^ i now realize that.



i keep thinking of this when i say super low:



after doing some quick researching i think i like the 14ish percent range.
yeah....

also according to this:
http://www.nutribase.com/fwchartm.shtml
10% is considered "athlete"



[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 9:55 PM. Reason : i cant read]

8/3/2011 9:48:31 PM

Guys that big work out for other guys. I think most of them realize that.

Your boy Stein has your ideal build right now Joie

8/3/2011 10:04:11 PM

^^ All Natural Baby!!!

8/3/2011 10:17:35 PM

Joie, the guys you poster were closer to the 10% BF range than 14%. abs start becoming barely visible around 10-12%. the guys that grossed you out were probably around 6-7% BF.

8/3/2011 10:47:11 PM

^ I know
I said something about how there's a huge difference in 10 and 4 :p

10% is A little on the low side for me

8/3/2011 11:24:27 PM

Oh man, that chart says 5'7 164 for 25-34 year olds.

UNDERWEIGHT BABY

Lean, mean, and ready to leap into Joie's fantasies.

8/4/2011 12:28:48 AM

Leigh Peele does a good job demonstrating body fat on her site. And water retention can make you look "fatter" than someone with the same body fat percentage.

What percentage do y'all prefer on a chick?

8/4/2011 8:47:21 AM

women have a lot more variance in their body fat distribution, so it's hard to say. pear shaped women that are more prone to storing their weight in their hips and thighs are more attractive to me than apple shaped women who hold weight in their midsection.

8/4/2011 9:18:23 AM

^ haaaaaaay

8/4/2011 9:46:29 AM

I am in the 9.5%-10% range

8/4/2011 10:41:56 AM

hahahahahahaha i love you Stein

8/4/2011 10:48:38 AM

I'm 12%, but prefer being closer to 15%.

Here's the page I was thinking of:
http://www.leighpeele.com/body-fat-pictures-and-percentages

8/4/2011 10:48:53 AM

^I like 18% based on those pictures.

8/4/2011 10:50:40 AM

i'm definitely between 20 and 25 (probably right in the middle)


i wanna be closer to 18. maybe 15. maybe.

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 10:52 AM. Reason : fdgf]

8/4/2011 10:51:55 AM

I'd say 18-20 for a woman is about right for my style.

really digging the 18.

and Id say 10% on a dude is about right...any less and you have too much time on your hands.

8/4/2011 10:52:04 AM

Yeah, 18% is the best on her site. Pretty sure that Alessandra Ambrosio, the VS model.

Here's another pic of her ... 18% seems high for this:



[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 10:56 AM. Reason : s]

8/4/2011 10:55:04 AM

although its been airbrushed^

I like this on a girl...any of these are in about the right range...the blonde is getting a little too defined but I dont mind abs on a chick...I know some guys hate it.

8/4/2011 10:59:47 AM

i'm between 21-23% body fat. i calculated my measurements on a bunch of different sites and came up with numbers between there. i think i'm closer to 23% - would like to get down to about 20% body fat. i have big boobs no matter how much weight i lose or gain so i know from that alone i'm going to have a bit higher body fat on me even if i'm super lean.

8/4/2011 11:33:28 AM

I'd guess I'm around 14% bodyfat, and I'd like to get down to about 8-10%. I'm hoping I can shed off the last 15-20 pounds over the course of the next two months.

I should check my BF% with calipers tonight and see what that says. My bio-impedance scales says I'm around 35-40%.

8/4/2011 11:37:58 AM

stein wanders my dreams with his riped like a melon body.

8/4/2011 1:59:24 PM

You cannot be ripped at below 200 lbs. Your body fat be damned. If you are a guy, it's hard to even take your physique seriously until you're two bills. Pictures of stars and self pics are photoshopped and taken out of contest. Put Jay Cutler next to any picture on here and tell me who is leaner and bigger.

If you look like every other scrailing turd as soon as you put on a shirt, you are not ripped. You are small, probably weak, and definately shouldn't be boasting about your abs; as there are guys who weigh 300 lbs with harder, more defined mid sections.

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 2:20 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2011 2:18:50 PM

So fucking ripped, dude. Good call.



[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM. Reason : x]

8/4/2011 2:23:33 PM

lol.

in other news....

i just went for a run outside. yeah....it's hot out

8/4/2011 2:24:32 PM

Um, Mr Olympia, Jay Cutler. What an dumbass.

Doesn't even know the current Sandow holder.

Lolz

8/4/2011 2:27:07 PM

Quote :

"You cannot be ripped at below 200 lbs. Your body fat be damned. If you are a guy, it's hard to even take your physique seriously until you're two bills. Pictures of stars and self pics are photoshopped and taken out of contest. Put Jay Cutler next to any picture on here and tell me who is leaner and bigger. If you look like every other scrailing turd as soon as you put on a shirt, you are not ripped. You are small, probably weak, and definately shouldn't be boasting about your abs; as there are guys who weigh 300 lbs with harder, more defined mid sections."

You do realize that a large number of natural body builders compete below 200lbs right?

If you are below 6', having low body fat and being above 200lbs is something very hard to do with out the aid of hormones.

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 2:30 PM. Reason : 0]

8/4/2011 2:29:55 PM

yes but did Mr Olympia bang the beejesus out of Kristin Cavallari? I think not.

8/4/2011 2:30:41 PM

Yes, I do realize this. That is why there are so few "ripped" people.

Ronnie Coleman comes to mind. And Dennis Wolf.

8/4/2011 2:31:41 PM

Quote :

""You cannot be ripped at below 200 lbs. Your body fat be damned. If you are a guy, it's hard to even take your physique seriously until you're two bills. Pictures of stars and self pics are photoshopped and taken out of contest. Put Jay Cutler next to any picture on here and tell me who is leaner and bigger."

This makes no sense whatsoever. The trainer I had last year is a natural pro body builder and he's ripped and definitely under 200 and probably 5'6".

8/4/2011 2:36:51 PM

Here's some eye candy for maximus. Andy Haman for Dymatize.

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 2:41 PM. Reason : e]

8/4/2011 2:40:53 PM

8/4/2011 2:42:41 PM

He's natural because he's 5'6." If he were taller, he would juice and go pro with the big boys.

Being fast at flag football doesn't make you an NFL wide receiver. Being "ripped" at 186 lbs is not impressive or is it even possible.

Caveat: if you have your pro card, you can be ripped under 225. Barely.

8/4/2011 2:42:55 PM

Sorry, I missed the part where anyone here was trying to go pro.

8/4/2011 2:45:28 PM

Quote :

"Being fast at flag football doesn't make you an NFL wide receiver. Being "ripped" at 186 lbs is not impressive or is it even possible. Caveat: if you have your pro card, you can be ripped under 225. Barely."

How does that make sense? How is being ripped at 186 not impressive? He has a pro card but he said it's natural pro body building. I'm not too into how that all works but from the impression I got it's a lot harder to be a natural pro body builder and look "ripped" like the pro body builders who take all the steroids and stimulants. Aka it's actually MORE impressive to be ripped and small because you have less to work with and you're not taking any stimulants.

How does that not make sense?

8/4/2011 2:56:40 PM

*note* I am NOT ripped.

I just have lifted a LONG ass time and have high standards for who is shredded and who is not.

Also, anabolics are not stimulants, bro.

8/4/2011 2:59:55 PM

Like I said I don't know much about it. I assume natural pro body builders don't take anabolics either. I don't really know the difference.

I just know he would always say how hard it was to compete without taking anabolics.

And again I don't exactly know what "pro" means in body building. I know certain organizations like the NGA have "drug-free" masters divisions. I assume those are considered "pro". Right?

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 3:08 PM. Reason : s]

8/4/2011 3:03:55 PM

Quote :

"I no longer use this thread. Go to the bb thread."

-maximus

8/4/2011 3:29:42 PM

Wikipedia says Frank Zane was at or below 200 lbs (at 5' 9") for most of his career

He doesn't exactly compare with todays Bodybuilders but I'd still classify him as ripped

8/4/2011 3:34:12 PM

Quote :

"Caveat: if you have your pro card, you can be ripped under 225. Barely. "

my favorite bodybuilders all stepped on stage close to 200 pounds.


Serge Nubret - 70's bodybuilder and movie star. I always considered his shape and symmetry to be ideal, even moreso than Arnold.


David Henry - former 202 weight class Olympian



Hell, Arnold wasn't much over 230 when he was slaying the competition, but his shape made him look massive. Here's a comparison of Arnold to Ronnie Coleman, with Ronnie having a 60 pound weight advantage.


Take away the distended gut and massive legs from Ronnie, and the muscles on Arnold are more Apollo-esque.








[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 3:41 PM. Reason : Frank Zane is another classic figure, especially with his vacuum pose.]

8/4/2011 3:37:00 PM

look at big ron's legs. they are amazing. arnie is still the king, but we are really splitting hairs with bodybuilders (pros that win the olympia). they are obviously better than ALL of us.

i think the point that i am trying so hard to make is that just because you are skinny, it don't make you ripped. jay cutler vs. some skinny "ripped guy."







[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 3:44 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2011 3:41:42 PM

ronnie's legs always looked like shit. they're just big massive blobs with no definition, and it's a byproduct of how he trained. I think Arnold's look better. Now compare Arnold to Branch Warren or Tom Platz or Paul Demayo or Kai Greene, and it's no contest.

8/4/2011 3:45:27 PM

oh come on, nobody can beat Quadzilla, Tom Platz. that is a given.

but ron-ron's legs are amazing. besides dorian yates, nobody was able to get that hamstring/glute complex so thick and defined.

"ain't nuthin' but a peanut"

8/4/2011 3:46:56 PM

Quote :

"yes but did Mr Olympia bang the beejesus out of Kristin Cavallari? I think not. "

lolol

8/4/2011 3:49:10 PM

^ you know when maximus comes into the thread, i try to keep it light and fluffy.

8/4/2011 4:05:39 PM

Will the meatheads get back to the bodybuilding thread.

Quote :

"If you are a guy, it's hard to even take your physique seriously until you're two bills."

Holy shit. I need to start eating.

8/4/2011 4:39:07 PM

Yeah me too I'm 5'7" 180. I guess I need another 20 pounds of muscle.

8/4/2011 4:50:45 PM

^^i take your brother-in-law's physique seriously. he packs quite a punch in that bulldog frame.

[Edited on August 4, 2011 at 4:51 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2011 4:51:36 PM

I want to see maximus vs eleusis in a cage-fight.

8/4/2011 4:57:41 PM

^ i'd pay to see that

8/4/2011 4:58:56 PM

To the death, preferably, so we only have to deal with half the bullshit henceforth.









Kidding.











But not really.

8/4/2011 4:59:48 PM

I'll start organizing.

Also, my money is on eleusis.

8/4/2011 5:00:14 PM