^once they do that, I'm in for a premium.

8/8/2007 9:39:07 AM

kainen - no lag whatsoever? how far is your router from the 360? right now with my setup, the router is upstairs bedroom and the 360 in the living room right below that bedroom

8/8/2007 10:13:50 AM

ive asked this before

but ive got the premium model with a BB service plan. I'd like to get one w/ HDMI input just as a function of space availible on my HDTV (i've got two HDMI inputs)

do you think once the HDMI across the board models come out, I can just walk in with my 360 and say its broken and have them give me a gift card or straight up exchange broken for one with HDMI? any BB people have any idea if they would let that slide?

8/8/2007 10:17:41 AM

No lag whatsoever. I've actually had zero lag experience on Xbox live! to date. I'm not trying to bend the truth or sell it or whatever...it just really works well. Say all you want about the 360's hardware failures, and there is plenty to say, their online implementation is top shelf. That adapter follows suit, with the only drawback being a somewhat costly add on. But it is very seamless, latch it on, you set it up in your network settings in the dashboard, take a static IP, put in your WEP or whatever and works immediately.

I have my 360 in my living room which is downstairs...my router is upstairs right above the room. If you drew a line from the two I'd imagine it would be about 20-25 feet max.

If i've ever had a problem it was on the router side. I have a Linksys V5 g-router that drops my connection once or so every week, and I have to power cycle. But that happened before I got the 360 in the network.

8/8/2007 10:44:52 AM

gotcha, im using a wrt54g

8/8/2007 10:59:12 AM

My 360 was shipped to texas yesterday.

cant wait to get it back so i can play MLB 2K7

8/8/2007 11:08:12 AM

I'm really looking foward to Bioshock.

8/8/2007 11:15:41 AM

^i am but i'm not at the same time...i think it might be more of a rent for me, play it, enjoy it, beat it, return it...

8/8/2007 11:56:27 AM

don't buy Surf's Up

but rent that shit its fun as hell for like a day

i hadnt seen the movie but the game is basically like some Cool Boarders / Tony Hawk type shit on water with penguins on surfboards

8/8/2007 12:01:36 PM

demo was aight but I still had to give you shit about playing a game where the main character was voiced by Shia Lebouf

8/8/2007 12:02:25 PM

but it has Elliot in it, the dumbass deer from Open Season (another game to rent)

when Gamefly reviews say something about "yep even my young daughter about had the game beat in a few days" sounds like some easy gamerpoints

8/8/2007 12:05:08 PM

Man, this is really cool. I'm going to pull the trigger.

Comes with soundtrack, big daddy figurine, and 'making of' DVD.

8/8/2007 12:19:35 PM

I'm not gonna lie, Bioshock looks like hands down the game of the year, and an instant classic in the vein of Half-Life, Zelda: OoT, and RE4. If I wasn't confident my PC could run it, I would not hesitate to by a 360 just to play this game. It really does look that good. 8/21 can't come soon enough.

8/8/2007 12:45:49 PM

it's on pc? i thought it was a 360 exclusive...i dont follow pc games much anymore

8/8/2007 1:02:14 PM

We'll see.

Yeah I hope you are right. Although it appears to be shaping up that way. It's starting an early brushfire.

5/5 Stars in Alternative Press
95% in PC Gamer UK
98% in Gamers
10/10 in OXM. Before anyone throws in the "it's an xbox mag, what'd you expect lol!" They've only given one other 10/10 before.
Quote: Dan-IGN "Charles actually just played the 360 review version of the game this week at a review event. I can't really talk about it much except to say that all signs point to - amazing."



[Edited on August 8, 2007 at 1:05 PM. Reason : i love that last paragraph in that review..]

8/8/2007 1:04:25 PM

stranglehold demo is out, shits kinda dope

8/8/2007 3:36:14 PM

i bet if I buy a 360 today and it redlights I could send it in after they come out with the standard HDMI and 65nm chips they would replace it with one of those....newer systems with HDMI...don't you think?

8/8/2007 4:07:47 PM

id venture to say no. they'll send you a refurbished one back, which will more than likely be an old one. only way they def wouldnt do that is if you sent one with hdmi in it to them.

8/8/2007 5:29:22 PM

thats sort of what i was asking ^^^^^^^^

i know if something is obsolete and you have a service plan at best buy, they are not above just giving you the comparable item as a replacement with new features or whatever, so if i want HDMI on my xbox and i wait a couple months till the old ones cycled out, im wondering if i could service plan my way into an HDMI model

8/8/2007 5:43:27 PM

I did the same thing with the BB plan and the elite a few weeks ago. Just paid the 80 dollar difference.

Now I think I can go back and get 30 dollars back since they lowered it to 450 today.

8/8/2007 6:06:17 PM

did you repackage it all back up or just walk in w/o the box and be like "yo shit is busted, b!"?

i mean, i know they're pretty indifferent about shit, like walmart level of [/care]

8/8/2007 6:16:09 PM

I got the box April 06 and its worked flawlessly. Only thing that was wrong was for some reason the memory card wouldn't read as being in the slot.

Normally not a problem, but with NCAA, I wanted to get the rosters. So I went to BB (you can go to any store, doesnt matter where you bought it) up to the Customer Service desk and told them my box didn't work anymore. I mentioned the red lights since I figured thats the thing the hear the most often. I was gonna just get another premium but I saw a stack of elites near the desk and decided the added features were worth 80 bucks. So they charged me 80 extra for the elite, plus 80 for another 2 year plan starting then, kinda pricy but worth it for peace of mind about the system ever fucking up and not wanting to deal with MS.

[Edited on August 8, 2007 at 6:50 PM. Reason : oh and I put all the original wires and shit in the box and tried to make it look pretty organized]

8/8/2007 6:48:27 PM

got premium today.... so happy

8/8/2007 9:55:11 PM

apparently if you have a unit manufactured on or after July 3rd, 2007, thee Premiums are now shipping with the upgraded heatsinks and HDMI ports (and maybe the new 65nm chips?) They've been reported at Target.

Also, it seems the Premiums at Circuit City (the free "table tennis" bundle) are older stock, meaning no beefed up heatsink or HDMI.

8/8/2007 11:59:36 PM

Goddamn that's HUGE news. Makes me wish I could upgrade myself

Although mine hasn't RROD yet but the HDMI port makes me envious.


Oh by the way folks, I tried the Eternal Sonata demo on Live. That shit aint half bad! I mean it's an RPG and all, but as beautiful as they come. Hardly any load times, battles are quick and you actually run up to your enemies and attack them in a big 3d field. It's about as nice as a JRPG I've seen in a while. Graphically it's stunning.

8/9/2007 12:12:15 AM

so wait a second, if the premiums are being updated, why can't i return mine and then just replace it with a new one? It makes no sense to me that there are two premiums now

8/9/2007 8:12:02 AM

welcome to the wonderful world of early adoption!

The most relevant upgrade to me is still unknown: whether or not these new HDMI-enabled premiums are shipping with the cooler 65nm chips.

[Edited on August 9, 2007 at 9:43 AM. Reason : d]

8/9/2007 9:40:47 AM

^^i dont know the details, but all 360's have a manufacturing date on the back/serial# placard. They could just look at the date of your console and decide whether or not your console was eligible for the 65nm chips, etc

mine was manufactured in october 2005 so i think i'm a little off

8/9/2007 9:58:07 AM

65nm chips have been put in new ones except they aren't out yet, they've been manufacturing but yet to be in the ones in stores yet, this fall they will be

but they have new, less hot heatsinks so

8/9/2007 10:19:31 AM

fuck...I just bought a Premium with table tennis from circuit city, don't you think they would accept it if I took it back and said I got one for my bday or some other bullshit excuse and went to wallmart and copped one w/ HDMI and 65nm chip?

8/9/2007 10:20:22 AM

^hell, just tell them you got a 65nm premium for your birthday...if you have the receipt an bought it recently they shouldnt have a problem

8/9/2007 10:21:17 AM

nice...I bought it yesterday...do you think it's worth it to try to keep the table tennis game lol

Before I do this though...I was wondering if there are any CONFIRMED reports about the HDMI and 65nm chips coming in through Target or Wallmart

8/9/2007 10:36:04 AM

yes, there are CONFIRMED reports.

Just make sure it's built in July 07 or later.

Don't try to keep the game, it will just make you look like a crook when they ask where it is.

AFAIK, no one has yet confirmed/denied that these HDMI Premiums are 65nm.

8/9/2007 10:40:09 AM

just found http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/08/xbox-360-premium-confirmed-shipping-with-hdmi/

shows the xbox 360 w/ HDMI and confirmed 65nm chip...now I'm wondering...If I return my 360 I just got yesterday, and go to target or wallmart, how the fuck will I know if the box I'm about to buy was manufactured after July 4th??? (basically asking how I would know if the 360 has the HDMI and 65nm chip without opening the fucking box?...assuming they don't mark it on the box)

8/9/2007 10:42:07 AM

damn it this sucks

i refuse to buy a new xbox though

so i'll just keep sending them back as they break

8/9/2007 10:56:45 AM

^^you can lift the box, where it shows the UPC code and see the manufacture date. Without opening the box at all.

8/9/2007 12:21:33 PM

^so if they happen to have the box in the case at wallmart or target or something should I just get the employee to open the glass door and flip over all the boxes in the store? lol not sure if that's the case, but that guy is probably going to the think I'm fucking retarded...

Yeh I know what you're talking about though...the little flip hole in the box...but people aren't even sure if they xbox's w/ HDMI have the new 65nm chips...to be honest, I really don't need HDMI and probably won't ever, but I really want the chip that fixes the overheating issues...I could care less about HDMI

8/9/2007 12:31:17 PM

yeah the date and serial number can be seen but you have to open a little perforated flap...not exactly something you could do with all the boxes...maybe ask somebody a bunch of questions like does it have the new chips or the HDMI

8/9/2007 12:38:50 PM

yea cuz the retail employees are sure to know....


Even though that Engadget link says they "obviously" have the new 65nm chips, I have yet to see that fact confirmed anywhere.

8/9/2007 1:08:22 PM

^exactly...

unless he was being sarcastic because of my numerous amount of posts in the last few hours

8/9/2007 1:13:43 PM

i dunno...i figure there are some people who work in stores in the video game section simply to get discounts...i figure somebody is bound to know...maybe not some retard at walmart but i'm sure somebody at best buy or definitely somebody at EB Games or somewhere would know

8/9/2007 1:15:56 PM

^def. know what you're talking about with the EB and some at BB

I'm working near the EB at Six Forks so I'll stop by and let ya'll know what I find out...may end up bringing my box back for an exchange if they have the newer one's

8/9/2007 1:53:20 PM

sweet, gamefly is shipping me the darkness, woohoo

8/9/2007 2:05:42 PM

For anyone who doesn't care about HDMI, it looks like Amazon.com is trying to dump all their old Premiums for the low low price of $329.99.

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-Console-20GB-Hard-Drive/dp/B000B43OY4/ref=pd_ts_vg_5/002-5697119-6866406?ie=UTF8&s=videogames

8/9/2007 4:41:08 PM

^are those the premium consoles?

8/9/2007 4:42:51 PM

I'd say yes.....

Quote :

"What's Included in the Game System * Xbox 360 console * 20GB detachable hard drive * Wireless controller * Xbox Live headset * High-definition AV cables * Ethernet cable * Detachable faceplate * Xbox Live Silver membership "

8/9/2007 4:43:59 PM

oh shit my bad, i wasnt thinking premium vs. core, cause i have a premium...i was thinking you meant the ones newer than the premiums

[Edited on August 9, 2007 at 4:52 PM. Reason : i was thinking elite]

8/9/2007 4:52:08 PM

I got the elite a few weeks ago, but the hdmi doesnt make that make much of a difference and I really haven't taken advantage of all the extra hard drive space.

But I got the BB warranty so in 2 years I'll just trade it in for the newest model of 360, whatever that will be. Hopefully with like a terrabyte of storage and like a 10 CD carousel so my lazy ass doesn't even have to get off the couch to play a different game.

8/9/2007 5:36:43 PM

^ let's take lazy to a whole new level...MS must have really started something with wireless controllers...you don't even have to get up to turn your system on or off...

8/9/2007 9:50:16 PM

^sometimes i actually have to get up off the couch to get a battery pack from a charge controller when my controller goes dead

at least i can open and close the tray with this bad boy

8/9/2007 10:06:56 PM