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""she says she for reform & against the bridge to no where & it turns out she wasn't"

This still seems to hinge on technicalities though which makes people skeptical (which means it's easy to reverse any negative effect).

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"she hasn't really thought about Iraq before & doesn't know anything about it"

This kind of thing resignates™ with voters though, because it comes off as honest, and most voters don't really know anything about Iraq either.

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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003844485

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"First Two National Polls Find Palin Gains LESS Support from Women The first national polls on John McCain's pick of Sarah Palin yesterday came out today from Rasmussen and Gallup -- and contrary to what the GOP probably hoped, she scored less well with women than men. "

[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 9:20 PM. Reason : ]

8/30/2008 9:19:33 PM

Just saw this on campusblender.

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"The headlines are about the broad polling reaction to Palin. But the most fascinating part of the first Rasmussen poll on the matter is how those who are currently undecided in the election feel. They, after all, are the votes both campaigns are trying to win over with their veep picks. The key data is in the cross-tabs, which have been missed in some of the coverage so far. On the critical question, "With Palin As Vice-Presidential Nominee, Are You More Or Less Likely To Vote For McCain," there's a striking result. Among those already for McCain, 68 percent say it makes them more likely to vote for him; only 6 percent say less; and 23 percent said no impact. Among those already for Obama, Palin made only 9 percent of them more likely to switch to McCain, 59 percent less likely, and 30 percent said it would make no difference. But among the critical undecideds, the Palin pick made only 6 percent more likely to vote for McCain; and it made 31 percent less likely to vote for him. 49 percent said it would have no impact, and 15 percent remained unsure. More to the point: among undecideds, 59 percent said Palin was unready to be president. Only 6 percent said she was. If the first criterion for any job is whether you're ready for it, this is a pretty major indictment of the first act of McCain's presidential leadership. One other striking finding. If McCain thought he could present Palin as a moderate, he was wrong. A whopping 69 percent view her as conservative (37 percent as very conservative), and only 13 percent see her as moderate."

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/undecideds-dont.html

8/30/2008 9:45:39 PM

^ Andrew Sullivan's more confused than a rodeo clown on acid. The favorable information concerning Palin that I posted is corroborated by three different sources (at least) and represents the opinions of many people--not just one guy who's all over the sociopolitical map.

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"Yeah, all those people watched the big Biden speech, too. But Palin is liked more than Biden--and the Republicans haven't even had their convention yet. Daily Presidential Tracking Poll 'Sarah Palin made a good first impression. She was unknown nationally before being introduced as the GOP Vice-Presidential pick but is now viewed favorably by 53% of voters nationwide. Her counterpart, Joe Biden, is viewed favorably by 48%. While Palin has made a good first impression, the more significant numbers will come a week from now after the nation has a chance to learn more about her.' http://tinyurl.com/2u693r Palin's Possible Impact 'The Palin pick may help John McCain close the gap in support with Barack Obama among white, female independents.' http://www.gallup.com/video/109939/Palins-Possible-Impact.aspx Brash McCain pick of AK Gov. Palin neutralizes historic Obama speech, stunts the Dems' convention bounce 'UTICA, New York - Republican John McCain's surprise announcement Friday of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate - some 16 hours after Democrat Barack Obama's historic speech accepting his party's presidential nomination - has possibly stunted any Obama convention bump, the latest Zogby Interactive flash poll of the race shows. After the McCain 'Veep' announcement on Friday, Palin was almost immediately hailed as a strong conservative, and those voters have rallied to the GOP ticket, the survey shows. Republicans gather in St. Paul, Minnesota this week to officially nominate McCain and Palin as their presidential ticket. Overall, 52% said the selection of Palin as the GOP vice presidential nominee helps the Republican ticket, compared to 29% who said it hurt. Another 10% said it made no difference, while 10% were unsure. Among independent voters, 52% said it helps, while 26% said it would hurt. Among women, 48% said it would help, while 29% said it would hurt the GOP ticket. Among Republicans, the choice was a big hit - as 87% said it would help, and just 3% said it would hurt.' http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1547"

[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 10:09 PM. Reason : .]

8/30/2008 10:07:09 PM

^ I don't know if you are just reading talking points rather than reading the links, but favorable != getting votes. My link notes she has a high favorability, but that still doesn't mean she's getting votes (which at this point in time, she's not).

8/30/2008 10:10:29 PM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/30/palin-booed-for-mentioning-hillary-clinton/

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"Palin booed for mentioning Hillary Clinton WASHINGTON, Pennsylvania (CNN) – This might not be the best way to reach out to those disillusioned Hillary Clinton supporters. In just her second appearance on the campaign trail with John McCain, newly-minted GOP running mate Sarah Palin was showered with boos on Saturday for attempting to praise Clinton’s trail-blazing bid to become the first female president. As she did at in her debut speech in Ohio yesterday, Palin appealed to the women in the crowd here in Pennsylvania with a political shout-out to Geraldine Ferraro, who preceded Palin as the first women to be tapped as a vice presidential candidate. But in contrast with the mild reception that greeted her comments at the Ohio event, when Palin praised Clinton here for showing “determination and grace in her presidential campaign,” the Alaska governor was met with a noisy mix of boos, groans and grumbles around the minor league ballpark where the “Road to the Convention Rally” was held. Palin quickly recovered, promising the audience that female candidates weren’t yet finished, and that she and McCain were on their way to victory in November."

So is this republicans booing Hillary b/c republicans don't like Hillary thus making sure Hillary supporters don't feel welcome in that party, or is it democrats who don't like someone whose platform is the opposite of Hillary's trying to take over her supporters?

I'm more inclined to think its republican's saying Hillary supporters aren't welcome in their party, since it was a Road to the Convention Rally, but either way this looks bad for them absorbing Hillary supporters.

[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 10:35 PM. Reason : .]

8/30/2008 10:30:25 PM

I've told you all here before that Biden is a loose cannon who hasn't been exactly right in the head since they drilled it some years ago.

Biden struggles to tame hyperbole, quips

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"Early in his own unsuccessful bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, Biden drew fire fire for two comments widely interpreted as racially insensitive. He called Obama and said that in his home state, You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. Im not joking. During his first run for president, in 1987, Biden told a would-be voter, I have a much higher IQ than you do and cited academic accomplishments that turned out to be false. I exaggerate when I'm angry, he later explained to The New York Times, though last year he said on NBCs Meet the Press that hes kicked that tendency. A few months later, however, Biden claimed during a Democratic presidential debate that hed been shot at during a trip to the Green Zone in Baghdad. Days later, he tried to walk back the claim. Biden told The Hill newspaper that what he should have said was I was near where a shot landed. Biden, himself, seems aware of the perception that he strays towards hyperbole. A handful of times on Tuesday, he assured supporters that he was being sincere and was not engaging in hyperbole, and also prefaced many remarks by saying literally. At a roundtable on womens economic issues with Michelle Obama and the female governors of Arizona, Delaware, Kansas and Washington, Biden said of Obamas Monday night convention speech I heard last night the most remarkable speech I have heard in my life. Im not engaging in hyperbole. Turning to Obama, he said: Michelle, I mean this sincerely, there are speeches that are profound in the things that they say and what they communicate. But the mark of a truly incredible speech is when its able to change the perception of a nation about not only an individual but about a circumstance. That was what was so profound about Michelles speech last night. Earlier, at the breakfast, Biden predicted that three and four years from now [when] theyre commenting on why the Democrats won, theyre going to go back and point to the single most significant event that occurred in the Democratic convention was Michelle Obama not Barack Obama, not Joe Biden, not Ted Kennedy but Michelle Obamas speech. But, at the Delaware breakfast, Biden said the states governor, who dropped out of school at age 16 and once worked as a receptionist in the governors office, had the most incredible story in American politics, and told the states delegates that being tapped as Obamas running mate pales in comparison to the honor that Ive had representing you. He also cracked that the only reason I accepted the nomination, one reason: so the Delaware delegation could be moved up front in the convention hall (which it was). And he kicked off his remarks at the roundtable by saying Ladies and gentlemen mostly ladies, thank God for small favors."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12850.html

8/30/2008 11:42:10 PM

^If you want to talk about saying inappropriate things, how about these for McCain's VP pick.

Besides already saying she hasn't really thought about & doesn't know anything about Iraq, she also said:

Palin: "As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?"

8/31/2008 1:18:00 PM

^^ Are you kidding me? McCain has the biggest problem with hyperbole IN THE HISTORY OF THE ENTIRE WORLD (get it?).

"I received the highest award from literally every veteran’s organization in America."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBz41Wl2BwI

Guantanomo Bay "may be one of the nicest places in the world to live in."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQZP7hrCS4I

"I've supported every investigation and ways of finding out what caused the tragedy" of Katrina.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ng9q4L3_vU

"I believed Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction as did every intelligence agency in the world and every assessment. "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esy8O1_C5UU

8/31/2008 1:40:56 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7591049.stm

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"The BBC's Adam Brookes, in Minnesota for the convention, says the Republicans are keen to avoid the kind of political damage incurred by the Bush administration's clumsy response to Hurricane Katrina three years ago. Republicans clearly cannot afford to be seen hosting glamorous political events, while the people New Orleans are once again fleeing their city, he says. "I hope and pray we will be able to resume some of our normal operations as quickly as possible," McCain told reporters via a video link from St Louis. "I have every expectation that we will not see the mistakes of Katrina repeated," he added. Mr McCain's convention manager Rick Davis said the convention would open for just over two hours on Monday, solely to go through procedures necessary under law to begin the process of nominating a president and vice-president. The formal business of the convention includes, on Wednesday, the formal nomination of the Arizona senator for president and Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. Mr McCain's acceptance speech, set for prime time on Thursday evening, is deemed to be among the most important events of the campaign for his chances of winning the White House in November. Meanwhile, Democratic nominee Barack Obama said he would open up his vast donor list to channel money or volunteers to help recovery efforts, in response to Gustav. "We can activate an e-mail list of a couple [of] million people who want to give back," Mr Obama told reporters after attending church in Lima, Ohio."

8/31/2008 8:23:03 PM

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"Republicans clearly cannot afford to be seen hosting glamorous political events, while the people New Orleans are once again fleeing their city, he says."

Yes God forbid anyone have a good time while the hint-impaired citizens of New Orleans must , YET AGAIN, flee from their hurricane-trap city.

9/1/2008 12:45:21 AM

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"We can activate an e-mail list of a couple [of] million people who want to give back," Mr Obama told reporters after attending church in Lima, Ohio."

I just received said e-mail about using his donor list to help the redcross.

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"Today, the thoughts and prayers of all Americans are with those in the path of Hurricane Gustav -- and many of you are asking what you can do to help. We do not yet know what the impact of Hurricane Gustav will be, and we hope with all our hearts that the damage will not be as great as it was three years ago. But we know there will be damage, and there is something you can do right now. Your financial support will strengthen organizations like the American Red Cross that are evacuating Gulf Coast residents and planning to help communities get back on their feet. Make a donation to support the American Red Cross today. At times like this, it is our compassion and resilience that define who we are as a nation. Please give whatever you can afford, even $10, to make sure the American Red Cross has the resources to help those in the path of this storm: https://donate.barackobama.com/redcross Thank you for your generosity, and I hope you will join Michelle and me in praying for the safety of those in the path of the storm and the first responders who are doing all they can to ensure the safety of their communities. Barack "

I've heard McCain & Palin may accept their nominations and/or make speeches from a disaster site while handing out bottled water. I think Bush said he'd stay away for a time so as not to tie law enforcement services. Although McCain may be backing off from that stance because Hurricane Hannah may hit Florida around Thursday & he'd look bad if he personally responded to one and not the other.

9/1/2008 3:20:07 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/story//realclearpolitics/20080829/cm_rcp/barack_obama_offers_a_beautifu

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"In essence, Obama is declaring simultaneous loyalty to individualism and to collectivism, to independence and to dependence, to free markets and to state control. If you wonder which half of this self-contradictory agenda will win out, Obama doesn't leave you in suspense. He criticizes McCain because "For over two decades, he's subscribed to that old, discredited Republican philosophy--give more and more to those with the most and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else." The references to "two decades" and to "trickle-down economics"--a derogatory term for Ronald Reagan's pro-free-market policies--make his meaning clear. It is the free market that he wants us to regard as "discredited." What he wants us to forget is what was actually discredited two decades ago by the collapse of the Soviet Union. What was discredited was socialism, not capitalism. "

9/4/2008 1:54:06 PM

^I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I also don't see any point in that article besides another attempt to associate "Obama" with "communism."

9/4/2008 1:55:31 PM

Just somebody's opinion of Obama's speech, pointing out the problems and contradictions he saw

everybody else was doing the same to Palin's speech

9/4/2008 1:57:35 PM

Robert Tracinski is nothing more than an Ayn Rand Ojectivist fool.

9/4/2008 1:58:16 PM

who?

9/4/2008 2:00:19 PM

9/4/2008 2:43:46 PM

37,244,000 turned in for Palin's speech, according to Drudge.

So much for me thinking TT's 28 million viewers was too aggressive.

9/4/2008 3:21:32 PM

TT's?

9/4/2008 3:29:28 PM

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"you're not going to get 38 million people watching Bones McCain and his pretty new sidekick at the republican convention. its not even going to be close."

Whoops.

9/4/2008 3:29:55 PM

the real question is WHY were people tuned in.

its obviously for very different reasons.

9/4/2008 3:32:50 PM

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"its not even going to be close."

9/4/2008 3:34:19 PM

there were a good number of people in my office today who watched it and have no intention of voting for mccain/palin

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 3:36 PM. Reason : ^^]

9/4/2008 3:34:55 PM

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"its not even going to be close."

BUUUUURRN



[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 3:35 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2008 3:34:58 PM

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"there were a good number of people in my office today who watched it and have no intention of voting for mccain/palin"

100% what I did.

The key to beating your opponent is to first know you opponent.

/Mr. Miyagi

9/4/2008 3:36:54 PM

The initials I saw last night were about 14 million less.

I have a feeling though, that Walnuts won't draw that large of an audience. People tuned in basically to find out who the hell the snowbilly was/is.

9/4/2008 3:37:07 PM

The real question is can the top of their ticket compete with the bottom of the ticket in having his voice heard.

9/4/2008 3:37:48 PM

I'm interested to see how many people tune in to watch mccain tonight vs obama on o'reilly.

9/4/2008 3:40:07 PM

Far more will tune in to see McCain than Obama on O'Reilly, simply because of a smaller viewership for cable and one cable channel then for network TV and the other news channels.

9/4/2008 3:44:44 PM

true.

9/4/2008 3:48:06 PM

hot damn

did you see the DNC?

over 100,000 people with nothing better to do on a weeknight. no wonder democrats can't hold a job or make money.

I'd want to tax the "rich" too!

9/4/2008 4:02:49 PM

do you even attempt to be logical anymore?

9/4/2008 4:05:24 PM

^^"over 100,000 people with nothing better to do on a weeknight."

and on a sat night after midnight you were on that troll account posting about how others had nothing better to do:

"nobodies proved she was ever pregnant. unless you seriously believe the rant of a communist on dailykos with nothing better to do than look at her daughters stomach in pictures and make random acusations"

which somehow makes people watching a news event on a weeknight seem less pathetic

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 4:16 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2008 4:11:00 PM

^ come on man, don't be so stupid as to be baited out by this brain-addled troll.

9/4/2008 4:51:01 PM

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": "you're not going to get 38 million people watching Bones McCain and his pretty new sidekick at the republican convention. its not even going to be close.""

see, i tole you. it was off by 750,000.

thats a lot of motherfuckers, dontcha know. that's more than 3X the entire city of Raleigh.



anyhow, i'll bet tonight will be a lot less. no one watch to listen to ol' Walnuts.

9/4/2008 4:54:44 PM

you were off by more than the population of Alaska and 100x the population of Wasila.

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 4:58 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2008 4:57:46 PM

aha good one, sir. would that i had thought it myself.

9/4/2008 5:22:30 PM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/04/after-palin-speech-obama-has-record-10-million-day/

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"After Palin speech, Obama has record $10 million day (CNN) – Barack Obama's campaign for president has raised $10 million since Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin spoke Wednesday night, the campaign announced, calling it a "one-day record." Palin, the governor of Alaska, launched harsh attacks on Obama, accusing him of being two-faced and a political lightweight with no significant legislative accomplishments. "Coverage of the Palin attacks on the news this evening just pushed us over $10 million," Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in an e-mail to reporters Wednesday night. The Republican Party announced earlier in the day it had raised $1 million in the wake of Palin's speech."

Looks like the DNC rallied the party, but it was the RNC that brought the dinero.

9/4/2008 10:47:37 PM

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"you were off by more than the population of Alaska and 100x the population of Wasila."

i think you mean he was off by 300x the size of the campaign that obama "executively" ran

9/4/2008 11:19:28 PM

57 states. lol

9/4/2008 11:29:35 PM

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"Nearly 39 million people watched Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s acceptance speech on the closing night of the GOP convention Thursday in St. Paul, Minn. That broke the week-old convention record of upwards of 38 million viewers set by Sen. Barack Obama only the week before."

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/09/mccain_speech_breaks_obamas_we.php



daaaaaammnn.

you know the democrats are sore about that.

i mean, [more] people WATCHED it [than Obama's]

the impact of that record-shattering number is immeasurable and invaluable.

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"anyhow, i'll bet tonight will be a lot less. no one watch to listen to ol' Walnuts."

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"I have a feeling though, that Walnuts won't draw that large of an audience. People tuned in basically to find out who the hell the snowbilly was/is."

9/5/2008 11:34:18 PM

I saw on CNN Obama raked in 10 mil in 1 day of the convention (not sure how much they got over all), but alot of people watching were getting fired up on the left and deciding to donate. I think who was watching and how they responded matters a lot to that number. (& over that same time period McCain's side only raised 1 mil)

9/6/2008 6:57:20 AM

Once again, joe is on the wrong side of a bet.

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"anyhow, i'll bet tonight will be a lot less. no one watch to listen to ol' Walnuts. "

supplanter

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"but alot of people watching were getting fired up on the left and deciding to donate."

Sure, they are hoping to get a great return on their investment.

9/6/2008 8:38:16 AM

Here is an interesting breakdown:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/09/04/us/politics/20080905_WORDS_GRAPHIC.html


The main priority of our new leader looks like it will either be change or god?

9/7/2008 9:56:23 AM

Really cool chart. And yeah, I was as surprised as anybody at the numbers for McCain's acceptance on Thursday night. I was totally wrong on that one.

9/7/2008 11:05:33 AM

^^ looks like Obama was more concerned about McCain & Bush than the issues and policies

9/7/2008 2:40:12 PM

those are single words, not topics

the republicans do the same thing but instead of referring to Obama by name, they simply say "my opponent will raise your taxes" and "all he promises is change"

and of course the republicans were gonna downplay the heck outta Bush...heck, the fact that he wasn't even there was a great stroke of luck for them

[Edited on September 7, 2008 at 3:34 PM. Reason : +]

9/7/2008 3:16:06 PM

^^^^

Rudy Giuliani referenced 9-11 only once.

9/7/2008 3:57:08 PM