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"i find it very sad that some state fans are so desperate they're willing to cheer for someone who walked on their school"

12/4/2011 12:09:13 AM

mvp

conference champion

playing in the rose bowl


dont hate just because we have a mediocre turd of a coach who wouldnt get there if he had a decade of russell wilson as his qb

12/4/2011 12:09:21 AM

I loved watching Russell play at State, but I gotta be honest, I was never attached enough to him as a person to root for him at another school. Kinda of a boring guy, and delusional/naive about his baseball career.

12/4/2011 12:09:50 AM

Perfect way to end the first B1G championship. Pussy punters rule the world!

12/4/2011 12:10:16 AM

don't see how its desperation to pull for a great player. Sorry you're a butthurt little faggot

12/4/2011 12:11:06 AM

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"MV-mfing=P"

what an odd and interesting equation

12/4/2011 12:11:47 AM

remember when TOB had matt ryan at boston college and lost to chuck amato?

then he left and the guy who took over won 11 games with him and got to #2 overall?

lol

12/4/2011 12:12:09 AM

all this and he was barely even at practice!

12/4/2011 12:12:21 AM

more than he was before 2010 at state. remember, he washed out of baseball in june of this year. he didn't report till fall ball in 2010

[Edited on December 4, 2011 at 12:13 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2011 12:13:33 AM

Desperate? He's an NC State graduate, a great player, and a great person. If you're going to mad at someone, be mad at TOB ... or for the Rockies for drafting him. Don't be mad at a guy who just wanted a chance to play

12/4/2011 12:13:36 AM

imagine if State had an O-Line!

Russell could have won us 7 games this year

12/4/2011 12:14:04 AM

not sure why goalielax is so butthurt about practice

pretty sure it only takes like 2 days to learn the option

12/4/2011 12:15:15 AM

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"Desperate? He's an NC State graduate, a great player, and a great person. "

12/4/2011 12:16:33 AM

A great player and a great person >>> a mediocre athletics program that constantly delivers shit to its fans. Some people care more about organizations, and some people care more about people.

I'm the negative person but you queers can't appreciate the few unequivocally good things associated with our program?

12/4/2011 12:19:48 AM

we're a basketball school, obviously

12/4/2011 12:21:13 AM

Discussing Russell Wilson really brings out the homophobic slurs on TWW.

12/4/2011 12:24:08 AM

It's true. I, personally, like Russell Wilson. I heard he hangs dong, and I'd like to see that.

12/4/2011 12:26:32 AM

Russell = Thundergun
EXPOSED

12/4/2011 12:42:19 AM

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" thanks again vt football, you tremendous letdown. please beamer, just step down you useless sack of skin..."

12/4/2011 12:42:57 AM

I, too, enjoy rooting for Russell Wilson.

12/4/2011 12:45:24 AM

So at the end of the day, a plane crash killing a basketball coach helps shape the national title in football. Weird.

12/4/2011 1:24:06 AM

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"Just to introduce you to OSU. An offense that scores approximately every 11.3 seconds. A strength of schedule ranked 10th, compared with Alabama's at 38th. A team whose only loss was in double overtime to Iowa State the same week an OSU school plane crashed, killing two women's basketball coaches. A school that beat five teams with winning records to Alabama's three. A team with four FIVE wins over BCS top 25 teams to Alabama's two. Hello?"

as per Rick Reilly

Oklahoma State's resume is solid and I think this year may be one of the best cases for a playoff system (esp since we are not talking about Boise St or TCU arguments)

[Edited on December 4, 2011 at 2:05 AM. Reason : another win over a team with a winning record]

12/4/2011 2:02:58 AM

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"Just to introduce you to OSU. An offense that scores approximately every 11.3 seconds."

Are they shooting free throws or something? I get how he got this number, but Jesus, Rick, read a rule book.

12/4/2011 2:33:26 AM

I would prefer to see OSU vs LSU national championship game. However, I hope Bama ends up in the game based on the computer calcs. so that more people will be pissed off at the BCS.

12/4/2011 2:36:22 AM

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"Oklahoma State's resume is solid and I think this year may be one of the best cases for a playoff system"

this year is the best case they've had against a playoff. tell alabama that they already had their shot.

12/4/2011 3:42:46 AM

you're an idiot

12/4/2011 4:34:07 AM

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"i find it very sad that some state fans are so desperate they're willing to cheer for someone who walked on their school "

Wilson graduated, and since TOB wouldn't wait him out he had the right to go anywhere he wanted.

If you can't be happy for a fellow alumnus then kindly STFU.

Put another way, if he had chosen to enter the NFL draft after being at NCSU for 4 years and getting his degree would you still think he walked on his school?

[Edited on December 4, 2011 at 8:27 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2011 8:08:33 AM

Even if you determine alabama to be the 2nd best team (debatable), they have already played LSU, at home, and lost. If alabama won the national champiionship game 6-3 then you still have a tie between those two teams and OSU if they win their game.

However, if OSU plays LSU, theres a clear national champion.

12/4/2011 9:12:35 AM

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/12/4/2609593/bcs-rankings-standings-projections-oklahoma-state-alabama

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"A rematch looked to be inevitable. As LSU finished off its resounding victory over Georgia in the SEC title game Saturday afternoon, it seemed the Tigers were destined to face Alabama again in the BCS championship game. But all that might have changed Saturday night after Oklahoma State delivered an emphatic rout of Oklahoma, who had won Bedlam eight consecutive times going in. That, coupled with Virginia Tech's meltdown in the ACC championship game, plus a few peripheral events, might be enough to send the Cowboys to face LSU for the BCS title on Jan. 9 in New Orleans. The final BCS Standings, to be unveiled Sunday night at 8:15 p.m. ET, should feature a near photo-finish for No. 2 between OSU and Alabama, with the computers locking in the Cowboys at No. 2 and Alabama at No. 3. And then it would be up to the voters to render their final verdict. Projected final BCS Standings: 1. LSU, 2. Oklahoma State, 3. Alabama, 4. Stanford, 5. Oregon, 6. Boise State, 7. Arkansas, 8. Kansas State, 9. South Carolina, 10. Wisconsin, 11. Baylor, 12. Virginia Tech, 13. Michigan, 14. Houston, 15. Oklahoma, 16. Michigan State, 17. Clemson, 18. TCU, 19. Georgia, 20. Nebraska. More of them will still have Alabama at No. 2, in both the coaches and Harris polls, but OSU's edge in the computers might be enough to overcome the Crimson Tide's shrinking advantage in the two human polls. A few things that happened Saturday night that helped turn the tide: * Oklahoma State's impressive victory over Oklahoma was an eloquent statement delivered with maximum impact. The Cowboys proved that not only they could score, but they could play sound defense and cause game-changing turnovers. The lopsided outcome required the voters to give them another look. * Virginia Tech's blowout loss against Clemson removed a direct competitor for the precious No. 2 votes, not to mention the all-important No. 3 votes. Remember, OSU was No. 5 in both polls coming into Saturday night's game. Only with the Hokies out of the way could OSU close its poll gap on Alabama. * CBS's shameless and disingenuous cheerleading for Alabama ultimately will prove to have done more harm to the Tide than help. If the SEC's network home had done nothing, it's likely it wouldn't have caused enough voters to have such a revulsion to reject an LSU-Alabama rematch. Whereas Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson definitely made the difference in Florida's favor in 2006, the opposite might be true in this case. * Finally, the fact that the only other worthy one-loss teams - Alabama, Stanford and Boise State - all failed to win their respective conferences bolstered OSU's case. Even though the BCS never made that a requirement to reach the title game, many voters would like to consider that a prerequisite. (Of course, if I'm wrong about all this, it'll be a Dewey Defeats Truman moment.) Nevertheless, we might have a shocking conclusion to this strange regular season that has already proved that LSU is unquestionably the best team in the land. But because of the system that we have, the Tigers will have to play one more game to make it official. There is no right answer or wrong answer to who plays in the BCS title game; it's all a matter of opinion. And the way the BCS is set up, that is the inevitable outcome. The change before the 2004 season to make the standings more reliant on human polls puts nearly all the power in the hands of the voters. At the end, the 174 individuals casting ballots in the coaches and Harris polls will decide whom they want to see in the BCS title game - masqueraded as arranging a No. 1-vs.-2 matchup."

12/4/2011 9:18:33 AM

It'll be disappointing if the voters can't see beyond their SEC bias. Alabama is the second best team in the SEC, which lost to the best team in the SEC. That they're the second best team in the country is up for considerable amount of debate. OSU has played a tougher schedule, beaten more top ranked teams, and didn't lose any home games (their only loss coming in 2OT away).



Of course, those numbers look a little more even currently since Baylor beat Texas to knock them out of the rankings (wtf Baylor?!?!).

Oh, and OSU won their conference. Conference championships should matter.

It's a shame if they don't get a shot at LSU. Unfortunately this doesn't feel like the last time we had a potential rematch with OSU/Michigan, where so many people were against the idea that Florida got slotted into the national title game (Fla winning 41-14, of course with Michigan losing their Rose Bowl game 32-18).

If they do a rematch I wonder how many people will start calling it the SEC National Title. I guess we'll find out this evening.

[Edited on December 4, 2011 at 10:28 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2011 10:26:56 AM

This might be a dumb question, but how did the Big East have 3 games going on yesterday?

12/4/2011 11:26:56 AM

^^ I agree, I don't think there is any question that Ok State should get their chance at a title

12/4/2011 11:28:32 AM

^^The same way the Big 12, err Big 11...the one with OU & Texas had multiple games going on. Conferences without enough teams for a conference championship game could just schedule games as normal

12/4/2011 11:29:56 AM

^^ I just hope that if they do get their chance they don't wear that gawd awful gray helmet/uniform combo

Their orange uni/white helmet combo would be nice and classic, or if they wanted to go modern the all-black uniforms.

Even Oregon managed to have nice looking uniforms for their National Title shot.

12/4/2011 12:02:19 PM

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funny that this chart leaves out something important: who they lost to. Iowa Fucking State. Iowa. Fucking. State. Alabama lost a coin toss to the #1 team. OSU lost to Iowa Fucking State. that's all I need to know. And you are gonna give them credit for beating barely top 25 teams and a POS Texas A&M that choked worse than Clemson did against us? And Baylor? BAYLOR? bullshit.

and it's also worth noting what some one else said: the death of their BASKETBALL COACH is affecting the FOOTBALL national championship.

[Edited on December 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM. Reason : ]

12/4/2011 1:08:42 PM

Are you trying to say Baylor isn't very good or something? Have you seen any of their games?

[Edited on December 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM. Reason : RGIII is terrifying]

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"and it's also worth noting what some one else said: the death of their BASKETBALL COACH is affecting the FOOTBALL national championship."

oh right i forgot, you are just trolling or a complete dumbshit

12/4/2011 1:10:16 PM

you must not have seen Baylor play this year

12/4/2011 1:11:01 PM

I've seen Baylor play. they are decent, but they are little more than a really good QB, something any team with a decent defense should be able to stop. forgive me if I don't tremble at the football power that is Baylor. I also don't tremble at the might of Iowa State.

12/4/2011 1:37:22 PM

ahhh, so you haven't seen them play

got it

12/4/2011 1:39:41 PM

whatever helps you sleep at night

12/4/2011 1:49:56 PM

Iowa State is a bowl team, and the game was at ISU, and also it went to double OT. I really dont consider Ok State losing to ISU that damning of a loss. I would much much much rather see Ok State play LSU than Bama get a rematch. What would be hilarious is if Ok State plays and beats LSU

"Failure of BCS isn't that we won't have a worthy champion rather it's fact that we will never know if Oklahoma St is better than Bama" -Dave Telep

[Edited on December 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM. Reason : adsf]

12/4/2011 1:53:54 PM

So Alabama is the 2nd best team in the nation because they beat two current top 25 teams?

[Edited on December 4, 2011 at 1:56 PM. Reason : And didnt even make their conf championship]

12/4/2011 1:54:56 PM

it's not a horrible loss. but it's not the same as losing a coin toss to the #1 team, either. we're a bowl team, but I'd certainly hold it against Bama had they lost to us

12/4/2011 1:55:18 PM

I just cant get on board with Bama getting a rematch after they lost at home a month ago, especially after Ok State beat the shit out of Oklahoma last night

12/4/2011 1:58:48 PM

Well ncsu > #14 Clemson > #17 va tech

So in the computers alabama losing to ncsu wouldn't be as bad statistically

12/4/2011 2:00:16 PM

so what if they had beat the shit out of OU 2 months ago and just barely squeaked by A&M yesterday?

12/4/2011 2:07:00 PM

what if monkeys could fly?

12/4/2011 2:08:09 PM

^^ True. Iowa State is garbage.

[Edited on December 4, 2011 at 2:09 PM. Reason : F]

12/4/2011 2:08:55 PM

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"Iowa State is a bowl team, and the game was at ISU, and also it went to double OT. I really dont consider Ok State losing to ISU that damning of a loss."

the #2 team in the nation was up 24-7 in the 2nd half to a team who had just survived a 3-point scare to 2-10 Kansas...Iowa State is a bowl team because there are too many bowls and therefore a team with a 6-6 record can technically be a bowl team...it was a terrible loss

Bama, while they lost at home, didn't win their division, nd didn't play for their conference title...held the #1 team in the nation to 9 points in an overtime game (3 points in the first 3 quarter)...oh and by the way they missed FOUR field goals

12/4/2011 2:25:22 PM

they lost at home...exactly.

they had a chance and didnt win, AT HOME.

let OKST get a shot.

Im just looking forward to seeing the golden girls of LSU again.

[Edited on December 4, 2011 at 2:44 PM. Reason : g]

12/4/2011 2:44:03 PM