Roster released for Aug 10 friend vs Mexico.

http://www.ussoccer.com/News/Mens-National-Team/2011/08/Klinsmann-Calls-In-22-Players-to-Face-Mexico-on-Aug-10-in-Philadelphia.aspx

Quote :

"GOALKEEPERS (2): Bill Hamid (D.C.United), Tim Howard (Everton) DEFENDERS (8): Carlos Bocanegra (Saint-Etienne), Edgar Castillo (Club America), Timmy Chandler (FC Nürnberg), Steve Cherundolo (Hannover 96), Clarence Goodson (Brondby), Michael Orozco Fiscal (San Luis), Heath Pearce (Chivas USA), Tim Ream (New York Red Bulls) MIDFIELDERS (7): Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Michael Bradley (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Ricardo Clark (Eintracht Frankfurt), Maurice Edu (Rangers), Jermaine Jones (Schalke 04), Brek Shea (FC Dallas), José Torres (Pachuca) FORWARDS (5): Freddy Adu (Benfica), Juan Agudelo (New York Red Bulls), DaMarcus Beasley (Puebla), Edson Buddle (FC Ingolstadt), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy) "

No Dempsey, Holden, Jozy, Gooch, Spector, or Hahnemann. Holden is in training but probably still not match fit yet. Looks like Fulham wants Dempsey in London to train. Spector is without a club for the moment last I checked (relesaed from WHU after relegation). Jozy just swapped clubs, probably tied up in training too. Hahnemann also without a club (and getting old).

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 1:36 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2011 1:35:25 PM

Spector signed with Birmingham

Good to see Adu, Chandler, Torres, and Shea.

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 1:50 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2011 1:49:09 PM

DaMarcus Beasley is back? Damn.

8/4/2011 7:19:05 PM

No Bornstein? WTF! Lol @ Beckerman.

8/4/2011 8:09:13 PM

http://soccerreform.us/blog/


So, I stumbled upon this. I'm sure it's previously been posted, but here it is nonetheless. This guy pretty much goes out of his way to show that the slow growth model of the MLS is stunting the growth of US soccer, and he even has a few entries about how relegation/promotion could be implemented in the MLS (http://soccerreform.us/blog/?cat=4). It's also got some pretty scathing articles about Sunil Gulati (he claims that the US lost the World Cup bid because we refuse to promote relegation/promotion and because the MLS plays on international FIFA dates -- well, that and bribery). A pretty interesting blog read if you're interested.




And why does Ricardo Clark keep getting called up?

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 8:34 PM. Reason : ]

8/4/2011 8:11:05 PM

Chandler is the kid from Germany right? I'm actually interested to see him get some real action. Lets face it, the back four has been flat awful... couldn't hurt.

Quote :

"Michael Orozco Fiscal"

um, who?

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 8:19 PM. Reason : i do a pretty decent job at following the usmnt but ive never heard of this guy!]

8/4/2011 8:18:27 PM

Quote :

" No Bornstein? WTF! Lol @ Beckerman."

Same thought here. Why wouldn't he call him up since he is the best player ever?

8/4/2011 8:26:34 PM

That guy is a lunatic (soccerreform dude) - he thinks everything is some massive conspiracy designed to keep US Soccer down. He has some decent ideas about pro/rel but kills it with all his tinfoil bullshit

^^ Orozco played in the Olympics, got a 3rd minute red card in our final game against Nigeria and hasn't really been a factor since. I don't know much about him either, to be honest.

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 8:34 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2011 8:31:56 PM

Yeah, he's in the deep end, but I think he brings up some interesting points. One being that there were more US players playing in Europe in the mid '90s than today (I'm guessing he's telling the truth here, I can't verify that). Or that viewership of the EPL, Champions League, International Friendlies and tournaments have all skyrocketed, but yet the MLS has been stagnant (how many of us here regularly/passionately follow the MLS -- I know I don't). The main point I got from some of the entries I've read is that the MLS is too afraid to keep up with the growing popularity of the sport (concerning promotion/relegation, insistence on the NCAA/draft model, and independent club ownership), and the men's national team is struggling (or rather, not improving) as a result, which I think is a pretty fair assessment, or at the very least, worthy of discussion.

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 9:06 PM. Reason : ]

8/4/2011 8:48:14 PM

Red Bull Arena is directly out the window of my office. I have yet to go to a game. I want to, but still, there is clearly no urgency.

8/4/2011 9:34:40 PM

Quote :

"Yeah, he's in the deep end, but I think he brings up some interesting points. One being that there were more US players playing in Europe in the mid '90s than today (I'm guessing he's telling the truth here, I can't verify that). Or that viewership of the EPL, Champions League, International Friendlies and tournaments have all skyrocketed, but yet the MLS has been stagnant (how many of us here regularly/passionately follow the MLS -- I know I don't). The main point I got from some of the entries I've read is that the MLS is too afraid to keep up with the growing popularity of the sport (concerning promotion/relegation, insistence on the NCAA/draft model, and independent club ownership), and the men's national team is struggling (or rather, not improving) as a result, which I think is a pretty fair assessment, or at the very least, worthy of discussion."

That is because tv has began to show more of the games from the top leagues around the World while MLS still doesn't have any major contract. Yeah I know, they get 1 game a week on ESPN2 and FSC. That isn't much. If you want to watch anymore then you have to buy some sort of PPV pack. Also, the talent level isn't as high and people want to watch the best leagues in the World. No one in America seems overly excited about club soccer in Australia, Scotland, Egypt, Argentina, etc either.

As for the fearing to keep up, I don't buy that. They added the DP rule and teams can now have 3 DPs. There is only so much they can do because no matter what they do, people are still going to watch the Big 4 in Europe over all other leagues in the world. The NASL used the European system of start clubs wherever you want and spend as much as you want. Then the league went bankrupt. The NASL is a great example of how to not run a soccer league in the USA.

8/4/2011 10:30:00 PM

Bradley interviewing for the Egypt job. That'll be weird.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2011/08/08/bob-bradley-interview-be-egypt-manager

8/8/2011 9:00:57 AM

bttt for tonight

8/10/2011 5:58:57 PM

Quote :

"When then lineups are posted later this evening, fans will notice a distinct pattern to the jersey numbers. Going back to an historical tradition, Jurgen Klinsmann will assign the numbers 1-11 to the starters each game, and 12-18 for the reserves. Numbers will be only thing printed on the jersey, which means no names on the back. One of the main goals is to make sure that everyone is focused on the most important thing on the uniform - the crest representing the United States."

8/10/2011 7:10:14 PM

Will he also be taking away helmet stickers?

also, this little league game better hurry up. ain't tryin' to miss this game so that espn can show a bunch of 8 year olds playing stick-ball.

[Edited on August 10, 2011 at 8:48 PM. Reason : ]

8/10/2011 8:45:47 PM

Not sure if this was posted somewhere earlier, but Tab Ramos is an assistant for the game.

8/10/2011 8:57:02 PM

damn, no Adu tonight

8/10/2011 9:02:22 PM

preempt this little league shit already

8/10/2011 9:02:52 PM

ESPN will not do that but the game is on Univision so listen to it in Mexican Spanish for a while.

8/10/2011 9:03:36 PM

It's on ESPNEWS right now

8/10/2011 9:03:38 PM

espn3

8/10/2011 9:04:05 PM

nuts to that. i'll just watch the game on univision.

8/10/2011 9:07:16 PM

Damn, that is a lot of quality not there tonight.

Holden, Dempsey, Edu, Altidore...

[Edited on August 10, 2011 at 9:07 PM. Reason : lol at the mexican anthem]

8/10/2011 9:07:20 PM

^ Don't forget Bornstein

8/10/2011 9:10:34 PM

It's good to hear that we're calling up young guys and getting them caps in friendlies. We need to be planning for the 2014 WC right now and there is going to be a fair amount of turnover.

8/10/2011 9:24:27 PM

If Bob Bradley gets the Egypt job, would he be the first American to coach a foreign national team?

8/10/2011 9:26:19 PM

lol, what in the fuck was that?

8/10/2011 9:31:00 PM

no Steve Sampson coached Costa Rica

8/10/2011 9:31:02 PM

Wow, that was an amazing score!

[Edited on August 10, 2011 at 9:33 PM. Reason : It's also on Univision ]

8/10/2011 9:32:12 PM

Goddammit. I cannot fucking standing John Harkes as an announcer. He's such a homer, it's unbearable. Ian Dark is alright, though

[Edited on August 10, 2011 at 9:45 PM. Reason : ]

8/10/2011 9:43:41 PM

Jesus Christ, can we import some defenders from somewhere?

8/10/2011 9:46:05 PM

And some midfielders and strikers.

8/10/2011 9:52:03 PM

can we pleeeeeassse play Torres in his natural position? his touch/vision is hands down the best of any central mid in our pool

8/10/2011 9:53:37 PM

watch any other American sport and this is a joke if you think this represents the highest level of American athlete. We have two players that belong on this stage. We basically need some sort of title 6 type of thing to get high school and college soccer going nationwide for men like it is for women.

8/10/2011 9:57:52 PM

go away

Halftime thoughts:

Castillo is Bornstein 2.0
Jones looks like he doesn't give a fuck
Orozco doesn't look that bad
Buddle is Buddle
Beckerman is Beckerman

[Edited on August 10, 2011 at 10:02 PM. Reason : .]

8/10/2011 10:00:11 PM

You think its fine that major colleges and universities don't have soccer programs?

Pretty much no acess to mens soccer in the south where most of the athletes come from

[Edited on August 10, 2011 at 10:10 PM. Reason : 0 big12 teams 2 sec teams. Just crazy. ]

8/10/2011 10:02:05 PM

Stop it with your fucking stupid posts in these threads about comparing the USMNT to other sports. Just stop...

* Jones was non-existent; Holden is going to put him on the bench
* I barely even noticed Landon was out there
* Castillo looked... awful.
* I didn't hate what Beckerman did and thought Orozco Fiscal was decent

[Edited on August 10, 2011 at 10:13 PM. Reason : beckerman not bradley]

8/10/2011 10:05:59 PM

is it any more exciting on Univision?

8/10/2011 10:07:10 PM

Really, a 4-5-1? We need a second forward up there. Great tactics so far.

8/10/2011 10:07:35 PM

1 striker never makes sense in my mind

8/10/2011 10:12:24 PM

We've gotta play to our stregths and I like the new coach BTW. Holding the ball is our best shot. Control possession and limit the other teams shots. We are getting blasted in this game and only down 1 because of it.

[Edited on August 10, 2011 at 10:15 PM. Reason : yeah its tough when you are down but if you make the other team overplay 1 striker is fine]

8/10/2011 10:14:42 PM

Take Jones/Buddle off for Agudelo/Brek Shea, slide Torres in the middle...GOLD

-------Agudelo--------
Shea----------Donovan
----Bradley--Torres----
------Beckerman------

bet Dolo comes off though


what the hell was that interview? he sounded happy as fuck

[Edited on August 10, 2011 at 10:18 PM. Reason : .]

8/10/2011 10:16:23 PM

basically the same thing i said

8/10/2011 10:21:17 PM

I hate you

8/10/2011 10:22:35 PM

dammit.

8/10/2011 10:28:55 PM

ah yeah brah pitted so pitted

8/10/2011 10:46:46 PM

landon should've just played that pass to the wrong foot imo.

8/10/2011 10:47:49 PM

Also should have drawn a penalty.

8/10/2011 10:50:19 PM

That is two the Rasta Ref has missed in the box

8/10/2011 10:50:53 PM

somebody just flicked a switch bc we look awesome now

8/10/2011 10:50:58 PM