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"I dont think anyone is defending the posters, but I will defend our fanbase. I've been here for 4 years and I wouldnt classify our student body as racist in any way shape or form. There are idiots and racists everywhere(including nc state, unc, d00k, whatever), but trying to point out that NC State as a racist institution because of what was said by a few people on an unrelated website is dumb."

I don't even think this is about race. Yes, the comments were really fucking stupid, but it happens all the time on here.

It's about people trying to be rebellious (Like still screaming fuck WRAL/Blacks/whoever even after all of this shit) and sound cool behind a fucking computer screen to keep up a shitty eReputation becuase they know that thier words will have no consequences.

You put em' in a room with a bunch of African Americans and I don't think they'd have much to say. I don't think they'd really think any derogatory thoughts.... they just do it for their 'online image'.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 9:56 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2007 9:54:31 PM

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"a large chunk of the users here post racist/inflammatory stuff just to get a rise or because they think it's funny or because they think they're anonymous. and it's a fucking disgrace. "

I agree, I just think you shouldnt put our entire institution in a group with those idiots. Even the majority of the posters here are reasonable. Sure there are heated arguments and curse words used but for the most part people stay away from the racial slurs except in chit chat.


^also true....thats the reason this is a non issue for the media. Yes TWW needs to be cleaned up, but this shouldnt go any further than WRAL or the other message boards.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 9:56 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2007 9:54:32 PM

are affected because of



[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 9:55 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 9:54:41 PM

Quote :

"I agree, I just think you shouldnt put our entire institution in a group with those idiots. Even the majority of the posters here are reasonable. Sure there are heated arguments and curse words used but for the most part people stay away from the racial slurs except in chit chat."

Which is true.

And as far as reasonable posters, that's true for sports talk for teh most part. Chit Chat is what's really bad

3/12/2007 9:56:14 PM

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"So I should stand by and let racists and homophobes get off for their biggotry? If other people fucking did it, then I wouldn't feel mandated to"

then join the peace corps or something if you really want to make a difference. until then i suggest you drink a beer and chill the fuck out.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 9:57 PM. Reason : quote]

3/12/2007 9:56:25 PM

why the fuck is Jarren suspended

3/12/2007 9:57:02 PM

hmm, sports talk is turning into the soap box now.

3/12/2007 9:57:11 PM

shit just spills over from chit chat and we got fucked because of it. Hopefully it will blow over and not make national news and the mods can clean that shit up in sports talk.

3/12/2007 9:57:23 PM

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"then join the peace corps or something if you really want to make a difference. until then i suggest you drink a beer and chill the fuck out."

because I can't do anything to help other people than to join the peace corps. Thanks for that input. And you need to grow up iceplaya. I know you want to have the cool on-line persona, but in reality you just come off as a caustic idiot.

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"shit just spills over from chit chat and we got fucked because of it. Hopefully it will blow over and not make national news and the mods can clean that shit up in sports talk."

they also need to clean up the shit in chit chat because there is no place for homophobia or racism anywhere.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 9:58 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 9:57:41 PM

haha can you imagine if it made national news! That would be fucking awesome!

3/12/2007 9:58:59 PM

I like that the mods don't censor though. What would the soap-box be without homophobia and racism?

3/12/2007 9:59:16 PM

^it's funny to think nutsmackr beleives we are reading his posts!

you and iceplaya are both n00bs IRL. isn't it past your bedtimes?

3/12/2007 9:59:24 PM

i'm pretty pissed the acc finals thread was locked. they should edited the posts or something. but putting it on lock is pretty lame. oh well.

3/12/2007 9:59:29 PM

^^^^Oh yeah, just fucking hilarious.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 9:59 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2007 9:59:35 PM

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"I like that the mods don't censor though. What would the soap-box be without homophobia and racism?"

and rapists don't like the fact that there are laws against rape.

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"^it's funny to think nutsmackr beleives we are reading his posts! you and iceplaya are both n00bs IRL. isn't it past your bedtimes?"

It's obvious that you are. Don't you have drugs to use?

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:00 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 9:59:54 PM

Last I heard, rape wasn't a 1st amendment right.

3/12/2007 10:00:50 PM

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"because I can't do anything to help other people than to join the peace corps. Thanks for that input. And you need to grow up iceplaya. I know you want to have the cool on-line persona, but in reality you just come off as a caustic idiot."

and i know you want to seem like the crusader for good and justice, but you come off as an overbearing tool much like your buddy mcdanger

3/12/2007 10:01:07 PM

As long as this website remains loosely moderated our rivals will continue to use it against us to give us a bad rep. No one cares about pornography & foul language anymore so we can keep that but the other stuff does hurt our image

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:02 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 10:01:14 PM

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"Last I heard, rape wasn't a 1st amendment right."

Hate speech is not protected by the First amendment.

thank you

I only wish I could be as e-cool as iceplaya

3/12/2007 10:01:58 PM

last I heard, hate speech and threats wasn't a 1st amendment right.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:03 PM. Reason : ^beat me..]

3/12/2007 10:02:43 PM

Furthermore, free speech does not apply to privately owned entities. (Tdub for instance)

3/12/2007 10:04:00 PM

Threats and racist speech aren't necessarily the same thing. Threatening a lynch mob obviously isn't protected (no shit.) That still doesn't mean the mods should censor racism. Racist speech that isn't designed to incite violence or persecution IS protected.

^No, but they are under no obligation to control the content.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:04 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2007 10:04:09 PM

i'm done arguing with you. apply for a mod if you want to clean up this place, otherwise shut the fuck up

3/12/2007 10:04:56 PM

This, however, is not the public square. It is privately owned and therefore the mods can censore whatever the hell they want to and I'd hope they would censor racism and homophobia.

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"i'm done arguing with you. apply for a mod if you want to clean up this place, otherwise shut the fuck up"

such fine words from the most mentally astute individual to ever post on tdub.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:05 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 10:05:02 PM

and we can think it's wrong and deplorable. and if the site owners agree, then tough shit.

3/12/2007 10:05:14 PM

but it hurts our image

3/12/2007 10:05:17 PM

I love all this NC STATE is racist junk.

I mean we are the only Big Four school with a black basketball coach last time I checked.

Oh wait let me rephrase that....African-American coach. Don't want IC to see that I said black.

3/12/2007 10:06:11 PM

ya why's hova suspended?

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:08 PM. Reason : ^i feel disgusted at thinking about him reading that thread, and ]

3/12/2007 10:06:20 PM

^^hey look at my black friend

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:06 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 10:06:40 PM

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" ^No, but they are under no obligation to control the content."

you are right, they don't have to, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't. And I wouldn't be surprised if Tdub were to get an injunction against it by NC State.

3/12/2007 10:06:51 PM

WHY


THE FUCK


IS JARREN SUSPENDED

3/12/2007 10:08:16 PM

I don't think they should. I like that the wolf web is a fairly open forum where you can say almost anything without worrying about being locked or deleted. I'm willing to ignore the people that use the anonymity to make asses out of themselves (either by using racial epithets or pompous condescension.) Now threats are a different matter and I think they've usually been good about dealing with that. Slow maybe, but still.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:10 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2007 10:09:03 PM

3/12/2007 10:09:30 PM

So what are the odds Barry Saunders will write a column about this?

3/12/2007 10:09:59 PM

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"I don't think they should. I like that the wolf web is a fairly open forum where you can say almost anything without worrying about being locked or deleted. Now threats are a different matter and I think they've usually been good about dealing with that. Slow maybe, but still."

and that is one idiots opinion. Don't cry when tdub is forced to shut down.

3/12/2007 10:10:40 PM

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"either by using racial epithets or pompous condescension."

Really, if they do start censoring more I hope you're the first to go.

3/12/2007 10:11:19 PM

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"So what are the odds Barry Saunders will write a column about this? "

That thought crossed my mind as well.

I'm sure he's all over it right now

3/12/2007 10:12:26 PM

There is no place for racism and homophobia. There is a place for demeaning other people when they show themselves to be complete idiots.

3/12/2007 10:12:26 PM

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"No one cares about pornography & foul language anymore"

yeah, i agree. posting nude pics of a professor at your university isn't going to attract any sort of negative attention to your university

3/12/2007 10:14:29 PM

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"yeah, i agree. posting nude pics of a professor at your university isn't going to attract any sort of negative attention to your university"

maybe she shouldn't have had them on her personal webpage she linked to on her syllabus.

3/12/2007 10:17:01 PM

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"posting nude pics of a professor at your university isn't going to attract any sort of negative attention to your university"

it's not even a fraction as negative as the racist homophobic stuff...

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:20 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 10:17:18 PM

Homophobic stuff directed at UNC isnt so bad. If they're going to call me a redneck or cow fucker, then I can call them an ass rapist or a faggot. Those are about equal. Ngr on the other hand is off limits.

3/12/2007 10:22:15 PM

Barry Saunders is a fucking joke. He thinks what he thinks matter, but it really doesn't.

3/12/2007 10:23:29 PM

^^Or we could just take the high road and not resort to those childish antics.

3/12/2007 10:26:18 PM

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"i'm pretty pissed the acc finals thread was locked. they should edited the posts or something. but putting it on lock is pretty lame. oh well."

Not that Im trying to shift the blame from the original offenders, but if it wasnt for the stupid 30 minute time limit on editing posts, or if the mods actually had some kind of control of the board (editing all posts), all of this shit could have possibly been avoided.

3/12/2007 10:28:25 PM

^^sounds nice, but we both know thats not going to happen on either end. I'm just saying.

3/12/2007 10:31:03 PM

^Yeah, I really hate not being able to edit after 30 min. and I REALLY hate having to enter something into the Reason for Edit box.


[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 10:34 PM. Reason : Derr!!!]

3/12/2007 10:31:29 PM

haha, ^gg

3/12/2007 10:32:41 PM

Quote :

"maybe she shouldn't have had them on her personal webpage she linked to on her syllabus."

That doesn't mean anything. Using your argument:

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"But Jesus fuckign Christ you people are retarded. Shit posted on the internet is viewable by almost everyone, including those outside your intended audience. I get railed on for yelling at you fuckers for using homophobic slurs and I get railed on by you fuckers for complaining about the racism. Fucking deal with it you stupid fucking shit brains. Y'all fucked up and now you are making the university look bad."

So it's not okay to call someone a nigger or a fag, but it's ok to post pics of a nude prof? Make up your mind about this whole 'high road' thing.

3/12/2007 10:34:55 PM

keep it classy guys, keep it classy.

while I agree that this has been blown out of proportion...wow, just wow...some people don't get it and never will.

3/12/2007 10:35:47 PM