anyone know if there's a root method out for the OTA Froyo update for the Evo? i want to at least get tethering up if i can't completely do a new ROM install...

8/7/2010 11:10:42 AM

Quote :

"^^reason?"

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In short, Motorola.

Camera takes shit pictures, I think I have one picture that isn't super grainy, even videos look horrible. The iPhone4's 5mp camera takes way better pictures, even my iPhone 3g takes better pictures most of the time.

It's the most laggy 1ghz phone on the planet, it runs like shit. Scrolling is horrendous, using the app drawer is nearly impossible unless you scroll it very slowly in small increments and even then half the time some random app opens that you were just trying to scroll past. When I turned the phone on for the first time I was surprised how shitty the unlock animation lagged. Even just scrolling homescreens wasn't smooth without ever doing anything to the phone. Motorola's ability to take a good thing and fuck it up with their own software continues to amaze me.

The locked bootloader. I'm not sure anyone is even bothering working on breaking the bootloader anymore. I know Birdman was going to start a project and then scrapped it. One of the main reasons I wanted an android phone was the ability to load custom ROMs.

Delayed Froyo update. I was hoping the DX would get 2.2 before my 30 days was up but it's definitely not going to happen since it just got pushed back to September and there's speculation it might get delayed again since the Droid1's update got delayed indefinitely because of a problem with Flash. The phone should have shipped with 2.2 in the first place.

I just don't want to be stuck with a phone for 2 years that might not ever get custom ROMs, runs like shit and doesn't live up to my expectations. I'd rather just wait for something else. I won't ever be buying another Motorola phone.

8/7/2010 5:19:35 PM

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"Camera takes shit pictures"

all mine have turned out alright

Quote :

"using the app drawer is nearly impossible unless you scroll it very slowly in small increments and even then half the time some random app opens that you were just trying to scroll past."

that has never happened to me

Quote :

"Even just scrolling homescreens wasn't smooth without ever doing anything to the phone. "

i haven't really encountered this problem either

my only problem so far is that the call quality sounds a bit tinny. sometimes i can get around it by holding it to my ear a certain way or by turning the call volume down, but then it's not really loud enough. anyone else have this problem?

8/7/2010 8:39:22 PM

You really shouldn't be experiencing any lag on the phone after its initial setup and sync.

People like to hate on MotoBlur, but the version on the DroidX is rather polished and runs mostly in the background.

On buggy as hell 1.5 using the backflip and its 512MHz processor I didn't experience much lag on the homescreen. Only things that really lagged on it were Swype, the stock text messaging app when I had a ton of texts in it, and then the occasional app lag.

[Edited on August 7, 2010 at 10:55 PM. Reason : asdfg]

8/7/2010 10:52:32 PM

I'm now in the unenviable position of having a phone that appears to have stopped working, but the phones I want are all out of stock.

FML

8/8/2010 11:53:55 AM

i ordered w/ Verizon on the phone last Saturday and they said it would ship by the 11th of August

i got my phone in the mail this past Wednesday..... so if you order one now it won't actually take as long as they predict

8/8/2010 12:00:33 PM

whoops. poor evo

http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g/27573-bicycles-gates-evo.html

8/8/2010 12:48:45 PM

The leaked Verizon 2010-2012 schedule looks pretty amazing (for Android and LTE).l

8/9/2010 1:01:06 PM

Link to this...?

8/9/2010 1:02:22 PM

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/08/09/exclusive-verizon-wireless-20102011-roadmap/

8/9/2010 1:56:27 PM

http://gizmodo.com/5607250/leaked-shots-of-verizon-and-htcs-12-ghz-android-world-phone

I will have this phone.

8/9/2010 2:53:23 PM

So apparently the guys at Alldroid.org bought a developer DroidX complete with 2.2 and a different bootloader. Maybe it'll get custom roms yet...

8/9/2010 4:31:13 PM

^^wish it didn't have the qwerty

8/9/2010 6:34:23 PM

Qwerty is a huge selling point for business oriented consumers (ie, Blackberry replacements) - i rarely use mine on my Droid, but can imagine if you write long paragraphs in emails, you may want something more substantial than the touchscreen

8/9/2010 7:11:36 PM

swype is freakin amazing so far

8/9/2010 7:13:09 PM

i tried swype, and i dont mean tried it and immediately discarded it. i tried it for a whole two months or so and i am so glad to be back to the stock layout. the buttons were either smaller or too close together and the layout just did not work for my brain i guess.

8/9/2010 8:50:32 PM

yea i'm the exact opposite, i've been using it for months like you, but now whenever i'm forced to use a non-swype enabled phone i get so freakin frustrated at how slow it takes to type some words, it's like going back to the stone ages.

8/9/2010 9:16:12 PM

http://www.blindtype.com/

WTB

8/9/2010 9:24:03 PM

on that note, a good auto-correct seems to be lacking on the android platform...granted i use swype most of the time, but even when i change to the stock keyboard it seems they focus on providing suggestions instead of auto-correcting the crap you enter.

am i missing something?

8/9/2010 9:45:58 PM

nah, that's pretty much it. it thinks it knows what you meant to type, so it offers a suggestion

I think they're banking on you just going with that suggestion, hitting spacebar to accept, and moving on to the next word.

for me, it works 60% of the time for a new phone... then as it gradually adds words to it's database, that percentage increases.

8/9/2010 9:53:20 PM

^^^ lol thats basically what my texts looked like with swype, 1 or 2 letters were always wrong but you could tell what i meant

[Edited on August 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM. Reason : not skype, swype!]

8/9/2010 9:55:04 PM

the auto-correct keyboard on htc phones works just fine. i watched the blindtype video and its not that impressive, i like the autocorrect on my phone better.

personally i'm not a fan of swype either. i used it for awhile but am still faster with a regular keyboard because with swype i always had to look at the keyboard and plan the motion i was going to make for each word. i was hoping that would go away but i never got any faster even after more than a month of use. with a regular keyboard i can just type without thinking and with the htc keyboard as long as i get close its going to pick the word i want.

8/10/2010 12:23:25 AM

Droid 2 is official. Pre-orders start tomorrow and phone goes on sale Thursday.

http://news.vzw.com/news/2010/08/pr2010-08-09c.html

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"Verizon Wireless, the company with the nation’s largest and most reliable wireless 3G network, and Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT), a pioneer in the mobile industry, today announced that DROID™ 2 by Motorola will be available for pre-sale on August 11. Hitting all the right keys, DROID 2 is a feature-packed device that helps manage work and social life with an enhanced QWERTY keyboard, ultra high-speed Web browsing, 3G Mobile HotSpot capabilities, full push corporate e-mail, intuitive social messaging and Adobe® Flash® Player 10.1 for access to the full web – all built on Android 2.2. R2-D2 DROID 2 In honor of the iconic Astromech Droid from the Star Wars™ Saga, Verizon Wireless will offer a limited-edition R2-D2 version of the DROID 2, available only online in September. The special version of the phone will feature exclusive Star Wars content and external hardware designed to look like the trusty Droid from the film saga. Visitors to the upcoming Star Wars Celebration V in Orlando, Fla., can see a preview of the limited edition phone and sign up to receive alerts when the phone is ready for sale. Pricing and Availability DROID 2 by Motorola will be available at http://www.verizonwireless.com on August 11, and it will be in Verizon Wireless Communications Stores beginning August 12 for $199.99 after a $100 mail-in rebate with a new two-year customer agreement. Customers will receive the rebate in the form of a debit card; upon receipt, customers may use the card as cash anywhere debit cards are accepted. In addition to subscribing to a Nationwide Talk plan or a Nationwide Talk & Text plan, customers will also need to subscribe to an Email and Web for Smartphone plan. Nationwide Talk plans begin at $39.99 monthly access. Email and Web for Smartphone plans start at $29.99 for unlimited monthly access. Customers can add the optional 3G Mobile HotSpot service to their DROID 2 smartphones for $20 per month. The 3G Mobile HotSpot allows customers to turn their phones into a wireless modem for up to five compatible Wi-Fi® devices. In addition, current Verizon Wireless customers who have contracts ending by December 31, 2010, can upgrade to any smartphone, including DROID 2, without penalty."

8/10/2010 10:11:51 AM

After responding to azaka's post the other day i've noticed a lot of the same problems with my droid x. Its been laggy as hell browsing through the home screens and app drawer, and even text entry has been shitty. and earlier today the screen responding so I had to pull the battery and reboot. I dunno if I could take it to verizon and have it replaced or what, but its really starting to piss me off after running so smoothly for a few weeks

8/10/2010 3:34:30 PM

Dell Streak goes on sale later this week (8/12 for pre-sale, 8/13 for gen pub.)

http://en.community.dell.com/dell-blogs/Direct2Dell/b/direct2dell/archive/2010/08/10/official-dell-streak-pricing-carrier-and-order-details-for-us-customers.aspx

8/10/2010 3:58:43 PM

how do i get swype on my eris

8/10/2010 4:07:11 PM

^^

Quote :

"One thing to reiterate is that we will ship Streak to customers in the US with Android 1.6. We will offer an over-the-air upgrade to Android 2.2 later this year"

why would anyone want a 1.6 device when there are 2.2 devices already out there... at least wait until 2.2

8/10/2010 4:12:35 PM

any decent media players that actually support hardware acceleration? doubletwist and the stock media player suck shit. rockplayer is pretty GD awesome as far as playback is concerned, but i just hate the program itself.

8/10/2010 4:19:24 PM

i use RockPlayer, but here's another, not sure if it's been updated to support 2.2 or not:

yxflash

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"Features Supports mpg, avi, mp4, flv, mkv and wmv/asf files Mpeg1/2/4, H264 BP, Divx/Xvid, FLV1 and WMV7/8/9 Mp3, AAC, WMA, AC3 and PCM Network Streaming (http, ftp, mms ...) Armv7 Neon Accelaration and Up to 720p DivX Playback for Cortex-A8 Based Devices."

http://www.mobilesoft.kr/android.html

RockPlayer

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"This mobile application supports two playback modes: Normal Mode and System Mode. In Normal Mode, RockPlayer will use the playback engine built inside the player, which supports almost all video formats with good enough performance. System Mode means RockPlayer will invoke the playback engine built-in Android system, which support very limit formats but may take advantage of hardware acceleration, which means saving battery."

[Edited on August 10, 2010 at 4:40 PM. Reason : .]

8/10/2010 4:35:16 PM

BDubLS1 UK users love it and its been skinned really nice. 2.2 is coming soon anyway.

8/10/2010 5:09:53 PM

CorePlayer will hopefully be out soon and will play 720p x264 mkv's without skipping

8/10/2010 5:27:02 PM

Quote :

"Qwerty is a huge selling point for business oriented consumers (ie, Blackberry replacements) - [...] imagine if you write long paragraphs in emails, you may want something more substantial than the touchscreen"

8/10/2010 5:41:45 PM

Quote :

"CorePlayer will hopefully be out soon and will play 720p x264 mkv's without skipping "

i don't know a phone that displays 720p

8/10/2010 5:58:30 PM

Swype is nice but it still takes up half the screen. I'd much rather add a little size to it and have the option of a physical keyboard.

8/10/2010 6:01:36 PM

you other Swypers, do you use it horizontally or vertically?

i find it a lot easier vertically so you can still see the message screen above it, instead of just the typing cell that you are putting text into at the time

also, there's less distance to have to move your finger between letters

[Edited on August 10, 2010 at 9:03 PM. Reason : ]

8/10/2010 9:03:16 PM

my main problem with swype is that it works for shit when there's more friction between your thumbs and fingers and the screen.

8/10/2010 9:09:24 PM

i just got this silicone case online for like $4 with shipping and the silicone actually makes my finger rub across the screen smoother if i rub it first

8/10/2010 9:27:29 PM

Ordered my DroidX on Monday. Wondering if i made the right choice instead of opting for the Droid 2 with the keyboard

8/11/2010 8:13:34 AM

eh. Having used a Droid on multiple occasions, I had no desire to go back to a physical keyboard. I know they "improved" they keyboard on the Droid 2 but the few times I used a Droid X before ordering, the touch screen was super easy to use via swype or normal tap-typing. We'll see how it is when I am using it as my own phone but I only expect it to be even more fluid.

[Edited on August 11, 2010 at 8:29 AM. Reason : ]

8/11/2010 8:28:32 AM

swype doesn't seem any faster than just tapping the qwerty touchscreen

i'll have to give it a try

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCWwuIXxBuI

8/11/2010 8:41:15 AM

its not, having to think about what shape to use keeps it from being faster.

8/11/2010 10:33:28 AM

If you don't find Swype much, much faster, you are doing it wrong. You don't have to remember shapes. If you already know QWERTY, you drag your finger to where you know it needs to be for the next letter. It's easy as hell.

8/11/2010 10:38:31 AM

i can type faster, with swype i had to look at the keyboard because with my finger moving all around i can't know for sure where it is. also i have to confirm and choose a word much more often than with the htc keyboard. after years of using phones with a qwery keyboard my thumbs have the muscle memory similar to how your fingers know where everything is on a keyboard. swype messes that up, if there was a 2 thumb swyping method it might be faster, but the constant looking and confirming with one finger slows it down.

i know its an iphone but i type with two thumbs like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bet1H1hC4VY&feature=related


[Edited on August 11, 2010 at 10:49 AM. Reason : .]

8/11/2010 10:46:14 AM

Quote :

"If you don't find Swype much, much faster, you are doing it wrong. You don't have to remember shapes. If you already know QWERTY, you drag your finger to where you know it needs to be for the next letter. It's easy as hell."

EXACTLY. I can use Swype without looking at the screen until I hit send (then I can proofread). It is incredibly faster if you learn how to use it.

I also prefer Swype with the vertical orientation.

8/11/2010 11:00:29 AM

^^you're doing it wrong.

with Sywpe you just keep swyping and it will keep spitting it out, if there's a question on a word and you hit space it will put the first word in and once you're done with the message you go back and correct. check out the World Record, it's clearly faster, you just need to break your creature of habit waiting for autocorrect to pop-up.

[Edited on August 11, 2010 at 11:07 AM. Reason : ,]

8/11/2010 11:07:17 AM

it didn't get the right word enough to warrant not waiting for auto correct. i mean i tried it for a few months, then the beta stopped working and i went back to the htc keyboard and realized how much faster i am. and with a physical keyboard it would be no contest at all.

8/11/2010 11:19:18 AM

If you get the hang of swype, there's nothing currently available that is faster.

For anyone with a captivate
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-captivate-overclocked-12-ghz-16-ghz-come-soon

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"Samsung Captivate is overclocked to 1.2 GHz; 1.6 GHz to come soon? Posted on Wednesday, Aug 11, 2010 by Sean Brunett The AT&T Captivate (read our review) has been overclocked to 1.2 GHz, which makes the Hummingbird processor faster than it is out of the box, which is already pretty quick. The modder who successfully did this said that the processor is actually capable of a stable 1.6 GHz, so be on the lookout for that soon. If you have a Captivate and are interested in overclocking, click here."

8/11/2010 12:35:02 PM

pretty bad ass minimalist setup:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7575043&postcount=1183


Rom: LeeDrOiD Mod V1.8
Home: LauncherPro 0.7.4
Theme: Minimal Matte Grey (thx UltraLinx)
Dock: Here (credit: UltraLinx)
Time Widget: Tajm
Battery Percentage Widget: BattStatt
AudioManager Skin: Minimal Transparant Black
Controls Widget: Extended Controls
Calendar Widget: Smooth Calendar, included in Minimal Matte Theme

8/11/2010 2:10:01 PM

http://gizmodo.com/5609444/iphones-users-have-twice-as-much-sex-as-android-users-plus-which-camera-makes-you-sexiest

burrrrnnnn. sorry i just had to post it in here.

8/11/2010 2:12:00 PM

# OF SEX PARTNERS /= MORE SEX
# OF SEX PARTNERS = PROMISCUOUS

LMAO!

8/11/2010 2:15:36 PM