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6/24/2009 7:28:38 PM

2010 Football Scholarship Offers:
Bold = Commit

Map Link:
http://tinyurl.com/ch2nua

QB
No Offers

RB
**** Spencer Ware (Princeton HS) Cincinnati, OH 5-10/212/4.58
**** Mustafa Greene (Irmo HS) Columbia, SC 6-0/200
**** Braylon Heard (Cardinal Mooney HS) Youngstown, OH 5-10/165
*** Tobais Palmer (Georgia Military) Milledgeville, GA 5-10/165
*** James White (St. Thomas Aquinas HS) Fort Lauderdale, FL 5-11/190/4.50
*** T.J. Peeler (Broad Run HS) Ashburn, VA 6-0/175/4.49
*** James Holland (East Lee County HS) Lehigh Acres, FL 5-10/190/4.55

FB
**** Zach Zwinak (Linganore HS) Frederick, MD 6-2/225/4.50

WR
**** Tony Creecy (Southern HS) Durham, NC 6-0/190
**** Alex Kenney (State College Area HS) State College, PA 6-0/190/4.37

TE
**** Andrew Carswell (Sto-Rox HS) Mc Kees Rocks, PA 6-4/199/4.67
**** Brian Vogler (Brookstone School) Columbus, GA 6-7.5/246/4.65
**** Kevin Haplea (North Hunterdon HS) Annandale, NJ 6-4/230/4.75

OT
**** Robert Crisp (Chapel Hill HS) Chapel Hill, NC 6-8/290
**** Andrew Donnal (Anthony Wayne HS) Whitehouse, OH 6-6/260
**** Matt James (St. Xavier HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-7/260
**** T.J. Leifheit (John T Hoggard HS) Wilmington, NC 6-7/320
**** Robby Havenstein (Linganore HS) Frederick, MD 6-7/340
*** Demarco Cox (Yazoo City HS) Yazoo City, MS 6-8/300
*** Skyler Schofner (Johnstown-Monroe HS) Johnstown, OH 6-6/281/5.17
*** David Yankey (Centennial HS) Roswell, GA 6-5/278/5.53
*** Khamrone Kolb (Lake Braddock HS) Burke, VA 6-6/300
*** Jack Deboef (State College Area HS) State College, PA 6-7/265
*** Max Garcia (Norcross HS) Norcross, GA 6-4.5/265
* Michael Dennis (Carey HS) Carey, OH 6-7/260/4.9

OG
**** Eric Mack (Calhoun County HS) Saint Matthews, SC 6-5/318
*** Matt Rotheram (North Olmsted HS) North Olmsted, OH 6-6/305
*** Kalon Davis (Chester Senior HS) Chester, SC 6-5/320
*** Travis Jackson (St. Francis DeSales HS) Columbus, OH 6-4/250
* Christian Pace (Avon Lake HS) Avon Lake, OH 6-4/270 Michigan
* Kolton Houston (Buford HS) Buford, GA 6-5/270

C
* Torian Box (North Clayton HS) College Park, GA 6-3/294/5.31

DT
**** Evan Hailes (Oscar F. Smith HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-2/320/5.00
**** Fre'Shad Hunter (Cary HS) Cary, NC 6-3/250
**** Louis Nix (William M. Raines HS) Jacksonville, FL 6-3/310/5.15
**** DaQuan Jones (Johnson City SHS) Johnson City, NY 6-4.5/285/5.05
**** Jibreel Black (Wyoming HS) Wyoming, OH 6-2/260/5.00
*** Ethan Farmer (South Columbus HS) Tabor City, NC 6-2/257/4.98
*** Michael Thornton (Stephenson HS) Stone Mountain, GA 6-1/275
*** Terry Talbott (Wayne HS) Huber Heights, OH 6-3/265/4.87
*** Marty Everett (Butler County (KS)) El Dorado, KS 6-4/295
* Thomas Teal (Marlboro County HS) Bennettsville, SC 6-1.5/330/5.50
* Jerome Davis (Buford HS) Buford, GA 6-2/255
* Eric Young (Hillside HS) Durham, NC 6-2.5/360/5.72


DE
***** Gabe King (Page HS) Greensboro, NC 6-5/230/4.91
***** J.R. Ferguson (St. John's at Prospect Hall) Frederick, MD 6-4/255
**** Alfy Hill (West Brunswick HS) Shallotte, NC 6-4/245
*** Brandon Burrows (Walton HS) Marietta, GA 6-3/235
*** Kareem Martin (Roanoke Rapids HS) Roanoke Rapids, NC 6-6/229
*** Marcus Rush (Moeller HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-3/210
*** Prince Shembo (Ardrey Kell HS) Charlotte, NC 6-2/225/4.72
*** James Kittredge (Don Bosco Prep School) Ramsey, NJ 6-4/250
*** Corey Crawford (Carver HS) Columbus, GA 6-5/235
* Justin Taylor (South Stanly HS) Norwood, NC 6-4/220

MLB
**** Kendall Moore (Southeast Raleigh HS) Raleigh, NC 6-2.5/229/4.78
**** Justin Parker (Beaufort HS) Beaufort, SC 6-2/210

OLB
**** Christian McCain (Page HS) Greensboro, NC 6-5.5/196/4.75
**** Christian Jones (Lake Howell HS) Winter Park, FL 6-4/215/4.70
**** Javarie Johnson (Dunbar HS) Washington, DC 6-3/210/4.50
**** Travis Williams (Lake Taylor HS) Norfolk, VA 6-2.5/200/4.60
*** Michael Taylor (Westlake HS) Atlanta, GA 6-1/200
*** Troy Gloster (Our Lady Good Counsel HS) Olney, MD 6-0/215/4.60
* Jeremy Grable (Milton HS) Alpharetta, GA 6-0/215

S
**** Keenan Allen (Northern Guilford) Greensboro, NC 6-3/195
**** David Amerson (Dudley HS) Greensboro, NC 6-2/180
**** Jakar Hamilton (Georgia Military) Milledgeville, GA 6-1/200/4.5
*** Roy Mangram (Georgia Military) Milledgeville, GA 6-2/200
*** Daunte Carr (Gainesville HS) Gainesville, GA 6-2/195/4.55
*** P.J. Clyburn (West Iredell HS) Statesville, NC 6-1/205
*** Dontae Johnson (The Pennington School) Pennington, NJ 6-3/185/4.50
*** Ed Reynolds (Woodberry Forest School) Woodberry Forest, VA 6-2/191/4.51
* Pete Singer (Chapel Hill HS) Chapel Hill, NC 5-11/175/4.50
* Frank Tamakloe (Our Lady Good Counsel HS) Olney, MD 6-3/189/4.50 Wisconsin
* Chad Hagan (Canon-Mcmillan SHS) Canonsburg, PA 6-0/207/4.29
* D.J. Green (Westside HS) Macon, GA 6-4/202/4.77

CB
**** Johnavon Fulton (Manning HS) Manning, SC 6-0/180/4.50
*** C.J. Jones (Alexis I. Dupont HS) Wilmington, DE 5-11/175/4.47
*** A.J. Marshall (Southern HS) Durham, NC 5-10/170
*** Lo Wood (Apopka Senior HS) Apopka, FL 5-11/163/4.56
*** Rijo Walker (Bethel HS) Hampton, VA 5-10/171/4.5
*** Reggie Wilkins (Crest Senior HS) Shelby, NC 5-11/180

K,P
No Offers


------------------------------------------STATISTICS------------------------------------------


Scholarships Count
14 Scholarships Available (Note: Just using the # of Seniors for now)
-7 2010 Commits
+1 Transferred/Left Program (Cunningham)
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8 Scholarships Remaining

Recruiting Breakdown
OFFENSE
QB - 0
Backfield - 1
Receivers - 1
Linemen - 2
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Total Offense - 4

DEFENSE
Linemen - 1
Linebackers - 0
Secondary - 2
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Total Defense - 3

SPECIAL TEAMS
Kickers - 0

Geographical Diversity
Georgia - 3
North Carolina - 3
South Carolina - 1

Star Count (highest of the two sites)
5* - 0
4* - 2
3* - 2
2* - 0
1* - 3
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Average Stars - 2.43

6/24/2009 7:31:12 PM

That's a big boy!

Schools Interested (known offers in italics)
Baylor
Duke
Illinois
N.C. State
East Carolina
South Carolina St.
Georgia Tech
South Carolina
Clemson
Maryland
North Carolina


Thomas Teal thread over on Cocky Talk
http://www.cockytalk.com/showthread.php?p=1646133

[Edited on June 24, 2009 at 7:45 PM. Reason : ]

6/24/2009 7:37:51 PM

that's a solid offer list, glad to see us pick up some serious recruiting momentum.

6/24/2009 8:13:18 PM

6'1" 330?? maybe a future 3-4 nosegaurd.

6/24/2009 8:19:15 PM

I don't know if we'll be switching to the 3-4. I mean we will end up having a lot of experienced DTs in the next few years. It'd be a waste to only consistently use one of them. I mean we took 5 DTs last year, with only one of them being a JUCO.

6/24/2009 9:15:31 PM

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"I don't know if we'll be switching to the 3-4."

Didn't Archer say he was eventually going to switch to a 3-4 though? Maybe that's changed, but I definitely remember reading something to that effect.

6/24/2009 9:44:33 PM

Archer has never said anything concrete about switching to the 3-4.

People think because he ran it at Kentucky he'll do it here, and for some reason people just like to say "the 3-4".

6/24/2009 10:02:25 PM

He has mentioned that if had the personnel that he'd like to run it.

6/24/2009 10:10:18 PM

Have you seen those quotes, or is that more prognostication that has been passed around the message boards the past two years?

the way we've been recruiting seems to indicate we're not going to make the switch. We've been picking up a lot of DTs and only a decent amount of LBs. yeah, maybe we could do it, but I doubt it.

6/24/2009 10:12:46 PM

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"Geographical Diversity Georgia - 3 North Carolina - 3 South Carolina - 1 "

Should be
Georgia - 2 (Box, Mangram)
North Carolina - 4 (Palmer, Crisp, Creecy, Singer)
South Carolina - 1 (Teal)

6/24/2009 10:14:21 PM

^^http://www.gopack.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=41956&SPID=3730&DB_OEM_ID=9200&ATCLID=1153960

[quote]GoPack.com: You are playing the cards you were dealt, using a 4-3 defensive scheme because that’s the personnel you have. In the long run, though, you would like to migrate to a 3-4 defense. What do you have to do to if you want to change schemes down the road?[/quote.]

He doesn't say it here, I couldn't find where he did, but the way the question is worded makes me think he did actually say it at some point (I thought I did remember him saying that).

6/24/2009 11:02:44 PM

^

"GoPack.com: You are playing the cards you were dealt, using a 4-3 defensive scheme because that’s the personnel you have. In the long run, though, you would like to migrate to a 3-4 defense. What do you have to do to if you want to change schemes down the road?

Archer: You can’t try to put a square peg into a round hole. Players that are here on this football team make us situated and suited to play a 4-3. We have incorporated some principles of the 3-4 into some of our packages that we have. But right now, our personnel dictates that we need to play with a 4-3. We are still looking to develop some linebackers, and obviously we need more linebackers here. Recruiting will solve that issue, but what we have to do is get our guys to understand what they are doing and get them to play fast. If they can play fast and play with confidence, I think we will have the chance to be a pretty good defense."

6/25/2009 5:03:23 AM

Meaning that if the personnel could change....

6/25/2009 5:04:04 AM

here is Teal's evaluation from ESPN Insider:

Teal is an interesting prospect. He is a big boy who carries a large amount of bulk for his build. On film though he seems to carry his weight well for a kid well over three-hundred pounds. He plays guard on offense and is a solid prospect there, but will likely fit better on defense in college. What initial jumps out at you about this kid is that for his size he moves pretty darn well.

He can get off the ball well and flashes some good quickness at times and you would like to see that be a little more of a consistent thing. With his size he can take on a blocker and hold his ground. He does at times need to watch his pad level. Because he can move well he displays the ability to attack half-a-man and get into the gap and at times can get some penetration and be disruptive. He can loose them at times, but for the most part he is good with his hands. He will use them to create some separation and shed and cross a blockers face.

He locates the ball well and navigates around the line of scrimmage. He can try and get cute at times and pop up and get tall and get caught and needs to maintain good pad level. He is a solid tackler who can deliver a pop, but he needs to work on wrapping up and not just delivering a big blow. As a pass rusher he can get penetration and attack the shoulder and use his weapons to help work past.

Teal is a good sized kid who can cause some problems in the heart of the trenches. With size and ability to move he could make a nice shade or nose at the college level. Good prospect who is a bit of a sleeper among the 2010 defensive tackles.

6/25/2009 10:35:49 AM

Quote :

"but he needs to work on wrapping up and not just delivering a big blow."

yes please.

I can't remember who we were playing this last season but there were numerous instances in the game that an opposing player would run with the ball and our guys would storm into him trying to get a big hit, but end up unsuccessful.

I distinctly remember that initial contact was made somewhere between the 10-15yd line and 4 players caved in on the runner but he still managed to make it in the endzone.

6/25/2009 10:44:35 AM

^^ link to the video, good stuff, kid is a monster and a tree trunk, but can move

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?page=evaluation&recruitId=92713&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3fpage%3devaluation%26recruitId%3d92713

^ you're talking about the EZU game where it was more like 6 players had a chance from about the 15yrd line and came away with shoestrings and broken fingernails.

6/25/2009 11:09:55 AM

Torian Box evaluation on ESPN.

Quote :

"Box is a very good offensive lineman that projects as a guard at the next level. He isn't the tallest player but carries his nearly 300 pounds well. Strong in the upper body and has active feet at all times even though he plays a little high and lacks flexibility in the knees. Uses and works his hands throughout the play; delivers a good initial punch and locks them into the frame of the defender. A devastating down blocker despite not taking a flat inside step; really delivers down hard to the inside and wipes the defensive tackle down the line driving his legs till the whistle blows or the defender is on the turf. Especially impressive on the reach and zone block; gains outside pad control and works his feet to the outside maintaining control of the opponent. Gives very good effort getting downfield to pick up second and third level defenders. Not the most mobile lineman but does a solid job of pulling and trapping. A sound pass protector even though he doesn't have long arms. Sets back and anchors down well even from a three point stance. Jams and stalemates the pass rusher and can shuffle feet to sustain the block and protect the quarterback. Flashes the ability to bury the pass rusher that makes the inside move. Powerful and strong enough to stone the defender that tries to power rush him. Box can excel at the guard position with continued maturity along with flexibility and agility work."

What's interesting is that both Teal and Box are rated, on their rating system, higher than Creecy. I mean, these guys have ZERO Stahhhs, on rivals and scout. TOB et al know what they are doing.

6/25/2009 11:15:43 AM

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"He can loosethem at times"

wow, did espn hire wph's to write that? joke.

6/25/2009 11:20:36 AM

wow, espn rates both teal and box as better prospects than creecy

6/25/2009 11:22:24 AM

I just looked at ESPN's recruiting page for the first time. What a joke. I'm sure they have never seen any of these guys and go completely from other websites.

6/25/2009 12:15:22 PM

Well, it is still June.

6/25/2009 12:31:23 PM

DJ Green has committed. It will be nice to have a big physical safety patrolling the secondary.



[Edited on June 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM. Reason : sd]

6/25/2009 1:25:43 PM

The key to a good 3-4 is you have to have a dominant nose tackle. Not just another D lineman; he has to be able to singlehandedly occupy two blockers on almost every play. Its tough enoughto find guys like that in the NFL, even more so when you're looking at college kids.

If Archer was at Kentucky a few years back, then he had DeWayne Robertson at DT, who went 4 overall to the Jets.

6/25/2009 1:25:45 PM

we won't be moving to the 3-4 anytime soon. bank on it

6/25/2009 1:30:15 PM

CREECY IS NOW A THREE STAR? I KNOW THIS IS TYPICAL STUFF, BUT STILL. DAMN. I WANT THE NAME OF THE STAR GUY. ALL I WANT IS A NAME.

6/25/2009 1:30:28 PM

If he doesn't get moved to SLB that is.

^ he has always been on scout, and he is still listed as a 4 on rivals. nothing has changed.



[Edited on June 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM. Reason : df]

6/25/2009 1:30:41 PM

Quote :

"we won't be moving to the 3-4 anytime soon. bank on it"

oh ok, some guy on The Wolf Web says it, so it MUST be true

6/25/2009 1:31:52 PM

Wasn't Creecy Denzel's character name in a movie ?

Man on Fire, maybe ? Fallen ? Deja Vu ?

I'm 95 percent sure I'm right here

6/25/2009 1:32:05 PM

did you all miss that another prospect has committed?



[Edited on June 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM. Reason : ty]

6/25/2009 1:33:09 PM

^^ man on fire.

and the little girl called her teddy "creecy bear"

6/25/2009 1:34:48 PM

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"DJ Green has committed. It will be nice to have a big physical safety patrolling the secondary"

did this just happen in the last hour? I can't find anything on it

6/25/2009 1:38:57 PM

Thats right

Dakota Fanning, back when was in every other movie for like a 3 year stretch

6/25/2009 1:39:02 PM

^^ yeah, reported at 1:11 by steve williams

6/25/2009 1:40:38 PM

Quote :

"oh ok, some guy on The Wolf Web says it, so it MUST be true"

whatever dude, im not here to impress you. Believe me or don't, i don't give two fucks. I'm just saying, we won't be switching to the 3-4 anytime soon.

6/25/2009 1:40:58 PM

haha and it looks like Boisture 4* (BC's next Matt Ryan) has decommitted and is going to MSU instead.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=165&f=4286&t=4451998

[Edited on June 25, 2009 at 1:44 PM. Reason : fg]

6/25/2009 1:43:49 PM

This thread is really moving now. Green seems to have good size. I know that some other BCS schools like Alabama were on him. I trust this staff. They have an eye for talent. Box seems like a nice get based on his video. He did have a BCS offer from Missisissippi State. Every class is going to have guys that are overlooked. Then you get a guy like Denzel Good who was overlooked and only had offers from us, UVA, and UMD. Once the guys over at Scout.com saw his film he was bumped up to the highest rating for a 3*, and then got that 4th star once one of the national scouts viewed him and approved his bump up.

6/25/2009 1:46:26 PM

i really like teal's video. for a 330 lb man, he can really move....but i saw some swim moves and shit too, which is good cuz the big guys usually just like to bull rush everytime

6/25/2009 1:51:40 PM

McCollum tears up Georgia

6/25/2009 1:55:10 PM

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"Believe me or don't, i don't give two fucks. I'm just saying, we won't be switching to the 3-4 anytime soon."

I don't believe you and here's why: you don't have any evidence to support your claims...you're just speculating and I can speculate for myself. If you've got some evidence to support your claim then I'll consider it but I don't give two fucks about the speculation of some halfwit "expert" on TWW.

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"haha and it looks like Boisture 4* (BC's next Matt Ryan) has decommitted and is going to MSU instead. "

good, fuck BC...they deserve all the misfortunes that have happened to them in the offseason.

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"Green seems to have good size. I know that some other BCS schools like Alabama were on him. I trust this staff. They have an eye for talent."

Yeah, I'm definitely happy about his commitment and I certainly trust TOB and company as talent evaluators. Nice to see them get the ball rolling recruiting wise...I'd really like to see Freshad Hunter commit but it sounds like his recruitment might go on for awhile.

6/25/2009 1:58:14 PM

Hopefully Amerson is next.

6/25/2009 2:02:07 PM

Spaces are few and filling up fast. Hope that puts some pressure on some of the guys on the fence.

6/25/2009 2:05:23 PM

hershculez has been bringing the recruiting heat lately...keep it up.

6/25/2009 2:07:33 PM

Amerson and Hunter are who I'd like next, as well as a QB commitment. I wonder if we could convince Thomas to decommit from ASU and run with us instead? I mean it's just a verbal. Coaches continue to recruit players after they've already committed elsewhere. If not him then I think Days would be a good pickup. He's a very good athlete as well as a pretty good QB, and could play elsewhere (most likely as a DB) if he doesn't pan out as a QB for us. I can see why the coaches would like Green. He could potentially play SS or SLB, which means that you only have to use one scholarship on two positions. That definitely comes in handy when you are limited in scholarship numbers.

6/25/2009 2:19:53 PM

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"I don't believe you and here's why: you don't have any evidence to support your claims...you're just speculating and I can speculate for myself. If you've got some evidence to support your claim then I'll consider it but I don't give two fucks about the speculation of some halfwit "expert" on TWW."

then whats your point in quoting me and talking shit, mr. behind the keyboard bigshot? when did i ever say i was an expert? Just ignore me if you don't give a fuck what i have to say, word? I know more GA's that come into contact with the coaches everyday than you could imagine, so you can just fuck yourself for all i care

6/25/2009 2:22:42 PM

What did O'Brien run at BC? What did Welsh run at UVA?

6/25/2009 2:31:12 PM

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"then whats your point in quoting me and talking shit, mr. behind the keyboard bigshot?"

My point is you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

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"Just ignore me if you don't give a fuck what i have to say, word?"

if you don't try and pass your own speculation off as fact then I will certainly ignore you since you don't actually have anything worthwhile to contribute to the discussion.

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"I know more GA's that come into contact with the coaches everyday than you could imagine"

I done arguing with you, so don't bother to respond.

back to football related stuff

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"I wonder if we could convince Thomas to decommit from ASU and run with us instead?"

dear god I hope so, that would be huge...plus there's the added bonus that it would fuck ASU over.

[Edited on June 25, 2009 at 2:38 PM. Reason : .]

6/25/2009 2:36:34 PM

armorfrsleep, stop being an ass. Generally, the sort of info being floated, like in wolfpack2105's post, is Premium board info being passed along and people just generalize it to keep TWW from getting in trouble again.

6/25/2009 3:28:53 PM

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"armorfrsleep, stop being an ass"

he started talking shit to me because I called him out for posting some speculative nonsense that he presented as fact...and I'm being an ass?

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"Generally, the sort of info being floated, like in wolfpack2105's post, is Premium board info being passed along and people just generalize it to keep TWW from getting in trouble again."

bullshit. So now if you don't link your sources or any evidence to support your claims you're automatically posting premium board stuff? It wasn't premium board info it was just him making shit up.

[Edited on June 25, 2009 at 3:52 PM. Reason : .]

6/25/2009 3:51:16 PM

don't turn this into the basketball recruiting thread. keep the personal stuff out.

6/25/2009 4:16:24 PM