ok...damn, I haven't gotten the OTA yet? you just just check the firmware update right?

8/3/2010 9:20:35 AM

Menu > Settings > System Updates > HTC Software update is where I found it

8/3/2010 9:30:31 AM

If it doesn't show up for you, change your date forward two weeks and it will be there for sure.

8/3/2010 9:50:52 AM

first thing i've noticed is you can rotate to landscape by clockwise now (in addition to counter clockwise). that was always kinda annoying.

touchscreen appears to be more sensitive(or at least it's more accurate for me on this site)



hey how are we supposed to search our email? i've dug around some, but can't seem to find it.

8/3/2010 10:04:36 AM

just press the search key (EVO right?). within Gmail the search only applies to your mail.

8/3/2010 10:47:55 AM

Or launch Gmail and hit the menu button.

8/3/2010 11:29:22 AM

Do you guys use GMail or HTC Mail?

8/3/2010 11:31:25 AM

Gmail is far superior than the default mail imho.

And Swype (http://www.swypeinc.com/) is a must have too.

8/3/2010 11:38:18 AM

I haven't used swype since I rooted. Is it still beta?

8/3/2010 11:50:24 AM

Random question. Someone at work asked me this question this morning since they knew I had been looking at phones recently. However I really didn't know how to answer them at all.

They saw a local wireless company that lists unlimited talk/text/data for $49.99 a month for 1 year contracts and unlimited talk/text/data for $39.99 for 2 year contracts. They were asking me why they should even consider Verizon or AT&T etc. when comparing their prices to this local company. I really have never looked into those small local carriers so I didn't have a good answer to help them decide.

I assumed for these small carriers that you'll get hit with stuff like roaming etc. that is pretty much never a problem anymore on the national networks but I didn't want to say something incorrect. Anyone know what he should watch out for in these local wireless companies? (I've never even heard of the company he told me about, and I can't remember the name off the top of my head).

8/3/2010 12:09:56 PM

^^ It is still in Beta, but it rocks. You can request an invite at their site and it usually shows up in a day or two. It is insanely fast and was created by the same guy that made T9 predictive text.

8/3/2010 12:11:43 PM

I mean I've had a beta account for a while, I just haven't reinstalled. For a while I thought I couldn't live without it, but HTC's keyboard is pretty damn nifty as well.

8/3/2010 12:22:09 PM

^^^This probably isn't the right thread for it but anyway, IMO the phones on those local carriers usually suck. I would be surprised to see an Android phone on Cricket or one of those. But the biggest problem I think is usually reception. Some of them (Boost mobile for example) piggyback on other carriers networks so reception wouldn't be a problem. Also, I imagine data transfer on those carriers would suck (if it's even available).

8/3/2010 2:31:57 PM

yea that's what I figured. And yea I know it isn't the right thread but I didn't want to start a brand new thread just for that since it wasn't info for me, just info that I would pass along to a co-worker if anyone had any insight.

Thanks.

8/3/2010 2:35:18 PM

Verizon Android Lineup Comparison

http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/03/comparison-droid-vs-droid-2-vs-droid-x-vs-incredible/
*Droid X has 512MB rom. Not sure why it's showing 256.

8/3/2010 2:42:49 PM

you know, aside from the processor, bump in ROM/RAM, and 802.11n, the "Droid 2" isn't much hardware different than the Droid

i have Swype, DVD capture, Wifi Hotspot, & 2.2 with my rooted Droid

[Edited on August 3, 2010 at 2:55 PM. Reason : .]

8/3/2010 2:54:41 PM

yeah, aside from having to have the newest device, I'm not seeing a reason for current droid owners to go with the Droid 2 especially if you're rooted and overclocked. The keyboard isn't really improved enough to go with the Droid 2 and the performance gap between the upgraded processor and memory is pretty narrow compared to a droid with a custom rom. I'll probably look at the fascinate when verizon releases it but think I'm pretty much set on waiting til Verizon gets their LTE rolled out in Raleigh/Wilmington and offers and LTE Android.

8/3/2010 3:21:59 PM

swype isn't working for me. only if i tap out the letters.

8/3/2010 3:31:47 PM

^ sounds like you've probably got an expired version. The swiping stops working when it expires.

8/3/2010 3:32:51 PM

Quote :

"but think I'm pretty much set on waiting til Verizon gets their LTE rolled out in Raleigh/Wilmington Denver and offers and LTE Android."

ditto.

8/3/2010 3:33:48 PM

Quote :

"swype isn't working for me. only if i tap out the letters."

froyo broke swype for me (Evo). I just uninstalled and reinstalled and it was fine.


speaking of froyo, i just noticed the new buttons when you are composing a text: a button for including pics/video/songs etc and a button to send the message (helpful when the keyboard is visible).

what else have you all noticed?

8/3/2010 3:41:02 PM

there's pages of what's in Froyo, read back through them.

here's a couple more:
-update all
-automatic updating
-'move to SD' option in manage apps menu
-bluetooth voice dialing
-google search updated to include a drop down for searching all,web,contacts,apps...
-enable/disable data access
-similar calls now grouped
-one-touch settings in camera app
-previous/next buttons in gmail

8/3/2010 3:48:36 PM

is anyone getting these OTA yet?

8/3/2010 3:58:51 PM

Droid Froyo update for anyone who doesn't want to wait for the OTA
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/03/manual-android-2-2-update-for-motorola-droid/

8/3/2010 4:42:55 PM

^Change your phone's date to August 17, 2010 and check for a Firmware Update. You can get Froyo OTA once you do that...

8/3/2010 4:44:19 PM

Reason for not including Wifi tethering on the Droid 2.2 update:

Quote :

"Update: Finally, a clear answer. A reader reached out to us with a fantastic bit of insight: while the hardware in question (the Texas Instruments WL1271 WiFi chipset) is technically up to the task, the firmware that runs on said hardware isn’t. Whereas the unofficial hotspot solutions utilizes Adhoc mode, Google’s official Android 2.2 hotspot requires “Access Point” mode — something which TI hasn’t gotten around to adding in any firmware updates. Verizon wasn’t exactly correct in saying that missing hardware was the culprit, but it doesn’t seem like their intentions were nefarious."

from: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/08/03/is-verizon-lying-about-the-droids-capabilities/

8/3/2010 5:54:57 PM

yeah, that was mentioned yesterday and is probably why they could never get the integrated mobile hot spot to work on the Froyo leaks. Still doesn't explain why they couldn't include usb tether though.

8/3/2010 6:01:02 PM

my X gets delivered tomorrow .... can't wait

8/3/2010 6:29:52 PM

Froyo manually loaded... damn thing is a bit slow right now. I assume because it's doing a lot of syncing.

8/3/2010 7:22:38 PM

Good to see you finally joined us.


http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/08/03/motorola-droid-2-spotted/





Successful LTE Trial Locations Too bad it doesn't actually list cities

8/3/2010 7:28:12 PM

A new facebook app is available, v1.3. It has a recent photo stream section and notifications bar on the home screen. There's still no fb "chat" option but that may be a good thing depending on some of your friends, heh.



[Edited on August 3, 2010 at 11:12 PM. Reason : sdfgasdg]

8/3/2010 11:04:36 PM

The aim app has built in Facebook Chat. Not really much help if you don't use aim though.

8/3/2010 11:11:32 PM

i didn't want to chat with you anyway!

8/3/2010 11:11:37 PM

8/3/2010 11:13:00 PM

About to give this a go. It's the latest post-official Froyo leak.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-discussions/3828-mydroidworld-again-exclusive-new-droid-os-release-frg22-fastest-rom-yet.html#post25275

8/4/2010 12:38:35 AM

hmm can't seem to get it to work through ROM Manager...i really suck at this newfangled technology. you kids.

[Edited on August 4, 2010 at 1:31 AM. Reason : nvm, got it!]

8/4/2010 1:27:50 AM

So, I am 1year into my 2year contract with VZW they are letting me upgrade if I sign a new 2year contract.

Is it worth it? I would either get a Droid X or a Droid 2? Which is better?

Or are there better phones coming out within the next year for VZW? When are LTE phones due out?





Switching carriers is not an option.

8/4/2010 9:13:12 AM

how the heck did you pull that off? normally, they won't let you "extend" your contract to get into a new phone like that. it's usually after 18 mos. into a 24mo. commitment.

8/4/2010 9:17:21 AM

im doing the same thing ... as i posted earlier they sent me a flyer in the mail saying i could upgrade early with the discounted prices for a new 2 yr agreement

i just get a new 2 years started from today (when i activate it when it arrives)



i have 10 months until the new every two thing would be in effect, when i called to order the X, i remember them saying that since they had a lot of new phones coming out that they wanted to give me a chance to take advantage

[Edited on August 4, 2010 at 9:25 AM. Reason : ]

8/4/2010 9:24:32 AM

Quote :

"About to give this a go. It's the latest post-official Froyo leak."

i did this and i think i may have messed up my phone- it just stays on the red eye logo :-/

[Edited on August 4, 2010 at 9:44 AM. Reason : restoring...double :-/ Ø]

8/4/2010 9:39:08 AM

^^ did they give you any other details about how/why you were getting to upgrade? i have 8 months left myself, and the Droid X is looking pretty nice.

8/4/2010 10:10:08 AM

I was 11 months from an upgrade, and I just emailed them from thier website.

Someone from the local store called me a day later and said they had processed an upgrade request and I could come by and pick out a new phone whenever I wanted.

I even set an appointment with the person, walked in and they had everything I had asked for all set up and ready to check out.

Was a pretty good customer service experience. The place was packed busy too (launch day for the incredible), so it was doubly suprising the took the time out to help me personally and not make me wait in line.

8/4/2010 10:21:46 AM

^^ I installed it over the 2.2 Lithium Mod rom I was running and everything went fine. It took about 5 min to boot up the but that's normal with flashing some of the new roms.

Quote :

"So, I am 1year into my 2year contract with VZW they are letting me upgrade if I sign a new 2year contract. Is it worth it? I would either get a Droid X or a Droid 2? Which is better? Or are there better phones coming out within the next year for VZW? When are LTE phones due out?"

What plan do you have? Voice plans over 49.99 are eligible for annual upgrades anyways. Spec-wise they're pretty much the same so it depends on whether or not you want the larger screen or the option of a physical keyboard. The Fascinate (Galaxy S) should also be coming out soon for verizon and there's another device called the Droid Pro that's rumored to be a world phone and supposed to be out before years end.

8/4/2010 10:22:37 AM

Optimum, what's your current phone?

I dunno if that has anything to do w/ it but i upgraded to a BB Tour last September. Normally I throw away ad-flyers, but i had my eye on the X for a while and looked at THAT flyer lol

if you want, you can call the same number and just act like you got a flyer, if you didnt lol

it was 1-877-492-9991

8/4/2010 10:28:33 AM

I got a BB Tour in like September of last year, and hated it. I hated it enough to pay full price for a Droid the morning they went on sale in November.

8/4/2010 11:15:00 AM

hmm well try to call them and do that thing where you fool them into thinking you got a upgrade flyer

8/4/2010 11:29:18 AM

I'm sure they have the accounts flagged for upgrades if they sent flyers but who knows.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/npd-android-is-now-top-selling-os-in-american-smartphones/

Quote :

"NPD: Android is now top-selling OS in American smartphones By Vlad Savov posted Aug 4th 2010 10:46AM Step aside, BlackBerrys and iPhones, the American consumer has voted with his wallet and picked Android as his favorite flavor in the quarter just gone. NPD's number crunchers have just announced their findings for Q2 2010, concluding that 33 percent of phones sold during the period had Android on board. This marks the first time in eons (Q4 2007, to be more precise) that RIM has not held the crown of most purchased smartphone OS on US soil, with its BlackBerrys accounting for 28% of the market and Apple's iPhone occupying third spot with 22%. Motorola and HTC are the key suspects fingered for Android's continuing ascent, with the "large screen allure" of their handsets playing well with the buying public. Skip after the break for a more detailed breakdown."

8/4/2010 11:31:33 AM

^ quiet, you.

8/4/2010 11:44:35 AM

Haters gonna...jailbreak?

8/4/2010 11:48:50 AM

Ok, I've now rooted my droidX. How do I open the bootloader on startup to load roms? I can only seem to find droid instructions, and my DX doesn't have an X key

8/4/2010 12:13:12 PM