Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
^ yeah just read that on SFN
Quote : | "I've heard a lot of people discussing and complaining about the difference between the punishments of (Georgia's) AJ Green and (Alabama's) Dareus.
In short, Green got 4 games for 'selling a jersey' (code for accepting money) from an agent for $1,000. Dareus got just 2 games for accepting about $1,800 worth of benefits in the form of a trip to one of the SouthBeach parties that Austin and the Carolina guys attended.
I have been very disappointed in the lack of analysis and thought into what is really going on here. So...let me help the radio guys and television guys that don't get it.
Dareus cut a deal! Green's violation is cut and dry and easy to punish in light of the NCAA's set schedule of punishments.
Dareus, however, had material information about players and agents and what was happening in this whole Marvin Austin runner ring.
If you go back and look at the history of this whole thing, Dareus has been the most open and forthcoming from the very start. He & Alabama have played this thing perfectly, and I'm guessing that one can draw a conclusion about the quality of the information he provided by the light punishment he received.
That is not good news for UNC. " |
9/9/2010 9:43:52 AM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
I think they're holding on to the biblical stuff now that the word was out we were expecting yesterday. 9/9/2010 9:46:37 AM |
ZincMachWon All American 888 Posts user info edit post |
After everything that IC reporters have been wrong on so far, I don't know why anyone would pay for IC premium. IC has been flat out wrong or days behind on the stuff they put out on their website. They have no credibility after this. 9/9/2010 9:47:27 AM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
i like that unc is getting F'd, but we should talk about our own team more.
NC STATE vs UCF saturday night. i'm bumping that thread...
who will join me in the quest to VICTOR-EEEEEE!?
i care more about reading NC State updates on our team than hearing the letters U-N-C every 10 seconds.
/rant
[Edited on September 9, 2010 at 9:55 AM. Reason : .] 9/9/2010 9:50:06 AM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
What's sad is that PackPride is more in the know about UNC than IC is. 9/9/2010 9:51:23 AM |
ZincMachWon All American 888 Posts user info edit post |
People give PackPride a lot of shit, but if you filter out the white noise bs, it really isn't a bad forum. ESPECIALLY if you compare it to a lot of other scout/rivals boards. Yeah, it's got the stereotypical old men who don't really get the whole internet thing, but it's also got quite a few really funny and knowledgeable people. 9/9/2010 9:57:28 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Sat next to an older man while getting my oil changed. I could tell he was probably a unc fan. So i asked him If he followed carolina football. He said he did ans he thought it was pretty bad. Seemed to think blake probably eas involved. He then paused for about 2 min. And sure enough "well i guess we just have to wait till basketball season."
He did t seem to want to talk about it anymore. 9/9/2010 10:29:24 AM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks for the hard-hitting update, Scoop 9/9/2010 10:43:28 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i like that unc is getting F'd, but we should talk about our own team more.
NC STATE vs UCF saturday night. i'm bumping that thread...
who will join me in the quest to VICTOR-EEEEEE!?" |
thats what im sayin, the UCF thread is all but desolate compared to this
who gives a fuck about the rivals, well have our week to play them.9/9/2010 11:22:13 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "thats what im sayin, the UCF thread is all but desolate compared to this" |
is that what you're sayin?
why haven't you posted in there yet9/9/2010 11:26:33 AM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
pwnt 9/9/2010 11:30:55 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
i dont normally post i just read through 9/9/2010 11:35:26 AM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
I dont think we hear much of anything until next week. Something may break as far as players/coaches/suspensions leading up to the GT game. 9/9/2010 11:35:48 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "who gives a fuck about the rivals, well have our week to play them." |
You can't honestly believe this. I can't get enough of this stuff and I'm one of the more "focus on us, not UNC" people on these boards. Although I have a very strong dislike for UNC, I would say that it's less than average compared to most State fans. Having said that, here are the reasons why it is so big:
- You said it yourself, they are our rival. They are also THE rival. I don't like Maryland, Duke, Wake, etc...but there is no arguing who our chief rival is and probably always will be. Like it or not, we are also the inferior rival. They own head-to-head records in almost every sport, and definitely in the major ones, by an extremely wide margin. They have more championships and national "prestige."
- It's not a State-perpetuated myth...they DO have a "holier-than-thou" attitude. Their fans do believe that they are a public-Ivy school. So to see this scandal involving illegal recruiting tactics and cheating with tutors makes it even juicier and entertaining.
- This directly affects us. From winning football games to recruiting. They are our chief recruiting rival. They have been KILLING us in recruiting the past couple years, especially in-state recruiting. The possible death blow that might hit them will pay huge dividends for our local recruiting in the foreseeable future. It will also help us in our head-to-head matchups and conference standing in the next few years. Like it or not, UNC was a program on the rise. We've seen how hard it is to build programs in basketball when you have neighbors that are doing so well (UNC and Duke in basketball)...UNC being the premiere program in the state in football definitely hurt us. With them on their way down, it can only help us in our journey upward.
We're a mediocre team playing a mediocre non-conference opponent this Saturday. I'm actually really excited about the game because it won't be some cream-puff like Western Carolina. That being said, what is there to talk about right now?? We don't have any big things going on before the game. No big injury updates or crazy line-up changes.
So that, sir, is why this thread is THAT much more popular than our current State/UCF thread right now. Common sense if you ask me (also, this thread is now two months long...where the other one isn't even a week long).9/9/2010 11:35:52 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
i just hope our team is sitting around in the locker room glued to the tv waiting on unc's program to fail
i dont buy what youre sellin, recruits be damned its all about the coaching.
i dont give a flippin fuck how many stars are next to some high school kids name
[Edited on September 9, 2010 at 11:41 AM. Reason : c] 9/9/2010 11:40:39 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
okay guys, here's the game plan
get in the UCF thread and post a bunch of random gifs and pictures, BEU can make some unfunny videos, and we can post all the blogs and national news articles talking about the upcoming game
WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON SATURDAY'S GAME, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE 9/9/2010 11:42:50 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i dont buy what youre sellin, recruits be damned its all about the coaching." |
Well you're wrong then. Look at the the past million BCS participants. You don't needs tons of stars...but you need some...and right now, we don't have many.
And I doubt our players care 1/100th as much as most State fans do. Unless they grew up as State fans, then they probably only know what's being said around campus.9/9/2010 11:44:27 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "okay guys, here's the game plan
get in the UCF thread and post a bunch of random gifs and pictures, BEU can make some unfunny videos, and we can post all the blogs and national news articles talking about the upcoming game
WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON SATURDAY'S GAME, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE" |
exactly, too many fish in this creek waitin for success to be swept downstream to them
btw stars are just players that have consistently performed and have become reliable. thats it
o might I add, in high profile roles
[Edited on September 9, 2010 at 11:53 AM. Reason : d]9/9/2010 11:47:03 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Common sense if you ask me" |
uh, yeah, it's pretty obvious9/9/2010 11:55:56 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Common sense if you ask me" |
uh, yeah, it's pretty obvious9/9/2010 11:55:56 AM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
UNC fans trying to devert attention away from the collapse in chapel hill.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/09/09/672243/bomb-threat-forces-evacuation.html
"let it simmer a little and then stir. Soon it'll be ready to serve." 9/9/2010 12:31:44 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
LOL stupid ECU fans9/9/2010 12:49:25 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
you got me. i cna't spell. lol
I could go back and edit it, but lets keep it real in here.
DOWN WITH CRACKALINA!!!!!!!!! 9/9/2010 12:53:02 PM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
You need a tutor. 9/9/2010 1:09:36 PM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
I hear the former UNC tutor is looking for work. 9/9/2010 1:14:53 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Tutors
For
All!!!!!" |
9/9/2010 1:27:42 PM |
badboyben All American 7631 Posts user info edit post |
That's not the "bomb threat" I'm looking for.9/9/2010 1:33:08 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
hahahaha yes i could use a tutor for spelling. thats a fact.
I blow spell check up when I write documents.
It takes me longer to correct spelling than it does to write the doc.
moving on 9/9/2010 1:33:40 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "PERFORMANCE
ENHANCING
TUTOR" |
9/9/2010 1:35:51 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30326784&id=1392360629&ref=fbx_album#!/event.php?eid=150072968354254
Maybe these guys can answer the mystery of John Blake's money trail
Feel free to troll
[Edited on September 9, 2010 at 2:09 PM. Reason : .] 9/9/2010 2:09:25 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
^fail 9/9/2010 2:20:59 PM |
Duncan All American 1442 Posts user info edit post |
Love this thread. Just thought I'd quote some prophetic things from page 1:
Quote : | "Inside Carolina has been able to confirm through its sources that the investigation is not academic-related." |
Quote : | "maybe some of their baller defensive players took gifts from agents and wont be able to play this year" |
Quote : | "in on page 1
hoping this develops into a huge scandal that destroys their program for years to come..." |
Quote : | "I hope its Austin and some of their D-line" |
9/9/2010 2:27:36 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Inside Carolina has been able to confirm through its sources that the investigation is not academic-related."" |
To be fair, it did start out that way.9/9/2010 2:37:25 PM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
On IC now you are seeing more, "what if Butch has to go?" threads.
May favorite - Saban - Really?
Quote : | "hate starting threads, but this seems to fit now
Don't be calling for Coach Davis or anybody elses head unless we are prepared to pull out our wallets. If the consensus is to upgrade to a Saban----well so be it, but if not----let Coach Davis straighten this mess out and support him. Dear God folks, our 2's and 3's almost beat a top tier SEC team. And truth be known, if we had known who was going to be able to play, I don't think it would have even been close. Way too much uncertainty before the game.
If you don't like bringing in the best athletes we can get, then we do not want big time football here. It seems like the decision is ours to make. I for one am very excited about Carolina football and it takes a lot for this old man to get excited." | ]]9/9/2010 2:41:18 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If the consensus is to upgrade to a Saban----well so be it" |
ahahahahaha THIS IS WHY EVERYONE HATES YOU9/9/2010 2:44:07 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "top tier SEC team" |
9/9/2010 2:48:05 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
They didn't say Saban, they said "a" Saban, as in Saban like. Would never happen and certainly wouldn't happen after Butch as I'm sure they'd be on some probation. 9/9/2010 2:56:13 PM |
whtmike2k All American 2504 Posts user info edit post |
i'd like to update my quote from page one:
Quote : | "in on page 1
burn the fuckers to the ground" |
in on page 66
burn the fuckers to the ground
Quote : | "Dear God folks, our 2's and 3's almost beat a top tier SEC team" |
wtf, that "top tier" (yeah OK sure) SEC team took it's foot off the gas then tripped all over itself trying to hold onto it's lead. their ineptitude in the 2nd half was only exceeded by UNC's in the 1st (and pianalto's on the last drive )
OMG LSU IS LIKE THE BEST SEC TEAM EVER AND WE ALMOST WON. GO US YAY MORAL VICTORIES.
[Edited on September 9, 2010 at 2:59 PM. Reason : .]9/9/2010 2:56:41 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They didn't say Saban, they said "a" Saban, as in Saban like. " |
Yes9/9/2010 2:59:55 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They didn't say Saban, they said "a" Saban, as in Saban like" |
so in other words
either Saban or Meyer9/9/2010 3:01:27 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
From page 1:
Quote : | "I'm sure Swofford is on the phone right now taking care of it. The NCAA investigators will wake up tomorrow with dead hookers in their trunk." |
so I was a little off 9/9/2010 3:01:58 PM |
ZincMachWon All American 888 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds like shit is about to go down! 9/9/2010 3:06:11 PM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
gah, reading IC makes my blood pressure skyrocket. those pricks have their noses turned so far up they'd drown in a rainstorm.
Quote : | "burn the fuckers to the ground" |
9/9/2010 3:06:42 PM |
stillrolling All American 1225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " WILMINGTON -- University of North Carolina Athletics Director Dick Baddour told the UNC system's Board of Governors today that academic misconduct by members of the football team may date back a year or more.
Asked whether the cheating could have happened in prior years, Baddour said, "The short answer is yes. We will go where the information leads us. If that isn't the immediate year ... we will go where the information takes us."
Baddour didn't say anything more on that issue.
The comments came this afternoon during an appearance by Baddour and University of North Carolina Chancellor Holden Thorp at a committee meeting of the UNC system's Board of Governors, which sets policy for all public universities. The board is meeting this week on the campus of UNC Wilmington.
Several board members peppered Thorp and Baddour with questions about the ongoing NCAA investigation into the football program. One branch of the probe has focused on allegations of academic misconduct involving football players and a university tutor who also worked for Tar Heels football coach Butch Davis' family.
The other prong of the probe is investigating the possibility that some UNC football players have had improper contact with a sports agent.
Asked whether the university has a concrete indication that the academic misconduct stretches back a year or more, Thorp said, "I just can't say. We're going to look where the facts take us."
The questions posed to Thorp and Baddour, largely touched on procedural issues, and Thorp said he doesn't yet know when resolution on the issues will be reached.
" |
N&O9/9/2010 3:13:28 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
popcorn? 9/9/2010 3:23:58 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Not really, Baddour is saying the same thing he always says. Nothing.
If the cheating went back further, then they'll look back further, is all he's saying. But as of right now we have no idea how long it's been going on, so this is still no news for UNC. 9/9/2010 3:26:55 PM |
ZincMachWon All American 888 Posts user info edit post |
This absolutely is popcorn worthy. You're talking about possible forfeiture of many past seasons. That might not sound like much, but the NCAA is just gonna heap that onto Lack of Institutional Control. 9/9/2010 3:28:46 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
them admitting guilt in any form is always popcorn worthy imo 9/9/2010 3:29:57 PM |
Duncan All American 1442 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Asked whether the cheating could have happened in prior years, Baddour said, "The short answer is yes. We will go where the information leads us. If that isn't the immediate year ... we will go where the information takes us." [...] Asked whether the university has a concrete indication that the academic misconduct stretches back a year or more, Thorp said, "I just can't say. We're going to look where the facts take us."" |
Translation: It's not my fault if the information takes the NCAA into basketball territory. Prepare yourself, tarholes.
[popcorn]9/9/2010 3:30:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
---> 9/9/2010 3:31:29 PM |