the #1 thing that makes me wonder about lowe is the minutes given to horner

1/13/2009 9:08:51 PM

the only thing I can think of is like others have said, costner can take himself out of the game fairly quickly and maybe sid is starting recognize this, giving his minutes to horner.


either way were fucked in that situation

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:10 PM. Reason : rawr]

1/13/2009 9:10:01 PM

god i'd rather have a costner who takes plays off then horner any day of the week

at least if costner stays in and involved he is more likely to keep playing

1/13/2009 9:11:14 PM

Quote :

"not really He played the people who were playing well and fells is a fucking idiot. Ben had some silly plays as well Mays is not the new teague when no one wants to move around and score"

Ummm no. How is Horner playing over Costner at the end of the game?? One of the worst coaching jobs I've ever seen, at least since last game.....Sid Lowe is losing my confidence by the game...

1/13/2009 9:11:57 PM

Horner contributes shit, I can't believe he makes free throws however.

1/13/2009 9:12:04 PM

one more thing, we are on an 11 game ACC losing streak.. but don't fret, we just NEED to give Lowe more TIME!!! The guards are tremendously better in year #3.

1/13/2009 9:13:09 PM

not good right now

1/13/2009 9:13:22 PM

^^ damn... 11?

1/13/2009 9:13:50 PM

well it'd be nice to go ahead and give Lowe the boot early if we don't land Wall, we aren't landing Favors apparently.

^ yeah 9 straight last year + 2 this season.

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2009 9:14:06 PM

^^^^so you dont think mays is better than degand and javi then?

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM. Reason : ^^]

1/13/2009 9:14:36 PM

It's gonna be even better when he misses on all 3 of his big recruiting prospects.

1/13/2009 9:15:02 PM

no I was actually impressed with Mays tonight, he made some freshman mistakes of course, but he definitely looks like he could blossom.. problem is as a team collectively we don't give a shit about playing defense. And we can't hit a fucking jump shot to save our lives.

Of course being better than Javi/Degand isn't much to brag about.

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2009 9:16:27 PM

Just got back from the game. Do we actually run set plays? It sure doesn't look like it most of time because half of our players are standing there instead of moving to get open or setting screens.

1/13/2009 9:16:45 PM

11 is fucking crazy

1/13/2009 9:16:47 PM

Quote :

"at least if costner stays in and involved he is more likely to keep playing "

Did you see costner last year....enough said

Im not defending horner at all, Horner is crap too

I fucking hate it when costner lazy fucking cheezburger ass comes into the game when his "mind" isnt in the game.

1/13/2009 9:18:32 PM

Quote :

"Did you see costner last year....enough said"

yes that is my point. he and mccauley were the best players and the leaders and all of a sudden lose their starting job(s) and some untested frosh becomes the focal point for day 1.

not saying he/they were right for quitting, but my point is when costner is BMOC, he plays hard

1/13/2009 9:23:14 PM

Quote :

"11 is fucking crazy"

I'm not worried about our 11 game losing streak in the ACC.. you want to know why? There are fucking basketball geniuses in this thread that have called me a bad fan and proclaimed Lowe to be the next Coach K and Dean Smith!

I now realize I'm a fucking idiot for wanting to have a competent coach.

1/13/2009 9:24:27 PM

if it gets to 12 against a bad GT team at home, the floodgates will open and this thread hits 100 pages in a week.

(Losing Favors to those guys is salt on the open wound)

1/13/2009 9:27:50 PM

^^



It has more to do with the fact that we know how you feel about lowe, as you've stated countless times in this thread and any other bball related thread

The fact that you keep on repeating the same negative shit doesnt do anything and the people who have not given up on the team are getting tired of it.

^agreed

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM. Reason : ^^]

1/13/2009 9:27:54 PM

i want competent players

1/13/2009 9:28:05 PM

11 game ACC losing streak, we're in year #3 of Lowe.. you going to tell me he is the next coach K and Dean Smith too? I pity you.

1/13/2009 9:29:10 PM

and now you're just trolling

1/13/2009 9:29:56 PM

fuck you, we suck. You can't argue that point. We've sucked for 3 years straight! At least we made the NIT with Herb's players the year after Lowe took over. There is your silver lining. Give me something to be realistically optimistic about.

1/13/2009 9:31:42 PM

Never said we didnt suck

we do suck

but your bitching and complaining with this sky is falling outlook is annoying as fuck

Dean? Coach K? So over the top its ridiculous

1/13/2009 9:33:56 PM

^ sorry you hate to hear the truth, I'm not going to post a bunch of fairy ass bull that we are going to go to the NCAA tourny by being 9-7 this year (go back and read that funny shit, it's in this thread). We suck and this is the thread where you are allowed to hold the coach accountable, sorry if it doesn't fit your agenda.

The coach is fucking horrible.

1/13/2009 9:36:42 PM

go die in a fire.

1/13/2009 9:38:03 PM

Did you even read what I typed?

I agree with you dude, we suck

I highly doubt anyone will say that we will go 9-7 with the way the last 3 games have panned out.

Keep on thinking the sky is falling



[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM. Reason : have not and]

1/13/2009 9:39:24 PM

^^go post a thread to extend Lowe's contract you cock sucker.

^ did you read what I posted? Come on man. I told you I'm not one to bullshit. Page 56 of this very thread.

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:42 PM. Reason : 56 exactly]

1/13/2009 9:39:25 PM

1/13/2009 9:43:38 PM

Ive picked up on the fact that you are not a bullshitter

its the way you go about it that is a little ridiculous

Taking legitimate issues and blowing them way the fuck out of proportion

I know we suck, you know we suck, pretty much this whole board now knows we suck

and if someone thinks we dont suck then rip on them

^agreed Im done

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:44 PM. Reason : done]

1/13/2009 9:44:29 PM

erice85 is pissed because he was one of the ones predicting we'd go to the NCAA tournament and I called him a fucktard. He doesn't know a one damned thing about basketball.

page 56 of this thread also, for reference. No bullshit here.

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:46 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2009 9:46:02 PM

optimism is a damnable offense

live your life in fear. hope is forbidden.

1/13/2009 9:46:12 PM

eh fuck it

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:46 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2009 9:46:13 PM

^^ I'll live my life in reality. You must be a democrat.

and optimism with this team isn't a damnable offense, but a stupid gesture.

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2009 9:47:40 PM

too bad i never said that, asshat.

never said anything of the sort

keep making shit up.

You already look like the biggest dumbass in this thread, even when you have a valid point because of your arrogant, troll based method of posting

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:50 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2009 9:49:45 PM

erice, page 56 of this thread

Quote :

"most of her article sounds accurate to me."

~ erice85

she said NC State was a surprise NCAA tourny team.

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2009 9:50:41 PM

yes, point to an argument i never made.

then everyone will see how ridiculous you are



MOST is not necessarily defined as NC State. She said we were a possible tourney team. Never did I. I only argued that UNC was the true unbeatable team for us.


Keep trying though. I love how you waste your time trying to make up an argument I never made



[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 9:54 PM. Reason : .]

1/13/2009 9:51:58 PM

^ read the edit

1/13/2009 9:52:19 PM

goodnight, erice85.

1/13/2009 9:59:37 PM

do you really plan on doing this for the rest of the season?

what the fuck are you trying to accomplish?

1/13/2009 10:04:30 PM

You'll have to excuse those of us who are down about the current state of NC State Basketball.

We're not used to losing 11 straight ACC games and watching people trying to be positive about it.

1/13/2009 10:35:19 PM

^^sounds like he's began to write his screenplay

Get The Fuck Out Out Of Town, Part II

1/13/2009 10:38:05 PM

Lowe must be fired. He is a nice guy and an alumnus, but he cannot coach college basketball. I really wish that he would start looking for another NBA job to save everyone heartache.

1/13/2009 10:51:42 PM

^ waaaaaaay too early for that talk...

perhaps we should take bets on how high the ACC losing streak would have to get before Lee Fowler drops the axe?

20? 25 (0-16)?

even at a 25 game ACC losing streak Fowler would probably let him stay till next season because of potential incoming talent. Kinda silly to discuss, perhaps we should focus our energies on ways Sidney could improve as a coach? Maybe he could read and learn from our vast combined knowledge...

[Edited on January 13, 2009 at 10:56 PM. Reason : ..]

1/13/2009 10:54:41 PM

Ah yes, the wonderful "incoming talent" argument. The second this talent shows up, Lowe's coaching talent will show up as well!

1/13/2009 11:07:24 PM

Isn't it about time to charge oyboyee another $5? The definition of troll is debatable, but he's definitely one.

1/13/2009 11:11:47 PM

honestly though if lowe is going to be fired, i'd rather do it when the new coach has sophomores in lorenzo brown and richard howell. we've seen before how bad losing a recruiting class ends up.

sounds bad, but it's true.

1/13/2009 11:12:07 PM

Yeah, I'm sure they'll appreciate that.

What about the year of non/negative-development they'll be getting under Lowe?

1/13/2009 11:15:56 PM

well they won't appreciate us firing the coach they signed letters to play for so late in the recruting season, either.

moot point though, lee fowler's not firing anyone... and i maintain that he shouldn't? i guess?

1/13/2009 11:23:27 PM

fuck we suck. hard to believe we were better off two years ago.

WTG Lowe, you've definitly been hard at work, earning them big bucks.

1/13/2009 11:26:20 PM