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10/12/2007 5:54:35 PM

7 pages....

and all the person had to do was park on the perimeter...

[Edited on October 12, 2007 at 6:57 PM. Reason : although i dont really know the facts...]

10/12/2007 6:56:59 PM

WHATS THE UPDATE ON WRAL HUR?

10/12/2007 7:11:48 PM

wral found out there was underage drinking at said party, story at 11pm!

10/12/2007 8:35:40 PM

Quote :

"i guess every other business (i.e hillsbourgh street), apartment complex, and the (pay-2 park) places like VAL park have signs everywhere warning specifically that (non customers, people w/o parking permits, etc) will be towed even listing the number and name of the tow company just b.c they are all "nice guys" "

Well for starters, there's the big sign at the entrance to the complex that says and I quote:

"Parking for employees and customers. Towing enforced" and then lists the name and number of the towing company.

But if that wasn't clear enough, why didn't the signs you posted along with these signs:





not clarify for you that the lot was a private lot.

Quote :

"they have to follow Raleigh and NC towing laws dumb ass"

And did they not? The lot was marked as private at all entrances, there are multiple signs inside warning that the lot was private. That towing was enforced is specified and the contact info for the towing company was listed (just because you couldn't find it at 2 am doesn't mean it wasn't there).

Furthermore, as pointed out above:

Quote :

"Any person violating any of the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be only fined not more than ten dollars ($10.00) in the discretion of the court."

means that they still had the right to tow your friends and they still have to pay up.

10/12/2007 8:38:18 PM

oh snap, you must be a nut cracker cause you just cracked open this case!

10/12/2007 8:53:30 PM

one of my best friends (rip) worked for ACE and i went along with him on many of his night routes

i have it on good info that some of the guys used to steal decals from cars at KP and other places just to tow them. i actually know 'a guy' who turned in a list of decals to be on the 'no steal/no tow' list

ace is a scumbag company and they all prey on college kids. ive been down hillsborough st in a tow truck between 1:45 and 2:15 am over and over until a fish was caught more times than i can count.

my car was given free parking at that old hardees by UT for a couple semesters... (i think where zaxbys is now) and in turn my friends made at least a tow a day off other kids thinking it was ok to park there (they didnt have the tiny ace towing sticker on their windshield) - shit was awesome when i lived miles off campus and all my classes were in nelson

ive seen numerous dumbass college kids pay 50 bucks to be "let off the hook" so they could just drive home

ive also seen some thug motherfuckers show up at the yard at 3am with pistols and shit demanding their cars back. theres fuckups on both sides. its too bad both sides wont follow the rules, but theres so much room for easy money in that job, and with easy money comes criminal activity

[Edited on October 12, 2007 at 9:08 PM. Reason : //]

10/12/2007 9:05:56 PM

or with criminal activity comes easy money

ho ho!

10/12/2007 9:07:05 PM

hand in hand

10/12/2007 9:09:45 PM

Quote :

"Well for starters, there's the big sign at the entrance to the complex that says and I quote: "Parking for employees and customers. Towing enforced" and then lists the name and number of the towing company."

Someone take a picture and it will be /thread.

Quote :

"ive also seen some thug motherfuckers show up at the yard at 3am with pistols and shit demanding their cars back. "

and how did that end? Im guessing the gatekeepers had some sort of armaments of their own.

[Edited on October 12, 2007 at 9:12 PM. Reason : ]

10/12/2007 9:09:51 PM

ps the misdemeanor conviction for the driver is i think a pretty bad thing, moreso than the 10 bucks. theres only a certain number of misedemeanors, even class 3, before someone goes to jail

10/12/2007 9:12:13 PM

Quote :

"ive also seen some thug motherfuckers show up at the yard at 3am with pistols and shit demanding their cars back"

so did the thugs get their cars back?

10/12/2007 11:03:58 PM

Quote :

"I bet you're the type to get pissed off if you parked in my driveway and I had your @$$ towed. You'd probably say I didn't have signage at my house."

I think you're missing one of the key points being made. If there is no sign at all I'd probably err on the side of caution and not park there. If there is a sign saying the reasons for which I could be towed and I don't meet those criteria then I might just park there.

10/13/2007 9:11:49 AM

Quote :

"Well for starters, there's the big sign at the entrance to the complex that says and I quote: "Parking for employees and customers. Towing enforced" and then lists the name and number of the towing company."

So you're saying they have conflicting signage as well?

10/13/2007 11:21:23 AM

^ its not conflicting. one sign is general, the other is directed at the people who they had a problem with earlier in the semester since the first sign obviously did not spell it out for them enough

10/13/2007 10:35:26 PM

and some bitch who works there stole my wallet so i hate them

10/13/2007 10:48:15 PM

Quote :

"^ its not conflicting. one sign is general, the other is directed at the people who they had a problem with earlier in the semester since the first sign obviously did not spell it out for them enough"

Except that doesn't make any sense. One sign allows the violation of the other sign. They conflict.

10/13/2007 10:52:40 PM

^ the second sign in no way says "wolfline riders must park along outer edges, other non customers you're good to go, ignore the other sign", nor does it say "only wolfline riders will be towed" since the second sign does not exclude any group, only lists one particular group that the store is having problems with and make it crystal clear to this group that they can not park there. there is no conflict

10/13/2007 11:27:23 PM

Quote :

"so did the thugs get their cars back?"

one set did, there were A LOT.

the others, no. they got cops called or maglites to the head or both

10/13/2007 11:29:33 PM

I'm still waiting on HUR to answer my question - does he think its ok for Wolfline drivers to park wherever they want in that parking lot??

10/14/2007 8:04:11 AM

Quote :

"^ the second sign in no way says "wolfline riders must park along outer edges, other non customers you're good to go, ignore the other sign", nor does it say "only wolfline riders will be towed" since the second sign does not exclude any group, only lists one particular group that the store is having problems with and make it crystal clear to this group that they can not park there. there is no conflict"

If one sign says that only customers and employees can park in the lot, that means Wolfline riders can't park there.

Except for that fact that one sign clearly says they can in certain spots. It doesn't say they can't park there at all. It says they can under certain circumstances, despite being neither employees nor customers.

Therefore, the latter sign is contradictory to the former sign.

10/14/2007 12:00:27 PM

Quote :

"surfin903TKE Veteran 107 Posts user info edit post can me and my house be left out of this waste of time please"

haha

10/14/2007 12:51:11 PM

the employees only sign is for the small lot on the side of the store, NOT the main lot.

10/14/2007 1:54:08 PM

This guy was majorly Pwned

10/14/2007 1:54:50 PM

I was just there and saw no signs about private parking. I came in the entrance on the wolfline side of the lot. There were about 10 of the Wolfline riders park on the perimeter though and not one saying no overnight parking, etc.

10/14/2007 2:22:22 PM

that second set of pictures, the one that you can see the food lion building in the background...that sign is for the parking that is in the building which is not even connected to Food Lion.

Food Lion is a totally different lot

10/14/2007 6:13:39 PM

Quote :

"does he think its ok for Wolfline drivers to park wherever they want in that parking lot??"

why would wolfline drivers park there???? they have to hit up the ncsu transportation lot to get there bus; and they a parking permit there

10/14/2007 7:14:51 PM

nevermind why - you're avoiding the question.... do you think they ought to be able to park wherever they want in that lot while driving around the wolfline busses?

10/14/2007 10:55:21 PM

what the hell is the deal with that stupid ass question?

10/15/2007 8:13:53 AM

you know exactly what the deal is and that's why you're pissed off that I asked it.

also, I like how the question has brought you and HUR's bitching to a grinding halt

I'll take that as tacit admission

[Edited on October 16, 2007 at 7:53 AM. Reason : s]

10/16/2007 7:52:33 AM

Did HUR write this? (Technician Article)

10/16/2007 8:16:22 AM

[link]http://media.http://www.technicianonline.com/media/storage/paper848/news/2007/10/16/Viewpoint/Tired.Of.Being.Towed-3033508.shtml?reffeature=htmlemailedition[/link]

your link doesn't work.

[Edited on October 16, 2007 at 9:04 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on October 16, 2007 at 9:04 AM. Reason : and neither does mine ]

10/16/2007 9:03:41 AM

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10/16/2007 9:28:16 AM

Quote :

"you know exactly what the deal is and that's why you're pissed off that I asked it. also, I like how the question has brought you and HUR's bitching to a grinding halt I'll take that as tacit admission "

i am in no way involved with this incident, and have never been towed in my life. your question has no relevance to the debate, and therefore doesn't need to be discussed. the wolfline drivers park where they pick up the bus from.

10/16/2007 9:36:45 AM

tinyurl=profit

http://tinyurl.com/24pwf3

Quote :

"Tired of being towed Joe Wright Issue date: 10/16/07 Section: Viewpoint It was reported that in November of 2002, Raleigh Mayor Charles Meeker received a 1:15 a.m. phone call from Margaret Rose Murray. Murray was calling to tell Meeker about something she believed gave our city a bad name--predatory towing. Murray had some friends in from out-of-town. They had gone downtown and parked in the lot in front of the BTI Center, a lot that was, at the time, unused and empty. When they returned to the lot around 1 a.m. they found all of their cars had been towed. There were no clear signs stating that towing was enforced; the group was shocked. The next day Mayor Meeker announced that it was time to crack down on predatory towing in Raleigh. Over the next two years predatory towing was discussed in the City Council and by local media outlets. Finally, in December of 2004, new legislation concerning predatory towing became active. Meeker declared that private lots that would tow had to clearly mark that no parking was allowed and that towing would be used to enforce this. Meeker also declared that towing companies could not charge more than $100 for a tow made without consent and that if you return to your car before the truck leaves the lot you can get your car back for a charge not exceeding $50. Tow lots also have to have somebody on the lot 24 hours a day so that they can respond to a driver's call within 15 minutes and have the car released within 45 minutes. The legislation did a good bit to help with some of the towing problems downtown but unfortunately, there is still an issue here at N.C. State. The sharks of the towing business are now swimming around N.C. State. As a State student you undoubtedly have either been towed yourself or know somebody who has been towed. Whether they are lurking around the Food Lion on Western Boulevard or hunting around Sakura Express and Sylvia's Pizza, the tow trucks are always out looking for an easy $100. The towing companies use various gray areas in the law and unclear signs to take advantage of us, the students of N.C. State. Right now one of the biggest projects Meeker is working on is a complete revitalization of Raleigh. There will be a new convention center, new parking decks and the Hillsborough Street revitalization project. Mayor Meeker, before any good can come from the Hillsborough Street revitalization project you have to address the predatory towing issues. One of the main reasons that many people don't use Hillsborough Street more often is because of a fear of being towed, not because it isn't aesthetically pleasing. The Raleigh City Council needs to take an in-depth examination of the towing practices surrounding the N.C. State community and the possible monetary kickbacks that several local businesses are receiving from towing companies. It's time for the predatory towing around N.C. State to end. Join me in letting Mayor Meeker know about this problem that is affecting more than 30,000 Raleigh citizens."

[Edited on October 16, 2007 at 12:58 PM. Reason : ]

10/16/2007 12:57:50 PM

Quote :

"also, I like how the question has brought you and HUR's bitching to a grinding halt "

Not exactly. You must have missed a previous post about how i have accomplished my goals for this thread. Actually i have not even read any of your replies except for this one on page 7 while checking out recent updates. I have gotten tired of all you stubborn dumbasses with the....
(OMG MY PRIVATE PROPERTY I CAN DO WHATEVER, TAKE A SHIT ON YOUR WINDSHIELD, AND ROCK OUT W/ MY COCK OUT SINCE ITS MY PRIVATE PROPERTY) attitude.

i've also been busier at work and not had time to continue on the debate on a 20min interval

Quote :

"your question has no relevance to the debate, and therefore doesn't need to be discussed. the wolfline drivers park where they pick up the bus from. "

FTW

anyone knowing what this thread is about knows my car was not towed not have i ever had my car towed before.

[Edited on October 16, 2007 at 1:07 PM. Reason : l]

10/16/2007 1:06:21 PM

and still they won't answer the question

instead of writing three letters "yes" or two letters "no" they dance all around the issue with paragraphs of words justifying how they don't have time to answer my simple question:

Should wolfline drivers be able to park wherever they want in the Food Lion parking lot while they drive the bus?

I'll take your refusal to answer as a [/thread]

[Edited on October 16, 2007 at 8:18 PM. Reason : s]

10/16/2007 8:16:04 PM

Since only wolfline riders are penalized by the sign, then wolfline drivers may use the lot whenever they please with no threat of towing since they can never be riders of the wolfline.

thank to HUR for his infallible logic.

10/16/2007 9:02:41 PM

^^ no it is that your question is stupid and makes no logical extension of the debate.

whoa should be allow NBA players to park their limo at food lion, what about bicyclaists, or what about redneck riding his tractor into the food lion parking lot

don't be a moron

[Edited on October 17, 2007 at 9:57 AM. Reason : l]

10/17/2007 9:56:57 AM

are they shoppers? well...yea

you gonna discriminate against NBA players and rednecks because they drive different vehicles than you?

10/17/2007 10:04:47 AM

and 45 words on, HUR still has yet to give a simple "yes" or "no"

what is about the question that agitates you so much? could it be, that it completely dissolves your argument?

[Edited on October 17, 2007 at 10:44 AM. Reason : s]

10/17/2007 10:43:43 AM

no you questions has nothing to do with the debate beyond the fact that it makes no sense. what are you going to ask next?? "What if NCSU decided to park the actual wolfline busses at foodlion; should they be towed" durrr de durrrrrr

do not be stupid

beyond the normal intuition that would give your question no value to the discussion their is also the issue that the "wolfline drivers" would be parking at foodlion during peak business hours which also corresponds to the times when the wolfline actually does service the greek way stop.

[Edited on October 17, 2007 at 10:48 AM. Reason : s]

10/17/2007 10:47:19 AM

^^ Should birds be able to fly backwards? Your question has no fucking point and is as relevant to the discussion as the one I just asked.

[Edited on October 17, 2007 at 10:48 AM. Reason : not enough ^s]

10/17/2007 10:48:37 AM

perhaps Solinari is curious b.c he wants to land his spaceship on the foodlion parking lot. I might have to agree that landing your spaceship in the foodlion parking lot solinari is a little different then a few kids parking there after food lion closed.

10/17/2007 11:09:23 AM

CAN ACE TOWING TRUCKS PARK IN THE FOOD LION PARKING LOT??

WHAT IF WOLFLINE DRIVERS ALSO DRIVE ACE TOWING TRUCKS

WOULD THESE ACE TOWING TRUCKS BE ALLOWED TO PARK IN THE FOOD LION PARKING LOT????


ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Edited on October 17, 2007 at 11:26 AM. Reason : what a fucking idiotic question]

10/17/2007 11:25:02 AM

has there been any resolution or headway (aside from calling WRAL) by you or your friends who were towed whatsoever regarding this matter?

10/17/2007 1:43:59 PM

I like how everyone who's splitting hairs over the exact wording of "wolfline riders" is now outraged that I would ask a question about wolfline drivers.

pwn

10/18/2007 7:26:24 AM

or how about the exact wording of "business hours" on the door?
or how about the implied consent for people to park there after hours telling students it is ok to park there as long as you are on the outer wall during business hours??

10/18/2007 9:24:36 AM

The silence is deafening. Guess WRAL thought the story was retarded too.

10/18/2007 10:04:34 AM

it's funny how basically the signs say that it's no big deal if you park in the lot, but some of you people are taking the side of an unholy alliance of an evil towing company and an unscrupulous night manager. CLEARLY the only harm committed that night was the wrongful towing of vehicles from a place where it has always been ok to park after store hours.


SHAME on you people. SHAME.

[Edited on October 18, 2007 at 10:26 AM. Reason : ]

10/18/2007 10:25:54 AM