^yep...even though a vastly disproportionate amount of the students in those classes were athletes, they weren't exclusively for athletes. so while what unc was (is?) doing was really bad and wrong, i wouldn't be totally shocked if the NCAA was like "yeah we can't help it if unc just decides to be a shitty school as long as the treat athletes and students equally"

4/24/2015 8:54:15 PM

Is this statement actually true?

Quote :

"A university with suspended accreditation cannot graduate anyone. The last time I saw this happen was at Sue Bennet College in London, Kentucky. The result of that move was that within a year the college was entirely gone with its staff and students dispersing to neighboring institutions."

http://www.aseaofblue.com/2015/4/27/8502327/has-north-carolina-reached-the-eve-of-destruction

If it is, I had no idea that could be part of the resulting punishment from SACS.

Where did they get this info from? (same article)

Quote :

"The commission has requested more information about the scandal and is expected to consider sanctions against the university in June."

WOAH, HEY NOW!!

http://www.amren.com/features/2015/05/the-old-college-try/

Quote :

"How blacks stay eligible for college sports."

[Edited on May 5, 2015 at 8:27 PM. Reason : _]

5/5/2015 8:19:17 PM

Quote :

"Lakers interested in UNC coach Roy Williams"

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/unc-now/article10326074.html

5/10/2015 6:00:37 PM

^That would be the dumbest thing both sides of that deal could ever do.

5/10/2015 10:35:34 PM

lol at that idea. maybe he'd be a great NBA coach. but he's almost 65 years old. he's only a few years younger than Phil Jackson who basically retired because he was getting old.

5/10/2015 10:38:37 PM

Check the date of that article.

5/10/2015 11:24:19 PM

^ lol

5/11/2015 12:48:54 PM

http://abc11.com/education/unc-to-learn-accreditation-status-next-month/722813/

"SACS President Dr. Belle Wheelan told ABC11 on Thursday, "the board decisions will be made public the afternoon of June 11."


This is the one investigation I do believe UNC will skate through unharmed.


HAHAHAHA

Quote :

" I believe everything from unc.edu in regard to them being cheaters... If you are using that as a source then I choose this as mine: http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=637574 "

[Edited on May 16, 2015 at 10:36 AM. Reason : _]

5/16/2015 10:28:17 AM

Yeah SACS isn't gonna do anything besides give them some kind of official warning with no consequences.

5/16/2015 2:15:08 PM

Yep and this will be their 2nd warning from SACS in the last 3 years I believe.

5/16/2015 2:30:42 PM

North Carolina has received the Notice of Allegations from the NCAA

http://insideca.ro/NiwSW

[Edited on May 22, 2015 at 11:43 AM. Reason : ]

5/22/2015 11:42:57 AM

Let's do this shit. Burn it down, fire everyone, boycott da schoo.

5/22/2015 11:54:09 AM

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5/22/2015 11:57:28 AM

Says they don't plan to release it for some time..

what a bunch of assholes

5/22/2015 11:59:34 AM

some entity will leak it

5/22/2015 12:06:15 PM

time for Pack Pride to work some magic

5/22/2015 12:08:55 PM

hell yea, they got it on my mother fucking birthday!

But what is this bullshit?

Quote :

"For details on the NCAA process, read InsideCarolina.com’s two-part feature this week on the enforcement basics and the NCAA’s challenge in determining allegations in a unique case."

Why do people keep acting like this case is so "unique" and the NCAA will have such a hard time? They cheated for 20 years.. Is cheating for 10 years less unique?



[Edited on May 22, 2015 at 12:31 PM. Reason : _]

5/22/2015 12:17:30 PM

It's because instead of just helping athletes cheat, they created an entire joke department to give out grades.

5/22/2015 12:29:04 PM

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5/22/2015 12:29:25 PM

Friday before Memorial weekend? Who would have thought?

5/22/2015 12:31:12 PM

^^^ And then Dean Smith had the balls to sell a book on how clean they were during the worst years of it.

[Edited on May 22, 2015 at 12:33 PM. Reason : .]

5/22/2015 12:32:43 PM

News and Observer must be writing a book on this one, they still haven't posted it.

5/22/2015 12:33:00 PM

http://uncnews.unc.edu/2015/05/22/unc-chapel-hill-announces-receiving-ncaa-notice-of-allegations/

Quote :

"The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill today announced the campus had received a notice of allegations from the NCAA as the next phase in its investigation of academic irregularities and possible bylaw infractions. In a joint statement, Chancellor Carol L. Folt and Director of Athletics Bubba Cunningham said the University had begun reviewing the NCAA’s notice. “We take these allegations very seriously, and we will carefully evaluate them to respond within the NCAA’s 90-day deadline,” the statement said. “The University will publicly release the NCAA’s notice as soon as possible. The notice is lengthy and must be prepared for public dissemination to ensure we protect privacy rights as required by federal and state law. When that review for redactions is complete, the University will post the notice on the Carolina Commitment website and notify the news media. When we respond to the NCAA’s allegations, we will follow this same release process. “Consistent with NCAA protocols, the University cannot comment on details of the investigation until it is completed.”"

A few things:
1. As soon as possible means like right now dipshits.
2. More redaction bullshit.
3. Didn't we previously establish there wasn't any specific rules that said they can't talk about this? Didn't they just make that up?

5/22/2015 12:43:09 PM

Here it is: http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article21680193.html

Quote :

"UNC-CH Chancellor Carol Folt rushed past reporters at the end of that meeting, saying she had another meeting to attend."

I was expecting more out of N&O.



[Edited on May 22, 2015 at 12:57 PM. Reason : _]

5/22/2015 12:46:13 PM

5/22/2015 12:55:58 PM

One of the PP know-it-alls said the rumor going around it that there will be a LOIC that includes five sports. Didn't name them...but if true...I would guess:

- Football
- Men's Bball
- Women's Bball
- Baseball
- Women's Soccer

All five of those programs/coaches/players were names in emails in the Wainstein report.

I'd still love to see basketball banners come down, but I could jerk off to major penalties to all of those sports.

5/22/2015 1:14:07 PM

^ The five in actuality would be

swimming
wrestling
gymnastics
basket weaving
quidditch

5/22/2015 1:24:00 PM

the fact that this story came out on the Friday before Memorial Day is so fucking predictable

5/22/2015 1:29:11 PM

^ It honestly doesn't matter. Either they get off light, and we're all pissed and it won't matter....or they get major penalties and it will be a big story for months. If they get LOIC in multiple and/or have to take away banners/victories....then it doesn't matter if they release it before a second 9/11...the sports world will go off. Hell...if their basketball team gets just one post-season ban it will be headlines for a long time.

5/22/2015 1:39:23 PM

at least they didn't wait until 5:00 to report it

5/22/2015 1:55:27 PM

What kind of punishment could we expect from a LOIC in 5 sports?

That sounds like the perfect recipe for a hammer dropping.

5/22/2015 2:06:01 PM

If they dont lose at least 2 banners I would consider it skating for basketball at least. They really should be dropping 3.

5/22/2015 2:14:14 PM

Gonna be a hot summer

5/22/2015 2:16:34 PM

Banners coming down would be hilarious and awesome, but it doesn't change what happened on the court. I'd much rather watch them field teams of walk-ons in basketball and football for the next few years.

5/22/2015 2:20:27 PM

You dont think UNC fans will be super pissed when they list number of titles and they appear right there beside poor ole NC State with only 2?

5/22/2015 2:25:51 PM

Why can't we have both? If they end up bringing banners down, expect multiple year post season bans

[Edited on May 22, 2015 at 2:41 PM. Reason : ]

5/22/2015 2:38:03 PM

Banners will come down and then go back up 2 years later a la Penn State

5/22/2015 3:01:37 PM

LOIC, just in case you were wondering, is Low Orbit Ion Cannon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Orbit_Ion_Cannon

5/22/2015 3:24:03 PM

I mean who doesn't know what LOIC stands for?

5/22/2015 3:40:23 PM

Now that all the major sports teams have had their opportunity to succeed this year...

It does make me curious what will come of all this. I no longer have hopes, skaters gonna skate.

5/22/2015 6:05:04 PM

Saw this article today, I missed it when it came out:

"How did Carolina lose its way? A UNC grad returns to campus to find out"

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2015/03/13/north-carolina-tar-heels-paper-classes-ncaa

Quote :

"^^^ And then Dean Smith had the balls to sell a book on how clean they were during the worst years of it. "

What was the name of the book?



[Edited on May 23, 2015 at 1:45 PM. Reason : _]

5/23/2015 1:44:14 PM

that chansky hack put out an article saying uncch is happy with the contents of the noa and apparently football and basketball aren't in any trouble

5/23/2015 10:47:02 PM

^Fuck Art. The light blue tint on his glasses is so strong that if they arrested Roy and Bubba and burned down the Dean Dome he would still find a way to spin it for UNC.

5/23/2015 10:52:59 PM

so happy they're still redacting the NOA. last time they got one it was released the same day.

5/26/2015 9:25:17 AM

I don't know what you guys are excited about. Carolina grad I talked to Friday informed me that this isn't a big deal and that everyone does this. Everyone does this GUYS. He even took those classes. Yeah they were super easy. And he only had one paper. And he only had to go if you wanted. And everyone got an A. And he didn't understand why I couldn't stop laughing.

5/26/2015 9:46:57 AM

http://chapelboro.com/news/unc/chansky-unc-happy-with-notice-of-allegations/

5/26/2015 10:06:28 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2015/05/25/unc-tarheels-bracing-for-likely-postseason-ban/

5/26/2015 11:01:02 AM

Quote :

"Jonathan Reynolds @FoxSportsJR #UNC most likely did in fact receive their NOA from the #NCAA on April 17th and sat on it. Seems about right they'd dump the news on Friday."

Don't know how legit this guy is but he is on sports radio so he might have heard something.

5/26/2015 11:17:05 AM

^^^

Quote :

"ources close to the situation say that the football and men’s basketball programs escaped allegations that would lead to the vacating of victories and (in basketball’s case) a national championship looking back and has not been charged with any violations that would result in a post-season ban and loss of scholarships moving forward. Apparently, the strongest allegations point toward the university for “lack of institutional control,” which is the NCAA’s most egregious charge. Usually, that comes along with alleged violations against certain athletic teams, coaches and/or athletes. But, in this case, the NCAA adhered to its historical precedent of not judging how a university offers and teaches its academic curricula."

PackPriders are making a good point that they wouldn't have sat on the news for a month and waited for a holiday weekend if it was good news. We can only hope.

[Edited on May 26, 2015 at 11:42 AM. Reason : .]

5/26/2015 11:37:59 AM

I'm running out of popcorn.

5/26/2015 11:47:24 AM