I didnt know if it was a character or some actor I should know that was doing a cameo or something.

9/22/2005 10:41:39 AM

soooo

jack let boone's step father die
but fought to save his life

9/22/2005 10:43:26 AM

That could be her dad, which would mean she is 8 during the flashback. Which means this is about 14 years ago.

That puts a wrench in my "Desmond took Locke's legs to save Jack's wife's legs" theory.

9/22/2005 10:43:50 AM

Shannon is 20 I thought.

so that would make it 12 years?

9/22/2005 10:44:58 AM

Okay, 12...


still seems like a long time ago for Jack to be a doctor.

9/22/2005 10:45:26 AM

he was sporting some very 1993 looks there...

9/22/2005 10:48:04 AM

i missed it! stupid work...

if somebody taped the premiere, wanna send me a PM? puh-lease?

9/22/2005 10:49:40 AM

Instead of running the stadium, he should have been doing the Macarena for exercise.

9/22/2005 10:49:58 AM

i taped it
but you'd have to come to wilson to watch it


also

because i taped it after "My name is Ear/The Office" you have to rewind the tape about 10 minutes in

i.e., the first 50 minutes of the tape are the last 50 minutes of the show

but there are no commercials

but again, you'd have to drive to wilson

9/22/2005 10:54:37 AM

so like i said this was my first episode, i plan on catching up by watching season 1 over the next week

can someone tell me how adam rutherford (the suv guy) is connected with the rest of the story?

9/22/2005 10:59:53 AM

good lord just watch season 1.

you really shouldnt have watched this premiere before watching season 1.

9/22/2005 11:03:12 AM

boone (who died on the island) and shannon are stepbrother and sister (and they hit it before getting on the plane)

they are very rich
but the money came from shannons father
boones mother got all the money when shannons father died (presumably in the car accident with jack's wife)
so shannon has spent the last several years getting back at boone and his mother
including milking boone for money by getting him to pay guys not to date her

boone was like locke jr on the island
he did everything locke did, and everything he told him to do
he was killed in a second plane crash on the island
(he was inside a plane hanging on a tree canopy and it crashed to the ground while he was in the cockpit)

9/22/2005 11:05:10 AM

I thought boones mother had the business and shannon was wanting her fair share through the marriage?

damn i need to get my shit straight

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 11:10 AM. Reason : *]

9/22/2005 11:08:04 AM

thanks woodfoot

and its not like i planned on watching it, it just kind of happened, and i dug it

9/22/2005 11:08:22 AM

The common viewer probably didn't even notice the guy's name or how he related to Boone and Shannon. Has this been confirmed yet anyway?
I wouldn't have known it unless I read it here. I didn't catch it.

9/22/2005 11:12:49 AM

^^ You should definitely check out the DVDs.

9/22/2005 11:24:27 AM

^^i mean, thats the thing with this show

if they give you a piece of information, you should probably accept that it fits the puzzle

they could have easily just not said the patients name

9/22/2005 11:56:16 AM

Does anyone have the first season on DVD that I can borrow, Im dying to watch it!

9/22/2005 12:18:23 PM

I hear you can borry it from Best Buy.

9/22/2005 12:33:13 PM

(from page 6)

Quote :

"So it would make sense that in an episode coming soon they find survivors from the rear part of the plane and M.R. is with them."

definitely. the black woman's husband is gonna be in that group too (she said she knew he was still alive in season 1).

9/22/2005 12:45:11 PM

btw anyone remember how in locke's dream with boone looking up into the sky saying '[woman's name] falls up the stairs... [woman's name] falls down the stairs' ? he explained it was his babysitter, but NOTHING past that. surely this has to enter back into the story at some point?

9/22/2005 12:48:51 PM

i think it would be foolhearted to introduce a second batch of people
when we've already got a convoluted web connecting so many of the people we already have

hell, we have people from the front section of the flame we've never met, why would we as an audience want to meet more people

9/22/2005 12:49:10 PM

i stand by my prediction! now someone answer my question about theresa falling up and down the stairs

9/22/2005 12:53:38 PM

Quote :

"I just watched the last 15 minutes over. The part with Jack and the girl who could wiggle her toes (wasn't paralyzed) was really powerful."

That was powerful. I was like "wow".

9/22/2005 12:57:12 PM

yeah dude that plays Jack is a good actor. I got swole up when sawyer was telling him about his dad.

9/22/2005 1:24:36 PM

Quote :

" think it would be foolhearted to introduce a second batch of people when we've already got a convoluted web connecting so many of the people we already have hell, we have people from the front section of the flame we've never met, why would we as an audience want to meet more people"

I think that, beyond the chick that was in row 48, no one from the tail section will be a main character. Maybe we will see black lady's husband (she wasn't in the last half of season 1 because the actress had schedule conflicts, so let's hope she is in season 2 enough to follow up on her story). If there are any other survivors from the tail section, I imagine there would only be a handful and they would blend in to the extras from the mid section.

But to tell you the truth, I don't think this is going to be "oh hey, we crashed over there, you guys were at the beach the whole time?!". I think it'll be something a little cooler than that.

9/22/2005 1:26:21 PM

locke is in on the whole thing

9/22/2005 1:42:29 PM

didn't see the show last night, and just downloaded and watched it so i'm just now giong through the thread.

Quote :

"I think the teaser for this episode would have made an incredible "what the fuck?" ending to last seasons finale."

this is exactly what needed to be done. how they ended the season was retarded. granted, this was a good beginning, but it (or something to this effect) needed to be done at the end of last season

9/22/2005 1:47:21 PM

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-types-of-space-colonies-have-been-proposed.htm

Quote :

"In 1929, Dr. John Desmond Bernal conceived of the Bernal sphere, a rotating space colony with a diameter of approximately 15 kilometers (9.3 miles), filled with air and colonized around the equator, where the rotation of the colony would create centrifugal force to simulate Earth's gravity. In the 60s and 70s, speculation and research into the possibility of space colonies experienced a renaissance, brought on by the Space Race. One of the most prominent thinkers participating in the design and advocacy of space colonies was Princeton physicist Gerard O'Neill, who in 1969 asked the provocative question, "Is the surface of a planet really the right place for an expanding technological civilization?" Throughout the 70s, O'Neill led workshops that investigated several proposed space colony designs in great detail. A NASA Summer Study in 1975 investigated three primary designs, dubbed Island One, Island Two, and Island Three. All three are based on the premise of a self-sustaining, artificial ecology within the station, called an arcology. Island One was the Bernal sphere, an enclosed design (good for protecting against radiation), excepting the poles, which would be left open to allow mirrors to redirect sunlight from the outside to the interior of the colony."

9/22/2005 2:03:58 PM

Crazy.

9/22/2005 2:12:39 PM

Quote :

"so i'm wondering if the people who say this show has become the same as the late x-files seasons are still thinking that way"

more questions

less answers

but i was entertained and not pissed off by the end

mainly b/c this is the first episode out of 22+

when it gets halfway through this season and things haven't been answered from last season i'll get pissed again

and if episode 20 comes around and they're still talking about jack's "wife", locke's legs, and how jinn can't speak english and no new developments concerning the island are brought to light, then much more complaining will take place


i really feel like they extended last season just to get ratings, very little significant info was presented, non-important issues were strecthed out. I felt a bit cheated since they essentially wasted time.

9/22/2005 2:12:52 PM

yeah, it would have been cool if they had put the opening of season 2, with Desmond, right after they blew the hatch last year. They blow the hatch and the screen goes blank. Scene shifts inside the bunker and with all the retro shit the audience is thinking "oh, another flashback" Then, boom, we find out the truth, season 1 ends, and the audience is like "what the fuck..." Eh, would have been cool, but last night's show was pretty crazy the way it was. Also, someone mentioned earlier about Desmond executing the program before they blew the hatch...could the program be the "security system"? As for the "Theresa falls up the stairs..," I don't think there will be anything else with it, it was just information that was used to make Boone a believer in what Locke was saying.

9/22/2005 2:16:00 PM

oh...and do you people not watch enough tv to figure out trends?

I can't believe how many of you were overly surprised that Desmond was the guy down under

everytime they introduce a new character who reacts with a main character in some fashion...that character is somehow important

there's a reason they have Desmond and Jack talking for 5 minutes...


also your guys' theories suck and are waaaaaaaay out there

stop trying to figure out how Desmond got there. that's not important right now. what's important is "Who is Desmond and what's his role?"

obviously since they introduced a direct confrontation between Desmond and Jack, something will be explained within the next two episodes (most likely the next episode).

9/22/2005 2:21:53 PM

I'm hoping that the next episode will be all-raft. I'm not sure if they could do a whole hour of that, but if they could pull it off well I'd really enjoy it.

9/22/2005 2:26:01 PM

Quote :

"locke's legs"

where did they talk about locke's legs last night?

9/22/2005 2:40:23 PM

they didn't

i was generalizing all the unimportant points the show likes to explore


anyways, i found another number thingy:

Quote :

"During the finale, as Hurley runs to catch the doomed flight 815, he passes by a girl's soccer team. The numbers on the backs of their jerseys are 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42."

9/22/2005 2:47:24 PM

son of a bitch
how did i miss that

people find some odd shit:
http://thelostnumbers.blogspot.com/

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 2:57 PM. Reason : `]

9/22/2005 2:52:28 PM

very extensive list of the numbers:
http://thelostnumbers1.greatestjournal.com/

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 3:03 PM. Reason : ^ crap, you beat me by 4 mins....oh wel]

9/22/2005 3:01:58 PM

http://forums.go.com/abc/oceanic/thread?start=0&threadID=561734
There are some mp3's of Walt's message in that thread. A few pages in, some people post cleaned up versions.

I'm having a hard time deciding what I'm hearing... Lots of possibilities

9/22/2005 3:05:35 PM

heh, told you people would do that

btw, just found this, the guy said "its probably a coincedence"
there are none of those when this show is involved:

Quote :

"4 4+4 15 4+4+4+4 4+4+15 4+4+4+15+15"

9/22/2005 3:08:02 PM

sounds like either "Press the button, the button's there" or "Press the button, the button's bad" not sure which, the last part is the hard part to understand

9/22/2005 3:10:52 PM

I thought he said, press the button, when noone is there

9/22/2005 3:11:58 PM

I'm starting to lean towards:

Press the button, nottub eht sserp

Take the file of him saying it (forward), play it forward, play it reverse, play it forward, play it reverse, ... it sounds the same...

9/22/2005 3:12:34 PM

Quote :

"also your guys' theories suck and are waaaaaaaay out there stop trying to figure out how Desmond got there. that's not important right now. what's important is "Who is Desmond and what's his role?" obviously since they introduced a direct confrontation between Desmond and Jack, something will be explained within the next two episodes (most likely the next episode)."

honestly, if all youre going to do is bitch and moan about how the show is done, keep your 'advice' to your damn self and let everyone else enjoy it.

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 3:17 PM. Reason : *]

9/22/2005 3:17:04 PM

From the thread I linked above:

Press the button when he's not there.
Press the button when no one is there.
Press the button. No one is here.
Press the button. The button's there.
Press the button. Help them.
Press the button. No button's there.
(No one has ever) Pressed the button. --- (forward) backward
Press the button. No one is sad.
Don't press the button. The button's bad.
Press the button. No one can stand.
Press the button. It controls the bears.
Press the button. Help us escape.
Press the button. Locke must be scared.
Press the button. Locke wasn't scared.
Press the button. Locke must be spared.
Press the button. No one's been spared.
Press the button. Don't trust the staff.


forward:
http://_lost.visaliarealestate.org/waltforward2.mp3

backward:
http://_lost.visaliarealestate.org/waltbackwards2.mp3

Also got the whispers before she sees him. Indescript except at the very end it says "Shannon".
http://_lost.visaliarealestate.org/whispers.mp3

Not that I can tell anything usefull about it, but whispers backwards:
http://_lost.visaliarealestate.org/whispersbackwards.mp3

9/22/2005 3:22:10 PM

^^YOU TELL HIM
he didn't even watch the episode

9/22/2005 3:29:29 PM

I decided to skip class last night to watch Lost even though I had a friend recording it for me. Good thing I did, the recording didn't work.

9/22/2005 3:51:49 PM

listening to these whispers creeps me out.

Quote :

"Don't know if this has been noticed before, but I just rewatched the intro to last night's episode, and figured out that Desmond (or whoever it is) is typing the numbers into the computer atthe beginning. His pattern is 4 -space- 8 -space- 15 -space- 16 -space- 23 -space- 42 - Execute. What does that mean the numbers do? He seemed pretty intent on executing that program first thing when he woke up."

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 4:04 PM. Reason : ]

9/22/2005 4:01:19 PM

some people on the abc forums are either odd or stupid

they're saying that the stuff at the beginning, the nice flowery living quarters, are all a figment of desmonds imagination
and one person is using the record skipping as evidence

i'm pretty sure, you set off an explosion, a record is going to skip

9/22/2005 4:07:25 PM

clever minds behind this show...clever minds.

BTW, that Desmond blurb and the similarities are too common to be conincidence.

9/22/2005 4:08:34 PM