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3/26/2008 1:10:45 PM

Damn, that sucks we have to play back to back games twice.

3/26/2008 1:14:53 PM

Thank god, we needed someone to turn the page.

3/26/2008 1:15:56 PM

Larose could be available this weekend. Eaves day-to-day, Whitney next week.

3/26/2008 1:24:21 PM

Back-to-back games twice, with Tampa Bay being the 2nd game both times. Good that we have a relatively easy game as the 2nd, but I'd really rather have TB first both times and get those wins out of the way (cocky/confident thinking i know, but what's the point of speculation if you're not going to be arrogant).


Any 3 wins will give us 94 points. Five wins by the Caps give them 94, and we own the tiebreakers. So essentially, any 3 wins clinches the division title. 3 wins plus 1 more point clinches the outright title. Any losses by the Caps make it that much easier. (Any 3 wins also gives us 20 after the all-star break.) Our record vs Washington this season is 4-2-1 (SO loss) (one game remaining), total score 21-16 in favor of the Canes, 1-2 in Washington (one game remaining), 3-0-1 in Raleigh (SO loss).

Any 2 wins gives us the clinch over Florida. 1 and a half wins give us the tie. Our record vs Florida this season is 5-2 (one win in SO) (one game remaining), total score 22-20 in favor of the Canes, 2-2 in Florida (one win in SO), 3-0 in Raleigh (one game remaining).

3/26/2008 2:14:09 PM

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"I'd really rather have TB first both times"

No way. I'd rather the 1st game be against Washington.

3/26/2008 2:26:06 PM

Technically Washington could still end up with the tiebreaker. From a common sense perspective though you're right.

3/26/2008 2:26:48 PM

^^^ Maybe this is nitpicking, but I far prefer just using the magic number to wading through all that stuff.

3/26/2008 3:05:32 PM

^ Sure, I kinda agree, but the magic number is a little bit ... disconnected (?) from the actual results. It does take all the results from both teams into account, but it's cleaner to say that 3 games clinches the title and that's that. But then you can wander off on a tangent really easily (like I did) and start talking about what if the other team loses, etc, in which case the magic number comes in as the easier solution.

And really, most of the shit that I posted is worthless (home and away records) considering the tie-breaking procedures:

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"1 - The team with the greater number of wins 2 - The team with the higher number of points in games between the tied teams Note: If there are more than two teams tied, and one or more of the teams has a greater number of games against the tied teams than the other tied teams, the first game played in the city that has the extra game is not counted. When more than two teams are tied, the percentage of points earned in games with each other determines the seed (odd game not counted). 3 - The team with the greater positive differential between goals scored and goals scored against"

So, to expand on ^^'s point:
Say that Washington wins our next matchup in regulation and the two teams end up tied in the standings with the following playing out: Caps get 5 wins; Canes get 1 win and 4 OTLs. Final standings would be: Canes 42-30-10 (94 pts); Caps 43-31-8 (94 pts).
Tiebreak 1:
Canes wins = 42
Caps wins = 43
Caps win the tiebreak.
(This situation is also possible if {2} Canes get [0 wins, 1 loss, 4 OTLs] (41-31-10 = 92) and Caps get [4 wins, 1 loss] (42-32-8 = 92) or if {3} Canes get [0 wins, 0 losses, 5 OTLs] (41-30-11 = 93) and Caps get [4 wins, 1 OTL] (42-31-9 = 93)) (wow that wasn't worth it at all....)


As far as I can tell, those are the only possible situations that we can tie Washington in the standings but lose the tiebreak. It's possible for Washington to beat us outright in the standings, and of course it's possible for us to beat them outright. All other ties would give us the tiebreak. If they beat us in the next head-to-head matchup and we finish tied in the standings and tied with the same # of wins, we would go to tiebreak #2:
Canes vs Washington = 4-3-1 = 9 points
Washington vs Canes = 4-4 = 8 points
Canes win. The Canes cannot lose this tiebreaker no matter what if it comes to it.



So, having said all that, the Magic Number is 7 for outright victory.



[Edited on March 26, 2008 at 5:00 PM. Reason : ]

3/26/2008 4:53:26 PM

Shoulder surgery for Eaves. Likely out 2-4 weeks.

LaRose in the lineup tomorrow.

3/27/2008 1:01:04 PM

wtf, how did that happen

why did they decide to do it now? he was just out for the flu before but now all the sudden started having problems with it again or something?


i'm gonna kill myself if we don't win both friday & saturday

that is, if washington wins

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"I'd like to say that I enjoy fun hockey, and Washington/Florida do not play fun hockey, therefore I do not like them."

aha i knew you would jump in to give that link

[Edited on March 27, 2008 at 3:05 PM. Reason : ]

3/27/2008 2:53:49 PM

fuckin' Eaves!! GET HEALTHY!!

3/27/2008 3:14:48 PM

I don't know if it is me being unrealistic... but would the Canes be the clear best team in the show if they were 100% healthy?

3/27/2008 3:21:21 PM

no

3/27/2008 3:22:53 PM

I wouldn't say they'd be the best team, but it'd be a great argument with that absurd amount of forward talent.

3/27/2008 3:23:40 PM

agreed. I suppose we do need possibly two more d-men. But our top three lines rival any team, including the Burgh

3/27/2008 3:28:58 PM

So... we are going to be hanging out in the lot again before the Panthers game on 4/4. I am going to bring a grill and some food. Anyone is welcome to join us, of course. Same place as last time, if anyone needs directions or info, just PM me. More than likely me and Sweden will be out there getting things started around 1 or 2, I know its early but its the only chance we have left to send Olli golfing with a grimace.

we will be working on this:

[Edited on March 27, 2008 at 5:44 PM. Reason : holla]

3/27/2008 5:40:35 PM

GO LIGHTNING!

3/27/2008 6:39:53 PM

Sweden = SAMSOWNAGE

3/27/2008 7:04:05 PM

aha oh, i shoulda figured that out

3/27/2008 7:06:28 PM

w00t

3/27/2008 7:11:54 PM

I'm Kaberlay if that isn't too obvious

3/27/2008 7:18:20 PM

yeah i knew that

3/27/2008 7:20:39 PM

lightning pulled an nc state

3/27/2008 9:06:40 PM

fucking asshats.

i just want home advantage

and not to play them in the playoffs

3/27/2008 9:12:32 PM

Freakin bolts. Now it looks like that Carolina/Caps game on April Fools Day will be for the division.

What's the tiebreaker if we tie with Boston or Philly?

[Edited on March 27, 2008 at 9:13 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2008 9:12:45 PM

1. Wins
2. Points earned head to head (better record)
3. Greater difference between GF & GA


This just in: I'll be going into cardiac arrest sometime between 7:07 and 10:00 next Tuesday

[Edited on March 27, 2008 at 9:30 PM. Reason : ]

3/27/2008 9:15:59 PM

its not that bad yet. we just have to take care of business against the teams we should beat. We ought to be able to handle Tampa and Atlanta at home, those should be the easiest 4 points. If we get those, that forces Washington to win 3 of their last 4 to tie us, where we would have the tiebreak.

[Edited on March 27, 2008 at 9:44 PM. Reason : s]

3/27/2008 9:43:58 PM

well based on the record anyway, Florida shouldn't be a problem either.. and it looks like their playoff push again fails unless they have a miracle or something, so hopefully that will be an easier win

even more important is that they realize they aren't out of it yet and play like their lives depend on it saturday night

3/27/2008 9:47:18 PM

hopefully Fla will beat washington on saturday and make our task that much easier.

3/28/2008 8:08:29 AM

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"o... we are going to be hanging out in the lot again before the Panthers game on 4/4. I am going to bring a grill and some food. Anyone is welcome to join us, of course. Same place as last time, if anyone needs directions or info, just PM me. More than likely me and Sweden will be out there getting things started around 1 or 2, I know its early but its the only chance we have left to send Olli golfing with a grimace."

What time?

3/28/2008 8:14:19 AM

probably from 1 or 2pm until gametime.

3/28/2008 8:52:36 AM

Wait, isn't that a Friday game?

3/28/2008 9:37:55 AM

yes

3/28/2008 9:42:57 AM

Oh, I'll be at work then..

3/28/2008 11:20:09 AM

I'll be enjoying tonights game from a luxury box!



oooooooooooooooooh, luxury.

3/28/2008 12:37:25 PM

Sweet, I'll be in Sec. 125 Row E.

3/28/2008 1:10:52 PM

110, last row

3/28/2008 2:26:10 PM

3/28/2008 3:53:29 PM

i'm feelin' a BEAP BEAP for 59 tonight

3/28/2008 4:13:36 PM

3/28/2008 6:12:55 PM

man i got a serious man crush on eric staal and its about to reach a philip rivers proportion. lol.

3/28/2008 6:12:56 PM

JEFF "I ONLY PLAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON AND THE END" HAMILTON

3/28/2008 6:20:01 PM

bwahahaha. seriously one of the bitchiest fights ive ever seen. looked like they were doing the tango out there!

3/28/2008 6:35:56 PM

Nice suit Willy

3/28/2008 7:04:49 PM

i missed it

3/28/2008 7:08:40 PM

Much penalties tonight??

3/28/2008 7:14:38 PM

hahaha, standing room only in the box

3/28/2008 7:15:55 PM

that is fucking awesome

3/28/2008 7:16:03 PM

hahahaha

3/28/2008 7:16:08 PM