lol i got 1 cam per cylinder.

12/31/2010 6:27:57 PM

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"^^define "time trial"?"

So it's a race against time on track per lap. Your fastest lap is taken, you'll need some sort of a comp license with most organizations, and for safety you'd also need a bar, harnesses/seat and an SA 2005 helmet. Also nitrous is not legal in any race series. I suppose you wouldn't need to do a major brake upgrade, since technically you all you need is one decent lap and with some cooling +a race pad and upgraded fluid, it'd be fine for a lap or two maybe.

Assuming that;
You have some natural ability, and get some instruction (assuming limited road course experience),
That your suspension is a bit stiffer than stock, and not tuned specifically for drag racing (and non drag, sticky tires),
That your car will do sub 11 seconds w/out nitrous

You would have no trouble beating practically every car I've owned. My comment was more tongue in cheek, but hey more the merrier so c'mon out. Driving on track is fun yay.

1/1/2011 1:43:00 AM

do the time trial at CMP with turnone so I can get in the mix on 2 wheels
given how technical it is, I think I'd stand a fair shot of cuttin the best lap

[Edited on January 1, 2011 at 10:04 AM. Reason : but the track is SUPER rough on soft compounds. bring your med/hard or hard/hard]

1/1/2011 10:03:36 AM

CMP?

1/1/2011 12:08:48 PM

I've got no cam at all.

1/1/2011 3:28:54 PM

Nor do you have cylinders

1/1/2011 3:47:40 PM

Anybody looking for a set of track wheels/tires? I have the following for sale (everything has about 100 miles on it).

4x Enkei Imola wheels in 17x7.5 (5x100 +50)
4x Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec in 225/45/17

they are mounted and balanced. would like 1000 for it. price goes up to seperate since i have to get them unmounted.




[Edited on January 1, 2011 at 4:35 PM. Reason : pic]

1/1/2011 4:30:08 PM

45lbs per corner before balancing.

1/1/2011 5:22:19 PM

So today...progress was made.

I ended up hounding Subaru of America via Kevin a while longer. They're going to pay for half of the cost of having a new(read: remaned) long block in the car. This ended up being cheaper than any other option out there. Also, I am retaining the power train warranty on the car.

Should be back in my driveway middle of next week. Up for sale very shortly after!

If anyone wants a sexy 2008 STI with a new long block in it let me know! Spread the word to friends as well.

1/4/2011 7:42:35 PM

sorry you lost confidence in it i'd love to have your long block (if it has the nitrided crank that is)

or if you ever part it out i want your tranny and diff.

1/4/2011 7:46:37 PM

Good thing you keep the 50% off warranty!!!

You see what i did there?


\/ a sporty car that might blow up is not any fun to own

[Edited on January 4, 2011 at 7:58 PM. Reason : .]

1/4/2011 7:51:30 PM

Sadly I am scared to track it. This is definitely a decision driven purely by that fact. I refuse to own a car that I will not put on track.

I know some of you will say I'm being unreasonable, and the block can handle it...but if you were me would you really be eager to but the car under great amounts of stress for 20+ minutes at a time?

Maybe I'll get it back and my tune will change, but right now I can't imagine having to go through this shit again.

1/4/2011 7:53:57 PM

Read this months grassroots motorsports on a turbo time built car. Check out element tuning doing 1.5 seasons of time trials at 553 hp on the stock bottom end +40k miles only to be totaled when the spoiler ripped off of the trunk and spun the car. It can be done you had bad luck with a bad model year. I understand I sold my jeep after it spun a rid bearing (2 days after I switched to synthetic oil). If you personify cars like I do it just feels like betrayal and I knew it would not go away.

1/4/2011 8:39:26 PM

sell it and get a CTS-V or something

1/4/2011 8:45:55 PM

Test drove a CTS-V and like it. That being said, I don't know if I could own it. No handbrake really bothered me out of principal.

1/4/2011 8:55:19 PM

After reading most of this thread I am actually considering keeping it...sort of.

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/2-5-liter-litre-factory-motor/146699-official-sti-engine-venting-o-separators-catch-cans-thread.html

I mean there are people that exist that track their '08 STI just fine, aren't there?!

1/6/2011 11:58:22 AM

There are tons of people who track 18 psi + stock turbo cars weekly.

1/6/2011 12:29:17 PM

[Edited on January 6, 2011 at 12:50 PM. Reason : nm]

1/6/2011 12:42:14 PM

I should say frequently I don't really know how often. I follow a couple of you tube channels of peoples track vids and they update a lot more than expected.

[Edited on January 6, 2011 at 1:06 PM. Reason : .]

1/6/2011 1:05:36 PM

If you're that worried about it, sell it and get something you'll be happy with.

It would just suck big time if something screwed up again. It's all in your head, but at the same time you've got a pretty penny invested. You can go track day to track day thinking if this car will blow up.

Positive thoughts good sir.

1/6/2011 10:25:51 PM

Plenty of people track them, one of my best customers regularly tracks his 08

No engine problems whatsoever
dude burns up some brakes though.
One of the main important things on these cars with track evens is oil control, both as in air oil separation as well as keeping the oil pickup covered in high G situations. if you plan to keep the car and track it now would be the time to toss on a good oil pan that better controls oil in the sump (Moroso aluminum or steel pan, or the killer B pan), and add some kind of air oil separator, the most painless is the SG or the grimspeed

1/7/2011 6:39:28 AM

It seems like more people go with Crawford's AOS than anything else. The Grimspeed seems like the same design as the Prova, and they both include the PCV system in the loop...which I thought was the problem? People seem to like the Crawford because it's a PCV delete.

I can't really find the SG. Is it the Mann/Hummel one? There website isn't very user friendly, and I couldn't see a price.

1/7/2011 7:41:07 AM

^^I would find it extremely irritating to having to replace such a fundamental component of the car such as oil pan just to be able to do HPDE. Seems like a another giant oversight on part of Subaru. I would understand if we were talking about basic econobox, but this is their top performance model.

1/7/2011 8:24:31 AM

Crawford is weird some people swing from their genitals but other people have purchased built motors from them assembled completely wrong and won't touch the shop with a 10' pole.

[Edited on January 7, 2011 at 8:34 AM. Reason : .]

1/7/2011 8:26:39 AM

After looking into the oil pan thing...this is fucking ridiculous.

1/7/2011 8:26:39 AM

I wouldn't consider it nessasary as much as I would consider it insurance if I allready had the engine out of a car why not put a high capacity baffled oil pan in it ??

[Edited on January 7, 2011 at 8:36 AM. Reason : .]

1/7/2011 8:35:24 AM

Voids warranty? Not that they honor them. All the same. Why ask the Subaru dealer to install an AM oil pan. Seems like an awful idea.

1/7/2011 9:53:41 AM

Quote :

"I would find it extremely irritating to having to replace such a fundamental component of the car such as oil pan just to be able to do HPDE. Seems like a another giant oversight on part of Subaru. I would understand if we were talking about basic econobox, but this is their top performance model."

Agreed. I've had a bad opinion of them ever since they handed out SCCA memberships with new WRXs and then promptly voided warranties after the owners AutoXed them.

1/7/2011 11:27:15 AM

It's a BIG stretch to claim that an air-oil-separator would prevent a blown ringland.

1/7/2011 12:10:18 PM

^

Agreed.

Def. sounds like they have a piston design problem. Are the pistons weak or the ring lands just narrow? Might not matter if they were forged if the ring lands are too narrow.

1/7/2011 12:44:25 PM

^ that's very much a subject of debate, exacerbated by people who modify their engines in a stupid way. The earlier STi pistons seem less prone to failure, relatively speaking. But when a stock EJ207 shortblock goes out it seems to be the #2 or #4 ringland usually.

1/7/2011 1:16:06 PM

at least it isn't a rod poking out the side

1/7/2011 1:18:16 PM

Well IMHO the ej25 has pros and cons to it, its low center of gravity and reduced weight infront of the front wheels is an awesome thing but to make it work compromises were made. The rod ratios suck because the deck height is to low and the rod ratios were made the best they could be by having a shorter piston which reduced space for ringlands. It's a bunch of compromises but it works well 99% of the time.

1/7/2011 3:51:00 PM

Fuck compromises. You don't make compromises when building a high performance car.

Also, Subaru isn't done fucking me yet.

Today I received information from them that the re-manufactured engine blocks are reserved for warranty repairs only. My repair does not qualify as a warranty of course. They're now 99% sure that I have no choice but to rebuild the engine. The cost of rebuilding is going to be very much higher. Probably 50% higher.

Seriously...Subaru is fucking full of shit.

1/7/2011 9:27:42 PM

^What a crock of shit! I still think you should lawyer up. Sell that garbage after it is all done and get back to germans. If anything, at least they will honor the warranty!

1/8/2011 2:23:25 AM

I will buy said garbage. Haha.

Cheap.

1/8/2011 10:11:29 AM

Evo/STi are the kind of cars you buy in clean stock condition just after they come off warranty.

1/8/2011 10:21:35 AM

I was checking out a 2011 STi that parked next to me today. Looks like the exhaust is a single pipe to the rear axle, splits into two mufflers, each one has twin tips, just like a Pontiac Grand Am... LAME. I think that may just have taken lots of <3 out of Subaru I had.

1/19/2011 8:58:46 PM

Its a single turbo man.. wtf did you want true duals?
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[Edited on January 19, 2011 at 9:06 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2011 8:59:42 PM

Quote :

"wtf did you want true duals?"

...and why not?

1/19/2011 9:05:29 PM

Lol configurations for legit dual exhaust on a single turbo car.

#1, only 2 pistons feed the turbo the other 2 go out on their own.
#2, 1 pipe for exhaust, 1 for waste gate.
#3, twin scroll with split turbine exit too ? (which splitting the exit would be dumb and cause excess turbulence)
#4, never bee done but 2 turbines spinning 1 compressor.

1/19/2011 9:08:15 PM

What's wrong w/a single pipe from the turbo to the tail, single muffler w/a single tip? It'd be lighter too, you know like on the Evo 8/9.

Failing that how'bout single pipe to the rear to a single muffler that has two tips... 4 tips and two final mufflers (w/tiny piping keep in mind) each with two tips seems a bit retarded.

1/19/2011 9:47:51 PM

I agree actually my leggy is piped similarly I think a 3" pipe on one side and a 3" muffler on the other with an electronic valve :-)

1/19/2011 10:01:38 PM

Yeah I think one 2.5" exhaust back to one muffler tip is a fine design for a turbocharged car.

That is what I did at least.

1/20/2011 11:19:59 AM

SMSJ

1/20/2011 11:38:30 AM

any word on how your car turned out?

1/20/2011 11:50:06 AM

Engine being rebuilt by Subaru. They're "helping" me financially with the repair a bit.

1/20/2011 12:38:17 PM

Quote :

" Looks like the exhaust is a single pipe to the rear axle, splits into two mufflers, each one has twin tips, just like a Pontiac Grand Am... LAME. I think that may just have taken lots of <3 out of Subaru I had. "

My Rx-7 is like that. It's just for the look and maybe for some noise control. Yeah it's heavier and takes up space, but it's nothing to get worked up about. I have kept the Y-pipe style duals for non performance reasons. There really is no reasonable way to run true duals on a single turbo car, nor would really want to anyway.

I think it looks kinda cool on the 2011.

1/20/2011 12:43:41 PM

on the right is the factory exhaust for a 3000GT VR4 twin turbo.



i'll let you draw your own conclusions.

1/20/2011 12:58:36 PM

yeah but the 1st gen VR-4 had a butterfly valve to adjust the exhaust note (Active Exhaust button).

1/20/2011 1:11:26 PM