bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
I can't wait to see the massive crow feast that the left will have when Obama doesn't win. Of course, they will try to claim fraud, but that's ACORN's territory. 10/11/2008 6:12:37 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
^I don't understand this post. 10/11/2008 6:17:21 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
what I mean is, those who are strongly predicting an Obama win will have to eat a lot of crow. it's a common figure of speech. also, while democrats in groups like ACORN engage often in voter fraud, when they lose, they claim the republicans cheated. 10/11/2008 6:20:10 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
^^ he thinks McCain has a chance. it's kind of cute 10/11/2008 6:20:48 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Are you assuming McCain is going to win or something?
Sheesh, I guess you religious people do have a lot of blind faith. 10/11/2008 6:21:04 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
a lot of Dewey supporters felt the same way you do. 10/11/2008 6:22:10 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
So do statistics fall on the left or the right? Because i'm pretty sure it's not just "the left" that's predicting an Obama win right now. 10/11/2008 6:22:33 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
why does it matter ... nov 4th is the only day that counts, and thats 3 weeks from now ... more than 40% of this country is not oblivious to obamas bullshit ... 40% of the population still says mccain should be in the white house ... theres no reason to give up this soon and leave that many people unrepresented 10/11/2008 6:32:08 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.intrade.com/ 10/11/2008 6:32:46 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 75% of that 40% still thinks Bush is a good president.
So really, only 10% of the thinking part of the country wants McCain to be pres. 10/11/2008 6:35:31 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
i still want McCain to be president, i just don't want thundercunt to be anywhere near the administration. 10/11/2008 6:37:17 PM |
kdawg(c) Suspended 10008 Posts user info edit post |
don't forget, McCain was the same guy who EVERYONE thought was out of the Republican primary race 10/11/2008 6:37:54 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
75% of obama supporters lack a high school diploma, and you agree with them
i guess we differ on what to consider the "thinking part" of this country
[Edited on October 11, 2008 at 6:41 PM. Reason : ] 10/11/2008 6:39:04 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
oh great, we're making up stats now? 10/11/2008 6:41:33 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
he can make stats from generalizations .. why cant i? 10/11/2008 6:42:19 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
great job buddy! 10/11/2008 6:42:53 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
obama makes facts and stats up too... he gets support from you ... so its worth following 10/11/2008 6:44:54 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
i rest my case 10/11/2008 6:46:32 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^ Educated people are voting Obama:
[Edited on October 11, 2008 at 6:48 PM. Reason : ] 10/11/2008 6:47:48 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
yea thats accurate
as an 18 year old, i could have responded to that poll and be considered a phd
give me a fkn break 10/11/2008 6:51:15 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
What a poor reflection on the American education system. 10/11/2008 6:52:32 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
pollster.com is a good site 10/11/2008 6:54:03 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ lol
Despite our gradeschool system, the US is regarded as having one of the best graduate and post-graduate systems in the world. 10/11/2008 6:55:14 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
it can also be a socialist indoctrination system if you are weak minded. the CHASS classes I had at NCSU were nothing but socialist drivel disguised as education. 10/11/2008 6:58:36 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
example? 10/11/2008 7:06:40 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
obama predicted the future http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH2iufUU1f4
[Edited on October 11, 2008 at 7:36 PM. Reason : ] 10/11/2008 7:36:02 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it can also be a socialist indoctrination system if you are weak minded. the CHASS classes I had at NCSU were nothing but socialist drivel disguised as education.
" |
So people without highschool degrees are too dumb and vote Obama, and people with college degrees are the product of socialist indoctrination?
How then do you delineate the demographic that votes conservative? If it's not the high school dropouts, and not the college grads, then who? Judging by TWW, i'd say it's the people most delusional about reality.10/11/2008 8:57:53 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What I am seeing reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history. Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse." |
-Rep. John Lewis
Oh snap, he went there.
McCain once called Lewis one of the three wisest men he knew.10/11/2008 8:58:53 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ this may be a dumb question, but what other period in particular is he referring to?
[Edited on October 11, 2008 at 9:05 PM. Reason : McCarthyism?] 10/11/2008 9:04:43 PM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
civil rights, my nigga 10/11/2008 9:20:11 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
George Freakin' Wallace.
Lewis was a part of the civil rights movement. I don't think he's -too- off in his commentary.
[Edited on October 11, 2008 at 9:53 PM. Reason : ] 10/11/2008 9:52:58 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Okay.
I don't really the parallel between anything McCain has been doing and the civil rights era or any aspect of it.
Sure they're using some dirty tactics, but nothing that wasn't tried in the past 2 elections at least. 10/11/2008 10:04:21 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Who is Sarah Palin?
We've only known her for a month. It's dangerous for someone who is such an unknown to get into national office. 10/12/2008 12:56:49 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us
Haha, McCain supporters are some ignorant motherfuckers.
To the McCain supporters in this thread, find me one clip of Obama supporters spewing ignorant, vile, and untrue shit in a public setting. 10/12/2008 1:53:35 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "75% of obama supporters lack a high school diploma, and you agree with them" |
75% of McCain fans are trailer park trash that'll fuck there sister than shoot off their .22 rifles when McCain wins (not that he will).
Give up. Obama sucks but McCain fumbled the ball. The GOP just needs to pull their shit together and win 2012 by getting back to what republicans are supposed to care about.........10/12/2008 3:14:46 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
More like 2016. Reelection might as well be automatic. 10/12/2008 3:28:39 AM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
Good god, I've never seen such a large group of choad suckers in my life. The fact is anybody half as articulate as Obama with a D beside their name could've stepped up and spouted the same shit after 8 years of George Bush and came out a saint to you guys. (dont argue, you know its fucking true)
His shits old hat, promises to the gullible morons of the country that want to see a celeberity as president instead of the real McCoy John Mccain, who's moderism is just we need for this country. If you cant see Obama's throwing the same reduntant past related curveballs at Mccain even though he and his party have had the same hand in the events of the past two terms than your an idiot. If anything Mccain has been the toughest republican on Bush, anti-energy bill, anti-tax cuts. But of course since he supports the war he's Bush's evil twin to you guys. And whats more rediculous is that Obama gets off scott free for his shady beginnings in chigago.
"No corrupt politician here, no sir" "He's for change"
please 10/12/2008 4:27:45 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The fact is anybody half as articulate as Obama with a D beside their name could've stepped up and spouted the same shit after 8 years of George Bush and came out a saint to you guys." |
i mean this shit is true...not that it makes mccain votable, espeically after picking palin, but seriously10/12/2008 5:07:16 AM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Haha, McCain supporters are some ignorant motherfuckers.
To the McCain supporters in this thread, find me one clip of Obama supporters spewing ignorant, vile, and untrue shit in a public setting." |
It's as if you've never actually seen Obama himself speak.
Quote : | "[Obama] promises to the gullible morons of the country that want to see a celeberity as president" |
This hit the nail on the head right here. This guy was just nominated because he's a fad, nothing more. Idiots just want things to be like they were before the economy and US image went down the tubes. The problem is that all he says is he's going to "change" some shit. Undefined change isn't what we need though and he wont be able to just fix everything. In fact, it's as if people want him to be a dictator IMO. They want him to come in and force everyone in the government and all citizens to do EXACTLY what HE says to do. It seems as if his supporters want an all out dictator, not a president. The president should not have all that much power.
Plus, the kid has no experience, is a shitbag and wants to give the gangsters as much power as possible. He's already done it for Illinois gang members, he'd just love to get the rest of our guns in his hands too. Of course, I'm sure he wont be giving up his hired protection (Which, of course, uses guns), will he?
[Edited on October 12, 2008 at 6:53 AM. Reason : ]10/12/2008 6:46:14 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""He's an Arab."
"No, he's a decent person and a citizen, and a family man."" |
I don't know how some people could hand it to McCain for coming in with decency when the convo above is one of the sickest things out there. What exactly did he mean with his answer? He didn't explicitly tell the bitch that Obama is not an Arab. So, his answer could mean:
1) Yes, Obama IS an Arab, but a decent one, and one who values family, so don't be scared.
OR
2) No, he can't be an Arab, because he is a decent person, so don't be scared.
Either way you look at it, McCain is an asshole. What he should have done was said this:
No ma'am, that is false; Obama is not an Arab. And in a great country like America, it shouldn't matter EVEN IF he was an Arab. He is a citizen and a presidential candidate, and that's all that matters. Judge him on his words and actions, not his skin color or ethnicity.
Wouldn't that have been awesome? (AND THE RIGHT THING TO DO)10/12/2008 7:18:52 AM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
This place will go nuts if McCain pulls his comeback trick.
Cosy Djinn Machine '08! 10/12/2008 9:40:10 AM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
he may well do that. polls are not the election. 10/12/2008 10:16:38 AM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
^^^In his defense, I think he was speaking generally to the fears that had been brought by the folks there. I'm sure he didn't meant that Obama is Arab, or that Arabs are not decent, family-oriented people. 10/12/2008 10:23:45 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Plus, the kid has no experience, is a shitbag and wants to give the gangsters as much power as possible. He's already done it for Illinois gang members, he'd just love to get the rest of our guns in his hands too. Of course, I'm sure he wont be giving up his hired protection (Which, of course, uses guns), will he?
" |
Haha, wow.
Where is all this crazy coming from in the McCain supporters? I don't remember seemingly normal people becoming nutjobs back in 00 and 04.10/12/2008 11:44:48 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Losing sides say desperate things in desperate times. It was such a long time ago, but republicans predicted the same doom and gloom shit in 1992. Dems did the same in 2000 and 2004.
Just give the losers time to emote, and they will eventually reach the acceptance state.
Whether people are ready to admit it or not, Obama or Mccain won't produce very different results in their presidencies. Our system does not allow drastic change to happen, which is good.
[Edited on October 12, 2008 at 12:05 PM. Reason : .] 10/12/2008 12:00:58 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
*** BREAKING -- EXCLUSIVE ***
DID OBAMA KILL VINCE FOSTER?
10/12/2008 12:12:50 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""He Lied" About Bill Ayers? McCain cranks out some false and misleading attacks on Obama's connection to a 1960s radical. By Viveca Novak and Brooks Jackson | factcheck.org Oct 10, 2008 | Updated: 7:33 p.m. ET Oct 10, 2008 Summary In a TV ad, McCain says Obama "lied" about his association with William Ayers, a former bomb-setting, anti-war radical from the 1960s and '70s. We find McCain's claim to be groundless. New details have recently come to light, but nothing Obama said previously has been shown to be false.
In a Web ad and in repeated attacks from the stump, McCain describes the two as associates, and Palin claims they "pal around" together. But so far as is known, their relationship was never very close. An Obama spokesman says they last saw each other in a chance encounter on the street more than a year ago.
McCain says in an Internet ad that the two "ran a radical 'education' foundation" in Chicago. But the supposedly "radical" group was supported by a Republican governor and included on its board prominent local civic leaders, including one former Nixon administration official who has given $1,500 to McCain's campaign this year. Education Week says the group's work "reflected mainstream thinking" among school reformers. The group was the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, started by a $49 million grant from the Annenberg Foundation, which was established by the publisher Walter Annenberg, a prominent Republican whose widow, Leonore, is a contributor to the McCain campaign." |
http://www.newsweek.com/id/163396
Quote : | "Re “Politics of Attack” (editorial, Oct. 8) and “Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths” (front page, Oct. 4):
As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.
Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.
Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.
I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.
William C. Ibershof
Mill Valley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008" |
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/opinion/l10ayers.html?_r=2&ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin10/12/2008 12:15:15 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Education Week says the group's work "reflected mainstream thinking" among school reformers. The group was the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, started by a $49 million grant from the Annenberg Foundation, which was established by the publisher Walter Annenberg, a prominent Republican whose widow, Leonore, is a contributor to the McCain campaign."" |
Ha!
So a McCain donor gives Ayers $50 million dollars, and they are bitching about Obama?
Quote : | "Losing sides say desperate things in desperate times. It was such a long time ago, but republicans predicted the same doom and gloom shit in 1992. Dems did the same in 2000 and 2004.
Just give the losers time to emote, and they will eventually reach the acceptance state.
Whether people are ready to admit it or not, Obama or Mccain won't produce very different results in their presidencies. Our system does not allow drastic change to happen, which is good. " |
The thing is Obama has some extra animosity from certain people by looking black, and if McCain/Palin keep stirring the pot, it could push someone over the tipping point of Obama gets elected.
[Edited on October 12, 2008 at 12:31 PM. Reason : ]10/12/2008 12:21:18 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The fact is anybody half as articulate as Obama with a D beside their name could've stepped up and spouted the same shit after 8 years of George Bush and came out a saint to you guys." |
True; but this same logic you could argue that if Edison did not invent the light bulb than someone else would have. Thus Edison is not any better than any other scientist
Quote : | "If anything Mccain has been the toughest republican on Bush, anti-energy bill, anti-tax cuts. But of course since he supports the war he's Bush's evil twin to you guys." |
This is true but McCain's election campaigning has shown anything but....
Sarah Palin, the constant pandering to the moonbat right-wing, and spending more time bashing Obama than explaining his platform. Last June I was diehard set on McCain; I have since reconsidered.10/12/2008 12:35:38 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So a McCain donor gives Ayers $50 million dollars, and they are bitching about Obama?" |
Not surprising. I'm sure Ayers can be connected to just about anyone in washington a by less than a few degrees of seperation. That's a big reason why this is a non-issue for Obama.10/12/2008 12:46:32 PM |