18 PM. Reason : Quote]

7/12/2018 10:17:19 PM

Indictment incoming

7/13/2018 12:04:30 PM

Mueller finally indicting 12 GRU officers for the DNC hack.

All of those who spread Seth Rich conspiracies, especially from the left, should be ashamed of themselves.

[Edited on July 13, 2018 at 12:09 PM. Reason : Including Guccifer. Roger Stone is so fucked..]

7/13/2018 12:04:31 PM

no worries, eleusis will be here soon to explain why this has nothing to do with trump or the 2016 election

7/13/2018 12:11:47 PM

Here is the indictment:
https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

Two things. Organization 1 is WikiLeaks quite obviously. Assange is a liar.

There is a candidate for Congress from 2016 who will go to jail. Read page 15-16.

[Edited on July 13, 2018 at 12:35 PM. Reason : DeSantis??]

7/13/2018 12:31:41 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/12/politics/strzok-hearing-key-moments-exchanges/index.html

I haven't watched any of the hearing yet, but it sounds like it was crazy.

7/13/2018 12:44:15 PM

working with russian intelligence to own the libs

7/13/2018 12:48:51 PM

12 more Russian GRU agents indicted, this time for the hack of DNC, DCCC, and HRC campaign.

7/13/2018 1:12:44 PM

July 27, 2016 - Trump said "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing"

Also July 27, 2016 -

7/13/2018 1:40:15 PM

the congressional candidate who wanted stolen emails may be Brian Mast

7/13/2018 1:50:16 PM

Marcy Wheeler was speculating it was a Dem. where’d you hear Mast?

7/13/2018 2:03:10 PM

https://twitter.com/HoldenL/status/1017812605338116096

7/13/2018 2:05:21 PM

^^^^ Thats a little bit misleading. The indictment says there were efforts to hack Clinton campaign emails much earlier:



Yet what Trump was publicly asking the Russians to find for were Clinton's deleted *personal* emails. The way the comment you linked to above is written, including the mention of "after hours," definitely seems to suggest the 7/27 spearphishing attempt was in response to Trump.

However, I remember this comment from the debate, and it was clearly a jab at Clinton and her inability to safeguard her communications. It just seems HIGHLY unlikely that Trump gave orders to the Russians in front of millions of people. But then again, everything trump does is defies all logic. So...

[Edited on July 13, 2018 at 2:16 PM. Reason : 1]

7/13/2018 2:15:25 PM

Quote :

" definitely seems to suggest the 7/27 spearphishing attempt was in response to Trump. "

yep, agreed

the dossier said the deal required trump let them know, this was him doing that

[Edited on July 13, 2018 at 2:29 PM. Reason : .]

7/13/2018 2:28:13 PM

^^ Unless you're referencing a different statement, Donald Trump made the comment, "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing... I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press," during a news conference.

[Edited on July 13, 2018 at 2:30 PM. Reason : ]

7/13/2018 2:28:59 PM

I wonder if these indictments are going to turn into as much of a shitshow as the previous round of Russian indictments have with Concord Management actually showing up to court.

7/13/2018 4:49:18 PM

Doubtful. And it's possible Russia retaliates in some way via expulsions because these guys' cover-careers are now over.

Don't forget Concord and shit isn't getting anything progressed without the defendants actually appearing in court which they never will do

[Edited on July 13, 2018 at 5:14 PM. Reason : A]

7/13/2018 5:13:51 PM

^Concord is getting progressed now with only the attorneys showing up. They're a corporate entity, not an individual.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/25/politics/concord-management-robert-mueller/index.html

[Edited on July 13, 2018 at 5:34 PM. Reason : Mueller's team has to respond on this case next week.]

7/13/2018 5:32:36 PM

I thought they were denied discovery unless the defendants actually showed up

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-concord/u-s-judge-limits-russian-firms-access-to-grand-jury-material-in-election-case-idUSKBN1JB215

May still be up in the air

[Edited on July 13, 2018 at 5:53 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on July 13, 2018 at 5:53 PM. Reason : Just saw your edit]

7/13/2018 5:52:31 PM

Who was it that was certain the email wasn't hacked because a random blog said the transfer speeds were too fast or something? Was that adultswim?

7/13/2018 6:17:13 PM

i was never certain, still am not, and still consider this to be a monumental waste of thought for so many reasons.

7/13/2018 6:27:48 PM

^what really bothers me about that is the supposed networking security professionals consulted that couldn't fathom the use of local servers or vpns...

7/13/2018 6:28:25 PM

^^ well you're a trump/putin apologist because of the nonsensical horseshoe where the far left has to pretend like this is all fake because they've tied their boat to the Gallo g point that this played no part in Clinton's loss

^ and that's exactly what the indictment says, they setup a proxy server like every sensible person said is the most common sense reason that blog post was garbage

7/13/2018 6:36:28 PM

Quote :

"well you're a trump/putin apologist because of the nonsensical horseshoe where the far left has to pretend like this is all fake because they've tied their boat to the Gallo g point that this played no part in Clinton's loss "

nah i've explained my position to you over and over and you continuously revert back to this strawman.

honestly you're as much of a waste of time as destroyer, which is disappointing considering we share mostly the same views. you're a hack socialist, more interested in proving your superiority than progressing thought through civil disagreement among allies.

7/13/2018 6:44:09 PM

lol

is this guy serious?

7/13/2018 7:50:02 PM

Roger Stone is definitely screwed

Which means Trump is most likely screwed too as Stone said today Trump was his contact within the whitehouse

7/14/2018 2:19:04 AM

So how long until the narrative becomes, "some collusion is okay if they were just using Russia to stop Clinton"

7/14/2018 10:21:10 AM

We'll have to wait for the house to impeach rosenstein first.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/13/house-republicans-rod-rosenstein-impeachment-719816

7/14/2018 12:35:06 PM

Useful things to remember when the GOP trots out the ol' "Why didn't Obama do something!" talking point:

- The FBI warned the Trump campaign about Russian threats in the summer of 2016.

- When briefed on Russia's actions during the campaign in September 2016, unflushed turd Mitch McConnell not only refused to help, he threatened to discredit any attempts to warn the public as election interference by the Obama administration.

[Edited on July 14, 2018 at 12:52 PM. Reason : ^ Republicans are slowly moving the dial from "Political Obstruction" to "Aiding and Abetting"]

7/14/2018 12:48:21 PM

So it seems like Greenwald (or Lee Fang) is this reporter???

pg 17 of the indictment:

Quote :

"b.On or about June 27, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, contacted a U.S. reporter with an offer to provide stolen emails from “ Hillary Clinton’s staff.” The Conspirators then sent the reporter the password to access a nonpublic, password-protected portion of dcleaks.com containing emails stolen from Victim 1 by LUKASHEV, YERMAKOV, and their co-conspirators in or around March 2016. "

They published this article on Oct 9th 2016:
https://theintercept.com/2016/10/09/exclusive-new-email-leak-reveals-clinton-campaigns-cozy-press-relationship/



Could be someone else, but that seems pretty on point.

7/15/2018 10:57:24 AM

jfc, hannitys coverage of the latest indictments is something else

7/15/2018 7:10:35 PM

This is gonna be a shitshow.

Wonder how many times Obama comes up in the press conference.

7/16/2018 8:14:00 AM

^^Why even bother listening to Hannity? He's been saying the exact same thing since 2008. I mean he's a broken record for over the top conservatism. I've never really seen his show, but at least that is how he is on the radio.

7/16/2018 8:52:05 AM

Given the press conference I’m about 99% sure all Putin did was two hours was play the pee tape on a loop.

7/16/2018 11:44:38 AM